Yeah we know how well they treat their P.O.W.s. Just ask Nick Berg or Paul Johnson. The Sheikh Abdala Darvish is obviously full of crap. But I believe the Q tells followers to lie to infidels. Oh wait I should watch what I say, I don't want to be labeled a racist.

Posted by: americanmadestrat at January 10, 2007 12:56 PM

Somehow, I don't see these nice sounding principles regarding the Islamic treatment of POW's being used-perhaps against fellow Muslims, but not against the "apes and pigs". If I were caught by the enemy in wartime I'd certainly expect the worst possible treatment-especially when it's the peaceful ones doing the capturing.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 10, 2007 12:59 PM

"Muhammad initially shunned them and wouldn't accept the booty they offered him, but then he received this revelation: "persecution is worse than slaughter." That is, if the Muslims are being persecuted, they can kill their enemies even in transgression of their moral laws."

Don't you love this? "Allah" amends his commands, which essentially turns his initial word into meaningless prattle. How much of the Quran is rendered thus because of a second "revelation" that comes about due to circumstances that make the first inconvenient? I'm sure that Robert could write a whole series of books regarding these amendments to "Allah's" FINAL messages to mankind.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at January 10, 2007 1:06 PM

America would be better off treating muslim POW's the SAME WAY they executed western hostages.
Forget the Geneva Convention, as it does NOTHING to save the lives of all non-muslims in their control.
What is the point of rules when your enemy REFUSES TO DO THE SAME and uses your own restrictions against you and your allies?
Guantanamo Prison is a joke and a country club.
Treat these partisans and international gangsters with utter ruthlessness and harshness.
It is very pathetic when a barking dog is considered cruel treatement against these muslim devils in prison.
LET THE DOGS EAT THEM!!
The Russians and Chinese are masters of dealing with murderers and terrorists.
I wish America would do the same as those nations when dealing with mass murderers, oops.....I mean muslims.

Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at January 10, 2007 1:07 PM

Darvish is performing like a dutiful Muslim. Lying to infidels as prescribed in the Qur'an. Also typical of the Islamist, the audacity to expect sentient beings to believe their utter nonsense.

He actually made it sound like being a POW is like going away to summer camp. once again, the Islamist is undone by their own words. Whether this is intended arrogance, or sheer stupidity is questionable. What is not questionable is that ever syllable spoken by this clown is an outright lie.

Posted by: awake at January 10, 2007 1:11 PM

And the massacre of the Jews of Medina after the siege can be compared with?...Oh I know, Hitler's Einzatzgruppen.

Posted by: Celsius at January 10, 2007 1:31 PM

I wonder if the young Israeli soldier is even alive.. I have not seen any photos....

Perhaps he has withstood the forced conversion attempt....

Muslims lie.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 10, 2007 1:31 PM

I thought is was 'unbelief is worse than slaughter'-

What is it really, 'persecution worse than slaughter' or unbelief?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at January 10, 2007 1:32 PM

Crusader I agree- infact the Geneva convention endangers our troops- not protects them- the only hting the barbarian islamic terrorists understand is terrorism, no amount of good treatment of prisoners on our part is going to change their minds and make them say 'awwww- they treat us nice- let's return the favor' Our military has been severely hampered by the ocnventions rules while our enemy has been free to wage an effective terrorism inspired war against us. They break every geneva rule imaginable, and have banked on the fact that we will follow the rules. Israel is another country severely endangered by the rules- and yet no matter how closely both our countries follow the rules, we STILL get criticised for 'abuse'

http://sacredscoop.com

Posted by: CottShop at January 10, 2007 1:33 PM

I've noticed the implicit assumption that all prisoners of war are male, which might be a little anachronistic with the number of women now serving in the militaries of many countries.

Doesn't Islam have different "rules" for female prisoners -- involving, of course, repeated rape as a "possession of the right hand"? Didn't I read somewhere one of these nightmare clerics saying just that?

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at January 10, 2007 1:48 PM

Note: this does not pertain to muslim to kufir relations!
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Definitions of ethic of reciprocity on the Web:

The Golden Rule, also called the ethic of reciprocity, is an ethical statement which is found in many religions and philosophies: *~1970-1640 BCE "Do for one who may do for you, / That you may cause him thus to do." - The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant 109-110, Ancient Egypt, tr. R.B. Parkinson.*~700 BCE "That nature only is good when it shall not do unto another whatever is not good for its own self." - Dadistan-i-Dinik 94:5, Zoroastrianism.*? ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_Reciprocity

Posted by: squire at January 10, 2007 1:50 PM

Don't you love this? "Allah" amends his commands, which essentially turns his initial word into meaningless prattle. How much of the Quran is rendered thus because of a second "revelation" that comes about due to circumstances that make the first inconvenient?...
Posted by: yohannbiimu

An astute observation...inconvenient to who??? Why Mohammad of course. Allahs word is eternal, he never changes his mind, except for Mohammad. For Mohammad, Allah will make himself out a liar, or at least a vassilating god, that cant make up its mind what it means. For Mohammad, Allah will do most anything.
Allah and Mohammad are one and the same. Allah is Mohammads demon, who is alive and well in the hearts of muslims to this day. Allah/Mohammad is a psuedo 'living god', he only gets his life by possessing the hearts and minds of submitters... He does this in the 'now', vampiring the life energy of those who submit to him. Sounds a lot like Dracula. And like Dracula, Allah cant stand the light, not of truth anyway. Mohammads inconvenience has been a death sentence for many. It is time to bannish the demon by subjecting it to the light of truth.
Keep firing those 'truth' bullets. Allahs resistance is strong, but his shield is thin...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 10, 2007 2:29 PM

The Russians and Chinese are masters of dealing with murderers and terrorists.
I wish America would do the same as those nations when dealing with mass murderers, oops.....I mean muslims.
Posted by: Hungarian Crusader

I agree, HC. We need to bring back Vlad the Impaler to deal with these islamic brutes. And the Serbs need to stay in Kosovo so that it doesn't go moslem at Europe's door.

We all need to stand together. There is no room for moslems in Europe. If they wish to be de-programmed from this evil cult then we could consider taking them in so as to protect them from persecution at home.

De-nazification worked in Germany so why can't de-islamization work?

Unfortunately it seems the Germans still think they can legislate thinking.. from what Sheik yer Mami wrote in another post they want to outlaw speaking negatively [how vague] about other religions. We all know what this is tailored for. Angela Merkel better not be in on this or the voters will go further to the "right" - as long as voting remains a *secret* process of course.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 10, 2007 2:34 PM

Apparently that part of the Koran is in writing and the rest is in comic book pictures as no Muslim aka terrorist has ever read them.
Must mean they are all illiterate.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at January 10, 2007 2:35 PM

"The captors are even obligated to give their prisoner a feeling of friendship"

I guess that means that that any and all Jihadi kidnappers can exploit the well known Stockholm Syndrome in order to convert their captives ...

.. of course duress" is prohibited under Sharia Law ...

Posted by: drk at January 10, 2007 2:37 PM

I forgot to mention - whenever I am reading history it is always "accept islam or die" ... not "well if we keep you here for a couple of months under the constant threat of death - you might just convert" ( like it always appears in MSM)- as though it was a voluntary option or something ...

"Al Andaluz" - they want it back - but it didn't belong to them start with ...

Posted by: drk at January 10, 2007 2:43 PM

I know, I know, you think I misspelled 'vacillating' (vassilating). Not really, its code. It means that Islams swell treatment of captured soldiers is defined by what Islams attitude is, which may not match up to what is normally accepted as civilized behavior.

Posted by: duh_swami at January 10, 2007 2:51 PM

Marwan's Daughter - I believe that in our two wars with Iraq 100% of U.S. female pows were raped.

Posted by: MP at January 10, 2007 3:50 PM

"The captors are even obligated to give their prisoner a feeling of friendship," added Darvish, who said it was legitimate to hold a prisoner of war until the hostilities were resolved."

This usually means pushing, constantly, constantly, trying to convince them to convert.

Posted by: allat at January 10, 2007 4:22 PM

Marwan's Daughter - I believe that in our two wars with Iraq 100% of U.S. female pows were raped. Posted by: MP

You believe wrong. The truth about Islam is bad enough without discrediting yourself and our side by making up lies.

Name me one female POW. In fact name me one POW period in either invasion of Iraq.

Jessica Lynch was not raped, and in fact the whole story about her was a Hollywood production put on at the behest of the administration, including the "raid" on the hospital.

Creating myths, telling lies, spewing propaganda hurts, not helps the cause, and the cause of anti Jihad is valid and worthwhile.

Posted by: Nariz at January 10, 2007 4:25 PM

How does Islam require POWs to be treated?

......tjey don't want POWs , only converts or bodies.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 10, 2007 4:58 PM

MeanieMo said

We need to bring back Vlad the Impaler to deal with these islamic brutes.

From everybody's favorite resource, wikipedia:

More than anything else, Vlad III Ţepeş is known for his exceeding cruelty. Impalement was Ţepeş's preferred method of torture and execution. His method of torture was a horse attached to each of the victim's legs as a sharpened stake was gradually forced into the body. The end of the stake was usually oiled, and care was taken that the stake not be too sharp; else the victim might die too rapidly from shock. Normally the stake was inserted into the body through the anus and was often forced through the body until it emerged from the mouth. However, there were many instances where victims were impaled through other bodily orifices or through the abdomen or chest. Infants were sometimes impaled on the stake forced through their mother's chests. The records indicate that victims were sometimes impaled so that they hung upside down on the stake. As expected, death by impalement was slow and painful. Victims sometimes endured for hours or days. Vlad often had the stakes arranged in various geometric patterns. The most common pattern was a ring of concentric circles in the outskirts of a city that constituted his target. The height of the spear indicated the rank of the victim. The corpses were often left decaying for months.

Vlad did fight against the Ottomans, but that's not how he got the name "Impaler". He used impalement against his domestic political rivals.

I'd prefer not to walk down streets lined with my fellow American's bodies impaled on stakes, but that's just me.

Instead of looking to Vlad the Impaler, I'd prefer to look to Thomas Jefferson and our other founding fathers, who recognized the violence of Islam, and who knew how to stand up to it without turning their own nation into a shop of horrors.

Posted by: special_guest at January 10, 2007 5:17 PM

From the article

What did the Palestinian Resistance Committee (PRC) mean when it stated that kidnapped soldier Cpl. Gilad Shalit, "is being treated according to Islamic standards of dealing with prisoners of war?"

That's what we're all afraid of, for his sake. After 1,350 years of experience, we all know what "Islamic standards" are. From the preceding article about Vlad the Impaler:

Upon reading the message [about the arrival of Turkish troops], Vlad's wife flung herself off the tower into a tributary of the Argeş River flowing below the castle. According to legend she remarked that she "would rather have her body rot and be eaten by the fish of the Argeş than be led into captivity by the Turks."

She knew "Islamic standards" for the treatment of prisoners, back in the 1400's. This was 500 years before the founding of the modern state of Israel, the supposed excuse for Islamic violence all over the world.

Posted by: special_guest at January 10, 2007 5:39 PM

In "I Am a Soldier Too", the authorized biography (Jessica Lynch) written by best selling author, Rick Bragg....according to Bragg, Lynch's Medical records indicate she was anally raped....
Also check out Major Rhonda Cornum, one of 2 American pow's of the First Gulf War.
Narizzzzzzz

Posted by: MP at January 10, 2007 6:00 PM

Muslims have shown our poor people no mercy and as such they deserve none. Either take no muslim prisoners on the battlefield or make their imprisonment a real living hell on earth. Screw the Geneva convention. They don't obey it and, as such, are not protected by it.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 10, 2007 6:41 PM

"Name me one female POW. In fact name me one POW period in either invasion of Iraq."

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Name me one female POW?

ALL THE WOMEN BORN INTO ISLAM!

Posted by: allat at January 10, 2007 8:21 PM

Islamofascism - well worth the read. The West better wake-up, and quick!

http://www.usavoice.org/NEWS/Article.cfm?ID=3711&CID=17&T=Islamofascism

Posted by: pad at January 10, 2007 10:14 PM

Nariz sez:

"Creating myths, telling lies, spewing propaganda hurts, not helps the cause, and the cause of anti Jihad is valid and worthwhile."

Ah, well if this is true then why is it that far more often than not, you are spewing nothing but loads of partisan BS aimed squarely at non-Muslims who have no association with jihadists?

As usual, you accuse others of what you yourself commit on a regular basis. Also, if "the cause of anti Jihad is valid and worthwhile," then why do you talk so little about it? You do as much harm to "the cause" here as any Muslim troll.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at January 10, 2007 10:52 PM

duh_Swami- very good point- God's word is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, and never changes because He is infallible- but evidently, the god of the Muslims holy prophet Muhammad isn't quite as infallible and needs to keep updating his word? Just saying

http://sacredscoop.com

Posted by: CottShop at January 11, 2007 12:03 AM

"How does Islam require POWs to be treated?"

This link has some information.

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/moghal_atro.html

Posted by: arjun.sevak at January 11, 2007 3:41 AM

"Name me one female POW. In fact name me one POW period in either invasion of Iraq."

----------I will give you two that come to mind, Jessica Lynch and Shoshana Johnson. (both since rescued).... Both were wounded, both were sexually assaulted by their captors and neither converted to Islam.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 6:58 AM

' "As for the captives, the amir has the choice of taking the most beneficial action of four possibilities: the first, to put them to death by cutting their necks; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws of slavery regarding their sale or manumission; the third, to ransom them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to them and pardon them." '

"Beneficial"? For whom?

Posted by: Vee at January 11, 2007 9:23 AM

This is how Islam treat their P.O.Ws:

http://www.dafka.org/mmslist.htm

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at January 11, 2007 11:45 AM

Disclaimer:

If you have a weak stomach please do not view the above link. It is graphic...

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at January 11, 2007 11:47 AM

Oh, but you forgot the most important Islamic law, that is "you can lie as often as you want !"

Posted by: Jeff at January 11, 2007 10:17 PM