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"Mujahedin fighters return to Spain from Iraq: report," from AFP:
MADRID - Mujahedin fighters have returned to bases in Spain after gaining combat experience in Iraq and are now a potential threat to European security, Spanish newspaper El Pais reported on Sunday.
Potential? Nah, they must be back to reconstitute La Convivencia.
According to El Pais the fighters worked alongside cells controlled by late Al Qaeda senior leader and Jordanian extremist Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, killed in June.
‘They are the new Trojan horse of Al Qaeda and its satellites on our territory and they are already preparing themselves,’ deputy director of the European police network Europol, Mariano Simancas, told El Pais.
‘They represent a serious threat for the countries of the European Union,’ Simancas added.
El Pais quoted anti-terrorist sources as saying that an unspecified number of formerly Spanish-based Algerians and Moroccans who had gained experience in handling arms and explosives in Iraq had now returned.
‘But they are doing nothing for the moment. They are biding their time, which complicates things when it comes to making arrests,’ one unnamed expert told El Pais.
Two years ago, Simancas told a parliamentary investigation into the March 11, 2004 Madrid bombings that Islamic terrorism was an ongoing major security threat and that it was not possible to know ‘100 percent’ where radical groups might strike.
In midweek Spain arrested 11 suspected Islamist militants in Spain’s north African enclave of Ceuta on suspicion they were planning attacks ‘of a terrorist nature.’
Posted by Marisol at December 18, 2006 7:56 AM
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watch the mosques , observe who comes and goes. photograph document, employ informants, utilized moles, spys,and wiretaps.
Remain vigilant, Ban Muslim immigration, deport all Muslim violators of your laws.
Expect the worst.
Islam is a thrill kill machine.
Reconsider the death penalty.
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at December 18, 2006 8:12 AM
This belief-system is a prefect home for the criminal mind and the mentally ill. The criminal mind refuses to take responsibility for actions, shifts blame to victims and demands that reality and others conform to a belief-system that rationalizes predatory behavior. The belief-system uses "religious" clerical costume and ritual (Nazi style) to reinforce the delusions of supremacism and to create an illusion of a community (the volk, the Islamic Umma).
This is mental illness and the authorities have to deal with it as such and name it. As long as Unbelievers continue to be distracted by the "religion" camouflage of the belief-system, the Unbelievers will be paralyzed in responding to this belief-system's demented deception and violence. Treating beliefs as if they are scientific fact is mental illness. We are looking at collective psychosis which is usually led by individual psychotics in costumes.
Posted by: Frank at December 18, 2006 8:29 AM
B-B-B-but we shamefully retreated from the Iraqi Coalition, so why won't you leave us alone, Islam?
Those who refuse to learn from history, yada yada yada...
Posted by: Know Your Enemy at December 18, 2006 8:31 AM
B-B-B-but we shamefully retreated from the Iraqi Coalition, so why won't you leave us alone, Islam?
Posted by: Know Your Enemy
because in retreating from iraq you proved to the mujahadeen you are the cowards the mujahadeen thought you to be and now we know you are easy pickins!
thankyou very much!
at December 18, 2006 8:39 AM
In the future, I would strongly recommend that any belief-system cleric or any member of the belief-system that incites or advocates violence be placed in a mental hospital. The authorities are still fooled by the "religion" camouflage and costumes of these maniacs and that has to end. The Psychotic-In-Iran types, the London cleric type (the one with one eye (Captain Hook) who refers to Unbelievers as cattle, all such people should be sent to mental hospitals. This should have been done with Hitler and the Nazis in the 1920's.
Posted by: Frank at December 18, 2006 8:45 AM
but why waste perfectly good hard earned tax dollars on keeping these useless bastards alive where we tax payers will by obligated to provide the best halal foods and healthcare and legal services and waiters to carry and hand them their satanic qu'ran in clean white gloved hands so they can read and learn how their satanic diety all;ah wishs them to slaughter the kafiroon!
the pakistanis have already developed a perfect cure for such ilness as these bastards suffer from, its called a "beheading" why not use it? its islamically halal!
at December 18, 2006 9:12 AM
This is Islamania's thank you note to Spain for pulling its troops out of Iraq. Typical example of their gratitude.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 18, 2006 9:20 AM
B-B-B-but we shamefully retreated from the Iraqi Coalition, so why won't you leave us alone, Islam?
Those who refuse to learn from history, yada yada yada...
Posted by: Know Your Enemy at December 18, 2006 08:31 AM
NNNOOOO, they fearfully retreated and Islam feeds on fear. If you run you are doomed, If you fight, you just may live.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 18, 2006 9:22 AM
"But they are doing nothing for the moment. They are biding their time.."
-- from the article above
And not just that dirty dozen. All over Europe, millions, biding their time. Bassam Tibi, the Syrian Muslim who teaches in Germany and is married to a German, writes (at another thread) about how, in a Muslim population of 2.5-3 million within Germany, anent his warnings about Islam's menace, only "a few thousand" other Muslims agree with him. By that he means -- only those "few thousand" who, instead of outright apostasy, continue, as both he and Magdi Allam do, to call themselves Muslims -- that is, they are Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only Muslims.
Posted by: Hugh at December 18, 2006 9:24 AM
..and why not return to Spain? Spain caved in to them a few years ago, and now, thus are owned.
Posted by: angryeagle at December 18, 2006 9:35 AM
Say! You don't suppose that some of these were former Iraqi police officers trained in Bagdad by US forces and subsequently "kidnapped" before disappearing do you?
Nope! Couldn't happen in a gazillion years!
at December 18, 2006 9:38 AM
Say! You don't suppose that some of these were former Iraqi police officers trained in Bagdad by US forces and subsequently "kidnapped" before disappearing do you?
Nope! Couldn't happen in a gazillion years!
Posted by: witness
now how did i know that some how someway it was all americas fault!
why i bet witness even has a wedsite to prove it!
at December 18, 2006 9:43 AM
now how did i know that some how someway it was all americas fault!
why i bet witness even has a wedsite to prove it!
Nobody but you even implied such nonsense as this being America's fault! If it were up to people like you we would STILL BE IN VIETNAM!
The problem is ideas and suggestions like yours is what is defeating us in this police action.
You are either an idiot or a traitor or both!
I have a solution to this so-called war with islam that I will not mention here because it would be too insensitive to the islamics and would mischaracterize the intent of JW.
Posted by: witness at December 18, 2006 9:51 AM
Off topic:
Brit schools feeding Christian kids 'halal' meat for 17 years!
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at December 18, 2006 10:22 AM
Not to worry about these fine folk returning to Spain. They just want to get a head start on returning the place to the ummah. Everyone knows once you've been in the ummah you can never leave it.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 18, 2006 10:26 AM
Uhm... thndrbang? Witness was being facetious.
I can very easily see some of those that our forces trained as having been infiltrators, who then were 'kidnapped,' only to show up as the jihadists they really are, elsewhere.
Can we get you two on the same page? I've read comments by both of you and once again it is a case of mis-reading the other's intent.
at December 18, 2006 10:26 AM
Say! You don't suppose that some of these were former Iraqi police officers trained in Bagdad by US forces and subsequently "kidnapped" before disappearing do you?
Nope! Couldn't happen in a gazillion years!
Posted by: witness
ok perhaps i did misread, it just read like the same ole blame america schtick to me!
So witness if i misread please accept my most humble appologies.
as for still being in vietnam, if i had a say in it i would have banned all news media and fought the vietnam war as we had japan and germany and brought americas military home in victory!
after all it wasnt the military that lost vietnam it was our politicians and news media!
but thats all irrelevant now!
so come on, tell me this plan you have to defeat the jihadis, ill tell you mine!
at December 18, 2006 10:49 AM
'MADRID - Mujahedin fighters have returned to bases in Spain after gaining combat experience in Iraq...'
Yes, and PM Zapatero was probably waiting at Madrid's Barajas airport waving his green flag welcoming the jihadists home. Why wouldn't he? 26000 illegal invaders to the Canaries this year, and where are they all now? On the streets of Madrid, Barcelona and Marbella. Funny government the Spanish have got. They are so hopeless at controlling illegal immigration that when the illegal immigrants turn up on shore, the government gives them a letter asking them to leave the country in something like 45 days. Yeah right. After crossing treacherous seas in a boat made of sticks and they're gonna bid au revoir and go home. Yet a few years later and under one of the many amnesties that always tend to solve the problem of illegal immigration - the illegals are given residence permits and then passports. I wonder how many terror cells are amongst these illegals. But there you go. When you elect a Dhimmi with mush for brains, that is the result.
Posted by: GreekFrenchInfidel at December 18, 2006 10:51 AM
Well it's nice to see that the wonderful plan Zapatero (Spanish for "shoe maker") made for protecting his Spanards from future attacks is paying off. Congratulations.
Posted by: Patriot_1/17 at December 18, 2006 11:34 AM
And who will the lousy European 'Leadership' will blame this newest Al Qaida insurgency (and all their subsequent Islamic crimes) on?
Islam?
The Muslims who perpetrate and enable it?
No.
The Orwellian fix has been in since 9/11 -- Europe has never had any intention of joining America in this fight against the onslaught of Islamic Jihad. They've been determined to see the American fight fail utterly at every step. Their feckless and wimpy assistance in Afghanistan is only window dressing, representing the barest minimum our European 'allies' could get away with to maintain the old appearances of 'friendship'.
It's been worth it for them so send a few hundred or a few thousand troops into harms way in order to conceal their true agenda -- to see the American hegemony over them broken utterly and finally, and to allow a new European one to emerge from the rubble.
Well -- we've seen what Europe's cowardice and incompetency is capable of on their own continent and nearby when it comes to resolving problems. They sat on their asses in Kosovo, they're sitting on their asses in Africa, they're sitting on their asses with regards to Iranian Nukes, Russian retrogression towards autocracy -- and they're even sitting on their asses in their own countries, where France, for example, has more than 750 "no go zones" where Muslims rule, where they have set up little inviolable Gaza strips and little seething Beiruts.
Let Spain rot.
Let France rot.
Let Germany rot.
Let them all rot.
Posted by: jsla at December 18, 2006 12:00 PM
Anyone want to take an educated guess on how long (years, decades)it will be till it becomes popular consensus among the people and leaders of the West that this is in fact a War upon the West by ISLAM and not a bunch of
" Evil Do'ers "?
Will they ever admit that it is indeed the religon of ISLAM that is the problem and that the moderates are silent complacent accomplices?
How many will die before they see the truth?
Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 18, 2006 12:29 PM
Will they ever admit that it is indeed the religon of ISLAM that is the problem and that the moderates are silent complacent accomplices?
How many will die before they see the truth?
Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 18, 2006 12:29 PM
I'm afraid we'll all be long dead before this happens. According to Muslims, Islam is the world's longest running hostage crisis-for 1400 years it's been hijacked by a tiny group of crazies and misunderstanders. Once the vast moderate majority finally manages to free that prisoner all will be well. So far, no signs of progress are apparent so we will remain under threats of death for the forseeable future.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 18, 2006 12:36 PM
You mean to say that pulling Spanish troops out of Iraq in 2004 and the unceasing efforts of 'Mr. cobbler' (Senor Zapatero) have not cobbled together a patchwork of peace for the people in what is formerly known as al-Andalus? ( Spain )
You mean that you don't get reciprocity when you accomodate Islamic Jihadis? Que triste.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at December 18, 2006 12:56 PM
Jihadis returning to Spain!
No problem, The place is awash with 1/2m+ nosey busy-bodies, otherwise known as british pensioners with nothing to do, they'll be able to keep tabs on these miscreants.
The plan however, might collapse as they can't speak spanish and probably will have problems in dealing with "foreigners".
I wonder if repeatedly talking loud and slow to the Jihadis will render them defenseless.
Come to think of it all ops will be fruitless if it clashes with bingo and eastenders, scratch that plan.
at December 18, 2006 1:00 PM
The folks in Spain have nothing to worry about. Their appeasement guarantees their safety, right?
Posted by: George Bruce at December 18, 2006 1:04 PM
"The folks in Spain have nothing to worry about. Their appeasement guarantees their safety, right? "
Posted by: George Bruce
-----------------------------------------------
I know your post was sarcasm but it is a good point.
Give em an inch and they will take a Mile.
no concessions should ever be made . Spain Will be an example and proof of that
at December 18, 2006 1:13 PM
It's so ridiculous. So there you have it. All reactivity, all the time...never proactive measures taken.
If it stinks like a jihadi, it is a jihadi. There is no real reason to wait until the bomb goes off, the chemicals burn the skin or the light flashes and vaporizes the populace to root out the scum and remove them. If they are 'colonists', boot them out. If they are born and bred spaniards, they are treasonous and should also get the boot and/or prosecuted. Law enforcement FAILS when it is always chasing crime after the fact. There needs to be an understanding and measures in place to nip things in the bud. To live by the mantra of 'not if, but when' is not a way to live a life. Take a stand, do what you have to do and turn a deaf ear to the sobs of the wicked!
'nuff said.
at December 18, 2006 1:27 PM
Great Britain and Europe,
Two totally different places, even though we are allegedly part of Europe, i dont know anyone in this country who consider's themselves European, over here we are British, or more likely English.
It is fair to say, that people's eyes are slowly being opened to the menace of islum here, we have been tolerant and we have been understanding in the past but we have discovered this to be a one way street with nothing but intolerance and blame being given back.
We can see what is happening in France, in Spain and in Germany and if the current trends continue, a certain religion is going to find out what we use the English Channel for in times of need.
Thanks for your time, sugar in your tea?
Tommy Atkins
England
at December 18, 2006 1:56 PM
As a former component of the ummah, Spain is already viewed as islamic territory. The jihadists may allow the Spanish to govern themselves for a few more years.
Posted by: MP at December 18, 2006 2:16 PM
More of a threat than Islam is the indifference of non-Muslims to the threat of Islam. It's disturbing to think about the number of non-Muslims who are out there, rejecting the facts against Islam, reacting negatively to those who state the facts. To me, those people are a far more great threat to our way of life than Islam can ever be, because they are either my friends or my neighbors; and if they don't side with the reality of the situation (against Islam), who will? My views are not against "Muslims," as they are victims of Islam (in the majority, by having been spoon-fed with Koranic verses for their entire lives, in every aspect of their lives), but against their false religion.
Face the facts and learn the truth about Islam. End political correctness now and expose the true nature of Islam.
Posted by: Stronghold at December 18, 2006 2:58 PM
Greece and Europe,
Two totally different places, even though we are allegedly part of Europe, i dont know anyone in this country who consider's themselves European, over here we are Greek, or more likely Athenean.
It is fair to say, that people's eyes are slowly being opened to the menace of islum here, we have been tolerant and we have been understanding in the past but we have discovered this to be a one way street with nothing but intolerance and blame being given back.
We can see what is happening in France, in Spain and in Germany and if the current trends continue, a certain religion is going to find out what we use the Corinth Canal for in times of need.
Thanks for your time, baklava with your Tsikoudia?
Thomos Atikus
Crete
at December 18, 2006 4:02 PM
HOW do you say Allah Akbar in Spanish?
Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 18, 2006 4:25 PM
Como dices Allah Akbar en espaņol?
Posted by: rudekid at December 18, 2006 4:39 PM
Zapatero is an appeaser. The Spanish don't care if their country is overrun by muslims. The party is over.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at December 18, 2006 5:06 PM
Jsla said:
"The Orwellian fix has been in since 9/11 -- Europe has never had any intention of joining America in this fight against the onslaught of Islamic Jihad. They've been determined to see the American fight fail utterly at every step."
Someone tell them to be careful what they wish for. They just might get it. The American hegemony broken? Our troops brought home? The UN left on their doorstep? Hmmmmmm.
Posted by: PMK at December 18, 2006 5:58 PM
after all it wasnt the military that lost vietnam it was our politicians and news media!
but thats all irrelevant now!
so come on, tell me this plan you have to defeat the jihadis, ill tell you mine
Okay, so I was a bit grouchy and I concede that we may actually be on the same page after all.
We might actually have the same idea about the islamic solution, but truly I do not wish to state it here because I do not want my opinions and suggestions used to discredit this website.
Really, my solution is in the extreme and actually implementing such a notion would have moral implications irrespective of islam or their followers, which must be seriously considered.
at December 18, 2006 9:28 PM
Really, my solution is in the extreme and actually implementing such a notion would have moral implications irrespective of islam or their followers, which must be seriously considered.
I do not want my opinions and suggestions used to discredit this website.
Posted by: witness
>>> im sure by now we are all aware that if we state that islam is a peaceful religion and muslims are all a wonderful innocent peace loving allah worshipping peoples the muslims will find cause to complain about our testimony!
as for muslims seeking to discredit this site they already try and will always continue to do so untill we are all the good little dhimmis they intend us to be!
Mr Ropbert Spencer ,as we have all seen has a very respectable and intelligent way of handling such jihadis ,appeasers and appologist.
I believe the purpose of this site is not only to teach nonmuslims about islam but also to give all who have learned the truth of islam a chance to share ideas of ways to fight and defeat islam!
Personally, ive come to the conclusion that defeating islam doesnt necessarily mean to stop muslims from practicing their religion and worship their satanic diety allah if they wish to do so. In america we permit satanist to worship satan if they desire as long as they do no harm to others!
With that said i believe defeating islam means to stop muslims from fighting in the cause of allah. So first we must understand exactly what "fighting in the cause allah" entails.
according to muslim well experienced in the practice of using taqqiya to decieve the nonmuslims fighting in the cause of allah has many meanings as does jihad. So we must ignore muslims difinition of jihad and fighting in the cause of allah and permit allah to define what these terms mean!This is keeping with the teachings of muhammad and allah and the qu'ran and sunnah! Allah states only allah knows the interpretation of his revelations!
So what allah defines as "fighting in the cause of allah" in all the unholy books of islam is,
All muslims who have reached the age of maturity and are sane young and old male and female are commanded and obligated to attack rob rape, terrorize, torture, torment, subdue, enslave, and slaughter anyone and everyone who refuses to submit to allah ,muhammad and islam!
This is allahs difinition, not my own and the muslims and appeasers and appologist can deny this difinition until hell freezes over.There are many ayahs in the qu'ran and many hadiths to prove this is indeed the accurate difinition of the meaning of jihad and fighting in the cause of allah! ill post two quotes from the qu'ran and their tafsir to prove i have the correct difinition!
SURAH 9-29,,Fight those people of the Book (Jews and Christians) who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, do not refrain from what has been prohibited by Allah and His Messenger and do not embrace the religion of truth (Al-Islam), until they pay Jizya (protection tax) with their own hands and feel themselves subdued.[29]
Tafsir al-Jalalayn: surah 9}_29
"Fight those who do not believe in allah", nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what allah and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam - from among of those who (min, 'from', explains [the previous] alladhīna, 'those who') have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily ('an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier,meaning, 'compliantly', or 'by their own hands', not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam.
SURAH 8-67,,It is not fit for a Prophet that he should take prisoners of war until he has thoroughly subdued the land. Do you, O followers of Muhammad, desire the temporal goods of this world, while Allah desires for you the hereafter? Allah is Mighty, Wise.[67]
Tafsir al-Jalalayn: surah 8}_67
The following was revealed when they ransomed those taken captive at Badr: It is not for any Prophet to have (read as an takūna lahu or an yakūna lahu) prisoners """until he has made slaughter in the land""", going all the way in fighting disbelievers. You, O believers, desire the transient things of this world, its ephemeral gains, by ransoming, while God desires, for you, the Hereafter, that is, its reward, through your killing them; and God is Mighty, Wise: this was abrogated by His words [and set them free] afterward either with grace or by ransom [Q. 47:4].
Thats pretty much self explainatory!
The reward for muslims slaughtering nonmuslims is a free all expense paid, one way trip to allahsville.
at December 19, 2006 12:27 AM
of the big danger of these guys returning to Spain is that 500 years ago Spain and overrun by two leged rodents and it took until 1492 to exterminate them and get rid of these disgusting Muslim rodents when the new breed disease carrying jihadist rodents are worse than the black death , and because of the schizophrenic ways and belief that once Muslims overrun the land like a plage that the land that land must and is always Muslim land and they want Spain back even though the Spaniards made it plain they did not want the Muslims as overlords paying them protection money
Posted by: islamakapigeaters at December 19, 2006 12:56 AM
Europe is much like a beautiful neighborhood that has allowed the drug gangs and prostitutes take over. Such vermin, once they start taking over one house at a time lowers the property values and puts the remaining residents in fear of everything.
The only way to restore such a beautful neighborhood is to start reclaiming it house by house. You start removing the gangs, prostitutes,and street vermin off the streets.
If it takes martial law to do so, then it must be done.
Wake up Europe! you are losing your once beautiful neighborhood. The carriers of your demise have been identified!! Fight back and do it now. Failure to do will find you bobbing your head five times a day and you will look stupid wearing beards blindly following some weido cleric shaking his crooked finger and pronouncing to the mindless fools gathered in front of him alllllahhhh akkkkbaaaar.
at December 19, 2006 7:11 AM
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