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"Human rights groups say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom." Maybe they are. After all, that the Chinese are utter scoundrels is no secret. But "independence movements" involving Islamic populations nowadays are all too susceptible to jihadist influence, and blend seamlessly with the Islamic supremacism that ultimately wants much more than just autonomy for any given region. From the BBC, with thanks to all who sent this in:
Chinese police have killed 18 people in a raid on an alleged militant training camp in the western autonomous region of Xinjiang, officials say.One policeman was killed and another injured in the raid, which took place on Friday, a police spokesman said.
China is waging a campaign against what it calls separatist activities of Xinjiang's Uighur Muslim minority....
Many Uighurs resent the large-scale influx into the region of Han Chinese settlers, and some groups are fighting to establish an independent Islamic nation, leading to periodic violence in the region.
Beijing accuses some groups of links to al-Qaeda, but human rights groups say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom.
Posted by Robert at January 8, 2007 4:31 PM
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Believe me I have no love for the government of China. I firmly believe they are a threat to this country. That being said, when they see a threat to their country they sure do deal with it.
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at January 8, 2007 4:37 PM
Lets see how the world treats the plight of Uighurs compared with that of Tibetans.
Posted by: Hermit at January 8, 2007 4:38 PM
It is great to see anyone seeking out and destroying terrorist camps
Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 8, 2007 4:50 PM
Moral of the story:
Eliminate Jihadis. No exceptions.
at January 8, 2007 4:57 PM
"Beijing accuses some groups of links to al-Qaeda, but human rights groups say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom."
So, the choice is between having the Chinese suppress religious freedom or letting Islam suppress religious freedom.
Talk about a stinkiest skunk contest.
Posted by: USBeast at January 8, 2007 5:03 PM
Odd how these 'Human Rights' organizations seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese crackdown on Christians or Falun Gong. I guess its ok as long its its not against Muslims (or being done by muslims... see Dafur).
As for China... Hasn't they blocked most UN resolutions against Iran and the other Jihadist regimes? Seems they are finding out what happens when you take the viper to your chest.
Posted by: CrazyFool at January 8, 2007 5:05 PM
A rare instance of the Chinese government being justified in employing viciousness and cruelty against certain groups. May they redirect all their resources from persecuting Falun Gong members to Muslims worldwide. It would do the leaders of the West and of India a lot of good to heed this example. Posted by: US_infidelYeah, if only the PLA/Red Guards would turn all their attention towards the Jihadis, they'd be so much better off. Another thought - since everything we buy is Made in China, can we outsource the war on Jihad to them? After all, they have their price - just ask them to start in their own backyard (Xinxiang, Gansu), and spread out to Kashmir, Afghanistan, Kyrghizstan, Iran, et al, and even annex Kyrghizstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, a la Xinxiang. Some may balk at their influence being so widespread, but look at it another way: by the time they are done, they'll be so thinly spread that they'd be weakened to the point that they'd have to pull back. Hopefully by then, they'd have eliminated Islam from their conquered areas.
Two birds. One stone.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 8, 2007 5:08 PM
What's in it for them? Oil - from Turkmenistan and Iran.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 8, 2007 5:09 PM
They are after all, communists, for now…
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/china.html
Notice the date? Yes sadly the Host of this page has probably been hunted down and killed.
at January 8, 2007 5:14 PM
Beijing accuses some groups of links to al-Qaeda, but human rights groups say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom.
Funny how the MSM always says "human rights groups" they do seem to run in packs. There are more "human rights groups" than there are boy bands - and I am counting Menudo.
I want the MSM to tell us exactly WHAT "human rights groups" AND where they get their funding.
Once they do that we won't need a drawing to get the picture.
I say GO CHINA!! And please DON'T STOP!! Chinese friends have told me that the Uighurs blow up apartment buildings in Beijing and have been doing so before 9.11. They complained that this never makes it into the American media. More than one person have mentioned this - independently of one another. Unprompted by the way.
Posted by: MeanieMo at January 8, 2007 5:25 PM
Chinese for kill em where you find em==mogoboom
Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 8, 2007 5:30 PM
China will one day reap what it has sowed across the globe. They support Iran, sudan, north korea, etc. Human rights are not a given in china. One day they will reap what they sow. They are not immune to future islamic violence.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at January 8, 2007 5:32 PM
Persian helped promulgate Islam in China: Iranian cultural attaché
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at January 8, 2007 5:34 PM
They have one choice as I see it, that is if they want to maintain their consumer/producer society. Check out the average Chinese, yes they are still discovering disco but they like it. They also like dogs as well. Join with us, your biggest trading partner, now, or your insurrectionists (freedom fighters) to come, will.
Posted by: tgusa at January 8, 2007 5:39 PM
Go China! The boldness of islam knows no bounds!
OT but I just found this:
They want an islamic state in Australia!!!!
HELP!!
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/local-push-for-islamic-state/2007/01/08/1168104922239.html
Posted by: Gramfan at January 8, 2007 5:44 PM
Other option to offer China - quit Tibet, and take all of West Asia (Arabia, Levant, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkistan) instead.
ummahnewslinks
Firuz, the son of the last Sassanid Emperor Yazdgird III, fled to China once Persia was overrun by the Arabs. Somehow, China was lucky enough never to fall to the Turks, even though they fell to the Infidel Mongols (Chengiz, Kublai).
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 8, 2007 5:51 PM
The Article mentions human rights groups. FYI, the president of Amnesty International is a muslim, of Pakistani origins or lineage name of Irene Kahn. The muslims have been busy setting up "human rights" groups in the lands of Islam, and infilitrating and taking over other human rights groups. It would be instructive if someone had the time and ability to research all of these NGO's and sort out just how many are infiltrated, dominated and controlled by muslims.
Here is a good website NGO Monitor This particular page links to the myth of the Jenin "massacre"
at January 8, 2007 6:05 PM
Believe me I have no love for the government of China. I firmly believe they are a threat to this country. That being said, when they see a threat to their country they sure do deal with it.
Posted by: gaelen at January 8, 2007 04:37 PM
gaelen, I couldn't agree with you more. I hate Communism too but we can all learn a valuable lesson from the Chinese government's fierce determination to protect their country. I wish we would stand up half as much to the mo's....
Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 8, 2007 6:08 PM
Infidel Pride: "...can we outsource the war on Jihad to them?"
Excellent idea only outsource the war against islamic terror to more civilized pro-capitalists pro-Western entities such as Japan, South Korea, and India, and many of the former soviet repulics ("eastern Europe", e.g. Lativa, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, Ukraine, etc.). Most or all are in dire need of more land and all could use the oil. USA should make a treaty with these groups and let them have at it.
at January 8, 2007 6:09 PM
Nariz said
The muslims have been busy setting up "human rights" groups in the lands of Islam
Very interesting point. I'd be interested in that too. Kind of like when Syria was in charge at the UN of investigating human rights abuses.
Posted by: special_guest at January 8, 2007 6:10 PM
Odd how these 'Human Rights' organizations seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese crackdown on Christians or Falun Gong. I guess its ok as long its its not against Muslims (or being done by muslims... see Dafur).CrazyFool
What cave do you live in. Human rights groups have been making big noise about the treatment of Falun Galong and Christians.. As regards Falun Galon, what do you know about it? It is a rabid cult, a mixture of Branch Dravidian, James Jone and Islam.. as regards total control of the personality.. I have no sympathy for Falun Galong, and no Christian Should, they are as deserving of your care and sympathy as Islam or James Jone's Temple or David Koresh's cult.
Posted by: Nariz at January 8, 2007 6:14 PM
TINBH
I was thinking only about China - the only country that gets away with slave labor without being called on it. I disagree with your choices - Japan, if it did get involved, wouldn't be anywhere near Tojo's Japan, which is what one would need to deal with the Islamics, while South Korea would be equally ineffective (North Korea might be different, but they are in bed with Islam, with KJI even calling for a holy war against the US - a genuine innovation for an athiest state, as Charles Krauthammer pointed out). And India - two stories on DhimmiWatch demonstrate over the last week how they are totally unequal to the task at hand. They aren't the guys who can pull this off.
No, I want the PLA to do this job. All those rural Chinese who get turned down for visas to Shanghai or Beijing (yes, Chinese of other areas do need visas to visit these 2 cities) should be re-planted in Xinxiang, Gunsu, and any new territory conquered (suggestion#1 - Kyrgyzstan) Suggested contract for this job - $0.59/hr ;->
Nariz
Irene Khan (not Kahn - Kahn is a German, not a Paki name) is a Bangladeshi, not a Paki.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 8, 2007 6:24 PM
No one seems to have touched in depth what this all means literally outside of China. Xinjiang Province sits on the Pakistan border along with Afghanistan. There is a better than average chance that bin Laden and Zawahiri are in this Chinese no man's land.
Zawahiri, when US forces got their last shot at him from a Predator, was moving from what appears the Xinjiang region.
There is one major travel route which links Pakistan, Afghanistan and China and that is Xinjiang. Granted though Zawahiri was captured in Chechnya early in his career and turned to be a FSB agent who then ended up in China for visits, but for the Chicoms to whacking the radical Muslims there with such force means they have real problems with the jihadists they are playing money for oil with in Iran.
I doubt this will flush al Qaeda from China, but what a festive area Pakistan will become with it's anti western intel factions, Taliban, al Qaeda and the soon coming Chislamist (cool word huh lol) all chanting death to the world.
The bright side is if China's burgeoning minions all start raising hell for autonomy then China will have it's hands full not to be aiming at America and Taiwan, and, Russia will have to be scowling alone again trying to blackmail Europe with oil cut offs.
at January 8, 2007 6:30 PM
Nariz,
I have a question for you, it is simple and only requires a yes or no answer. Are you a jihadist?
at January 8, 2007 6:55 PM
The Chinese are too smart to be politically correct or care about 'human rights' organizations. They follow relentlessly their national interest. Good for them. Compared to the Chinese we're a bunch of imbeciles, that's why they're on the rise and us on the descent. And by the way, China did not force us to borrow money from them or to buy their junk.
Posted by: george_rem at January 8, 2007 6:56 PM
Ah yes. In absence of any facts, the BBC gives us a 'balanced' report of what appears to be happening. Well, 'balance' as the BBC sees it:
"Beijing [nasty, brutal, repressive; remember Tiananmen Square] accuses some groups of links to al-Qaeda".
"...but human rights groups [honest, committed to social justice, disinterested] say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom".
Of course, the BBC world-view handbook has a rule of thumb that 'human rights' organisations are generally fluffy and trustworthy, while governments are lying toads.
That having been said, I am more than prepared to believe that Beijing is stamping down hard on Muslims - peaceful or no. Unfortunately, if there are hordes of jihadists running amok, peaceful Muslims will suffer badly.
Maybe some of the hardier Islamists will leave Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Kashmir, Palestine and the other 1,265 Designated Islamic Grievance Zones to take on the Chinese? If they love death, they surely will?
Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at January 8, 2007 6:57 PM
We can always make more junk. Besides, I am not sure we are as stupid as they think. Number 1 rule of warfare… Never underestimate your enemy.
Posted by: tgusa at January 8, 2007 7:06 PM
With the Chinese crackdown on Islamist within their own country, is Osama and his boys going to make a tape and stake out any Chinese interest worldwide and bomb them, just like their threats on the US and other WEstern nations? Could you imagine if the US would blow up Mosques and kill muslims in the US what would the UN,/EU, arab street say about that! but the Chinese have no problem, and the world has no problem with them killing muslims.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 8, 2007 7:27 PM
Same story, different place.
They always fight to establish a separate islamic state because they can't be loyal to any nation.
Why don't they just move to an islamic state? That would not spread islam.
at January 8, 2007 7:33 PM
One can wish the Chinese government ill in its occupation of Tibet, and wish it well in its clamping down on local Muslims in Xinjiang. This is not hypocrisy. This is common sense.
Posted by: Hugh at January 8, 2007 7:41 PM
Irene Khan (not Kahn - Kahn is a German, not a Paki name) is a Bangladeshi, not a Paki.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
Le plus ça change..
at January 8, 2007 8:29 PM
These jihadists show once again what mental midgets they really are. Do they really expect the Chinese to be as easy on them as the West has been? As much as communism disgusts me at least it has somewhat evolved in China to the point that its leadership is quite unwilling to risk national survival by pandering to these crazies. I hope they utterly smash them-better for the West to deal with communist China than a bunch of insane jihadists bent on world destruction in the name of their god.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 8, 2007 9:10 PM
Could you imagine if the US would blow up Mosques and kill muslims in the US what would the UN,/EU, arab street say about that! but the Chinese have no problem, and the world has no problem with them killing muslims.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
You might be pleasantly surprised what the EUropean *street* might have to say about that. They mightn't say what they really think into a microphone but.. I know what my downpressed dhimmified brethren over there are *really* thinking!
They certainly open up when they are over here in the US.. visiting or living here..
everyone thinks at first he - or she - is the only one who has misgivings about islam.. virtaully *everyone* has had more than one negative experience with moslems [see Dominic] in our own lands. And then they make such a brilliant case for extradition on TV!
It's just we still feel "guilty" for saying these things ya hear?! Most of us anyway.
Long live the Fjordman!!! SKØL!!!!!!
Posted by: MeanieMo at January 8, 2007 9:16 PM
>>>waging a campaign
Is it not the Muslim separatists who are waging a campaign?
>>>but human rights groups say the Chinese authorities are using the fight against terrorism as a way of cracking down on the independence movement and suppressing religious freedom.
What are the names of the “Human Rights” groups they mention? Who are they and what is their relevance? Why is it wrong for a country to suppress an independence movement seeking to overthrow the government? Why does the BBC consider people armed with weapons and sowing terror to “religious” people? Or are we just supposed to believe China is picking on Muslims because it has nothing better to do? Chinese crusaders?
at January 8, 2007 9:48 PM
While the Crusaders were attacking the Islamists from the East, the Mongols were attacking them from the West. Is history repeating itself?
Hugh?
at January 8, 2007 10:34 PM
tgla to nariz
"...are you a jihadist...yes or no?"
.........................................
..tick tock..tick tock..tick tock..tick tock..
aaaaaaeehh..
............................................
nariz
"ok..I'll take mo's wives for $50 Bob.."
Posted by: pismopal at January 8, 2007 10:37 PM
Asia is becoming more and more a hot pot. To many problems with islam for instance:
Children born to Malaysian and Thai parents are barred from attending public scholl in Malaysia.
http://civoc.com/society/?p=127
kind of outrageous
Posted by: Arnie at January 8, 2007 11:01 PM
I also wonder why there is not more about the Philipines concerning terrorism.
Hope to get some here to join the movement soon.
http://civoc.com/society/?p=127
at January 8, 2007 11:04 PM
I have no great love for the Chinese government or any other totalitarian states, but nonetheless I think it will become one of the sad ironies of history that China will largely be spared the cancer of radical Islamism and all other dangerous forms of religious extremism precisely because the Chinese don't piss around with those who actively and openly threaten the security of the state and its people, unlike some wussy Western governments we could mention.
Posted by: angloirishslav at January 8, 2007 11:11 PM
The Mohammedans in China will not be protected by the PC/Human Rights disease which hinders most Western efforts to control the cult. Much as I dislike a Communist regime I dislike the 'Cult of Death' more so hope the Chinese weed them out ruthlessly, they are on the Chinese/Pakistan/Afghanistan border after all.
Regarding the Phillipines the ongoing terrorism in Mindanao is being stoked and financed by both Indonesian and Malaysian infiltrators under the banner of Jamail Islamiah the group responsible for the Bali bombings plus the Australian Embassy and Marriot bombings in Jakarta and numerous attacks on Bars and Clubs all over Indonesia. The aim of this group is to form an Islamic Caliphate comprising Malaysia/Singapore/Indonesia/Phillippines and however much of Thailand they can steal.
at January 9, 2007 2:34 AM
The price for corruption in China is a bullet to the head . And the cost of the bullet is borne by the relatives of the deceased.
The marxistsleftists of India have a fatal attraction for......................
Posted by: Crows&Cows at January 9, 2007 3:56 AM
Hugh:
"One can wish the Chinese government ill in its occupation of Tibet"
Well , Buddha never founded any creed or ism called Buddhism. Intriguing, how the shocking hedonism of buddhism paved the way for islamic incursions by aiding and abetting them, is not known to many. The appeaser is always the first victim. Hence the incineration of buddha viharas by them.
The islamicstyled fanaticism of Jainism was dealt its deathblow by Sree ThiruGnaanaSambandhar in Madurai by impaling them all and mass incineration of their purveyors of Evil.
If you read history written by Evil sophists and vested interests like romila thapars, TRUTH gets eclipsed.
at January 9, 2007 4:16 AM
Thank God the Chinese don't believe in political correctness and human rights for terrorists.
They're the only country to deal with the terrorists in a way they deserve.
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at January 9, 2007 5:16 AM
Dear Friends,
Considering the SHOcking fact that Indians right from its 'haloed ' presidents, indutva vajpayees AALL, have been apotheosizing paedophile charlatan "godmen"(SIC) for aeons, who build "superspeciality hospitals" in the name of "charities", where cannibalistic indians drug, sodomize, rape, videotape for pornography business and with butcher like precision hack and remove all the vital organs to send them to the respective "hospitals" and to meet the demands of clientele worldwide, PLEASE click on the following link, archive and read at once. It is SOS. I am not posting it in full as indian sevaks carp I am clogging the bandwidth of JW.
I also have a very shocking fact to convey. When I had presented all the important facts to an RSS member who is pompously wordy in pillorying "Western decadent(sic) values" he replied :
" ...these "godmen" serve the needs of the time".
Judge for yourself:
http://www.tigerhawktalk.com/howpedophilesoperate.html
"How do pedophiles work? How do they get children to agree to be sexual with them?
What is their "modus operandi?" This page will attempt to give you an overview of the way pedophiles operate and how parents can take steps to protect their kids".
Read it all NOW.
at January 9, 2007 7:18 AM
Well done to the Chinese Government. They are the real lion. Don't mess with the lion. They are the "middle kingdom" in past and in the future
The western government should learn from them in dealing with terrorist.
at January 9, 2007 8:03 AM
Indian sevaks are not carping any more. Continue, please.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at January 9, 2007 8:48 AM
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