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December 20, 2006

UK: Police killer escapes in veil

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Of course I'm my sister. Don't I look like her?

Are they listening in Grand Rapids? "Police killer escapes in veil," by Paul Jeeves in the Daily Mail, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

A SUSPECTED police killer escaped capture by fleeing Britain disguised as a Muslim woman.

Asylum seeker Mustaf Jama hid beneath a full-face niqab veil to sneak through Heathrow posing as his sister.

Jama, who is wanted for the murder of policewoman Sharon Beshenivsky, also wore a flowing head-to-toe jilbab as he fled to Somalia.

The Muslim gangster had been freed from jail six months earlier when Home Office officials ruled it would be unfair to deport him to his war-torn homeland because it was too dangerous.

The scandal emerged yesterday as Jama’s brother Yusuf was convicted of the murder of 38-year-old WPC Beshenivsky in a bungled robbery. Muzzaker Shah, 25, was also convicted of murder and two accomplices were convicted of manslaughter.

Jama was Britain’s most wanted man when, during last year’s Christmas holidays, he sneaked through Heathrow – even though air, rail and sea ports were on red alert following the murder in Bradford the month before.

Posted by Robert at December 20, 2006 7:32 AM
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Please don't forbid the veil! It's no threat to security! PLEEEASE!

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 7:52 AM

And Muslims in this country say we shouldnt profile.
I sure hope Congress isnt stupid enough to pass a anti profiling bill.
As far as I'm concerned it should be against the Law NOT to profle Muslims. Strip search every dang one of them that uses public transportation of any kind.
That would send them a packing real quick. No special laws, no lawsuits, no Muslims. Problem solved!

Posted by: frodnum [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 7:54 AM

The Muslim gangster had been freed from jail six months earlier when Home Office officials ruled it would be unfair to deport him to his war-torn homeland because it was too dangerous


........stupid officials! since when is it too dangerous to send a killer to a kill zone.

Ban Muslim immigration now.

deport those whose violate your countries laws. They are Muslim and there should be no concern about deporting them to a Muslim country.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:04 AM

This is hardly surprising and this is not the first time this has happened in the UK. I daresay it has happened scores of times but the only other report I've seen on this was a man in a burqa - even better than a face mask, a body bag.

He's a cop-killer which *might* just get people in the government to wake up and ban this ludicrous face mask for security reasons, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Alex [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:09 AM

Im shocked I tell you shocked that something like this might happen. Who would of thought that criminally minded people could do such a thing.

I am sure there is no reason to ban the burka & niqab, to do so would just be Islamophobia.

Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:20 AM

We now know Muslim men are cross dressers. They go bi....It increases their chance for success.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:21 AM

Which will happen first, if at all?:

1) Europe becomes Islamicized.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Islamicized

2) Europe explodes into WW4 to fight off the Muslim hordes of the 21st century.

3) Europe is invaded by Russia.

4) Europe attacks the United States.

5) Europe becomes crippled by reliance on Russian and Middle Eastern oil and gas.

-----

#5 has already happened.

#1 is in the works.

#3 isn't as crazy as it sounds.

#4 will happen eventually.

#2 is highly unlikely.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:24 AM

Maybe if we offer him the alternative Queen's speech slot on channel 4 now vacant, he will come back!!!

There are also lots of openings in Pantos, where men drag up as Women such as Widow Twankie.In Britain we alway saw Transvestism as funny , but just look who's laughing now.

He's behind you , he's behind you , too slow, you are not paying attention,now he's fled.

It's Britain and the leftie, liberal multi-cultural integration policy that is the real comedy of errors.

Posted by: raz [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:27 AM

I think the governments are spiritually blind and by being so they let people like this slip by because Satan is helping decieving one and helping the other.

I bet if he was in Somolia he would be going round with the rebels and chopping peoples heads off if the infidels did not pray five times a day.
In a way he is better here he would enjoy Somolia.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:27 AM

Foehammer, excellent analysis. Unfortunately, you're right :(

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:32 AM

the British Galloway was in Canada on some Toronto station, and complained how draconian the new law about banning those burkas in the Netherlands. if the Brits have any law for treason, he would be first in line for charges.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:41 AM

The Muslim gangster had been freed from jail six months earlier when Home Office officials ruled it would be unfair to deport him to his war-torn homeland because it was too dangerous.


Now why would Somalia be a dangerous place for this animal? It's filled with his bretheren.

I don't get it-a loser comes from cesspoolia, commits a crime, spends a little time in jail but isn't deported because his homeland is dangerous. Yet it's OK for him to be dangerous in his new country. So Britain is basically supposed to keep foreign criminals because they might be harmed back home and never mind the threat they pose to the British?
What the F--- is this????

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:45 AM

What the F--- is this????
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
---------

It's democracy, the worst kind of government according to Churchill (except for all other governments). And he was right.

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:48 AM

What the F--- is this????
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 08:45 AM

Its the multiculti dream being played out in all its glory right in front of our eyes.

To all lefty liberals reading this who have championed this multiculti nightmare are you happy now.

Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:53 AM

Veil= Evil
It's intergaltically wrong to have a Veil because how would we know if it's not an alien hiding in there or some type of shapeshifter that can only hold a certain form for a small amount of time.
Even Satan would can hide in a Veil and we would not know. In this climate of the world against terror we should not allow veils as they conciel too much information.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:58 AM


The holier than thou Muslims are now cross-dressing?

Muslims gone wild: "Transvestites"

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:02 AM

What will it take for our countries to smarten up, wipe the smoke(screen) from their eyes, see the danger and protect us from it?

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:13 AM

ban the burka, solve many problems and security concerns.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:19 AM

Yes - but what about his sister whose (British?)passport he used to get away? What about the rest of his family? Are they sheltering in Britain from "War torn Somalia"?

Will they be prosecuted for aiding him?

I guess not. The friends of the last (Algerian) "Asylum seeker" to kill a police officer got off and Civil Rights lawyers got them British residence rights and full welfare.

Is killing police officers a fast track to British citizenship and welfare for all concerned?

Posted by: Fred [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:20 AM

The Muslim gangster had been freed from jail six months earlier when Home Office officials ruled it would be unfair to deport him to his war-torn homeland because it was too dangerous.....

Huh???...Who's the head of these "home office officials?"....Michael Dukakis????...What a joke!....Deport Deport Deport....NOW!.....

Posted by: Oiznop [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:33 AM

This great news. A few more incidents like this and the veil and burqa and niqab will not be allowed in UK and the Continent. For obvious security reasons

"War is deceit" - said their false prophet

Islam Based on Epileptic Prophecies, says Book From Iran-Native Neuropsychologist


CANTON, Ohio, Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Religious prophet Muhammad
suffered from epileptic seizures, according to a book recently released by
a Tehran- native and Muslim-raised neuropsychologist. Abbas Sadeghian
delivers these findings in the book Sword & Seizure, which is based on
historical text, including the Koran.
Sadeghian was inspired by a comparable paper he presented in 2001 at
New York University's Fielding Institute. He says Muhammad had suffered
from "complex partial seizures," which are displayed through "excessive
sweating and light trembling, olfactory, auditory and visual
hallucinations, epigastric sensations (bad taste), excessive perspiration
and hyper-religiosity." He says evidence of these is recounted throughout
the Koran.
When asked by a reporter from the Canton Repository if the same
diagnosis could apply to Jesus, Buddha or other religious figures,
Sadeghian replied there aren't nearly as many independent historical
documents detailing their lives.
"In order to do proper analysis, you must have documentation
independent of what the person wrote," he said. "Muhammad lived longer and
had people around him who were aware they were living in a historic moment.
They documented observations in extreme detail and in real time."
Abbas Sadeghian, Ph.D has been practicing neuropsychology for nearly 20
years and is a long-standing faculty member at Northeastern Ohio
Universities College of Medicine. His book is now available at both Barnes
& Noble and Borders, as well as Amazon and the publisher's online store.
(http://www.annotationbooks.com/product.asp?pid=1374&search=&select=&ss
=1)

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-11-2006/0004489022&EDATE=

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:36 AM

There will never be an anti Muslim profiling bill here (USA) Before that ever happens there will be a terror incident that will render it a moot point. I will take all bets under $50 on this

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:41 AM

Foehammer

Should it come to pass that Eurabia does attack the US, I & many other Englishmen who remember the sacrifice of the US with regards to England will be the best fifth column of saboteurs & fifth columnists in history - providing of course that we have not extracated ourselves from the grip of the Franco / German conspiracy against us by then.

If Eurabia thinks it has problems with the English in peace time (lets face it, most Welsh, Scottish & Irish are more sympathetic towards being a part of a socialist superstate), then it would do well to remember what we are capable of in wartime.

Europe has no stomach for war though - & would gladly shuttle off meekly into a new dark age rather than confront fascism. Its a trait they never got the hang of - recognising a threat & dealing with it.

Maybe they are sheltering under a secret but false belief that the US Cavalry will head the new fascists off at the pass & save them again.

The liberal left press & the Islington Bistro Guardianista set keep bleating on here about the radicalisation of a tiny minority of "our" Muslim youth - they should be more concerned with the rampant & long overdue radicalisation of 40 something white middle class taxpaying, voting professionals if they had any sense.

Posted by: albion [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 9:58 AM

This perversion of multiculturalism and being politically correct clearly represents one of our biggest security headaches.

The obvious ability of someone to hide their face behind a veil, or mask doesn't even come close to rocket science.

I really have began to wonder who is running the asylum. If homeland security,a branch of the federal government; cannot even establish security guidlines that make it illegal to wear a mask, or veil of any kind throughout the country then once again we demonstrate a weak link of what is an obvious enemy or criminal advantage.

As serious as this should be treated, there is some real good cartoons there to illustrate the obvious. I see several police officers running around an airport with a photo of a wanted suspect and there feverishly checking everybody except a person who walks right thru it all wearing a hijab.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:00 AM

This incompetent goverment were annoyed when the
BNP called them cockroaches not because they
insulted Islam.
The BNP were right , they are cockroaches...
a government for cockroaches to let them in and
out of a crime ridden immigrant infested Britain.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:00 AM


The holier than thou Muslims are now cross-dressing?

Muslims gone wild: "Transvestites"

Posted by: DCWatson at December 20, 2006 09:02 AM

Dear Sir, Please do not associate these disgusting terrorist mongrels with transgendered people. They are already suffering from daily attacks on overweight transgendered folk (trans-fats) and cannot stand the strain of additional disdain.

thanks.

Posted by: icanplainlysee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:06 AM

Once again foreign criminals get more rights and consideration than do law abiding citizens. Sometimes I think the way the ummah does things makes more sense than the way things are done in the West anymore.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:12 AM

ISLAMSFORLOSERS
"Sometimes I think the way the ummah does things makes more sense than the way things are done in the West anymore."

You know, I tell people all the time that there are certain things about these Muslim countries that I think is right. However, the way they go about enforcing those laws and such is to heavy handed. Like "off with their head". for the smallest infraction.
Well, chop, chop, gotta get going!

Posted by: frodnum [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:33 AM

Really?....but the veil is sacred and holy, it would be a disgrace to our faith to allow women out in public without.........you all know what I'm getting at.

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:35 AM

Assalamau alaikum all,

Peoples I know that this is hard....but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...(even though I do not wear one)...and is extremely likely to impact your grand-daughters anyway (i.e. they will need to take on the veil).

The fact this vile "animal" escaped the police is more attribuatable to your (and somalia's) security personel at the airports, sea-ports.

Why wasn't "she" challenged to show her face,... banning the veil is punishing innocent muslimas and not this man.

I think the Britsh Tax payer in this instance needs to foot the bill to go and bring him back to face justice...and toughen up the procedures at each airport , seaport to see all muslima faces....it's as simple as that....but please do not ban the veil that has served Islam for over 1400 years...if necessary talk to your local MP to ensure no ban.

Your co-operation is much appreciated in this context..


Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:36 AM

Point made!

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:40 AM

why is it not o.k to threatin naseem,or make fun of her dead husband,but its o.k for her to threatin my grand daughetrs?

Posted by: Patriot8 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:44 AM

Naseem,

You are some kind of joker, aren´t you? You cannot possibly be real.

If you do not wear a veil, why should others? You do not, obviously, believe that your Allah will damn you for showing your face. Then you must believe that Muslim men are such animals that they cannot see a woman's face without wanting to rape her. (No, no animals are like that. I think I meant monsters.)

Probably you are not a woman at all, but a class of boys in a Pakistani school trying to practise their English.

Dixi

Posted by: Dixi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:48 AM

now...now... you don't want to offend anybody....

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:49 AM

NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED BY CRAZY MUSLIMS


They thought it would be too cruel to export his murderous butt back to HIS OWN COUNTRY???

Then he kills another innocent Westerner and flees to Somalia????

I hope they don't make that mistake again with any other similarly situated Muslim prisoner.

PROVERB: IT IS NEVER TOO CRUEL TO SHIP A CRIMINAL BACK TO HIS HOME COUNTRY.

Posted by: Tookson [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:50 AM

"Peoples I know that this is hard....but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...."

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freedom for muslimas...

LOL.

No damn masks, cowls, huge dark sunglasses, etc. should be allowed in public buildings except under the most logical of situations -- like a parade or if Santa Claus is working for Macy's, or Halloween. And even then, those times are in need of more attention and care thanks to the incursions of Islamist maniacs into our societies....the "muslimas" that will one day soon be the vehicle by which innocents are murdered in the United States, I'm sure.

How are we to ever trust Muslims if you want to walk around like ninjas in broad daylight? You people and your utter arrogance and stupid adherence to such a vile cult simply astound me.

This is a war. Take off the veil or be arrested, badgered, perhaps even shot. How does that sound?

My God, the time is over for this kind of nonsense to be acceptable in civilized cultures -- and the last time I checked, democracies create their own laws in order to protect their citizenry. What the hell is wrong with Europe that it is being funneled to the gas chambers before our very eyes? The only laws that seem to get installed with any zest are ones that further the cause of Islam!

Like the Nazis the Muslims clergy and CAIR-esque propaganda artists lie, mentally terrorize and use thuggery to gain acceptance. If there is any difference at all between Nazi and Muslim, it is simply that the Muslims are far more adept at lies and treachery, half-truths and pious belief in a fantastical nightmare that they are so intent on enveloping the globe with that they'd willingly die to see it succeed. Even most of the Nazis valued their own skins more than their loyalty to Hitler!

But not so with the Muhammadens -- for the New Caliphate they march, whether openly or in secret, surrounding their tvs in London apartment buildings and cheering at the deaths of more Americans in Iraq, but ever, so ever humble and smiling in public.

You don't fool me, Naseem.

And that's why your kind will lose.


Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:51 AM

Keep it up dummies and in the not too distant future we will ban you all from our countries. By all means start by banning the garbage sack we will see self deportation of these jihadists begin to occur. They are new to the west yet they walk in and think they can just tell us what to do. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, what a joke, on them of course. Too much inbreeding has destroyed their brains, it is sad but who cares?
Jihadists, if you want to control the world you better find a way to rule the seas. Ever see a muslim pirate?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/africa_enl_1137929449/html/1.stm
He who rules the seas rules the world.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:53 AM

the rampant & long overdue radicalisation of 40 something white middle class taxpaying, voting professionals if they had any sense
by albion

I hope you're right but I don't think that this lot will be a problem until the tsunami Islami hits with the big one. I don't hold out much hope for sheeple until they actually get hit hard.


Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 10:56 AM

why is it not o.k to threatin naseem,or make fun of her dead husband,but its o.k for her to threatin my grand daughetrs?

hugh,robert?

Posted by: Patriot8 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:00 AM

sorry should have been,

why is it not o.k to threatin naseem,or make fun of her dead husband,but its o.k for her to threatin my grand daughetrs?

Hugh,Robert?

Posted by: Patriot8 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:01 AM

One simple question. It is o.k. to use your "cultural accessories" for criminal activities, but it is not o.k. for anybody to question or suspect you for breaking the law? I need clarity here.

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:05 AM

The only clarity we'll need in 10 years will be gun oil and more ammunition.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:06 AM

What a coward ! They look down on women but still find them useful in all ways.

A prayer for the soul of the policewoman.

Allat

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:10 AM

Patriot 8, I've often wondered the same thing, but, thats the way it goes now adays. If someone ever said some of the things I've read in these postings to anyone in our fathers and grand fathers generation, they would of gotten the Royal SMACK-down. But you just gotta laugh at it all. You know if it ever really came down to it, we would prevail. Patriot 8 is a great name I know you would kick butt!! Maybe I'm too much an optimist, but I believe in our culture. Atleast we are allowed to debate issues, imagine living in Saudi or Iran. Who would want to anyway, other than maybe your boy/girl Nauseema.

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:14 AM

It makes no difference, person place or thing the jihadists will either kill it, destroy it or find a way to use it to kill or destroy other persons, places and things. If you gave them a feather they would turn it around and stick the pointy end in someone’s eye.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:15 AM

The only clarity we'll need in 10 years will be gun oil and more ammunition.

Posted by: Foehammer


Thats about as clear as it gets!!!! I hear ya!

Posted by: americanmadestrat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:18 AM

"deport those whose violate your countries laws. They are Muslim and there should be no concern about deporting them to a Muslim country"

En masse. If they are NOT civilized enough to live here, if they don't show that they can deal w/freedom and liberty. AWAY with them.

I tish-toshed before at the phrase: "They hate us because of our freedoms"-

BUT - now I see it is TOO true. It is the TRUTH.


There definitely should NOT be a full veil allowed here. Like the Israeli which do not allow it.
I read a story a while back - that a police woman who converted was getting her id photo - and wanted to hv it taken with full face veil. It wasn't allowed. I found the story hilarious at the time - and yes, I find the conotations of the creeping in of islam in the western culture, a very serious matter.

Allat

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:19 AM

"If Eurabia thinks it has problems with the English in peace time (lets face it, most Welsh, Scottish & Irish are more sympathetic towards being a part of a socialist superstate), then it would do well to remember what we are capable of in wartime. "

Are you going to go "Braveheart" on us? It may come to that.


Blessing,

Allat

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:27 AM

Maybe I'm too much an optimist, but I believe in our culture.

i'm with ya,americanmadestrat.When the time comes i'll stand side by side with ya againt ilsma.
But i would still like to know why it is o.k for naseem to threating my grand kids,my i.d has been blocked 7 times(thats why patriot8)i was told to stop messin with naseem,nukeing mecca,not contibuting to the convo?but naseem states all the time she wish's our grand children to a life of hell,rape,torture,buts THATS o.k?

Posted by: Patriot8 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:31 AM

"but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...(even though I do not wear one)...and is extremely likely to impact your grand-daughters anyway (i.e. they will need to take on the veil). "

Well, a bit off topic - but it seems to be assbackwards that islam claims women are dumb, and yet puts the onus of sexual responsibility of dumbo women. WHAT! Then moslem men have do self-control that the minute they see a female face, they instantly must mount her? Are muslim men constantly in heat- what they can't keep their "thingie" in their loincloth?

Allat

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:34 AM

Any police ever show up at my door/in my neighborhood in sacks and I will immediately assume I am under terrorist attack and respond accordingly. i will assume that the jihadists have stolen badges and are impersonating law enforcement. No amount of guvment mau mauing concerning jihadists will alter my course. This is so ridiculous it is beyond the realm of intelligent thought. What if I start going out in public ala, Jesse James, hat, bandana, throw in some sunglasses and bam I am instantly unrecognizable?

That’s interesting Patriot12345678, I didn’t know that.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:36 AM

If you gave them a feather they would turn it around and stick the pointy end in someone’s eye.

Posted by: tgusa at December 20, 2006 11:15 AM

That's hilarious! But true. The Stepford Muslims
must fulfill their prime directive-kill and kill again.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:42 AM

lol cant keep a good patriot down,but out of respect to J/W i usually keep my mouth shut.

Posted by: Patriot8 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:43 AM

Peoples I know that this is hard....but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...(even though I do not wear one)...and is extremely likely to impact your grand-daughters anyway (i.e. they will need to take on the veil).
Posted by: Naseem at December 20, 2006 10:36 AM

Bet you thought you were being clever here Naseem.

This is the bottom line. Although not prevalent in the US at the moment, America will wake up and begin to discriminate against Muslims in this country. Profiling, subjagation, deportation et al. Although not openly professed, Muslim immigration will also be nigh impossible. This will of course lead to attacks by "humiliated" Muslims,which will then, in turn justify mass deportation of more Muslims. Once the influx is controlled and the American Jizya is in full force, there will never be a Muslim majority in this country....never.

You have a better chance of sharing a BLT and a Budweiser with your "beloved" Anwer, than my grand-daughter ever wearing a veil besides on her wedding day.

While you can laugh now at the state of Europe, it will be relatively short-lived. If Europe falls into an Islamic Republic, it will be very entertaining to watch the Continent fall into utter disarray and poverty. The Qur'an doesn't feed your family. It also doesn't build bridges, hospitals, power plants etc. We here at JW understand Islam and those unfortunates who follow that "bastard" religion. If I had nothing, and little to no prospect of achieving anything meaningful in my lifetime, Jihad would probably seem appealing to me as well.

Once all the infidels are gone, there's just the Muslims left. Don't think for one minute the Qur'an is going to keep a world full of Muslims content and working in harmony. The Islamic culture, which currently dominates the Middle East, is living proof of the ultimate failure of Islam. Without the petroleum, what does the region possess? How will it sustain itself?

Contrary to the drivel about how the world will be perfect when fully islamicized, even a marginally educated man like yourself knows this not to be true. There wil still be haves and have-nots like in every society. Once the infidels are dominated, there will be in-house domination of Muslims against other Muslims. Contrary to the laws of the Qur'an, this is already quite visible with the current Sunni / Shia conflicts, amongst others.

We, as Americans, understand the envy of the world. That is part of the deal that comes with living in the most progressive country in the world. Ironically, it was the separation of church and state that made the "empire of the world" what it is today. Freedom from religious persecution is what our fore fathers sought and what we seek to maintain today. But make no mistake about it. The United States does not thrive due to adherence to any particular book of scripture, and never will.

The West, for all it's petty faults is progressive in nature, while Islam is re-gressive. In reality it is like the aging process. In the West we are small and then grow strong and wise. Islam promotes a regression from self-sufficient to completely dependent.

The rational flaws of Islam, and there are many, are easier to understand if one simply accepts the source. The creator of Islam, an ethically challenged, self-serving narcissist was flawed in many ways. Muslims try to cover up there obvious embarassment with some of the details of his life, and rightly so. He certainly was not someone to model a religion over. So therefore; Islam is adulterated at its inception.

Islam is a castle built on a swamp. Contrary to any logic, it was built there because some book said so and will ultimately and thankfully sink into the depths of that very swamp.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:49 AM

Wasn't it maryam who said that men dressing as women was forbidden in islam?
I believe the phrase is..."that is not islam"
/right

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 12:35 PM


"Peoples I know that this is hard....but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...."


Naseem, you have to be a moby....No one in their right mind would say the idiotic things that you say on this site.

If you're not a moby, then face it, the caravan raiding false prophet Muhammad was a violent man, and nothing more than an illiterate warlord.

If he had really received a message from God, he would have been peaceful afterward. He was the opposite. His teachings of violence, and all that he really stood for has, for 1400 years, continued to be a worldwide problem, not a worldwide solution.

Stop being such a nauseating little troll. You have no legitimate defense for Islam or any of its so called values.

Go ahead and keep coming back here to post though, you prove many points everytime you let your fingers do the walking across your keyboard, tu facha de merda. We were warned centuries ago to beware of false prophets. Thus, we are.

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 12:39 PM

Wasn't it maryam who said that men dressing as women was forbidden in islam?
I believe the phrase is..."that is not islam"
/right

Posted by: Carolyn2

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War is deceipt. remember?

how convienient .

Islam is Hypocricy and can be tailored to suit whatever need you have,as we all know. lies and deceipt are permissable if it benefits Islam, and this PIG is Islam at it's finest. a filthy Lyer, deciever and last of all a coward.

Do we know if his Sister aided him?

Of course she did.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 1:18 PM

These costumes should be banned.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 1:35 PM

There is no difference betwen a Muslim woman walking up a british street with her face veiled and a 1930's fascist parading in his nice, new black shirt. It is a political uniform and ought to be regarded as an offence againt the act of parliament banning such things.

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 1:50 PM

This has been happening in India for quite long - the Jammu Kashmir police never try to check the niqab clad 'ladies' for fear of starting off riots --- but in reality it is the terrorists who are ferryign arms under the niqab/burkha

Posted by: fcuk [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 2:17 PM

"He says Muhammad had suffered
from "complex partial seizures," which are displayed through "excessive
sweating and light trembling, olfactory, auditory and visual
hallucinations, epigastric sensations (bad taste), excessive perspiration
and hyper-religiosity." He says evidence of these is recounted throughout
the Koran."

Nothing an experienced Exorcist couldn't have taken care of.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 3:28 PM

but please do not ban the veil that has served Islam for over 1400 years.


.... AND RATHER POORLY I might add. Muslim men have degraded and mistreated women for at least that long.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 4:27 PM

lol, what did they expect???

Welcome tothe wonderful world of that age-old anti-matter counterpart to common sense:
political correctness

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 4:56 PM

ZenaWarriorPrincess

I agree with your sentiment but please , don't offend:

"the British Galloway was in Canada on some Toronto station"

He's Scottish, and a bad one at that. He's probably more arab than an arab come to think of it.

Posted by: rudekid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 5:15 PM

does this mean anyone can rob a bank run out don the burqa and long flowing black sheet and not be searched( molested) by the law?
where does one sign up?

Posted by: thndrbang1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 5:50 PM

does this mean anyone can rob a bank run out don the burqa and long flowing black sheet and not be searched( molested) by the law?
where does one sign up?

Posted by: thndrbang1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 5:50 PM

Islamo-sissies! They sure do love to cross-dress.

Since when is it the responsibility of the Home Office to protect these terrorist criminals from other terrorist criminals. I think it would have been justice (and much cheaper) to return him to his homeland.

Imagine Osama out there in drag!

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 6:18 PM

You really couldn't make it up, could you? It's like something out of a Carry On film.

How many more of these sad sacks wandering our streets covered head-to-foot in shapeless black robes are actually men?

Someone recently claimed on this site that when they saw one they pointed and shouted loudly 'Hey, that one's a man!'. The result was that the individual in question beat a hasty retreat, having no way to disprove the claim. I'm beginning to believe that in most cases they were really men anyway!

Posted by: Aardvark [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 6:29 PM

If you think that's big...

Wait until everyone finds out those "holy places of worship" called mosques are nothing less than armories of military hardware...just like they are in the mOslem countries (like Iraq gets away with every day)...same ones they scream about being untouchable (which should be a really big clue anyway...but isn't)...

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 6:34 PM

I'm feelin jolly islumaphobic and you may be shocked by my words...

I dont think we should allow people to cover their faces in public.

There i said it.

*next week, why shitting in the bath isnt as good as shitting in the toilet, dont miss it*

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 7:15 PM

Nasseems says this""Peoples I know that this is hard....but please you must not ban the veil. This is a very important aspect of freedom for muslimas...."

well l vote we ban the veil and the stupid muslim that goes with it. easy no more terror, no more headaches at the airports.. a lot easier to live without muslims.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 7:40 PM

thndrbang1
a month ago or so in toronto, stores were robbed by men in burqas. so we need to ban all burqas. like the Netherlands, and best yet ban muslims who want to wear them.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 7:42 PM

Naseem,

Put the crack pipe down and listen up. The veil is going to be banned, because these idiots blew it. You kill a police person in a western country and you can kiss your butt goodbye.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for raising guys who always seem to release before the proper moment. (No sexual pun intended but, hey, if the shoe fits...) You guys really need to practice a little more patience. If you keep jumping the gun, your whole plan for world domination ain't going to work sweetheart.

But don't fret, my grand daughters won't be wearing the veil. They'll be teaching your grandkids where to get the lastest summer sandals with toe cleavage, the best places to go to get their toes painted and where the best sales are to get cute summer shorts and sundresses. They'll look real pur-ty and you and I will smile as we sit together, getting our toes done and drinking margaritas. Come towards the light, Naseem. You are so close, I know you can taste it.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 8:23 PM

Simple...fight crime- shoot back.
Ooops, sorry I forgot many don't have the right to keep and bear arms like hundreds of milions of us do.

Never mind...lol

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2006 11:48 PM

"The veil is going to be banned, because these idiots blew it. You kill a police person in a western country and you can kiss your butt goodbye."

Well, actually, if you kill a police officer in a Western country, the French make you an honorary citizen and name a street after you.

Luckily, they had the foresight to name that other street Rue Mumia, not Rue Jamal, thus avoiding confusion when they honor this fellow with a Rue Jama.

Posted by: CJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 12:20 AM

When Jack Straw went public about his objection to veils 3 months ago after 20 years as an MP for a strongly muslim area I thought there had to be a reason.

1. This incident happened a year ago.
2. They must have known about it for months.
3. It comes out at Christmas when nobody in Britain cares about anything but Christmas.

Conclusion - They covered themselves with Straws statement first and released the news in the run up to Christmas when it would have the least impact.

Posted by: Fred [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 4:42 AM

I wish the US and other predominately Christian (for now) countries would WAKE UP!! Religious freedom is one of the rights that we fight to keep BUT, if your "freedom" - (translate = your belief system requires you to cover yourself) interferes with my "freedom" - (translate = my security), then it must be forbidden. If someone feels so strongly about covering themselves, we should make it easier for them to reach the conclusion that they would be more comfortable in an Islamic country.

Posted by: sheiknbake4pork [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 9:35 AM

People of the Board....

I used to answer Naseem but I think I will refrain from now own. The stuff he/she says is just a put-on. It's just weird and designed to get a reaction out of the board. If you read it, it reads like satire. I think it may be a group of college kids just screwing around.

Posted by: citycat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 11:49 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

The niqab is a public safety hazard and must be banned. Religious freedom does not supercede public safety. It's as simple as that.

Here in the "aweful" USA, we don't allow drivers license photos, passport photos and the like without the face showing and we don't allow people through security without showing their mug either.

Posted by: citycat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 11:58 AM

Look at Melanie Phillips Diary for today 21 Dec "Drawing a veil over common sense"

The background to this guy, how his family got into Britain and what they did is unbelievable!

Posted by: Fred [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 2:58 PM

citycat - I still gotta' love Naseem, if only for"slutty womens".

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 5:46 PM

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