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If CAIR et al get their way, it will. Of course, for many liberal and conservative media outlets, we are already there. "A question for 2007," by the ever-perceptive Diana West:
...Our elites seem not to have the slightest clue how devastating such a change, which comes under the rubric of Islamization, would be to our Judeo-Christian-rooted civilization. Indeed, it is increasingly clear that they don't know the difference between "an Islamic order" and Judeo-Christian-rooted civilization — or even that there is a difference.There are exceptions. In November, there was Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida Republican, who stood up for constituents' free speech under CAIR pressure. Now Rep. Virgil Goode, Virginia Republican, has become both the lone standard-bearer of free speech about Islam and the favorite whipping boy of the PC elites. In a letter to constituents about the decision of Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, Minnesota Democrat, to use a Koran at his swearing-in ceremony, Mr. Goode expressed what I take to be his recognition that the laws of Islam — which prohibit religious freedom, freedom of speech and conscience, equality before the law and women's rights — do not augment but rather contravene the founding principles of the United States.
He also wrote: "I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America." It's difficult to argue with Mr. Goode's logic. Indeed, the test case of the age — Europe — demonstrates that Islamic immigration brings Islamic law, which is demonstrably at odds with American values and beliefs. Forgoing debate, however, Mr. Goode's critics have resorted to name-calling and platitudes about "tolerance," failing utterly to notice the gross intolerance of the Islamic tradition. Worst of all, their tactics seem designed to shut up Mr. Goode, and anyone else who might follow his bold example. Will they?
It's the question of 2007.
Posted by Robert at December 29, 2006 1:12 PM
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CAIR is a Pharisee organization that says one thing in public and another in private. They are more loathsome than the violent Jihadists. We must at least admire the violent jihadists for their directness, their candor. They act according to nature. The CAIR-pharisees pretend they are above nature and engage in deception and self-deception. (I'll bet Ibrahim Hooper is a secret Jew hater. He would lie in public about that too. I'm certain this deceptive clown runs away from somebody like Robert-who sees right through him.)
CAIR-Pharisee is organized hypocrisy-deception. It's a crawl-between toes organization. They are deceivers. CAIR is what it is.
Posted by: Frank
at December 29, 2006 1:30 PM
that islamic law...at odds with American values and beliefs is an euphemism.
Islamic law is sheer tyranny. All freedom and democracy loving people of the earth should fight tooth and nail against its imposition on the soil of a democracy.
Posted by: rocky
at December 29, 2006 1:30 PM
NOT AT JIHAD WATCH!!!!!!!
And not while I am still around.
Posted by: pythagoras
at December 29, 2006 1:40 PM
Frog...pot...boiling water...
Posted by: Carolyn2
at December 29, 2006 1:41 PM
I am predicting, or at least hoping, for a tough year for the bastards over at CAIR in 2007. Ellison + CAIR = disastrous PR results somewhere down the line.
I also think the anti-Islamist movement is growing every day in the US, not diminishing. We have our trusty Islamists to thank for that, who just can not help themselves in their words and actions. Their deception tactic grows more superficial with each passing moment.
CAIR will try to force our hand very soon, anticipating a shoulder to cry on from a Pelosi driven Congress. They will most assuredly over-step. Hoopefully, enough eyes and ears will be open and tuned in when it happens.
Posted by: awake
at December 29, 2006 1:43 PM
If things keep going this way, we'll all be reprising the Irish monks with a slight change...a furore arabum libera nos Domine.
Posted by: Hubert the Friar
at December 29, 2006 1:49 PM
The CAIR trolls who feverishly keep their stooges watching what's being said on this site had better understand that there will be no "shutting up" about Islam, and that what they want to keep from the public will continue to be fed...to the public.
CAIR is nothing but an unwelcome intruder, and one day, they will be history.
Until then, we will continue to inform everyone what they, their agenda, and the whacked belief system they adhere to are all about. CAIR falls in the same category as acne, infected wisdom teeth, ear aches, and ingrown toenails....Bothersome, but extractable.
Posted by: DCWatson
at December 29, 2006 1:50 PM
There will be a push to pass "hate crime" legislation on the Hill. As such laws always do, it will serve to stifle free expression that reflects negatively on the protected class or classes such legislation covers.
Rep. Carl Levin D-MI and Sen. Nancy D-CA have already indicated that they'll reintroduced the proposed criminal legislation proscribing "religious profiling" (i.e., profiling for Moslems). Look for Rep. Keith Ellison D-MN to be a named co-sponsor on this bill.
I also look for the introduction of a separate "hate crime" law proscribing religious intolerance (i.e., criticizing Islam) during this legislative session.
It'll be a big day when this undemocratic crap rolls up to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at December 29, 2006 1:57 PM
Here is a truth that is not very popular.
The tree falls the way it is leaning.
Test the winds and see which way the wind is blowing and that will tell you were we may fall. + - 3%
Posted by: havekoranwilltravel
at December 29, 2006 2:05 PM
QUOTE (from article):
"Indeed, it is increasingly clear that they don't know the difference between "an Islamic order" and Judeo-Christian-rooted civilization — or even that there is a difference."
That's so true its sad.
For me Im not going to stop yelling the truth about Islam from the rooftops. Robert Spencer and other likeminded individuals need to be promoted. This is the beginning of long hard road for our civilization. Dont let the beheading pedophillia prophet moon god followers win.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at December 29, 2006 2:09 PM
Why view 2007 as a problem, because the reality of Islam is collapsing upon itself. It has gained power and now the Islamocommunists are at each other from Gaza to Iraq in Sunni and Shia power wars. Islam only works under one dictator and now ever imam wants to be the Mahdi.
As far as western politicians in not understanding the condo leaders of the mideast are not the same as the zealots, it doesn't matter because the people from France to American know the ilk of CAIR are no different than any other malevolent sideshow.
I see this as good as PC will depart more and more as reasonable people start expressing the reality that murderers are murderers and hucksters are hucksters.
God bless America.....the real God which Islamic scholars have never been inspired by Him to ever understand the dynamics of Him as His Truth will expose the liars in 2007 darkness the Light of Truth will shine even brighter.
at December 29, 2006 2:09 PM
Surely we can tolerate some small limitations on freedom of speech in order to serve the cause of peace. Hateful insults and disparaging remarks about Islam and its Prophet Mohammed serve only to humiliate and offend our Muslim brothers and sisters. When the islamophobes responsible for such anti-Islamic activities are jailed or rendered bankrupt in civil proceedings, American Muslims will no doubt feel more welcome in this country and will refrain from violence.
I have no doubt whatsoever that "hate speech" laws will be enacted. For one thing, nobody will fight against them, and most liberals will actively support them. As for the President and the Supreme Court acting as a final barrier, I have one word for you: McCain-Feingold.
at December 29, 2006 2:10 PM
"Islam teaches first-degree murder."
There!!!
I can post it. I don't have to speak it. And I don't have to "shut up" either. (Despite the way many of you might feel about my posts).
The keypad may well prove mightier than the useful-idiot 'dhimmi' politican in Washington!!
As long as the America and the rest of the world knows that Islam teaches first-degree murder, we should come out of this okay!
at December 29, 2006 2:14 PM
I keep remembering planes crashing into two towers and countless beheadings and riots (basically for nothing). The truth is difficult to ignore.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at December 29, 2006 2:14 PM
Virgil Goode = Wave of the Future.
Take that you parasitic newcomers. Liberal and Conservative media outlets, the incoming lame duck congress all try to convince us that the opposite of what we see is the truth. It’s a mad scramble, a dash to the jihadists rescue. Meanwhile in the real world, the people can see the truth for themselves. If what we are dealing with wasn’t so serious, I would be splitting my sides with laughter right now. Bring on 2007.
at December 29, 2006 2:15 PM
Pythogoras right on brother the truth shall not
be silenced.
It teaches pedophillia is okay too... about 50% of 9 year old little girls (little kids for God's sake) were found by coalition troops to be MARRIED --hmm I wonder what "perfect example of a man" gave that idea his blessing so that it is perpetuated even to this day.
http://www.islamcomicbook.com/
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at December 29, 2006 2:20 PM
Ignorance has always been the best ally of tyrants, including the tyrany of Islam. But when high public officials like Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy and others, both Democrat and Republican, defend Islam as a peaceful religion, it is no longer ignorance, it's a lie. These people have to much information at their finger tips not to know the truth about Islam, but the truth does not serve them or their parties. It is the lie that best best serves their political ambitions. It is the lie that delivers a block of votes to their campaigns, and keeps them in power. And it is the lie that jepordizes the security of this country and its Western values and traditions.
But like so many self-serving politicians in this country, the good of our civilization will always be secondary to their lust for power and prestige.
So long as we keep rewarding the Pelosis and Kennedys for the lies they sow, and condemning the Goodes for telling the truth, we can count on paying the piper someday, and the next generation of Americans will reap the whirl-wind. We have Europe as a model of what that generation will inherit.
at December 29, 2006 2:21 PM
"(I'll bet Ibrahim Hooper is a secret Jew hater. He would lie in public about that too. I'm certain this deceptive clown runs away from somebody like Robert-who sees right through him.)"
i was naive once and thought that hatred for the Jews by muslims did not exist...well many american muslims that i have known over time will start to tell you how they really feel about Jews...
at December 29, 2006 2:21 PM
If anybody is "colossally stupid" its the willfully obtuse folks at the WASHINGTON POST. The even fail to recognize that Islam is NOT a race but a philosophy unlike any other except Nazism. Washington Post staff: THATS NOT AN INSULT --DO SOME RESEARCH --FIND OUT WHY WE BELIEVE THIS!
Washington Post. Happy Idiots who who will be ducking under tables in the next islamic attack saying "problem? what problem?"
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at December 29, 2006 2:29 PM
In the future, three-quarters of the state legislatures will ratify an amendment to the United States Constitution banning all adherents, practices and forms of Islam based on the Qur'an.
at December 29, 2006 2:32 PM
AWAKE stated above:
"I am predicting, or at least hoping, for a tough year for the bastards over at CAIR in 2007."
. . .Oh,well, I don't think CAIR is going to enjoy Stuck MoJo's remix of "OPEN SEASON" (just posted at youtube) very much at all. Gotta give it to these boys - they bring a powerful message across with this song.
HAPPY NEW YEAR CAIR!
at December 29, 2006 2:32 PM
THE ALLIES SHALL WIN:
"For me Im not going to stop yelling the truth about Islam from the rooftops. Robert Spencer and other likeminded individuals need to be promoted."
Fine. Many people, including prominently Robert Spencer, do that.
We know the danger.
What are you proposing we should do about it?
The very same people who loudly warn us about Islam suddenly become silent about Islam immigration to the West, the most immediate danger we face.
Posted by: mik_infidel
at December 29, 2006 2:50 PM
Malinois:
"In the future, three-quarters of the state legislatures will ratify an amendment to the United States Constitution banning all adherents, practices and forms of Islam based on the Qur'an."
Current Muslim immigration to the USA is at the highest levels ever (thank you Jorge Bush).
Muslims are the highest breeders in the US, exceeding those of welfare underclass.
If current trends continue - and why not? elites are happy with them - in the future some state legistlatures, starting with Michigan, will mandate Sharia law.
As Steyn says, numbers are the destiny.
And what are you going to do about numbers?
Posted by: mik_infidel
at December 29, 2006 2:56 PM
The year of the Shia.........“Those who obstinately refuse to accept religion will have the sword of the 12th imam will decisively come down on their neck”
Iran Press News: One of the many regime-run news agencies Ayandeh’yeh Roshan reported:
Moussa Salemi, the Friday prayer leader of Asadabad, in an interview with the news agency said: “By the grace of God, the administration of Mr. Ahmadinejad, has been inspired by and received revelations from the command of 12th Imam. The closer we get to “the end of days”, the closer we get to hope. Just as God almighty has promised, soon poverty, discrimination and oppression of people and the real justice will spread on earth. The administration of Mr. Ahmadinejad has also brought these good tiding to people and we are trying to solve those problems; that way we can secure the axis of justice. This is what the 12th Imam wants.
http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/018917.html
Posted by: storagemanager
at December 29, 2006 3:05 PM
Two chances , one is a snowball in Hells.
Posted by: aladdinsane57
at December 29, 2006 3:06 PM
"As Steyn says, numbers are the destiny.
And what are you going to do about numbers?"
Posted by: mik_infidel at December 29, 2006 02:56 PM
Change them. The US is the last defense. Once a European country falls into an Islamic Republic, which will surely happen well before the US will fall, people will awaken.
Our own weakness and self-loathing at the moment is providing our enemies with a winning position in this battle, but the war is far from over.
There is no future for Islam in America. Eventually, there will be no future for Islamists here either. Do you really think a bunch of people standing around a desert, wearing sandals and waving a book can topple the US?
Posted by: awake
at December 29, 2006 3:08 PM
mandate Sharia law, mik_infidel
Incredible, have you ever researched American law? Can you explain to me how they are going to do that? You know the little things we call the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? So, if a community in America wants to revert to slavery, it’s all good as long as they legislate it?
at December 29, 2006 3:11 PM
I have been lurking reading the comments on this website for quite some time. I think we need to get serious if we not wish this century to be the century where our children have to deal with the fallout of the spread of Islam.
As far as I am concerned, the 1900's had to deal with the totalitarian systems of thought called fascism and communism. That has been won. Nobody seriously beleives in them anymore.
The 2000's will have the problem of Islam to deal with. And to my mind the battle is mostly with thought-forms and ideas. Becaus without a doubt, having read the Quran and seen quotations from various Hadiths and the Sira, Islam is totalitarian. It brooks no rivals. And it seeks to dominate the earth where non-Muslims and controlled by Muslims.
But first, there is a bigger problem in the West. And that is in most Western governments and instituations (e.g. judiciary), liberal thought is the guiding thought-form. Frequently it goes hand-in-hand with political correctness. And frequently it is not democratic but paternal (witness the European political elite trying to overcome the voters of France and Holland who said "no" to the constition. Naturally the European political elite "know" best - which I find avuncular and arrogant). I think also the USA to some extent is better off than Europe over this matter.
And in the case of Islam versus the liberal establishment, Islam has and will - run rings round it. It will make use of it. The liberal elite will constantly seek to appease Islam just like Chamberlain versus Hitler. It has invented that propaganda word "Islamophobia" and it trying to persuade liberal Governments to pass anti-hate laws and so stifle debate on Islam.
I have read Robert's books, Oriana's books and others (Alan Deschowitz's : The case for Israel), Lawrence Auster's papers, Daniel Pipes, Walid Phares, Bat Yeor's books.
So to my mind, we need to get more political.
We need to educate all non-Muslims and in particular the liberal establishment.
We need to convince them the danger is real.
From all that I see, I don't beleive that President Bush or Tony Blair are aware of the danger. Their thinking is that there is a "decent Islam" when in fact, history, to my mind, teaches that Islam goes through periods of dormancy. Dormancy should not be mistaken for decency.
I have had and still do have Muslims as friends. On a personal level, I have no problem with them as human beings. I have cooked halal food. What I object to is the thought-forms that Islam teaches. And while they believe that, they are a danger to myself and my family and my nation. Even if they are benign, who is to say that their sons or their sons sons will be benign?
I watch most things that go on this planet very carefully. I read what goes on in countries far from my own. And I am aware of what the world is likely to be like in the year 2020. On a daily basis I watch what goes on HIV/AIDS world (and Hepatitis), read all the UN reports on HIV/AIDS, follow what goes on in demographic trends, notice what Ultrasound has done in India & China hospitals, the assassination of Theo Van Gogh in Holland.
By the year 2020, Russia is likely to have a significant Muslim population. It could be 40%.
Part of that is to do with fact that the average Russian man lives no longer that 59 years (due to poor health, alcoholism, drug injection). Putin's State-of-the-Nation address commented that year-on-year they are losing 3/4 million people. And part of it is to do with the low birth rate in Russia (as it is in much of Western Europe - except France). Russia is likely to decrease from 149 million to below 100 million in the next 20 years. Murray Feshbach at Georgetown University, Washington DC has been watching Russian demographics for decades.
Other European countries like Germany are likely to shrink in population from 80 million to 60 million (while France grows from 60 million to 8 million). Britain will increase slightly - mostly because of loss of control of the borders.
But in all of this, with the indigenous population in Europe shrinking due to people having no more than 2 children, frequently just 1 - the big thing will be the Muslim population will grow as they have larger families. Both France and Germany are expected to have large significant %'s of Muslims (20%? 30%?).
I basically go along with Lawrence Auster's analysis :
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I subscribe to the now tiny but, I believe, some-day-to-be prevalent Separationist School of Western-Islamic Relations. We separationists affirm the following:
Islam is a mortal threat to our civilization.
But we cannot destroy Islam.
Nor can we democratize Islam.
Nor can we assimilate Islam.
Therefore the only way to make ourselves safe from Islam is to separate ourselves from Islam.
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So we need to get political. In my mind, "The Truth about Muhammad" and "The politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" needs to go to
President Bush & family
All of President Bush staff particularly Dr Rice
All Senators
Senators wives if the Senator is male
All Governors
Governors wives if the Senator is male
Congressman
Political Thinktanks in USA (Wonk institutions)
Tony Blair
David Cameron (leader of Tory party)
Trevor Phillips (Commission for Equality and Human Rights in Britain -very influential)
Angela Merkel (Chancellor of Germany)
Nicolas Sarkozy (possible President of France)
Segolene Royale (possible President of France)
Michelle Aliot-Marie (possible President of France, current Defence Minister)
I also think everyone needs to read
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The Search for Moderate Islam: Part 1 - Does it Exist?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=16798
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=16799
The Search for Moderate Islam: Part 2 - If it doesn't exist, then what?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=16801
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Printable.asp?ID=16802
A reply to Lawrence Auster by Daniel Pipes (for above 2 articles)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16794
A reply to Daniel Pipes reply by Lawrence Auster
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/003036.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That will do for starters
Posted by: IslamWatcher
at December 29, 2006 3:18 PM
I will continue to fight Muslims in 2007 with all the strength left in my body.
Danger, Danger Health Risk announced in UK, latest terrorist newsflash
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006600358,00.html
I raise a glass of Malt Whisky to fellow supporters against Jihad tyranny , gobal islamification , manipulation of the press through Racist agendas, (when Islam is n't even a race), left wing Toadies and PC Multiculturalists.
I will never submit.
Posted by: raz
at December 29, 2006 3:20 PM
Ban all muslim immigration NOW!
The death cult of pislam has declared war on the West, our Religions, our values, the US Constitution and you!
islamists would happily kill you and your children as the death cult openly mandates First Degree Murder (as well as lying, maiming, polygamy).
It is our duty as Americans to fight this threat until it is defeated.
Send Congressman Goode a letter of support. We need more leaders like him.
In the past there was a anti-communist movement called "McCarthyism". Perhaps a new anti-islam movement could be called "Goodism" or better yet, "The Goodeness Movement".
Isn’t it ironic that a movement to protect freedom from the threat of a satanic death cult might use the term "good".
It defines this battle for what it truly is: The final battle between Good and Evil…God vs. Satan.
No more mosques, mo more madrasses, and no more islam! It is a parasitic cult of evil that offers nothing of value to civilization.
Save The World by stopping islam!
Posted by: KillHankKill
at December 29, 2006 3:23 PM
In the not too distant future maybe we will hear people say, he’s one of the “Goode Guys” or, all it takes for evil to prevail is for Goode Guys to stand by and do nothing.
Posted by: tgusa
at December 29, 2006 3:37 PM
I wouldn’t worry much about laws stifling free speech. We have laws against speeding but you all do it, I do it and our children will do it. Liberals trick themselves into believing they can control us with “laws” but despite all attempts to crush the pro gun lobby, it still remains a powerful force. Other attempts to change us or our moral beliefs also fail. None of our changes in our long history are a result of “laws”. We changed slowly and adapted to what benefited the majority. Islam benefits no one.
Americans can not be controlled. Our differences are our real power and can not be hidden, ignored, combined, tweaked, modified or silenced.
Some will fall under the spell of Islam. We will lose the weak, the scared and the easily intimidated. The rest will stand, they are already standing both here at home and overseas. More will join them. Our military is the strongest most powerful force ever built by man. I don’t fear Islam. I fear Americas might going full throttle with no limitations. Now that is scary.
at December 29, 2006 3:45 PM
When organizations like hizballa and hamas are allowed to open offices across the street from Congress and operate freely for the sole purpose of pushing their foreign interests above those of natural American citizens; questions should be raised!
WHY should members of hamas and hizballa be allowed ANYWHRE near Congress in the first place?
WHY should these foreign terrorist organizations be given priveledged access to members of Congress over the access of natural Americans?
WHY are members of Congress who are supposed to be doing the business of the American people, so willing and quick to provide this access to foreign terrorists, when they won't even return phone calls to the citizens who they are SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT?
AMERICA IS DEAD!
WHY?
BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE USURPTED CONTROL BY LIEING ABOUT WHAT THEY REPRESENT AND WHOSE INTERESTS THEY INTEND TO SERVE!
at December 29, 2006 3:53 PM
Carolyn2
Don't trust anyone who attempts to boil frogs.
Posted by: Beagle
at December 29, 2006 4:04 PM
Ronin,
Yup, it's the individual American who will keep the Islamonazis at bay and not the politicians!
I'd hate to see an Islamonazi try to take on my little, "Annie Oakley" wife in a gun fight! Even I am a little bit scared of her! (and I own a .50 cal sniper rifle!) But, it keeps me and our marriage in check, since I know that she's crazy enough to use it on me if I get out of line! *grin* Imagine if an Islamonazi tried to slap her around! He'd be fending off his 72 virgins faster than he could say, "aloha Ackbar"
Cheers,
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog
at December 29, 2006 4:07 PM
After a big year for anti-Dhimmis during which a few opinion celebrities and even politicians took baby steps towards actually publicly stating the obvious, I look for '07 to be a year of retrenchment, a year to lay low and stay out of the whithering fire of CAIR, other Moslem advocacy groups, the government, and most of all the pro-Sharia media (i.e., all media except maybe the Washington Times).
The reason for this, of course, will be the 6th & 7th Pillars of Islam.
610 * 623 * 732 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
Pillars of Islam 6 – 10
6th PillarObservant Moslems must contribute to a pervasive fear among Infidels that criticizing Islam will entail personal ruination, injury or murder, and could well result in the same for the critic’s family, colleagues, neighbors and, if warranted, even their descendants until the humiliating stain the criticism placed on Islam is cancelled out, and it is guaranteed that no similar criticism will be leveled at Islam again.
7th PillarWherever feasible, observant Moslems must claim having been victimized for their belief in Islam, proclaim such discrimination to the Infidel public, invoke Infidel customs and laws as applicable , demand new customs and laws if none are applicable at the time the crime against Islam was committed, and aggressively push for redress so that all Moslems may enjoy the prerogative that results from such a complaint, whether original complaint was real, partially real, or false.
8th PillarMoslems must collect the Jizya from Infidels wherever and however possible, whether by the legal transfer of wealth through charity, seduction of Infidel women, or through Marxist entitlements, or by the illegal transfer of wealth through welfare fraud, forgery, confidence scams, dealing in contraband, or even the seizure of property as necessary to help protect Moslems from humiliation by Infidels and to advance the cause.
9th PillarAlthough observant Moslems should ingratiate themselves to Infidels wherever tactically necessary, but must not be truthful with Infidels where Islam can gain an upper hand through dissembling, obfuscation, TurnSpeak, and even outright lying, to include agreements and treaties with Infidels, which should be honored only so long as the local Jihad is still on temporary hold.
10th Pillar Infidel law, sometimes called civil law, may never be applied to Moslems, or at least not fairly applied, and where feasible Moslems must push for Sharia Law in parallel to civil law, and only then in order to be slowly expanded to cover more and more situations and subjects, so as to eventually crush the civil law and put Infidels and Moslems alike under Sharia and only Sharia.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at December 29, 2006 4:12 PM
Why we should shut ISLAM up:
Violent Jihad has accompanied Islam’s beginnings since AD 634. History shows its mayhem across North Africa, the Middle East, through India, Central Asia, pressing onwards to Jerusalem where Christian places of worship and visiting pilgrims were attacked in 1009, continuing to Spain in the mid 1100’s.
Over hundreds of years millions of Christians, the primary target of Islam, have been murdered and their holy places converted as demonstrated in the conquest of Constantinople in 1453, when the greatest and most glorious church in the world, Hagia Sophia, was ransacked, pillaged and taken over as a mosque, still standing today. In 1860, 12,000 Christians were killed in Lebanon.
In 1876, 14,700 Bulgarians were murdered. In 1877, 200,000 Armenian Christians were slaughtered and again in 1915, Turks butchered 1.5 million Armenian Christians. As recently as1922, the ancient city of Samaria with its population of 300,000 Christians was destroyed.
Muslims actively engaged in terrorist activity” and the extent of their vocal outrage was seen in a demonstration earlier this year in Trafalgar
Square when Muslims held up placards reading, “slay those who insult Islam”,
“behead those who insult Islam”, “exterminate those who slander Islam”, “massacre those who insult Islam” and “Freedom go to Hell”.
Freedom is the reason angry Muslims can publicly emit their hatred in Britain against those who value freedom, a western value NOT permitted in Muslim countries. Sadly Christians residing in those countries don’t have freedom to voice their anger against their oppressors. In The New Barbarians video (www.caryltv.com) an angry Muslim mob can be seen murdering their victim, throwing him out of a second storey building, butchering him to death, slicing open his body and displaying human entrails to the crazed throng.
(You'll know them by their fruit folks - THEY are what Islam produces)...
Barbaric threats continue: Abu Izzadeen, an Islamist cleric [and spiritual leader of the now banned Saved Sect] has stated: "In the UK no fighting takes place yet, but don't be fooled, the time will come to you brothers . .
. fighting is so close at hand...You prepare yourself now and when the hard time comes you are ready to defend yourself; you are ready to die for the sake of Allah." http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=london93006.htm
at December 29, 2006 4:23 PM
CAIR-
http://www.christisall.org/wp-content/images/wolf%20in%20sheep.jpg
Posted by: Frank
at December 29, 2006 4:25 PM
Hi Beagle,
Ummm boiled frog.
:)
at December 29, 2006 4:32 PM
Ibrahim "Mr. Deception" Hooper:
http://www.boonika.com/images/ynews/51.jpg
Posted by: Frank
at December 29, 2006 5:09 PM
What bothers me is that, if our Dhimmi government passes laws like this, the FBI will be busy trying to infiltrate message boards like this to see who we are and trying to track us done for disobeying the law instead of trying to find muslim terrorists. I'm sure the Dhimmi's in congress will see to it that tracking down anti-muslim folks is more important than thwarting terrorists, well until the next plane flys into the Capitol Building while congress is in session.
Posted by: schwaben
at December 29, 2006 5:33 PM
i don't think the problem is the immigration. i think it has more to do with a complacent citizenry. very few vote. most just complain about things, but never actually ever do anything about it. its like they don't have a stake in this society.
i think we should limit citizenship to people who have done public service, either as a civilian or in the military. we know THOSE folk have a stake in this society and culture.
Posted by: poornbroken
at December 29, 2006 5:37 PM
i think we should limit citizenship to people who have done public service, either as a civilian or in the military. we know THOSE folk have a stake in this society and culture.
Posted by: poornbroken
What do you consider to be public service? Some of our most dedicated "public servants", from judges to senators to presidents (past and current) to civic groups like the ACLU are busy destroying our society in the name of political correctness and winning the next election.
You stumbled onto the truth when you suggested that they were the only ones with a stake in this society and culture. They're taking it away from everyone else.
We can talk amongst ourselves about the danger Islam poses to our society, but we can't change immigration laws and we can't take unilateral action without ending up before a judge. We have rule of law and we respect it. We can't have too many children because we want to be responsible parents. So I guess that makes us losers. We won't go to the depths of those who would destroy us from the outside and there are too many well-meaning people on the inside who are destroying our society all on their own.
What do we do absent a revolution?
at December 29, 2006 6:07 PM
There should be a test similar to obtaining a Driver License before we are allowed to vote. Simple questions about our system and history. We could throw in some trick questions such as, do you think Martians are working with the guvment at Area 51?, to weed out the nuts. Too hard you say, can’t pass no matter how hard you try? Tough, this is important stuff we are dealing with not the laundry list. We should limit the voting pool to those who are not getting guvment assistance. Programs like Social Security that some of us pay for by working should be exempt. In the beginning it was only Landowners that had the vote but now any who qualify should be allowed, except jihadists of course.
Posted by: tgusa
at December 29, 2006 6:29 PM
That is why more then ever, websites like this one will be of great importance in 2007, in order to get the word out.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at December 29, 2006 6:48 PM
I will continue to fight Muslims in 2007 with all the strength left in my body.
Danger, Danger Health Risk announced in UK, latest terrorist newsflash
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006600358,00.html
Posted by: raz
Jeeezus!
no one is telling them to drink the fu*king stuff!
Where in the Koran does it say you can't wash your hands with alcohol-containing soap? Incidentally the words Al-Kuhul come from the Arabic and it is contained in its distilled form in many medicines, ointments and cosmetics throughout the Islamic world. I think these Bangladeshis are just being difficult and hoping for a reaction so they can wail "Islamaphobia" if they get stopped. Or maybe they just don't like soap! Sorry that would be rascist.
at December 29, 2006 6:56 PM
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
at December 29, 2006 7:19 PM
They may stifle the media and muffle some free speech but they can't stop the internet.
Think, about it: If it weren't for the internet, we'd know nothing of the happenings in Thailand or the Phillipines or wherever else Islam is threatening.
Obviously, this is bad news but we need to look down the road a bit and towards the future. Most news will be broadcast from the internet instead of tv, radio and newspapers. This could put a whole new spin on anti jihadists getting their story out there.
But yes, it is still bleak news.
Posted by: Sir Oinks Alot
at December 29, 2006 7:57 PM
"When the islamophobes responsible for such anti-Islamic activities are jailed or rendered bankrupt in civil proceedings"
Jeez, we're called islamophobes because we're speaking out? Because we resist and protest islam?
Where's free speech?
Because islamics don't like the truth we're saying? Because it hits home?
As someone on this site said:
"a phobia is an irrational fear."
However, what we speak of is very rational. It's NOT that we fear, but the we're aware - and awake.
and you say " anti-islamic activities" - oh, God, Yes! Anti-islamic because islamics are NOT allowed to protest in their own countries - so they come to the West to speak out against the West.
"or rendered bankrup in civil proceedings"- do you come here already with the mindset to sue? You think you're going to beat us Free People down?
Oh, go ahead! Go, ahead! You're not going to shut me up! Instead - everytime I'm threatened I will speak out more and louder.
Patrick Henry is a hero to me!
Vive the Bill of Rights!
(I don't even hv to say Amer Bill of Rights - there's only one in the entire world!)
Posted by: allat
at December 29, 2006 7:59 PM
allat,
I like your attitude!
http://library.thinkquest.org/11683/heroes.html
My favorite…John Paul Jones or Nathan Hale get the call, yes it’s a tie, in my book.
at December 29, 2006 8:12 PM
I keep hearing that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West.. Does anyone has any actual figures that I can read about to form my opinion`?
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy
at December 29, 2006 8:40 PM
hierophant,
The Koran is explicit, all encompassing, yes even the way you wipe your *** is foretold. Pathetic. Should we feel sorry for the fool that is instructed on how to wipe their ***? Perhaps. That day will come when they are no longer a threat and we feel we can.
at December 29, 2006 8:49 PM
A complete crock MusHuntCowboy. The fastest growing tiresome religion/ideology/political movement. http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm
Dont let them BS you, besides, how many marauding jihadists can you take care of?
at December 29, 2006 8:59 PM
Here is a link to a Congresswoman's thoughts regarding Goode's remarks....she's married to who?
http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IV0612-3199
at December 29, 2006 9:19 PM
You prepare yourself now and when the hard time comes you are ready to defend yourself; you are ready to die for the sake of Allah.
These people are complete morons. Apparently, they are unfamiliar with the definition the West uses for winning wars.
You don't win a war by dying for your country. You win a war by making the other son-of-a-bitch die for his.
- General George Patton
I'm at the point where I think their highest goal is dying in Jihad and my fondest wish is to help them reach that goal as soon as possible, so I can fly without worrying and live in a big city without worrying, either. My interests and theirs are, ironically, perfectly in synch. It is unfortunate that their zeal for the goal is based on a fantasy of what happens post mortem but that's not my problem. Now if only someone in our military would implement Patton's wisdom.
Posted by: venividivici
at December 29, 2006 9:22 PM
Carolyn2,
Am I missing something? Please correct me if I am wrong… there is no gambling allowed in islam, and since Nevada is built on gambling where does that leave her or more precisely her constituents? Do you see what I mean when I say over and over that there is no compromise with islam in America?
at December 29, 2006 9:34 PM
Dont let them BS you, besides, how many marauding jihadists can you take care of?
Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 29, 2006 08:59 PM
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Thanks tgusa...
Since there are no accurate figures available about the population of Muslims, it is actually a pile load of BS that they keep on claiming they are the fastest growing religion in the World. It is not even clear if they are meaning by numbers of the rate. Rate would be meaningless if they don't know the number of Muslims accurately.
Now it boils down to whose estimate that one would believe. Definitely not the exaggerated posted by the Islamic sites such as CAIR.
at December 29, 2006 9:46 PM
we need to stir the pot with more cartoons.. shows how stupid muslims are , and how violent they are as well.. make more cartoons, and paste them around the cities..
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at December 30, 2006 12:48 AM
Let's not. Shut up, that is. Let's let them hear, loud and clear. that we are not going to take it any more.
Let us blast out of 2006 and into 2007 with a renewed determination not to let Keith Ellison and his allahu-akbar-howling mob backed by CAIR shut us up.
Let us resolve to back the few voices in the government that "get it," like Congreesman Virgil Goode (R, Va) and deride the ones who bow down to CAIR.
Time to take on CAIR.
http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/
Click on my name below and it'll get you there (If you care about CAIR)
Posted by: unicorns62000
at December 30, 2006 1:41 AM
carolyn2,
that "boiling frogs" can be interpreted two ways.
1. we're the frogs, and the water is kept cool enough for our cold-bloodedness so that we don't notice that it will be raised ever so slightly and then faster and then boil--and we will try to hop out, but to where?
2. they're the frogs and we turn the heat up now, fast, all the way up, and watch 'em hop back to the umma, taking the native frogs that have joined them (one Douggie something-or-other and Keith what's-his-name) back with them.
Am I missing something?
Posted by: unicorns62000
at December 30, 2006 1:49 AM
Don't forget conyers and HR 288, the pro-jihadist legislation he wants to push through congress.
Posted by: Gary
at December 30, 2006 8:05 AM
SPREAD THE WORD EVERYBODY: ISLAM TEACHES FIRST DEGREE MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: pythagoras
at December 30, 2006 1:44 PM
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