Sending them home is fine, sending them home in a body bag is better...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 10:07 AM

Couldn't just explain they were found run over by a truck along the roadside while setting out IEDs? Or it's an awful big country, lots of lawlessness, just don't be stupid and use an American bullet on them. Or drug them and implant a bug/gps locator, or just send them back and credit them with spilling the beans about Iranian operations a week or two later, that would take care of them.

Posted by: Catawhumpus at January 11, 2007 10:40 AM

during Bush's speech, US military took over Iranian consulate near the border of Iraq/iran and captured the office's computers, files, and iranian office people. hopefully they will be fully interigated before they are handed over. so dont totally write off the US military. l hope the changes in command produces better results, and less restrictions on the US military.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 11, 2007 10:41 AM

Iran is a true foe, but we have no quarel with Syria. Enough of starting fights with false enemies already (just like attacking Iraq-Saddam was good for the US).

Posted by: george_rem at January 11, 2007 10:45 AM

Speaking of Somalia, I told you not to get excited about that terrorist guy being reportedly killed...

Posted by: george_rem at January 11, 2007 10:50 AM

No doubt the monkey man in Tehran will soon respond with more absurd gibberish and chest thumping. Right now he's probably yawning over this latest "threat"-I know I would be if I were him.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 11, 2007 11:22 AM

I am not about to "get excited" about anything in terms of our government doing the right thing regarding policies against those who would destroy all of civilization as we know it. Our nation's capital is populated by dumkoffs and traitors. If I could have my way with Washington DC for one year, I'd purge the whole lot of them and start over. The hundreds of idiots in our congress and the current administration are going to be the death of us all. Nary a one of them have the slightest clue of what is really going on in the world.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at January 11, 2007 12:09 PM

Off topic but pertinent

1,000 Soldiers in Iraq file a petition for redress with congress

SGT. RONN CANTU: All I really want to say, because I shouldn’t be doing this -- all I want to say is, right now American soldiers are dying in a Sunni-Shiite civil war, a sectarian civil war -- that’s a fact, based on my personal observations. Soldiers’ hands are tied to defend themselves. Every time a soldier fires his weapon, he has to sign paperwork making sure it was justified. I want to stress that soldiers want to go on the offensive, but everything we’re doing here is on the defense. And it’s a belief of the soldiers I’ve talked to that any troop increase over here, it’s just going to be more sitting ducks, more targets.

Everything we’re doing is reactive. People go out on patrols, and they're sitting ducks until somebody strikes first. There was a story relayed to me by somebody I know -- I don’t want to give his name -- a soldier was shot in the face, and nobody fired back, because they couldn’t see where it was coming from. That’s what this has come down to, and that’s just plain fact. I’m sorry, [inaudible] --

AMY GOODMAN: Sergeant Cantu, can you explain the Appeal for Redress that you’ve signed?

SGT. RONN CANTU: All it is is a -- it’s just that one of the rights that soldiers have is the right to communicate unfettered with their elected member of Congress, and it’s just about a troop withdrawal. I mean, the Appeal for Redress website is pretty straightforward. If anybody’s in there, very straightforward.

And from Sami Rasoul, an Iraqi American in Najaf, more troops mean more resistance, and given the testimony of Sergeant Cantu, more dead Americans because our troops hands are tied and they can't shoot back, because it upsets the Iraqi government of al Maliki/al Sadr/al Hakim/al Sistani (all of whom, incidentally are Shi'ite.

This does not make sense Bush is wasting America to defend and support an Iranian regime (the Government of Iraq).

In other new Hamas appeared to break new ground Wednesday over its stance on recognizing Israel. In an interview with the Reuters news agency, exiled Hamas political leader Khaled Meshal said Hamas sees Israel as a ‘reality’ that exists. Meshal suggested formal recognition of Israel would come if Israel agreed to recognize a Palestinian state.

Hamas political leader Khaled Meshal: “This is reality but I do not deal with it from the point of view of recognizing or admitting it. It is a fact that was the result of historical factors. We today are talking of Arab and Palestinian readiness to accept a state on 1967 borders on the assumption that this will provide an important amount of stability and peace in the region. The question is: Is there Israeli, American and international readiness to admit this Palestinian demand?"

Of course this is all an obfuscating ploy as Hamas still refuses to recognizing Israel, all Meshal said is that they accept a historical fact, and why should Israel accept a 1967 border. The Arabs attacked in 1973 and lost, and Israel needs the 1973 borders to ensure it's tenuous security.

Posted by: Nariz at January 11, 2007 12:17 PM

The only thing the Iranians will understand is a "in your face" threat of brute force.

Posted by: sounder at January 11, 2007 12:26 PM

@ ZenaWarriorPrincess

Here's the link to the BBC article about the US storming the Iranian consulate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6251167.stm

THIS gets me more excited than the President's warnings. Also that we've deployed another carrier group to the region. (I think there's two there now).

Something's in the wind there, but I didn't have enough coffee to connect the dots yet.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at January 11, 2007 12:31 PM

"Hamas sees Israel as a ‘reality’ that exists. Meshal suggested formal recognition of Israel would come if Israel agreed to recognize a Palestinian state."

.....THEY have to admit that Israel "exists," but only temporarily in the minds of the Muslims. Formal recognition of Israel will come when Israel either surrenders or dies......

....Hama and the various other affiliated groups continue to openly vow to the destruction of Israel......This man is just blowing smoke.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 12:32 PM

Bism Allaah

"The only thing the Iranians will understand is a "in your face" threat of brute force."

On Iran's behalf... BRING IT ON!!!

Posted by: sheikhabdullah at January 11, 2007 12:48 PM

THE WAR PRESIDENT LIVES FOREVER

Okay, I get it. We fight with everyone at once! The Sunnis hate our plan and hate us and the Shiites hate us and our plan but we can fight them indefinitely.

We can just fight and fight and if it becomes a regional conflagration with a nuclear dimension, well that's good because the 2008 Presidential election will be called off and our "WAR PRESIDENT" will get a third term.

It's all good!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at January 11, 2007 12:54 PM

"Sami Rasouli, an Iraqi-American who grew up in Najaf. He left in the late 1970s and eventually moved to the United States. In November 2004, nearly 30 years after leaving Iraq, Sami returned home to help rebuild his country. He is currently a member of the Muslim Peacemakers Team in Najaf"

.......If he considers himself a American, his life will be short Najaf....If he considers himself Iraqi-American and he is allowed to roam in Najaf, then he is affiliated to organizations whose main goal is to kill Americans.....

...Najaf is similiar to Karbala, Hadithah,Ar Ramadi, An Najaf, Samarra and others...places that kill all who strive for peace or wear the uniform of America or Iraq.....

As always, when reading, learn all about the source. Do not believe anything unless you know it to be true or you have done your homework.....

....Muslim Peacekeeping Team....Indeed....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 1:04 PM

Scary stuff! KILL those terrorist monkees!

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
slaughter your enemy...

see a job worth doing
it's a job worth doing right
.

Posted by: USpace at January 11, 2007 1:18 PM

President George Bush has undertaken an epoch-old problem of suppressing the barbarian invasion of a new dark age, an age darker than centuries past when the crusaders under Pope Urban II advanced against the Islamic tribes of the middle east. Only difference beween today and yesteryear is that then Christianity was united in its frontal attack and prayed as they went into battle with their rosaries to the Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary and Mother of Jesus Christ.

Today, Christianity is splintered and will never win without such heavenly direction in prayer of both the rosary and the most holy sacrifice of the Mass. Christianity must reunite again in prayer and arms and then it will experience again the wondrous victory of another Lepanto over Islam, a false religion that worships a false god of violence, intolerance, and hatred of their fellow man -- totally unlike the Prince of Peace Jesus Christ!

This will only be achieved if we follow another great pope who has faced off against this dark age of new and more vicious barbarism: Pope Benedict XVI. Let us follow him into battle with the most holy sacrifice of the Mass, the renewal of Christ's pefect prayer on the cross to save all mankind from its sins and which is offered everyday by Catholic priests throughout the world. In hoc signo vinces! For more, see...

http://www.theorthodoxromancatholic.com

Posted by: j hughes dunphy at January 11, 2007 1:19 PM

Actually no, I think there is something on the cards now, you work on the basis of trying not to be seen as the bad guy to that mythical beast the moderate Muslims, we catch them red handed, though we could have done it ages ago, even the left is aware of Iranian involvement, you pull their tail a bit and put a little pressure on, they either blink or make that mistake, the pressure is on. Also the Saudi's almost seem to be begging the USA to do something about Iran. Oil prices are down, marvellous.

I think that a number of attacks on the West will occur soon.

Posted by: Daffersd at January 11, 2007 1:21 PM

Something's in the wind there, but I didn't have enough coffee to connect the dots yet.
Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer

it seems that Kurds have allowed iranians to enter their area, so much for having kurds on the US side.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 11, 2007 1:21 PM

Although, actions do speak louder than words, I was encouraged that Bush used the term "radical Islam" more than "terror" last night.

It appears that Bush will force Maliki's hand to disarm Sadr or else get out of our way. Exactly what will be done to Syria and especially Iran remains to be seen. The less specific tactical information the better. We don't need the weepy media setting up shop to relay all the "atrocities" that will most assuredly be committed by the US in the near future. In their eyes we're supposed to win a war without actually killing anyone.

In reality, the war stretches well outside Iraq's borders as we already know. The Islamists are everywhere you look. The specific short-term gains of a decisive US military victory in Iraq is speculative. The long-term gain of finally beginning to properly identify the enemy, is invaluable. You cannot wage a successful military campaign against an undefined enemy. The war against the tactic known as "terror" just isn't up to snuff.

Posted by: awake at January 11, 2007 1:23 PM

"You cannot wage a successful military campaign against an undefined enemy."

....the problem is .. the enemy dresses in shabby, baggy and ugly clothes and prefer to be called civilians....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 1:42 PM

Bush is now absolutely determined to save his butt with regards to Iraq.

And he is probably going to do a great job doing that.

But as far as anything else else is concerned (like trouble brewing on the homefront), fuhgeddabout it....

This guy appears totally determined to do absolutely nothing about everything else.

Welcome to the new Moonbat States of America.

I mean when terrorists can get elected here (as they now have in the case of Ellison).....

Posted by: pythagoras at January 11, 2007 1:47 PM

Speak Out Against Iran's Holocaust Denial to UN

Iran's envoy to the UN Human Rights Council has just sent the Council a letter asserting that Holocaust denial is a permissible informational and academic endeavor. Make your voice heard: Send a message to the Council President and the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights urging them to reject Iran's misuse of human rights principles to try to justify denying this historic tragedy.

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Posted by: Malinois at January 11, 2007 1:48 PM

All I really want to say, because I shouldn’t be doing this -- all I want to say is, right now American soldiers are dying in a Sunni-Shiite civil war, a sectarian civil war -- that’s a fact, based on my personal observations. Soldiers’ hands are tied to defend themselves. Every time a soldier fires his weapon, he has to sign paperwork making sure it was justified. I want to stress that soldiers want to go on the offensive, but everything we’re doing here is on the defense. And it’s a belief of the soldiers I’ve talked to that any troop increase over here, it’s just going to be more sitting ducks, more targets.

Don't know if this specific communication is real; but I do know of people in forward positions right now, that say the same kinds of things.

I do not believe our combat forces should face courtmarshalls for trying to defend themselves when they get home. Twist, and turn, and spin around, and re-define; I say it's WRONG!

I also believe that this individual will probably be brought up on some kind of charges for his attempted redress; the extra "twenty" ain't gonna cut it.

Posted by: witness at January 11, 2007 1:59 PM

Don't get too excited? It's a Heck of a lot more than the stinkin democrats have EVER proposed-

Pythagaros- 'save his butt'? Saddam was toppled- a democracy has been established. I'd say job over- now the effort is to keep the peace while the nation hammers out the new democracy in blood. Every democracy starts that way-

"These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated. Thomas Paine, “The Crisis”, December 23rd, 1776"

Http://sacredscoop.com

Posted by: CottShop at January 11, 2007 2:06 PM

Bush warns Syria and Iran when its been reported by Stephen Schwartz that the Saudi's are financing the Insurgents and have lost as many servicemen as we have. Bush ought to be told they are not our ally but our Enemy.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=533079

Posted by: paulc37 at January 11, 2007 2:18 PM

I am more concerned about the warnings issued by Muslim cleric.. usually when they promise death, it comes.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 11, 2007 2:18 PM

Hey Cottshop, big words for a chickenhawk.

Now put your money and ass where your mouth is, join the Army as an infantryman and volunteer for IED and sniper fodder in Iraq.

Ahh... don't want to sacrifice your sweet arse do you, well then shut the fark up about sending others to their death in the name of some etheric ideology, the expression of which is only a propagandistic ruse..hollow words without meaning.

There can be no democracy in the land of Islam, because democracy is unIslamic.. and regardless of who wins in Iraq (or any Muslim land) we, the west, lose.

Can you get that through your irresponsible, immature, ideological, jingoistic head?

I doubt it.

I don't think you care about anything, not our treasure, not the lives of our children, except your "team" and your beloved irrational ideology.

Posted by: Nariz at January 11, 2007 2:31 PM

Waste of troops: trying to build "democracy(ies)" instead of defending the United States with aggressive and preemptive actions.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 11, 2007 3:47 PM

Hey, anyone else have more info on the report I saw on Jawa? It linked to this:
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2007/01/breaking-news-nuclear-event-in-iran.html

Very interesting...

Posted by: EricInTexas at January 11, 2007 3:56 PM

EricInTexas ,
where did you see the report?

Posted by: Patriot8 at January 11, 2007 4:49 PM

forget it,i found it

Posted by: Patriot8 at January 11, 2007 4:50 PM

Cott Shop:

There will never be any democracy in the Middle east or any other part of Islamia because Islam fundamentally opposes democratic principles. So Bush is losing on this one before he even started.

Bush may finally have figured this out--finally (we hope).

Saddam was toppled three years ago. But there was never ANY reason to believe that Iraqis would welcome America and of course they have NOT.

Muslims do not believe in freedom. Therefore it is NOT possible to liberate them unless they are de-Isalamized.

Unfortunately, there is no reason to believe the Bush adminstration has progressed this far in thei rthinking; I doubt even the pentagon understands that Islam and democracy don't mix.

So America is trapped in an unwinnable situation: trying to make a democracy out of a staunchly Islamic society where totalitarian beliefs have held the human mind captive for over 15 centuries and show no sign of fading away anytime soon.

So, yes. Bush is going to continue banging his head against the wall all the while making it look politically palatable to cover his derriere. And by staying in that Middle East hellhole we may avert another terror attack here (but not necessarily).

ps-Saddam DID have WMDs. However, ALL Islamic countries are potentially very, very dangerous which is something most of us didn't know in 2003.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 12, 2007 2:24 PM