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January 10, 2007

Somali jihad "funded in Britain"

Britain exporting jihad. "Somalia terror 'funded in Britain,'" from the Press Association, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

The Foreign Office is investigating reports of British casualties in US air strikes on al Qaida suspects in Somalia.

The attacks came amid claims that support for the Islamic militant movement had come from the UK....

Ethiopia's prime minister has said that many international terrorists had been killed, injured or captured in the fighting - including Britons.

"Notwithstanding the motives for this reported military action," Ban's spokeswoman Michele Montas said, "the secretary general is concerned about the new dimension this kind of action could introduce to the conflict and the possible escalation of hostilities that may result."

Somalia's deputy prime minister has claimed that much of the funding for the Islamist militants was coming from Britain and that some of their fighters were British and American passport holders.

There was also condemnation from British-based Islamic groups of the US intervention in the conflict.

Posted by Robert at January 10, 2007 9:19 AM
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Muslim jihadists found in Somalia with British passports are not British in the true sense of the word. Being a muslim and being British are mutually exclusive.

A muslim's primary allegiance is to Islam; therefore all "British" muslims are a threat to both Britain and the western world in general.

The fact that Britain appears to be a hot-bed of Islamic extremism is due to the policies of the New Labour fascist government, which regards minority groups as being superior to the law-abiding majority. The situation will deteriorate further if/when Gordon Brown takes up the reins. He would like to imprison those who criticise Islam.

Posted by: watling [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 9:58 AM

Same thing goes for American passports. Just because you posess one, does not mean you are an American. Muslim teachings are in direct conflict with the ideals of this great country. Therefore, they cannot be citizens of the US. I know, freedom of speech, etc, etc. However, I don't know of one article in the Constitution that makes it ok to hate, dominate, kill, torture or incite to do any of the above. I'm sure there is something against it. Deport them all.

Posted by: igetit [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:05 AM

For British read Pakistani Muslims. Anyone caught with a British passport and fighting against British troops or British interests is a traitor and as such should be imprisoned in the Tower of London and then hanged.

Posted by: Realist [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:09 AM

"There was also condemnation from British-based Islamic groups of the US intervention in the conflict."


........Imagine that! .... Muslims complaining about someone standing up against terrorists, murderers, muggers, thieves, and mother rapers....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:10 AM

UK is doing this for a long time now. Unfortunately, this is not an accident, but a result of a very cynical policy of UK political class. In the eighties this class has supported mujahedin in order to humiliate Soviet Union, let huge numbers of muslim activists into UK, believing they will do evil only elsewhere, not in UK. This policy continued in the nineties. British Muslims fought actively against Serbs and British public was fanatically against the Serbs. British media pictured the conflict in the Balcans as resulting from lack of human rights for Muslims. I remember well British newspapers from those days: pictures portraying Bosnian Muslims or Albanians always showed good looking people, while Serbs were always presented as ugly , toothless and alike. This is why an ordinary Brit still doesn´t have a clue when it comes to act of violence that British Muslems meanwhile committed on the British soil. Britain has a long tradition of betraying the allies. Let´s hope this will change now, that Britain itself and its own population is hurt and continues to be hurt.

Posted by: Serbian girl [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:13 AM

s_sgt7:

"We are in a war for our civilization and to be PC now is our death sentence".

Absolutely. Also agree with Realist.

Posted by: Crows&Cows [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:42 AM

"Britain exporting jihad".

Not a very useful way of putting it. Do you think that the British government or the British people are "exporting" it (whatever "exporting" means)? You surely mean that some people in Britain, with British passports, support jihad and go abroad to pursue it. So what's new?

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:02 AM

I don't have any intention to talk anymore to those who say "I defend Milosevic". He was a brutal GENOCIDAL STALINIST. If you think he was an anti-jihadist, then you did not understand how the world works. Good luck with you fantasies.

Posted by: Stefania [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:03 AM

Again, I say that I was one of those who admired Robert for his staunch anti-dhimmi work, but I am very disappointed by his attitude when it comes to write about the Chinese, Serbian and Russian butchers. according to your way of reasoning, because of the presence of a few jihadists in Russia, Bosnia or China, those regimes had a right to EXTERMINE ENTIRE POPULATIONS..

Posted by: Stefania [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:06 AM

Serb Girl,

Milosevic and his henchmen are hardly good pin-up boys for non-Serb anti-jihadists. Ask the Christian Croats and Slovenes.

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:07 AM

Aw, looks like the Bank of Jihad made a very poor investment in the Somali utopia the Islamaniacs tried to create. Boo hoo. Looks like the Bank will have to invest in more promising ventures such as Thailand and the Phillipines. I'd recommend China but it looks like the reds are on to them now so that might be another financial loss.

Just imagine how much better the poor fools would live if they would take the money they send to "charity" and invest in non-deadly projects in the ummah instead. Of course, this would be asking too much. Better to leave cesspoolia as it is so the jihad will have plenty of resentment to fuel it.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:08 AM

The Islamists are funded by the Saudi's but receive jihadi support from British and Pakistani insurgents flowing into the country.

BTW, we're kicking their ass in Somalia. Congrats to our Green Army.

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:08 AM

Can't praise the actions of the US and Ethiopia enough, with the handover of US foreign policy to "foreign legislative bodies" as in the dems HR1 ramrodded through congress yesterday, it may fall to countries like Ethiopia to save Western Civilization. If that resolution becomes law, I expect foreign views to take over domestic policies in the USA as well, attacks such as carried out successfully against the terror cells in Somalia by our forces will not be allowed in the future, so before they overide a veto and pass it we need to get as much accomplished in the Middle East ASAP or strengthen countries like Ethiopia to do the job on their own. There will be dead "Islamofacists" (incredible "plutoed" beat that for best new word, isn't it?) from every country in the world that had gave them refuge. What we need to make sure of is none of them escape back to those countries. That is why I'm suspicious of incidents like those two Iraqis hiding in teh truck, sure they may have been "legal US Citizens" but how do we know they weren't sneaking in and out of the country? If they had come in contact with C4 overseas and came in contact with those sprinkler parts, that would explain the big scare. But don't worry, the democrats are in charge, no one will attack us now.

Posted by: Catawhumpus [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:18 AM

s_sgt7

Albright is a registered foreign agent; she was a spokeswoman for Dubai Port Deal--this is no joke. If you are a lawyer, you may access the court document for it.

Posted by: ssa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:25 AM

Hell, folks, there are places you can go in almost any major city in the world and get passports from wherever you want.

Posted by: Rowane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:26 AM

"because of the presence of a few jihadists "


.....These "few jihadists" were proprogating the campaign not unlike what we see today. They were taking over the land, subrogating its citizens, murderering, kidnapping, raping, and other Islamic pasttimes.

These "few jihadists" were by no means "few" or peaceful.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:34 AM

Although Milosovic was a bastard, the Serbian Christian people have never done a ting to deserve being bombed by Clinton and All-dim.

The Serbians not only rescued many downed pilots during WWII but have continued this through out the years, I know of at least 2 covert teams the helped through during the eighties.

Posted by: Rowane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:43 AM

Oh and look at the great things "a few jihadists" have done for Russia. Gassed a theater full of people, bombed planes in flight, murdered a school full of children. What in the world are you folks thinking? I'd support ANYONE over moslems, any day PERIOD! Better another Pol Pot than another SoDamn Insane.

Posted by: Rowane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:53 AM

The following from Times ONLINE is an example of the dire consequences of obfuscating the struggle for suvival of western civilization with a "war on terrorism" or obfuscating the whole affair by blaming everything on al Qaida..

Somali Brits are not al-Qaeda

Al Qaeda is not THE problem, it is only a branch, a twig off the tree of THE problem, and the problem is Islam.. Of course we can't tell President Bush and the Republican Party that, given that he has chosen a Sunni Muslim (Zalmay Khalizad) to replace John Bolton.

A fact which is being ignored by "conservatives", LGFer's, FReepers, Oreilly, Limpballs, Robertson.. and even Jihad Watchers, the silence is deafening.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 12:03 PM

Stefania:

If you're going to level a charge like you did in previous postings, you need to back it up with direct quotations. Otherwise, it's slander.

And if you have a problem with something you think or claim Robert Spencer said, please don't drive a thread off-topic over it.

Marisol Seibold
Jihad Watch News Editor

Posted by: MarisolJW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 12:17 PM

Nariz,

You are not very honest. Bush did not replace Bolton with anything. He was presured out by the democrats to resign. See how his appointment was obstructed, with endless filibuster, by Dem in reciting peoms and the sorts; it's all recorded in black and white.

I am very aware how you distort things. People can be very polite with here.

You can't tell me your left wing like Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, and Ellison are as great as you tauted.

Yeah, right! Only sniveling idiots would go with you.

Posted by: ssa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 12:44 PM

Rowane, I looked at your blog. Very impressive. You have experienced Islamists first hand in their captivity. I salute you for your escape and service to our country and Israel.

Did anyone notice our pro-Milosevic comments have been deleted? Wow, this is the first time for me. I'll have to watch what I post from now on. I have to say I've never seen Robert posting anything about exterminating Muslims or anything remotely like that, so this Stefania person is way off base in her accusations. Robert only posts news to make us all aware of what we are up against.

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 2:34 PM

"I don't have any intention to talk anymore to those who say 'I defend Milosevic'. He was a brutal GENOCIDAL STALINIST"

-posted above by Stefania

"Milosevic is not fundamentally racist. He is a nationalist, but even that he wears very lightly. He’s a pragmatist who wanted Serbs to be in the majority. I don’t think he was an ethnic purist."

-Lord David Owen, chief EU mediator and co-author of the Vance-Owen Peace Plan designed to end the military conflict in Bosnia, from testimony given at the trial of Slobodan Milosevic at the Hague

"GENOCIDAL STALINIST"? -Take it up with the "Lord" , Stefania

"Thank God my wife is neither a Serb nor a Jew"

- Franjo Tudjman, first President of Croatia following the dissolution of Yugoslavia

"There can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic societies and political institutions... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf. A nation, and an individual, who has accepted Islam is incapable of living and dying for another ideal after that fact. It is unthinkable for a Muslim to sacrifice himself for any tzar or ruler, no matter what his name may be, or for the glory of any nation, or party or some such, because acting on the strongest Muslim instinct he recognizes in this a certain type of godlessness and idolatry."

-Alija Izetbegovic from the Islamic Declaration

Compare the intolerance and outright racism displayed in the above quotes with these excerpts from a speech delivered in 1989 by Slobodan Milosevic at Kosovo Polje( at a time when ethnic, religious and nationalist sentiment among the various nations and peoples of Yugoslavia was building to a fever pitch) before a crowd of a million Serbs gathered to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the Battle of Kosovo-

"Equal and harmonious relations among Yugoslav peoples are a necessary condition for the existence of Yugoslavia... Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it. Today, more than in the past, members of other peoples and nationalities also live in it. This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage. National composition of almost all countries in the world today, particularly developed ones, has also been changing in this direction. Citizens of different nationalities, religions, and races have been living together more and more frequently and more and more successfully... all people in Serbia who live from their own work, honestly, respecting other people and other nations, are in their own republic."

Tell me again who's the "bastard"

Posted by: november1981 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 7:16 PM

NATO was correct in stopping the genocide of ethnic Albanians by Serbs in Kosova. The action of saving the Kosovars from Milosevic's hybrid communist-fascist regime was morally correct, and serves as a shining example of the general decency and fairness of the West. Contrary to what "Serbian Girl" and others claim, the Serb-Albanian question is not directly related to jihad or indeed the spread of Islam in the Balkans. Anyone who know the Balkans, especially Albanians, knows that Albanians are not fanatical Muslims: the religion of Albanians is Albanianism. After all, Albania's genuinely revered national hero is Skanderburg, a Roman Catholic who fought against the Ottoman Empire. During the communist dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, ownership of the Koran was outlawed, every single mosque in the country was closed down, and the worship of Allah declared illegal and punishable by imprisonment or worse. Notwithstanding the stifling political climate in that country at the time, this state of affairs, which existed for decades, would not have been possible if the Albanian psyche had contained even just a scintilla of the jihadi sickness that has infected our planet. (Moreover, we all know that Mother Theresa of Calcutta was an ethnic Albanian).

Even though the Saudi Arabians are pouring money into Albania in order to build ostentatious mosques in a vain attempt to spread their baleful influence, most Albanians remainly staunchly pro-American and pro-European. Albania will never become an outpost or launching station for jihad into Europe.

In short, to imply that Albanians were, or are, the bad guys and Serbs the good guys in the ongoing global struggle against Islamofascism is simplistic and plain wrong.

Posted by: The Northumbrian [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:27 PM

Northumbrian, Stephany etc.

couple of questions to you, or better to say stimulations to start thing:

1. If Albanians are so staunched pro-European and pro-American, why were they such a staunched fascists during the Second World War, engaged in SS divisions (SS Skenderbeg), searching for the last few remining Jews hiding to kill them or to hand out to Germans? At the same time Serbs were one of the few nations of the region fighting Nazis, being sent to concentration camps (app. 1 million Serbs were killed in the Second World War, out of 6 million strong nation). How comes that Serbs and Albanians made this fundamental change : first becoming fashists (or stalinists) , second , who were in a massive support for Nazism, a truly racist and chauvinistic ideology of becoming so pro-democratic (and this in Enver Hoxa Albania). Let me help you understand the situation, it is not so difficult: Croatians, Albanians, Bosnian Muslims and all the rest engaged as perpetrators in the Second World War, were never able to forgive Serbs the genocide that they have done over the Serbs. This is why they are eager to identify “genocides” done by Serbs (“We have done it, so you must have done it too). The same way many Germans are eager to see Israel as some sort of contemporary Third Reich. Engaging on the “Palestinian” side, some of them truly believe they are fighting Hitler (60 years too late). It is not really very difficult to understand the pschychological mechanism behind .
2. Do you know that Serbs were allies of UK and USA in the both world wars? Are you aware of the fact that ordinary Serbs were risking their lives (and some of them died) while rescuing shot British and USA pilots, while Croatians, and Albanians were turning them to Germans or simply killing them? You two are a proof for all the Serbs who think that British are ignorant , arrogant and treacherous.
2. Kosovo and Bosnia are now NATO occupied and NATO can now access any part of it. So where is the evidence of a genocide? Do you know what a word genocide mean? The fact is that before NATO started bombing Serbia, there were about 3000 victims in Kosovo, most of them killed by KLA (Albanian organization that until 1998 was perceived as terrorist organization by USA). The massive exodus of Kosovo Albanians was staged in order to legitimize the NATO bombing. Coming back to Kosovo, they brought a large numbers of Albanians from Albania to Kosovo. Those staunchly pro-USA and pro-European Albanians have destroyed meanwhile over 150 monasteries and churches in Kosovo. The few remaining Serbs live there in ghettos.
3. What Lord Owen said about Milosevic is not true. He was not a nationalist. He was a socialists, or rather a social democrat. I disliked him, because I am against socialism. But neither he, nor Serbs have engaged or done anything that could be described as a genocide. Moreover, the genocide claim, unless supported with evidence, should be treated as a very serious crime. Since no-one claiming this hasn´t been put to the court and punished, we can conclude that in today´s world all people are equal , but some of them more than the others. It is not punishable to slander or in many cases to kill Serbs (hunderts beheaded in Bosnia, thousands missing in Kosovo, 400.000 expelled from Croatia – all not worth bein covered in the Western media). . That most “Western” “democracies” are supporting this is not a “shining example of the general decency and fairness of the West”, but exactly the opposite : a dark , ugly and stinking example of West not being able to stand up to its declared standards and values, paying only the lip service to what is supposed to be justice, rule of the law etc.
4. Read intelligent and so funny update on non-Islamic Albanians and Kosovo, by Julia Gorin, respeced USA Jewish conservative columnist and comedian :
http://www.theonerepublic.com/archives/Columns/Gorin/20061026GorinKosovo.html

Posted by: Serbian girl [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 11, 2007 6:38 AM

I ment stimulations to start thinking. Sorry for ortography mistakes,

Best regards,

Posted by: Serbian girl [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 11, 2007 7:07 AM
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