So cute. They're holding hands.

Posted by: Borg at December 10, 2006 6:17 PM

Hmmm, so..where's the newsflash in this?
No surprise here at all.
Only thing needed is plain talk translation:

All infidels will be slaughtered,
We will destroy Israel
We will re-create our islamic empire
We will then go to the next victims who wronged us millenia ago, europe, asia, africa, and especially the USA.

"Russians! Surrender! You'll die, just the same!"
(nazi troops, stalingrad, 1942)
Or is it "Surrender, Dorothy!"

Although only their lame attempts to conceal their genocidal plans are utterly hiarious, they mean to do just what they say.

Lock N Load

Posted by: jcom972 at December 10, 2006 6:21 PM

Borg beat me too it.
Nice to see Muslims have a feminine side too.

Posted by: raz at December 10, 2006 6:22 PM

'We will continue the jihad until Jerusalem is liberated."

Ok they liberate Isreal into what?
Democracy?
Freedom of speach?
Freedom to pray for Jews and Christians?
Freedom for their terrorists in Isreali prisons?
Freedom for freedom fighters?

Or freedom to conquer and destroy any Historical Biblical evidence, shut people out from Temple Mount, arrest and behead non believers and say Biblical prophecy was false say 'see Islam is victorious'. But remember, those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who are against it will be cursed.
Some one said the British empire fell when they backed out of Isreal and the disaster of Katrina was timely when the Jewish homes were destroyed in Gaza and America did nothing about it. It's a theory but who knows.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at December 10, 2006 6:27 PM

yeah holding hands like a chimp with his handler. by God if they held a women's hand, my they would be taken to the woodshed. l dont know the Baker,Carter clans can think peace can be made with these monsters. stop the money flowing from the West now!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at December 10, 2006 6:27 PM

More news here:

Holocaust denier Toben at Iran forum

Al-Jarallah: End the illusion

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at December 10, 2006 6:34 PM

If it wasn't so awful, it would be hilarious!

Have never come across such a "race" of liars and revisionist historians.Especially liked the "Jesus was the first suicide bomber" line - doesn't that say it all?

Their brains just don't work!
Maybe they will breed themselves into intellectual oblivion? I WISH! You know,,,,like those jokes the go around re Darwinian Awards?
The lot of them would qualify.

Check out 'blog below:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/al_jazeera_speaks_jews_are_the_cause_of_all_muslim_miseries/#commentsmore

Posted by: Gramfan at December 10, 2006 6:36 PM

ummahnewslinks

Thanks for those, and all the other great links you post.

I saw some of this yesterday. Why are they having this stupid conference if they are sure the Holocaust never happened anyway?

I guess it gives them more ammunition to kill Jews! And no guilt of course.

Posted by: Gramfan at December 10, 2006 6:39 PM

Re: Palestinian PM: "We will continue the jihad until Jerusalem is liberated"

Who, except "mosaic" hallucinators (Karen Armstrong, e.g.) does not get the message here? The issue here is not the Holocaust or anything else but the mandates of Islam and the fact that a Jewish state in Dar-al-Islam is an insult to these wackos. The truth is that if every Jew in Israel consisted only of those who fled Mideast countries, the wackos would still want to destroy Israel. Gaza in exchange for "peace" ended up with rockets raining from there. Leaving the West Bank would only require Israel to return in force or the dreams of these wackos to come true.

The whole picture here is so bizarre. You have a crazy 5' 3" guy who looks like some homeless person calling for the annihilation of Israel by atomic weapons and people want to negotiate with this psychotic? "Peace" to the Psychotic-In-Iran means the annihilation of Israel. It's all like some kind of weird replay of the Munich Conference in 1938. We really have learned nothing and forgotten everything. The Psychotic-In-Iran, with that weird smile, is an extremely dangerous person.

Posted by: Frank at December 10, 2006 6:45 PM

Why won't anyone say it? President George W. Bush wants to give these murderers a state of their own in the "West Bank," in Gaza and in Jerusalem. Why won't Spencer's readers say, Bush and James Baker are with the jihadists? Mr. Bush calls the Saudi Wahabbi terrorists our good friends and he calls arch-terrorist Mahmoud Abbas a man of peace.

Posted by: monk at December 10, 2006 6:57 PM

Palestinian PM: "We will continue the jihad until Jerusalem is liberated"
--------

I think what he's trying to say is that they're trying to imprison Jerusalem with Sharia laws.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at December 10, 2006 6:58 PM

Yet Condi and Bush et al continue on with their "Road Map to Peace" plan...you know it really becomes a complete mental illness when your enemies keep telling you loud and clear what they are bound and determined to do, and thier actions bare out their promises yet you refuse to believe them.
But it will all come down to a battle over Jerusalem

"It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured .And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.

In that day," declares the LORD, "I will strike every horse with bewilderment and his rider with madness. But I will watch over the house of Judah, while I strike every horse of the peoples with blindness."
Zech 12:3

Posted by: CaptainGrevious at December 10, 2006 7:08 PM

Damn these guys PISS me off!

Palestinians are Savage Murderers. Iran is a Dictatorship ruled by a Bunch of Perverted Sadistic Clerics and Pychotics like Ahmadinejad.

Lets get it on already!

Enough talk. i sincerly hope they are stupid enough to make a Big enough mistake that will seal their Doom!. We are too PC to do anything effective, till we are slapped in the Face like 911 . Millions are going to die either way.I think that's Painfully obvious! if we do nothing Millions will die . If do something Millions will die . Either way this is going to cost millions of lives.I'd rather get it over with. let's Expel all Muslims ( who will not take a Blood oath to Democracy and to their countries, and treat offenders as Traitors and punish them Decisively )
from our Lands , and let's get off the Oil and leave their Lands and close the West off from the East. Screw Multiculturalism, Screw Globalization , let's preserve what we know is the Best for of Gov't the world has ever seen, and the best Civil Liberties the world has ever seen . Let's stop electing people who will Cowtow to these Mental cases. Let's just get it over with.

Sorry

I'm frustrated and sickened by all the Turnspeak and Hypocricy from the Arab/Muslim world. I would not tolerate even a Fraction of this sort of Duplicity or hypocricy from anyone . i don't know why Internatinal Diplomacy means that we have to stand by and watch people Spit on everything GOOD in the World.

I honestly could not care if Iran, Afganistan, Iraq, and almost Every other Muslim Nation on the Earth was flushed down the Toilet.

If that makes me a Hate Monger , so be it. I am a Realist. burying our heads in the sand only makes it easier to cut it off.

They ARE coming!

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 10, 2006 7:27 PM

We will have to fight them until all oppression ends and NO religion is for allah. anti Qur'an 8:39

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at December 10, 2006 7:30 PM

Borg says:
"So cute. They're holding hands."

Based on the posting in the Taliban School threats and killing posting. It is ok if they hold hands and go into their private quarters togather (for who knows what), since they both have facial hair, the Taliban would approve based on clerical decree.

Maybe Iran would give up their nuclear ambitions, if we send them a supply of loafers and showtune CD's.

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx at December 10, 2006 7:32 PM

Astounding, that's an understatement more like un frigging real.
I still think the answer is in this song.
http://cyberray-rays.blogspot.com/2006/11/islam-not-for-me.html#links

Posted by: Cyberray at December 10, 2006 7:38 PM

Concerned Canadian-

I think your thoughts are more common than you think. A good friend (he actually trained me in my business in 1990) and I had to do some work together recently. He was talking about the Psychotic-In-iran and the general situation with the belief-system wackos. He said, "These assholes are eventually going to do something so terrible that it will require their total destruction".

As Thomas Edison once said, "thoughts are in the air". A lot of folks (who are sane) see what's coming when they look at the Psychotic-In-Iran.

Posted by: Frank at December 10, 2006 7:50 PM

"The willful refusal to examine what a truce is in Islamic theology, and to proceed accordingly, is continually astounding."

Willful, and with reason. The truth is almost always hidden, along with the reasons for the actions the leaders engage in. They are NOT stupid, nor are they just rolling the dice, the real plan is just unknown to the "masses". They have a different goal, and are working to bring it forward.

"Yet Condi and Bush et al continue on with their "Road Map to Peace" plan..." .

Both are members of CFR.

"just as James Baker, Jimmy Carter."..

Both are also probable members as well.

The point is that nobody in their positions can be that far gone and lost, the goal they work for is just known to them, not to those on the outside.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at December 10, 2006 8:00 PM

Who, except "mosaic" hallucinators (Karen Armstrong, e.g.) does not get the message here?

The problem Frank, is that the message is not even on the radar screens of hundreds of millions of otherwise well-informed, fair-minded citizens in the US and Europe.

Leading Western media sources like Reuters and the BBC are engaged in a deliberate, systematic, and pernicious effort to hide, obscure and distort the nature of the enemy and their objectives.

Imagine if leading up to America's entry into WWII, our citizens had been forced to sit in cinemas watching newsreel after newsreel of Nazi or Japanese Imperialist propaganda (translated into English). What would have been the effect? Would the US have even entered the war following Pearl Harbor? Would we have come to the assistance of Great Britain?

Or perhaps Americans would have listened to appeasers and "realists" like Charles Lindbergh (that era's equivalent of James Baker) who admonished us not to go to war against Germany, that it would only bring down a "great civilization" and was probably unwinnable.

Unfortunately, our elected politicians -- who should or do know better -- are not telling the people the truth. Until this changes or we overcome the pernicious propaganda of the mainstream media, the message that the enemy is Islam will remain bounced around the echo chambers of sites like JW and LGF.

Posted by: Charles Martel at December 10, 2006 8:12 PM

I too look forward to Jerusalem being liberated-liberated from the palestinian cancer that has absolutely no claim on the city whatsoever. These supreme losers have done nothing to show why they merit a state-just look at that mess in Gaza. That is what Israel will be like if these parasites seize control of it. 60 years of whining and a delusion from Mo and these idiots think they deserve a nation? Hell no! I look forward to the day that Israel finally deals with this rabble once and for all. And I hope at the same time the US deals the death blow to that criminal regime of the ape in chief in Tehran-that scourge has gone unpunished for far too long.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 10, 2006 8:28 PM

It's all very well and good for us to rant against insanity here, but all we're really doing is preaching to the choir and saying "Amen".

We need to light a fire under our governments and inform our fellow citizens.

Plan of action: Print off one article from Jihad Watch, make a dozen copies and casually leave them in a local laundromat. Send another dozen copies to local clergy.

Send snail mail letters to your elected representatives calmly but firmly voicing your concerns. Follow these up with emails.

Publish the snail mail letters you sent to your representatives in the "letters to the editor" of your local newspaper.

Under no circumstances use invective, profanity or give vent to the rage all right thinking people should feel. Follow Robert's example and calmly present the facts.

We can win this war. We will win this war. It's going to take all of us and the sooner all of us know what's really going on the better. We cannot rely on the media. We can't even rely on the internet.

We need to spread the word on a grass-roots level. Have you talked to your neighbors lately? They might just be as concerned as you are.

Posted by: USBeast at December 10, 2006 8:31 PM

Both are members of CFR.

"just as James Baker, Jimmy Carter."..

Ah reminds me of one of the reasons I left the Republican Party and stopped voting and donating to politics.

When Reagan ran for Prez, I believed his lies, really thought he was "conservative" (didn't know that he was the first socialist governor of California).. and besides donating all of my spare change I prayed night and day for his victory, hoping that he would cleanse government of the CFR, Trilateral Commission types..

Only to be betrayed.. not only did he appoint, into cabinet and subcabinet positions CFR and TC members, but he held over the Carter Sec'ty of Transportation : Carlucci, whom just happens to be the Chairman of the Carlyle Group.

Now who is the Carlyle Group? It is a cabal of globalists, transnational in nature, and included the Saudis and Bin Ladens, and included (s) James Baker III of Baker Botts, the Bush family, Cheney, and one of Iraq's largest creditors is the government of Saudi Arabia. The Carlyle Group does extensive business with the Saudi royal family, ...

Evelyn Leopold, "UN Council Unanimously Adopts Iraq Resolution," Reuters, June 8, 2004

The main proposal would transfer ownership of $57bn in unpaid Iraqi debts. The debts would be assigned to a foundation created and controlled by a consortium in which the key players are the Carlyle Group, the Albright Group (headed by another former secretary of state, Madeleine Albright) and several other well-connected firms.

Under the deal, Kuwait would also give the consortium $2bn to invest in a private equity fund devised by the consortium, with half of that going to Carlyle.

The consortium would then use its personal connections to persuade world leaders that Iraq must "maximize" its reparation payments to Kuwait. The more the consortium gets Iraq to pay over a period, the more Kuwait collects, with the consortium taking a 5% commission or more.

The goal of maximizing Iraq's debt payments directly contradicts the stated US foreign policy aim of drastically reducing Iraq's debt burden.--Naomi Klein, "Bush special envoy embroiled in controversy over Iraq debt: Consortium plans to cash in as Baker asks countries to end £200bn burden," October 13, 2004]

[The Economy Plan goes boldly where no invasion plan has gone before: the complete rewrite, it says, of a conquered state's "policies, laws and regulations." Here's what you'll find in the Plan: A highly detailed program, begun years before the tanks rolled, for imposing a new regime of low taxes on big business, and quick sales of Iraq's banks and bridges - in fact, "ALL state enterprises" - to foreign operators. There's more in the Plan, part of which became public when the State Department hired consulting firm to track the progress of the Iraq makeover. Example: This is likely history's first military assault plan appended to a program for toughening the target nation's copyright laws.

And when it comes to oil, the Plan leaves nothing to chance - or to the Iraqis. Beginning on page 73, the secret drafters emphasized that Iraq would have to "privatize" (i.e., sell off) its "oil and supporting industries." The Plan makes it clear that - even if we didn't go in for the oil - we certainly won't leave without it. . . .

If you read all of that, and notice the part about Privatization of Iraqi Oil, James Baker, etc then fast forward to tIraq Study Group, with Baker you can be sure that what is good for Iraq is what is good for the Carlyle Group..and of course the Emirs of Kuwait and the Saudis.

Posted by: Nariz at December 10, 2006 8:42 PM

I was having fun with the picture of Handinyeh pocket and AhImANutJob holding hands till I remembered the pictures of Bush and Abdullah kissing and holding hands.. but that is nothing compared to this piece of (see it for yourself) Chassidic Jews and AhI'mAnutjob embracing and kissing each others arse.

Posted by: Nariz at December 10, 2006 9:43 PM

Muslims peasants live in non-adaptive systems of perpetual occupation, with dictators, monarchs, and theocrats. They lack opportunity to let out steam. They convince their communities that the US or Israel is to blame for their plight. To understand Islam, we need to observe everyday life and circumstance. In their supernatural, suspicious, non-evidence based culture, it is difficult to find a sense of sympathy, motivation, morality, and evolution. Fundamentalists also want to take over. They thrive on authoritarian, obedient, unsafe, and threatening environments. These societies mysteriously lack resources or common objectives for positive social change, scientific knowledge, and self-education.

Posted by: SFOD at December 10, 2006 9:52 PM

Talk about a match made in hell...these two men deserve each other.

They should both be treated as pariahs.

Posted by: BB at December 10, 2006 10:05 PM

Jimmah C: Hey, what's a "hudna"?

Jimmy B: Be darned if I know what "hudna" is, Jimmah C!

BillyBubba C: I once asked Arafat what "hudna" was and he told me that it was an expression of "taqiyya." I didn't want to seem like I was stupid around Yasir, so I just said to him "I get it." Yasir just smiled and we carried on after that.

Condi R: I know what "hudna" means! Doesn't that have to do with us having successful negotiations to give the Jews more defensible borders?

Posted by: FredIsinglass at December 10, 2006 10:27 PM

I agree with USBeast. Talk to your neighbours and friends about this. Ask what they know about it and tell them what you've read on this site and in Robert's books. Buy them Robert's books for xmas. Write letters - calm, reasonable letters - to politicians and papers.

Many people say nothing 'cause of political correctness, so we need grass-roots action to give more confidence to our voices. We can put a lot of energy into preaching to the converted...imagine if all that energy was directed outward.

It sickens me to hear friends regurgitate the nonsense and PC garbage that so much of the press publishes, while ignoring all the evidence of the violence that is Islam right in front of us. We need to stop immigration from all Islamic countries and start protecting what we have built before it is too late.

6 months ago I kneow nothing about this issue and just basically thought that wearing a burka was really backwards - then I came across Oriana Fallici's books and this site. There must be lots of people like me who are a bit uneasy but not sure why. How can we reach more of those people?

Is there a lobby site or anyone who is already writing form letters that we can copy and send to politicians & media?

Posted by: Istherenolimit at December 10, 2006 10:44 PM

So cute. They're holding hands.

Posted by: Borg

Haniyeh looks like a father leading his son to school. Ahmadinejad looks like a kid with jacket and all.

All he needs is a ball cap turned side ways and all is right.

The question is were is mom???

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at December 10, 2006 11:17 PM

were = where

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at December 10, 2006 11:18 PM

They really think the West will fall to a cheap jacket wearing puppet with a big jewish nose, who believes he is a direct descendent of an imam, who runs retarded cartoon contests, who drives an old car, who wants to destroy the great persian civilization?

Posted by: Ahmadinejew at December 10, 2006 11:27 PM

"We will never recognize the Zionist government. We will continue the jihad until Jerusalem is liberated."

Listen UP, islamo-boy: Jerusalem IS liberated!!! The Israelis did it for all Mankind.

Your f*ing BORG kind needs to pack up and leave the planet.

Long live Eretz Israel!!

Don't piss us all off too much Islamo-boys or we will come liberate Mecca and Medina which your MoHAM-MAD stole from the peaceful Jews who lived there.

Be glad for what u GOT!

You are alla-damn lucky we are so magnanymous.

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 10, 2006 11:47 PM

O/T

the other day somebody posted buch of quotes on islam/muslims,buy some of the founding fathers/presidents/winstin churchil/and others.I need them for some people on another blog,would really appreciate them if anybody gots them.

Posted by: Patriot8 at December 10, 2006 11:54 PM

Patriot8; Those were great quotes. I think Mike_W compiled them. I had copied them and just posted them:

www.limes68.blogspot.com

Posted by: limes at December 11, 2006 12:08 AM

Thanx limes!!!

Posted by: Patriot8 at December 11, 2006 12:13 AM

Spread the word my friend...

Posted by: limes at December 11, 2006 12:16 AM

Lucifer son of the morning...!
I'm gonna take you out of Earth.

I'm gonna put on an iron shirt.
And drive the devil out of Earth.
Satan is an evilous man
but he can't mess with i-man.

I'm gonna put on an iron shirt
And find him his own place.
I'm gonna send him to outer space
to find another race.

-Peter Tosh.

was he talking about Mo-HAM-MAD aka SATAN?!

Honestly, if we all woke up tomorrow and there were no more islam and all of this was just a bad nighmare.. would Mankind's problems not seem so eminently soluable?

The money we waste engaging these fools both abroad and at home could be much better spent. Both at home and abroad.

GOODBYE, Mo-HAM-MAD!!!!

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 11, 2006 12:16 AM

about this story from D/Wyesterday:

Michigan Bus Officials Apologize to Muslim Woman

i live here,its about 90-95% against them letting her wear the veil,been going back and forth with some people though,somebody wrote the founding fathers would be ashamed of what we were saying about muslims/islam.I said you cant even guess what some of them had to say about them,so i really wanted them quotes,cant wait to see what they have to say about them,so thank you..been telling them all to check out J/W and D/W

Posted by: Patriot8 at December 11, 2006 12:26 AM

somebody wrote the founding fathers would be ashamed of what we were saying about muslims/islam.I said you cant even guess what some of them had to say about them,so i really wanted them quotes,cant wait to see what they have to say about them,so thank you..been telling them all to check out J/W and D/W

Posted by: Patriot8

The Founding Fathers would be ashamed at us for knucking under. What board are you on? Mind sharing so some of us can come on there like Crusaders of Truth?

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 11, 2006 12:38 AM

this is where we are at: http://forums.woodtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=810&start=120

this is from the start if you want that(its at 8 pages)http://forums.woodtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=810&start=0

i'm radgy on there

Posted by: Patriot8 at December 11, 2006 12:42 AM

"This just in: Mahmoud's head implodes as Israel drops nuke on his butt-ugly face" Just preparing my next headlines in advance- don't mind me- carry on :) http://sacredscoop.com

Posted by: CottShop at December 11, 2006 1:30 AM

" Concerned Canadian-

I think your thoughts are more common than you think. A good friend (he actually trained me in my business in 1990) and I had to do some work together recently. He was talking about the Psychotic-In-iran and the general situation with the belief-system wackos. He said, "These assholes are eventually going to do something so terrible that it will require their total destruction".

As Thomas Edison once said, "thoughts are in the air". A lot of folks (who are sane) see what's coming when they look at the Psychotic-In-Iran. "

Posted by: Frank

Thanks Frank. I know my post sounded a bit harsh, but i am so frustrated to see the Appeasements and concessions over and over again. It's soooo painfully obvious what is happenning. I can't believe how HISTORY get's disregarded when the new threats arise. I don't think we are perfect but compared to them , well , WE ARE.

Does anyone actually think that with the Track record the Palestinians and Muslims around the Globe have for Honesty, Tolerance , and Peacefully living with their neighbours that this will end any other way than with Millions dead? Personally i'd rather it be them than us, but our PC attitudes will guarantee that we WILL Pay the price for our lack of Vision .

We Must continue to support Israel no matter how Ygly it gets. They are US . they are the only Just society in the Mid East.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 11, 2006 2:04 AM

Give them something to shout about , flatten the
Temple Mount !

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at December 11, 2006 2:57 AM

Patriot8 ,

"Winston Churchill, who wrote in 1899,
“The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism”.
John Quincy Adams who wrote in 1829,
"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force".
John Wesley (1703-91) who wrote,
"Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it...have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind".
Hilaire Belloc who wrote in 1938,
"Will not perhaps the temporal power of Islam return and with it the menace of an armed Mohammedan world, which will shake off the domination of Europeans -- still nominally Christian -- and reappear as the prime enemy of our civilization? The future always comes as a surprise, but political wisdom consists in attempting at least some partial judgment of what that surprise may be. And for my part I cannot but believe that a main unexpected thing of the future is the return of Islam".
Bishop Fulton J Sheen who wrote in 1950,
"Today (1950), the hatred of the Moslem countries against the West is becoming hatred against Christianity itself. Although the statesmen have not yet taken it into account, there is still grave danger that the temporal power of Islam may return and, with it, the menace that it may shake off a West which has ceased to be Christian, and affirm itself as a great anti-Christian world Power".
Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria, while negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims, 640 AD,
"I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world".

Gregory Palamus of Thessalonica, 1354,
"For these impious people, hated by God and infamous, boast of having got the better of the Romans by their love of God…they live by the bow, the sword and debauchery, finding pleasure in taking slaves, devoting themselves to murder, pillage, spoil…and not only do they commit these crimes, but even — what an aberration — they believe that God approves of them. This is what I think of them, now that I know precisely about their way of life.".
William Eaton, US Consul to Tunis, wrote in 1799,
"Considered as a nation, they are deplorably wretched, because they have no property in the soil to inspire an ambition to cultivate it. They are abject slaves to the despotism of their government, and they are humiliated by tyranny, the worst of all tyrannies, the despotism of priestcraft. They live in more solemn fear of the frowns of a bigot who has been dead and rotten above a thousand years, than of the living despot whose frown would cost them their lives…The ignorance, superstitious tradition and civil and religious tyranny, which depress the human mind here, exclude improvement of every kind…"

Sorry, don't have the exact link with the name of the commentator.

Posted by: Crows&Cows at December 11, 2006 3:33 AM

The anarchistic statements put forwards by the regular posters are marginalised and lacking support within the populous. If you do not see the numerous Palestinian refugee camps as festering grounds for terrorists, then the only things you’re missing are a Labrador and Stevie Wonder glasses. Place the Palestinians in a state (of some fashion), and you marginalize Hamas, reduce tensions in Jordan and take away significant propaganda material from the radicals. And the Radical Islamists seem to be running rings round us from a propaganda perspective. I mean, how sad is it for some people to be suggesting that we print out articles and leave them in the Laundromat. Try a banksy style graffiti tag with a URL and spray it all over town, that will get results. In the age of uploading, flyers don’t cut it.

Posted by: protectalbion at December 11, 2006 3:40 AM

You gotta to hand it to Dinnerjacket. He is a hell of a politician, in the same way Hitler was a hell of a politician.

Posted by: Thor-Zone at December 11, 2006 4:19 AM

O/T

the other day somebody posted buch of quotes on islam/muslims,buy some of the founding fathers/presidents/winstin churchil/and others.I need them for some people on another blog,would really appreciate them if anybody gots them.

Posted by: Patriot8

Late due to time differences - it may have been me Patriot?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014366.php#comments

So glad we have people here who can help out:)
Don't know what I would do without you guys.

Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 7:46 AM

Guys
I post on an OZ 'blog as well.
I thought,,,just for a change,,have a laugh at this. It is so true, sad and funny all at once.
Please remember I didn't write it - someone else in OZ did.
Thanks for your patience.How correct is this?
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Posted by JV of North Essendon! on Mon 11 Dec 06 at 12:51pm

You see mate:
It’s us WESTERNERS who simply do not understand!
Future peace negotiating scenario:
Our (Politically Correct) Negotiator: OK Machmoud let’s sit down and let’s try and sort out all our differences, once and for all, and see if we can make your crowd happy and have some real peace!.
Now, What Exactly is your main problem here in Australia and how can we solve it ?
Machmoud : It’s plain to see is it not! Are you lot Dumb? It’s the Jews mate. You Australians just have got to get rid of them. They’re the main cause of ALL our problems.
Negotiator: OK We’ll get rid of them! Happy ?
Machmoud : Well, Not really. There is a couple of others we have a problem with as well!
Negotiator : A couple of others ?
Machmoud : Yes, The Americans and the English!
Negotiator: The Americans and the English? What have they done?
Machmoud : They were helping the Jews all a long and even worse they are all Christians on top of it all ! Everywhere in our regions where there are Christians there are problems. They work hand in hand with the Jews! But I guess your people don’t tell you these things. We have known all along that it is a conspiracy!
Negotiator: OK You made your point Machmoud. We’ll get rid of all of them as well ! Happy ?
Machmoud : Not quite ! But we are getting closer! You forgot the rest of the Christians!
Negotiator: This is going to be really hard. You do know that we are going to have to get rid of most Australians and local New Zealanders, Germans, Dutch, Ukrainians, Christian migrants etc. etc!
Machmoud : Yes but you will have peace!
Negotiator: Very well. We’ll do that as well. Anything for peace. Happy?
Machmoud : No there is still a few others we have an issue with !
Negotiator: A few others? Australia is nearly empty mate!
Machmoud : You’re right it’s starting to look better all ready! Now if you do the last little bit it will be nearly perfect!
Negotiator: Who ?
Machmoud : Well you still have some Aboriginals, Hindus, Chinese, Japanese, and hundreds of other strange people who are not muslims.
Negotiator : OK But do you know that we now only have Muslims left ?
Machmoud : Yes but we will no longer see any protests from non-muslims!
Negotiator : OK It must be worth it if we no longer have any problems or protests!
Machmoud : I did not say that. We will still have some protests!
Negotiator : Protests from Whom?
Machmoud : The other Muslims mate! See! You westerners are so dumb! You will never ever understand us! It’s no wonder that you lot have caused so much trouble to us over the centuries!
Negotiator : OK Which other Muslims?
Machmoud : Well there is the Wahabis, the Shia, the Sunny, the Kurds, the Turks, the black muslims from Africa etc.. Gee man you westerners really know absolutely nothing about us! Do you?
Negotiator : OK We’ll get rid of them as well. But there is nobody left in the place.
Machmoud : That’s not true ! See! Again you simply do Not understand. MY tribe is left mate. The only true followers of the faith! All the others read our holy book differently! If you had looked a bit closer you would have seen that a lot of the others were reading the book with 2 eyes!
Negotiator : At last Peace! Happy!
Machmoud : What Peace ? You see that guy over there?
Negotiator : Yes. But he is from your tribe isn’t he?
Machmoud : That’s got nothing to do with it He is from the village next to ours and they have more camels than we do! Any one can plainly see that they must have tricked us somehow. I Don’t think you lot will ever understand!
Besides there’s one other minor little problem still to be solved.
Negotiator : What?
Machmoud : YOU !!!
Cheers Andrew

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Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 7:51 AM

to PATRIOT :

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adams's capital letters)… Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant… While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and goodwill towards men." -John Quincy Adams

"The Muslim religion is so unreformed since it was created that nowhere in the Muslim world has there been any real advance in science, or art or literature, or technology in the last 500 years" - Lord Tebbit

"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this: "Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah" (i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." – Vernon Richards

“Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was - and it remains - incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.” – Andre Servier, 1922

“The Greeks who triumphed at Marathon and Salamis did a work without which the world would have been deprived of the social value of Plato and Aristotle, of Aeschylus, Herodotus, and Thucydides. The civilization of Europe, America, and Australia exists today at all only because of the victories of civilized man over the enemies of civilization, because the victories stretching through the centuries from the days of Miltiades and Themistocles to those of Charles Martel in the eighth century and those of John Sobieski in the seventeenth century.”

“During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today nobody can find in them any "social values" whatever, in the sense in which we use the words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan influence. There are such "social values" today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do - that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.” – Theodore Roosevelt

"Of course, there are distinguished precedents even for the bleakest and coarsest of these judgements. To Montesquieu in 1748, Islam’s ‘destructive spirit’ spoke ‘only by the sword’; to Schopenhauer in 1819, the Koran was a ‘wretched book’ in which he had ‘not been able to discover one single idea of value’; to De Tocqueville in 1843, Islam was ‘deadly’, ‘to be feared’ and a ‘form of decadence’". – David Selbourne – The Losing Battle with Islam

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at December 6, 2006 06:06 PM
Infidels continue to fund their own destuction.
It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
Get a clue you multi-culti cultural relativists.
Look at a map of the world and contemplate how so much of it has become Islamic.
For the sake of your children at least, listen to some voices from the past :

Winston Churchill, who wrote in 1899,

“The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism”.

John Quincy Adams who wrote in 1829,

"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force".

John Wesley (1703-91) who wrote,

"Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it...have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind".

Hilaire Belloc who wrote in 1938,

"Will not perhaps the temporal power of Islam return and with it the menace of an armed Mohammedan world, which will shake off the domination of Europeans -- still nominally Christian -- and reappear as the prime enemy of our civilization? The future always comes as a surprise, but political wisdom consists in attempting at least some partial judgment of what that surprise may be. And for my part I cannot but believe that a main unexpected thing of the future is the return of Islam".

Bishop Fulton J Sheen who wrote in 1950,

"Today (1950), the hatred of the Moslem countries against the West is becoming hatred against Christianity itself. Although the statesmen have not yet taken it into account, there is still grave danger that the temporal power of Islam may return and, with it, the menace that it may shake off a West which has ceased to be Christian, and affirm itself as a great anti-Christian world Power".

Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria, while negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims, 640 AD,

"I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world".

Gregory Palamus of Thessalonica, 1354,

"For these impious people, hated by God and infamous, boast of having got the better of the Romans by their love of God…they live by the bow, the sword and debauchery, finding pleasure in taking slaves, devoting themselves to murder, pillage, spoil…and not only do they commit these crimes, but even — what an aberration — they believe that God approves of them. This is what I think of them, now that I know precisely about their way of life.".

William Eaton, US Consul to Tunis, wrote in 1799,

"Considered as a nation, they are deplorably wretched, because they have no property in the soil to inspire an ambition to cultivate it. They are abject slaves to the despotism of their government, and they are humiliated by tyranny, the worst of all tyrannies, the despotism of priestcraft. They live in more solemn fear of the frowns of a bigot who has been dead and rotten above a thousand years, than of the living despot whose frown would cost them their lives…The ignorance, superstitious tradition and civil and religious tyranny, which depress the human mind here, exclude improvement of every kind…"

And how about this quote from Ayatollah Khomeini from 1942

“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” - Ayatollah Khomeini

You cannot tell from appearances how things will go. Sometimes imagination makes things out far worse than they are; yet without imagination not much can be done. Those people who are imaginative see many more dangers than perhaps exist; certainly many more than will happen; but then they must also pray to be given that extra courage to carry this far-reaching imagination. But for everyone, surely, what we have gone through in this period - I am addressing myself to the School - surely from this period of ten months this is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. We stood all alone a year ago, and to many countries it seemed that our account was closed, we were finished. All this tradition of ours, our songs, our School history, this part of the history of this country, were gone and finished and liquidated Winston Churchill 1941

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 7:55 AM

My humble apologies

Actually I don't think it was me.

Sorry if I offended anyone. I think it was Mike_W and Hugh suggested we all keep it?

Anyway, glad it resurfaced. I try to keep these things - you never know when you might need them.

(anyone,,please correct me if I am wrong. At my age it is good to know the brain is still working,lol!)

Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 7:57 AM

That there will be death on a great scale in the middle east there can be no doubt. The Iranian president promises it. That Iran will not be alone in dishing it out, there can be no doubt.

The smart ones are the ones who should by now, be preparing to sacrifice and do what is necessary.

Israel stands to lose first. They will go down fighting. Unless immediate action is forthcoming, you may live to see Palistinians dancing in the streets of Tel Aviv, carrying their banners, shaking their fists, burning effigys, all the while proclaiming PARIS is next. Rome will fall, and Berlin is Doomed.

Of course, the ever present Death to America will be heard.

The US will be fighting on multiple fronts including Michigan, Minnesota, Massachuechetts, Oregon, California and other home areas.

Israel is dusting off the nukes and conducting action drills as we speak.

The Islamic allies are rushing at breakneck speed to are the Muslims with terrible weapons. Ships from Korea, CHina, Russia have be photographed and documented as unloading suspicious cargoes in Iran. The other Islamic countries are preparing for war (just not as openly as Iran). Reminds me of how Germany began arming immediately after WWI. For twenty years no one dared to try to stop Germany--and the world paid a dear price.

Death is what Islam preaches and Death is what Islam deals out.

Whether you agree or not, death must be dealt to them first.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 11, 2006 8:10 AM

"Death is what Islam preaches and Death is what Islam deals out.

Whether you agree or not, death must be dealt to them first.

Posted by: exsgtbrown "

I agree. Most sadly:((

I have feared this for a long time, but I cannot see a way out of it other than pre-emptive action and the US and Israel are the only ones who could do it. But will they?

Posted by: Gramfan at December 11, 2006 8:52 AM

Notice, as some have, the latent homosexuality so prevalent in islam. How men engage intimately with each other, but shun women.

Notice in this photo, how this saudi prince holds Bush's hand in the same manner.

http://photos.imageevent.com/odaat/handholding2/small/handholding.jpg

Posted by: August22 at December 11, 2006 9:14 AM

Haniyeh thanked Ahmadinejad for his support and replied: "My government has no intention of recognizing the occupation government. We support the Palestinian people's right to resistance [the standard Palestinian term for terror attacks] and its right to cancel the cruel agreements that were signed in the past with the occupation regime."

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One can not get more basic than the above statement.
Unless, you are our leaders in government; then you all you see is "We support the Palestinian people's right to resistance...with the occupation regime." Followed by: Oh, poor Palestinian's; they are beat up by the evil occupation regime known as Israel.

Posted by: Monkeywho at December 11, 2006 1:51 PM

Notice in this photo, how this saudi prince holds Bush's hand in the same manner.

http://photos.imageevent.com/odaat/handholding2/small/handholding.jpg
Posted by: August22

That says it all. Better than I could ever describe how much of a Dhimmi Bush is!!!!

If Bush has the guy to HIS ranch then shouldn;t the guy follow Bush's customs? If I were Bush I'd have served up a big ol' Texas Bar-B-Que.. pork of course and put the onus on these bastards to turn down the food they're offered. I find this dhimmitude and hand-holding revolting.

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 11, 2006 4:43 PM

Hand-holding there means something very different than here in the US...

...but you're right on the dhimmi-wit mentality and naive blindness by W.

Posted by: jcom972 at December 11, 2006 6:00 PM

Haniyeh is an imaginary prime minister of an imaginary country for an imaginary people. The "Palestinians" are a mob of barbarians in the truest sense of the phrase. The Visigoths and Vikings were gardeners and artisans in comparison to these so-called "Palestinians."

They are a rabid dog that the world hopes will become cured and cuddly someday...if only damned Israel would stop existing. The only cure for a rabid dog is putting the dog DOWN. Hopefully, someday civilized human beings will realize this fact.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at December 11, 2006 8:54 PM