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January 8, 2007

Jihadist from Australia apparently killed in Somalia

"My son died four years ago," said his mother, referring to the time of his "radicalization." But here is another instance in which we're only finding out about it after the fact. Why didn't she warn authorities about him at that time? Maybe she did, of course, and they were indifferent, or felt themselves powerless to do anything to stop him from traveling across the world to join a jihad.

"Death ends migrant's three-day journey into jihad," from The Australian, with thanks to Hamuzi:

A MELBOURNE father's mission to join Islamic jihad in Somalia ended with his death three days after arriving in the African region in December to fight Ethiopian-backed forces.

Ahmed Ali, 25, embraced fundamentalist Islam four years ago before travelling to Somalia with his wife and at least one child.

Ali migrated to Australia with his parents in the late 1990s. His conversion to radicalism upset his mother who, when informed of his death, told members of the Islamic community: "My son died four years ago."

While Ali was the first Somalian from Australia known to have returned to join the holy war, community leaders feared more would follow in his footsteps.

Prominent Melbourne-based Somalian cleric Isse Musse told The Australian last night that he was concerned about other members of his community turning to radical Islam and travelling overseas to join the jihad.

"We are worried about that because we don't want anyone to lose life for nothing," he said.

News of Ali's death came after The Weekend Australian reported that an Adelaide man, Warya Kanie, had been arrested in Baghdad on suspicion of joining the insurgency.

Mr Kanie is now being held in Camp Cropper, the US-run Baghdad prison where former dictator Saddam Hussein was kept before his execution 10 days ago.

Sheik Isse, head of the Virgin Mary Mosque in Melbourne's west, said Ali would occasionally attend his mosque for prayers.

He said Ali's mother was "distraught" and was still unable to come to terms with her son's death, which occurred three days after his arrival in Somalia.

"She can't believe that in three days he goes to the front (of the battle) and gets killed," said Sheik Isse. "He's a young man - young people are always interested in new things."

The Australian understands that Ali's wife, an Australian convert to Islam, was pregnant when the couple left for Somalia with their daughter.

Sheik Musse warned other members of his community not to travel overseas to join the jihad. "There are thousands and thousands (there already) - a boy who's from here, what can he do over there? Nothing," he said.

A spokesman for federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said Australian citizens who engaged in hostile activity in a foreign country faced up to 20 years in jail under the Crimes (Foreign Incursion and Recruitment) Act 1978.

Activities covered under the law include attacking heads of state or officials, or acts designed to frighten citizens or assault the nation's officials.

Ali's sister, who would not be named, denied the reports of his death were true. "It's all misinformation," she said. "As far as we're concerned, he's missing and we haven't been able to get in touch with him."

Last night, a Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade spokeswoman told The Australian that Mr Ali's relatives had told the department his wife and children were still in Somalia.

Posted by Robert at January 8, 2007 7:45 AM
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"Death ends migrant's three-day journey into jihad,"

May that be the end for all who take as their life's creed the ravings of a murderous, perverted madman. The world becomes just a little better when even one of these fall to their inevitable doom. How it will be that much better once every jihadi goes the way of this one.

Posted by: yohannbiimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 7:59 AM

The old proverb "You shall reap what you sow" or "What comes around, goes around" is nowhere clearer than in this case. This Ahmed Ali clown chose to follow a teacher (Mohammed) of hate, violence, and death. He embraced his teachings as his own. As a result, they all came home to him one day multiplied a hundred times over. I also somehow think he received a very different, less pleasant reward in the afterlife than what he expected. If you want good to you done in this life and the next, you have to extend it to others. If you do evil, it will return to you eventually. That is justice..........

"Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword."

- Jesus Christ

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 8:18 AM

"There are thousands and thousands (there already) - a boy who's from here, what can he do over there? Nothing"

LOL what a quote. But if there where less people, 'let him go'.

Posted by: W_D_J_D [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 8:36 AM

I wonder how these western country citizens can get away with getting visas to go abroad for jihad? specially young men from ages 18 to 30 traveling alone?
using as examply of my own community of indians, i have rarely seen any of these indian young men go back to india for visits or for education alone.

Posted by: desidude [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 8:53 AM

Strange how they are always so 'concerned' and surprised after it happened.

Could it be because of that dreaded 'backlash?'

Remember: The fear of 'backlash' always scares the Muhammedans shitless, and then, two weeks later, when there was no backlash then they suddenly become very proud that their sons or relatives have become 'martyrs'...

A rather common pattern.

I covered this story here:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/07/aussie-jihad-in-somalia/

But if you're wondering why they do it, just look here and if you have the stomach for it, watch what their 'clerics' preach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWL3cYcWYc

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 9:02 AM

"Ali migrated to Australia with his parents in the late 1990s. His conversion to radicalism upset his mother who, when informed of his death, told members of the Islamic community: "My son died four years ago."

The workings of Islam: first, it kills the mind, then it kills the body.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 9:19 AM

"Prominent Melbourne-based Somalian cleric Isse Musse told The Australian last night that he was concerned about other members of his community turning to radical Islam and travelling overseas to join the jihad.

"We are worried about that because we don't want anyone to lose life for nothing," he said."

For nothing? He is not fighting for allah? He is not fighting for the ummah? I guess if goes back and helps the 'islamic courts' to make life in somalia even more like hell itself, that's fine, but if he gets anhiliated by those heathen Christians from Ethiopia, it's 'for nothing'.

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 10:28 AM

I thought that the imam's comments were interesting. It seems obvious that he at least is not a radical, and the only reason that he belongs to Islam is that he was born into that world. I hope that he can influence others in his mosque not to follow the radical path. We need more imams like this man.

Posted by: Maggie4Life [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 2:22 PM

I just feel sad for the sake of the mother. She knows radical Islam stole her son from her, and this was the culmination of that radicalisation.


At least this appears not to be an example of a psychopathic mother who was commending her son for destroying his and other's lives.

Posted by: payingattention [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 4:54 PM

A Muslim convert is just as useless as a full blown Muslim.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 5:15 PM

i say , goodbye and good riddance.

Posted by: callmeinfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 5:26 PM

payingattention said

At least this appears not to be an example of a psychopathic mother who was commending her son for destroying his and other's lives.

True, at least in front of infidel reporters.

On the topic of Muslim parentage, Wikipedia featured an article on Iskandar Muda, Muslim leader of Aceh in 1500's and 1600's. He had his own son killed, so that he could be succeeded by his son-in-law. Here's a couple of other quotes about him:

Iskandar Muda’s reign was also marked by considerable brutality, directed at disobedient subjects. He also did not hesitate to execute wealthy subjects and confiscate their wealth. Punishments for offenses were gruesome; a French visitor in the 1620s reported "every day the King would have people’s noses cut off, eyes dug out, castrations, feet cut off, or hands, ears, and other parts mutilated, very often for some very small matter." [...] Indeed, one of the aims of Iskandar Muda’s campaigns was to bring prisoners-of-war who could act as slaves for agricultural production.

Not surprisingly, he gained attention for his brutality:

During Iskandar Muda’s reign, eminent Islamic scholars were attracted to Aceh and made it a center of Islamic scholarship.

Remember, this is before the existence of either the U.S. or Israel. I wonder who was "oppressing" them then, that caused them to be so violent?

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 11:55 PM

Of course, I mean "the modern state of Israel" above.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 8, 2007 11:56 PM

HEY,what are you guys talking about, you are looking at it all wrongly,,, what a way to go,, his leaders will give his wife a massive pay out for his servces of killing the infidel, and our stupid governments give her the solo benefits in her new country, so she is guaranteed a wonderful no money worries for the rest of her life...all thanks to the stupid infidels welfare system all from the hard earned tax payers money,,

Posted by: Gaye [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2007 1:33 AM

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