Man this is an understatement...lol

Without any effective threat of repercussions, which this *ahem* resolution is NOT, it's all just more words from pointless talking heads at Useless Numbnuts, Inc. (UN).

Posted by: jcom972 at December 23, 2006 8:13 PM

No iPods for iBombers.

Sheesh. Our Islamophobia knows no bounds. We are heinous bigots.

Posted by: jsla at December 23, 2006 8:24 PM

When the UN speaks, nobody listens. And for good reason.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 23, 2006 8:31 PM

US_infidel,

Unfortuantely, true...one bad habit we have here is we don't commit until we get bit on the ass.
Then the same morons who snivelled & dragged their feet about doing something before it blows up in our faces are the first people who scream about why nobody did anything to prevent it and want to blame someone, usually targeting someone politically convenient to their own taste (both left and right are equaly notorious for it).

Since 9/11 wore off to many here, they will need yet another wake-up call to get their short-sighted lazy narcissistic asses in gear.

Hence the old adage (modernized):
"You can lead a horse to water, and you can drown the SOB in it, but you cannot make them drink."
I'm just serene enough to accept the unchangeable,
strong enough to change what CAN be,
but above all, the wisdom to know the difference.
That leaves only one thing...

Semper Vigilans
Semper Paratus

Posted by: jcom972 at December 23, 2006 8:42 PM

Vladimir: Mahmoud? Vlad here. I called to ask you if you have everything you need.

Mahmoud: Why yes, Vlad, that last shipment put us in good shape. Why do you ask?

Vladimir: Well, the Security Council is voting on those silly sanctions today and I'd like to throw a bone to the Americans and shut them up, at least for a while.

Mahmoud: I understand. Don't worry about it. Of course I'll have to issue the usual statements of defiance.

Vladimir: I'd be disappointed if you didn't. It's good talking to you.

Mahmoud: Same here, and if you talk to Bashar, tell him I said "Hi".

Posted by: USBeast at December 23, 2006 9:02 PM

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

Posted by: storagemanager at December 23, 2006 9:06 PM

I guess millions of Americans will have to die in a nuclear terrorist attack before the heartless, short-sighted, greedy scumbags sitting in Washington start taking Islam more seriously.

Posted by: US_infidel

But surely Washington would be the prime target of the terrorists. I can see it now: in the Texas independence it was "remember the Alamo"; in the Soanish-American war "remember the Maine"; in WW2 "remember Pearl Harbor"' and coming soon, in WW4 "remember the Short-Sighted Scumbags".

Posted by: ebonystone at December 23, 2006 9:08 PM

More wasted breath from the UN . Ahmadinejerk went there and lied through his teeth and did a Full 180 once he got back home. The Islamic world holds the UN up as the example of how weak and innefectual we are. Where did the West lose it's balls? and has the UN EVER done what it was designed to do?

Stop Tyrants BEFORE they kill Millions and throw the world into world war.

Good job UN you weak minded innefectual Idiots!

That institution has to be dismantled. for all our sake.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 23, 2006 9:10 PM

WW4 began before 9-11, and shortly after 9-11 you have the "blame US crowd" and PC traitors at the edge to prevent any type of military action. iraq should of been a steeping stone onto iran but military is being hemmed in by the PC crowd.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at December 23, 2006 9:12 PM

WW4 began before 9-11, and shortly after 9-11 you have the "blame US crowd" and PC traitors at the edge to prevent any type of military action. iraq should of been a steeping stone onto iran but military is being hemmed in by the PC crowd.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

=------------------------------------------------

The Biggest mistake the Bush admin made was not telling people the greater truth about Islam. They should have painted a much broader picture and made it esplicitely clear as to why these notions need to be dealt with. there should have been a much larger Propaganda campaign to expose all the things about Islam that we here understand. they failed in that respect . how many people in the West really understand this threat appropriately?

Not many!

The PR campaign against Islamists needs to be ramped up immensely. the Jihadi's and Muhammadites are doing a far better job of it. they have more people in the West having compassion for them than they do and should for their own way of life and People. how sick is that?

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 23, 2006 9:25 PM

Essentially we have been at war with Iran since the hostage crisis under Dhimmi Carter. We are coming full circle to the last crisis and this will end the regime or else the region and possibly the world will face nuclear war in the not very distant future.

This regime is not rational and it is currently led by a psychotic. (It and Syria are also a pipeline of much trouble in Iraq.) The key to dealing with this crisis is in Moscow. Just as Stalin attempted to use Hitler to get goodies from the West, Putin seeks to use the Iranian wackos for the same purpose. (There are many things the Russians want: deals for their oil, more influence in Ukraine, a free hand with many of the former members of the USSR etc.) We must make a good deal with Putin and Russia and get rid of this menace in Iran.

The Russian Empire vanished after the collapse of the USSR. Russia's borders returned to those of roughly 1600 in a few years. Putin has called this a "geopolitical disaster". It was a disaster for Russia. Putin is using Iran as a wedge to gain back some of the geopolitical pieces of the Russian Empire puzzle. It's a dangerous game he's playing, it could backfire (as it backfired for Stalin "using" Hitler).

Putin is not crazy. He's an icy SOB who will kill only for practical reasons. He's a Veto Corleone type. It's business-strictly business with him. He'll order a hit if he has to, but generally he would prefer other means to achieve his objectives because having to kill his enemies is not generally good for business. It's bad public relations.

The people running Iran are crazy, the Psychotic is the president of Iran. We have to make a deal with Putin. We have to stop thumping our democracy-koran in Putin's face and Russia's face and make a deal.

Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 9:28 PM

BTW, I'm very distrustful of these so-called elections in Iran that show opposition to the Psychotic. I think it's a scam to make us think that we should bide our time. The Psychotic is clever. We have to make a deal with Veto Corleone (Putin) and get rid of this menace in Iran.

Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 9:44 PM

"This regime is not rational and it is currently led by a psychotic."

Frank,

That sentence can be applied to our own government. Isn't one definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time?

-- Working through the UN - Oil-For-Food It was supposed to allay the suffering of the Iraqi people and prevent Saddam from building his forces up. Instead, it was a great way to funnel money to contractors in Russia, France and China while the remaining permanent SC members, the US and Britain, maintained the no-fly zones. Now we're trusting them to maintain sanctions on Iran? What's next - stopping all nuclear sales between North Korean and its customers?

--- Saying that Islam is a religion of peace and expecting the Saudis to be kind

--- Trusting Putin, a man we can "work with"

Five years after 9/11, our government is insane and is being run by a neurotic, if not a psychotic. What DOES he see when he looks in Putin's eyes?

Posted by: PMK at December 23, 2006 9:47 PM

PMK-

I think there is a great deal of truth in what you say. We are delusional re our "make benefit great democracy project for world". I think it's time to be realistic re Iraq and Iran and talk to Putin and end our democracy delusions. The sanctions game is utter nonsense.

I don't think Bush is psychotic. I think he did not understand the belief-system as a factor that would ruin the "make benefit great democracy project for world". The entire establishment was clueless. It's not just the president.

Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 10:00 PM

I guess that should be "Make Benifit Glorious Democracy in Iraq". The "make benifit" car needs a tune-up.

Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 10:05 PM

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Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 10:08 PM

PMK-

I don't think we should trust Putin. He's a Veto Corleone type, very shifty. However, I think if we are going to get rid of this menace in Iran and get away from this Wacko region, we have to come to an understanding with Veto. We also have to let go of the "Make Benefit Glorious Democracy Project In World". It's a delusion, as crazy as the Sharia Project.

Posted by: Frank at December 23, 2006 10:25 PM

Oh, Democracy will work if you lower their population down to about 300 million.....got any ideas ?

Posted by: Jeff at December 23, 2006 11:15 PM

It may in the West’s strategic interest to have diplomacy fail in Iran. The biggest threat would be to Israel, but I take them at their word when they say ‘never again’.

An explosion in an American or European city would be a local disaster. But the truth is that 15 kilotons really isn’t that big. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were doing just fine a few years after the fact. If we are forced to preempt militarily, Iran has announced its intent to deploy 10,000 suicide bombers throughout the west.

CAIR's job description would become more complicated in either case. I argue that a soft landing in Iran would be bad for our team. Keep talking Ahmedinejad.

Posted by: limes at December 23, 2006 11:19 PM

It may in the West’s strategic interest to have diplomacy fail in Iran. The biggest threat would be to Israel, but I take them at their word when they say ‘never again’.

An explosion in an American or European city would be a local disaster. But the truth is that 15 kilotons really isn’t that big. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were doing just fine a few years after the fact. If we are forced to preempt militarily, Iran has announced its intent to deploy 10,000 suicide bombers throughout the west.

CAIR's job description would become more complicated in either case. I argue that a soft landing in Iran would be bad for our team. Keep talking Ahmedinejad.

Posted by: limes at December 23, 2006 11:19 PM

It may in the West’s strategic interest to have diplomacy fail in Iran. The biggest threat would be to Israel, but I take them at their word when they say ‘never again’.

An explosion in an American or European city would be a local disaster. But the truth is that 15 kilotons really isn’t that big. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were doing just fine a few years after the fact. If we are forced to preempt militarily, Iran has announced its intent to deploy 10,000 suicide bombers throughout the west.

CAIR's job description would become more complicated in either case. I argue that a soft landing in Iran would be bad for our team. Keep talking Ahmedinejad.

Posted by: limes at December 23, 2006 11:19 PM

sorry about that...

Posted by: limes at December 23, 2006 11:20 PM

Islam is the most Primitive Creed in the World. Our Failure is to try to reason with it in the terms and common Humanity that we use with CIVILISED peoples. That will NOT work with Islam, They are 1400 years behind us and Counting. the only thing that they back down to is the same thing Muhammed backed down to. Crushing opposition and Absolute overwhelming Force. anything else is a sign of weakness. They are Morally weak. When MO was confronted superior opposition he behaved , when he was in a Position of Superiority he did horrible things. such is the same with Islam Today.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 23, 2006 11:26 PM

Mother Ecclesiastica-

I think you are seeing truth re Putin and Russia. I read him as a cold Vito Corleone type. However, I think he will look to the interests of Russia and it makes sense to deal with him because of his feelings of affection for Russian culture. He's using Iran (it's a dangerous game). However, he is the kind of man who will look at islam and feel contempt for its unpoetic nature. I'm sure he thinks it's ugly. He looks at it with a cold eye.

Russia lost its empire (built over a period of 400 years) practically overnight with the collapse of the USSR. Russia's borders were pushed back to 1600. Putin said it was "a geopolitical disaster". It was that for Russia. There are many things Putin wishes to regain for Russia and I think we should be more flexible on those matters.

A nuclear armed Iran is not in Russian interests. I think we should be less preachy re "democracy" and do what we can to help the Russians and Putin in an array of matters (technology, buying Russian oil, etc.). It's business. He will throw Iran and the Psychotic off a cliff if he gets what he wants from us. I think we should look to Moscow more for solutions in the Mideast and let up with the "democracy" crap and the UN.

I don't claim to be a foreign policy expert, but I think my instincts are sound on this matter. We need a more realistic foreign policy with Russia.

Posted by: Frank at December 24, 2006 12:03 AM

Mother E-

I'm not saying we should in any way approach this with sentiment or with trust. I hardly think that. It's a business deal. However, Russia is a natural ally here as Russia was against Hitler. Churchill was realistic in the 1930's re Russia and we should be similarly realistic now.

Posted by: Frank at December 24, 2006 12:20 AM

I no longer take the U.N. seriously, and neither should any of you. It is wasted attention and frustration. It's a cheering club for all of the world's worst regimes. It has been a dead body ever since the so-called Non Aligned Movement took hold in its chambers and went on an anti-Israel jerimiad that is still going strong.

This is merely a formality which has the advantage of only flushing out the loyalties and intentions of the various players involved.

I find it repugnant that this odiferous body still is an occupant of New York City.

Posted by: FredIsinglass at December 24, 2006 1:03 AM

The UN Announces more Sanctions:
(New York) The UN has called for sanctions against the Planet Earth for global warming. "If climate change still refuses to stop, more debate will be scheduled", threatened the Secretary General.

Posted by: Xero G at December 24, 2006 2:06 AM

Blaming the UN or blaming Russia, etc. is a little simple minded. This is a failure of leadership on the part of the US Administration. The basic fact is that no one wants a nuclear Iran-not Russia, not Europe, not China. Unfortunately, Bush has severely damaged US's prestige and credibility with his lies about Iraq so now nobody trusts him anymore and they wont cooperate. Also, with our troops bogged down in Iraq there is no military option available. Let's hope that the new Administration can unite the great powers against Iran.

Posted by: george_rem at December 24, 2006 2:08 AM

I know its Christmas, but a little joke is in order?

A little joke for you:

What happens when a fly falls into a coffee cup?

The Englishman throws away the cup of coffee and walks away.

The American takes out the fly and drinks the coffee.

The Chinese eats the fly and throws away the coffee.

The Japanese drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra.

The Israeli sells the coffee to the American, the fly to the Chinese, and buys himself a new cup of coffee.

The Palestinian blames the Israeli for the violent act of putting the fly in his coffee, asks the UN for aid, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Englishman, the American, the Chinese, the Japanese are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he was too aggressive.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at December 24, 2006 2:10 AM

the UN since 1973, and OPEC grabbed power, and all that lovely protection money, a.k.a.jizha from oil and the air head, a.k.a. Arab nations that are basically seventh century tribal cultures got rich and thought they could dictate terms to the dar al harb and Europe went along with this in hopes. cheep oil and France's pro-Arab the UN has become more of a Muslim bully pulpit than body dedicated to world peace. Even Canada that the end of the second world war was the third-largest allied power, and one of the founding members is given up on the UN and most part

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at December 24, 2006 4:04 AM

It is absolutely true that the comparison with wet noodles is the only right one to make, but in a historical perspective this is important. Iran can now only disobey the UN and so the dhimmi liberals have less ground to “criticize” Israel when they blow up some Iranian nuke reactors.

Posted by: DrWolffenstein at December 24, 2006 4:33 AM

I believe that the sanctions are a major step. If we had not defeated Russian attempts at limiting the Islamic hold on Afghanistan, then I believe that they (The Russians) would not be so quick to impede our progress. With that in mind, we also did not need ten years to do it. We both seek the same means, yet hold animosity for the one that achieves it. Plus the sanctions on Iran are the best that the US of A can do at this point. If any of you other spineless nay sayers of American fortitude have a vested interest, I propose you stand up and quit your belly aching! America is not the world's police. Let us see some backbone from the rest of this godforsaken world.

Posted by: taowarrior at December 24, 2006 6:54 AM

America should, wah wah wah. UN should, wah wah wah, Israel should, wah wah wah. How about you do something besides attacking the countries that are doing something. When I look at Irag and Afghanistan, I see Marines gentlemen.

Posted by: taowarrior at December 24, 2006 7:08 AM

!!!NOT THE WET NOODLE!!!

Posted by: Shy Guy at December 24, 2006 7:23 AM

with this new UN resolution does it mean that russia will stop helping iran in making its nuclear power plant ?

Posted by: Greek Gurl at December 24, 2006 8:59 AM

This reminds me of an episode of the TV show in which a young British nanny comes to the rescue of an American family. The nanny has told the parents how to discipline their unruly children and has left. One child behaves badly and, instead of hauling him over to the "naughty seat" (the stairs) and making him sit there, the father says in a high-pitched, sissified voice, "I urge you to sit on the naughty seat". Of course, the defiant child refuses and the father cowers.

The UN: "We urge you not to help Iran."

Iran and its helpers: "Nah nah nah nah boo boo."

Posted by: Josephine at December 24, 2006 10:12 AM