Pelosi says, "Since September 11, many Muslim Americans have been subjected to searches at airports and other locations based upon their religion and national origin. We must make it illegal."

This is the worst news I've heared in a long long time. Making it a crime to profile muslims is EXACTLY the same as making it illegal to search any muslim. CAIR will sue every single time someone is searched, regardless of the situation.

*sigh* We're doomed.

Posted by: Goob at January 12, 2007 5:30 AM

I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view. It is quite a different matter with Conyers and of course with Ellison.

Posted by: Hugh at January 12, 2007 5:48 AM

I too have been subjected to these searches. My self not being muslim or a terrorist, I am waiting for this legislation as I will immediately launch my lawsuit, the grounds, I have been unduly harassed at the airport as a result of muslims first hijacking planes and later flying them into buildings. I want my rights back, but that won’t happen. I would advise every American to file discrimination suits if they try this terrorist bill of rights. perishi and her city SF, don’t want the military around and the police don’t even care if choir boys are beat up. Conyers hails from the American version of iraq, his state is so pathetic it leads the nation in traitors(followed closely by SF). However, they have shown that they do embrace these friendly new immigrants, and are willing to do anything to appease them. That said how many out there see America in the conyers or perishi light? Yep, just as I thought, none, you would have to want us dead pretty bad to come up with this idea. Im not disappointed or dejected, it is a fight for our lives and it is obvious who the enemy is. Here’s an idea, lets throw a party for both their constituencies, put them together in the same area and watch the fireworks begin. Perverts, traitors and scumbags, oh my.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 6:07 AM

Now will Pelosi accept responsibility if a terrorists bomb blows a fully-laden passenger airliner apart, and it gets discovered that the culprit - a Muslim Arab - was waved through whilst the elderly Christian couple in front of him were frisked. This is the sort of scenario political correctness is inviting. If Muslims are so unhappy in the West, it is time to kick out permanently this vile terrorism-enabling and perpetrating fifth column.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at January 12, 2007 6:10 AM

Nancy Pelosi, Keith Ellison, and John Conyers have themselves become security risks as far as I'm concerned. And Pelosi sounds like a spokesman for CAIR. This political correctness has got to be stopped.

Posted by: Joseph at January 12, 2007 6:16 AM

Oops, I meant "spokesperson."

Posted by: Joseph at January 12, 2007 6:19 AM

... restoration of American citizen’s civil liberties that have come under increasing attack over the past six years.

Yeah, like where these Moslems TSA workers go through my laptop case and won't let me carry shaving cream on flights. And I especially hate the part where I have to take off my shoes.

But, to talk profiling, we gotta talk amount the 6 Imams. They were profiled as victims and were thus not prosecuted for blatantly violating federal law a couple of months ago.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 6:41 AM

There was a gentleman quoted on Powerline, as saying the only way the Democrats will ever get serious about islamic terrorism, is if they get the White House in 2008, And control of both houses (but not sure if he included the Judiciary).

In one sense, I think he is correct:

The only way they are going to get serious is when all their idiotic ideas fail, people are dying in large numbers, and the country is under seige. And with them and ONLY them in charge, there will be no one else to blame, and no one else to solve the problem.

Just not sure I want to see the first part happen, let alone the second part...

Posted by: Gary at January 12, 2007 6:47 AM

Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.
--- Koran 9:5

By this passage, every observant Moslem indirectly confesses to being, if not an active terrorist, at least a pro-terrorist.

Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.
--- Koran 9:5

This passage proves Islam to be a violent political ideology and not a religion.

These are the bitter fruit of our earnest pursuit of Fictive Reality of Islam. It would be career suicide to quote this passage in a public discourse on this scum ideology.

What happened again at Murrah? At the Jayhawk vs. Sooner game?

I wonder how many other Jihad terror wars have been silenced much as the two Koranic passages above have been silenced.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 6:49 AM

Gary, that is exactly what Rush said on his radio program yesterday, as when a Democrat president leads a war, the Republicans will back them for the good of the country, where as you see the Demoncrats are looking at all ways for sabotaging the presidency just so they can gain power. look at the flip flops coming from Biden and company, they keptsaying not enough soldiers in iraq, and now against it. these democrats are spineless traitors.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 12, 2007 6:52 AM

Get serious? These folks are in a galaxy far far away.
Heres a little clip of just how myopic these dems actually are.
http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2007/01/11/rep-david-wu-hero-of-kittimer/
Now, if you will excuse me I think I smelled Vader at my door, time to go hide under the bed.

We of this country are the siege-ers not the siege-ees.

And lets not forget…
As for one who disbelieves, we will Fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 6:58 AM

Now is the time to LOAD the inboxes of our representaitives to tell them that we will not stand for a rollback in our security based on the asinine doctrine of PCness.

I just came back on a business trip (flying US AIRWAYS of course--the airline that said NO to the flying imams). It was "confirming" to me that Americans are understanding the threat and to see HOW MANY citizens want profiling and extra scrutinization of those from the groups who have committed the attrocities.

Please post for us the links to the congressional email boxes, the phone numbers and the call to demand for them to protect us from those who would gut the patriot act and stop profiling before we have the next 911 event.

Posted by: BB at January 12, 2007 7:03 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Nancy talks about "correcting the patriot act" with Keith Ellison's help.

If they succeed (which Inshallah they will)...then this single act will be more devastating to the common folk of the Amerike then several 9/11s put together.

It will be equivelent to starting to cut down the kaffur at his knees.

If this succeeds you can guarantee your bottom dollar that even more important initatives will follow.

"A rolling stone gathers no moss"...but a rolling muslim gathers lots of kaffur....live with it ...what else is to be done anyway....the future is the ISA.

Posted by: Naseem at January 12, 2007 7:04 AM

Naseem, for once I think I actually agree with you. I can't believe I just said that.
Coffee.... I need Coffee....

Posted by: guest worker at January 12, 2007 7:17 AM

"Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view"

.......Just what you should come to expect from a far leftist moonbat......

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 7:18 AM

BB,
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

All said and done this kind of stuff is the best thing that can happen to anti-jihadists. I am even hearing mothers and grandmothers starting to voice their grave concerns. The word is spreading thanks to them, should I send them a Christmas card next year? How wonderful it is to live in the USA today, and that’s no joke.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 7:19 AM

"but a rolling muslim gathers lots of kaffur"

...and leaves a slimey trail....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 7:19 AM

"I am waiting for this legislation as I will immediately launch my lawsuit, ""

...Hey neat idea...I could open a legal office kiosk at the airport, complete with all the paperwork necessary to begin legal proceedings... I could make a lot of money......

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 7:24 AM

can somebody explaining how "profiling" work?

and how we can deal with the fact that there could be westerners converted or poor non-muslim arabs?

Posted by: StillFedUp

Yes, you make a good point. But we have to do the best we can. No?

Posted by: Motor City Madman at January 12, 2007 7:25 AM

"It will be equivelent to starting to cut down the kaffur at his knees. "

...or at least, below the belt....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 7:26 AM

"can somebody explaining how "profiling" work?"

..everybody flies naked.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 7:28 AM

The next time a terrorist atrocity like 9/11 occurs thanks to the treasonous efforts of Pelosi, Conyers, Ellison, etc I hope these pigs are literally dragged out of Congress and hung from the nearest lamp posts. They would deserve nothing less for such a betrayal of the nation.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 12, 2007 7:42 AM

I will try,
Ok, you have a certain crime or crimes, and you have a list of convicted criminals for that crime/crimes. Now compare the second list and see if there are any special characteristics or similarities that the criminals share, race, creed ,color, religion, sex, location, timing. Use your imagination the possibilities are limitless. Profiling is nothing more than using your brain to reason. Profiling = Reasoning = Bad? Ok, where’s Orwell?

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 7:47 AM

"Profiling = Reasoning = Bad? Ok, where’s Orwell"?

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 07:47 AM

To expect reason from that bunch is like expecting
the world to stop spinning on its axis. Or to expect Muslims to disband their cult of death. It is simply impossible.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 12, 2007 7:54 AM

The Israelis, who know a thing or two about protecting airline and bus passengers from terrorists, don't profile on "race"; they profile on behaviour.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 12, 2007 7:59 AM

oh naseem islamist blood is cheap, l just heard that the US and its allied forces killed over 157 taliban paks just before they tried to get in the land pakcesspoolstan. the media never tells how well the US military kills off you taliban paks. yeah islamist is cheaper by the dozen, lol that will teach those that want to come into afgansitan to kill and pillage the countryside, they get sent off to allah land, aka hell.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 12, 2007 8:02 AM

...The times, they are a-changing....

Recent news contains many signs that the world is beginning to right the ship.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 8:13 AM

Ellison said in a statement: “I look forward to pursuing a progressive agenda in the committee, including the restoration of American citizen’s civil liberties that have come under increasing attack over the past six years.”
----- from the article

Congressman Ellison, why only the last 6 years?Why not restore the liberties lost by Americans over a period many times longer than 6 years? Let's restore the liberties taken by OSHA, FPA, the RICO laws, the ADA, "affirmative action", minority set-asides in gov't contracts, EEOC, minority quotas in hiring and admissions, various regional zoning laws, and the take-overs of public-school systems by the federal courts,
to name just a few off the top of my head. All of these were pushed thru by Democratic Congresses.
Another question for the congressman: why is "profiling" bad, when "norming" was good?

Posted by: ebonystone at January 12, 2007 8:19 AM

This comes from Neal Boortz and I thought it was priceless and I would like to share:

MY GOD! THE ARROGANCE!

Yesterday I opened my show -- a portion of my show that most of you don't hear -- with a bit of a rant about a story in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. It seems that a British historian was arrested for jaywalking in Atlanta. To make matters worse, he wasn't detained and "taken down," as it were, by a uniformed Atlanta police officer, but by an off-duty cop who was working as a security guard at a nearby hotel. At first my sympathies were with the Brit. After all, it's hard to forget the Atlanta woman who was body-slammed by a cop at the airport a few years ago. Now, after reading this column written by the historian, I'm ready to buy that cop/security guard some lunch.

The professor has this to say about our his experience as it relates to our country and our president:

"I have long known, as any reasonable person must, that the courts are the citizen's only protection against a rogue executive and rationally uncontrolled security forces. Though my own misadventure was trivial – and in perspective laughable – it resembles what is happening to the world in the era of George W. Bush. The planet is policed by a violent, arbitrary, stupid and dangerous force. Within the USA, the courts struggle to maintain individual rights under the bludgeons of the "war on terror," defending Guantanamo victims and striving to curb the excesses of the system. We need global institutions of justice, and judges of Judge Jackson's level of humanity and wisdom, to help protect the world."

So .. there you are. "The planet is policed by a violent, arbitrary, stupid and dangerous force." And what would that force be? Why, the United States, of course! No mention of the threat of Islamic fascism. No mention of the violent, arbitrary and dangerous nature of flying airplanes into office buildings. In fact, Professor Frail puts scare quotes around his reference to the war on terror, so as to say that he doesn't really believe that there is any terrorism to be fought! Then he goes on to say that what we really need is some sort of an international court to protect the world from the United States.

Some historian. Perhaps he doesn't remember the role of the United States in saving his precious Europe from Hitler and Soviet expansionism.

Now none of Professor Historian's arrogance and seeming hatred of the United States .. and most certainly of George Bush .. would be a sufficient excuse for an Atlanta cop to throw him to the ground and arrest him for jaywalking; but you are left wondering just what this man said to the cop to provoke such an action. I think that we all know that a simple "I'm sorry, officer, I'll be more careful the next time" would have been more than sufficient. Clearly it escalated beyond that. Is it possible that the good professor used some of his "George Bush is Stupid, America is violent, dangerous and arbitrary" nonsense on the cop?

Yesterday I had to chose sides .. between a member of European academia and an Atlanta Cop. I chose the wrong side. For that I apologize. I should have known better.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 8:25 AM

"I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view."
Posted by: Hugh at January 12, 2007 05:48 AM

Agreed. Let's just hope that you are correct and she is not as big a dhimmi as we think her to be.

Posted by: awake at January 12, 2007 8:30 AM

I guess what will have to happen will be similar to the local citizens taking it upon themselves to monitor the Mexican border.
Maybe a little citizen involvement tiying up the already slow lines at the airports would get some attention.

One thing good about the juicyness of the Dem vs Pres. fight is the press is monitoring the bills going through Congress with a lot more vigilance than in the past. They won't be able to sneak as much past.

Plus, God Bless Bloggers. It is so obvious the MSM is using them for sourcing.
Think about it, when a law enforcement group investigates something, there are maybe two or four people thinking up angles to check out. With the enormous size of the blogging community each one thinking up different angles to check it multiplies the possibility of catching someone with their proverbial "pants down". CAIR, Ellison, Conyers, Pelosi, Obama, et al are being srcutinized with a lot of magnifying glasses

Posted by: auntbea at January 12, 2007 8:34 AM

Assalamau Laikum Zena,

Back to cheap scoring points are we. You can "dispatch" as many Taliban as you like...it does not affect the issue on this thread....which is the threat to YOU not the threat to ME.

I have already been living with the "threat" for a couple of decades while Kaffur like you have been watching and possibly gloating from a distance.

The threat to me possibly maybe physical but essentially "appropriate" laws for Islamisation have already been passed...while no one was looking...and this is the framework that I live in.

The threat to you is that your living framework may change. Currently, the fight is mainly ideological...i.e. the fight is one for changing Amerike law appropriately...as it does not favour the implementation of Sharia...i.e. the constitution does not sit well with Islam. I think though that the constitution could be amended ...and you will see creeping sharia.

The law of the land is there to suit the majority...and when this is Islam...then the law must have many tenets of Sharia embedded in it....this is logical for a society to remain intact and coherent. So I think that the Amerike will remain safe until that point.

Apart from immigration, conversion etc...changes in law to favour Islam remains a major way forward for muslims. Keith Ellison is one in congress but with help from Nancy, Conyers....muslim voice gets bigger ...and if you include the leftists ...it gets much bigger.

If the law changes "appropriately" then the physical fighting may begin...In later years whether you get home grown Taliban in the US remains to be seen.... if your security forces kill 157 in the US...THEN your comment will be relevent.....until then, it's a waiting game....chill with your cat for now!

Posted by: Naseem at January 12, 2007 8:39 AM

Professor Historian,
Maybe he’s related to Cornwallis. Still angry after all these centurys.
http://www.americanrevolution.com/SurrenderCornwallis.htm

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 8:39 AM

ebonystone made a point that had not really occurred to me until just now. As a white male, I am profiled every day. In hiring practices, college admissions, job promotions, etc.

If it's good enough to profile me then why not Muslims?

Posted by: Motor City Madman at January 12, 2007 8:46 AM

" Keith Ellison is one in congress but with help from Nancy, Conyers....muslim voice gets bigger ...and if you include the leftists ...it gets much bigger."

...TRUE, TRUE.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 8:51 AM

Naseem is making some excellent arguments to stop Muslim immigration altogether. For if the majority of Muslims think as she does we're in deep doodoo if we don't.

Posted by: Marissa at January 12, 2007 8:54 AM

WELL MR CONYERS....."The policies of the Bush administration,” he has declared, “have sent a wave of fear through our immigrant communities and targeted our Arab and Muslim neighbors.”
...........

...........THEY CERTAINLY have been targeting us...not only with rhetoric and religious theory...but with real bullets and bombs....SIR...

You have heard of IRAQ? ISLAM? TERROR INCIDENTS?

Are you, MR Conyers, sitting on your thumb????

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 9:04 AM

"I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view."

Hugh l am not surprized in the least, a looney leftist that she is, Pelosi and her comrades always
hide their real intentions when running for elections. If they told the US citizens what they really stood for, they would have a much more difficult time to be elected. According to several pundis, most Democrats ran on very conservative values, especially if their seats were close. even the twit in mich. voted against the bill for legalizing ileegals..Debbie Stabmenow. but of course she will swing left once in power. so Pelosi's actions do not surprise me in the least.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 12, 2007 9:13 AM

Naseem said: "I think though that the constitution could be amended . . .and you will see creeping sharia."

You got the first part right.
As for the second part - You *will* see three-quarters of the state legislatures ratify an amendment to the United States Constitution banning all adherents, practices and forms of Islam based on the Qur'an.

In judgment, in action, in hearing, in teaching, in association, we must discern between the precious and the vile, and maintain the great distinction and "The Great Separation."

Posted by: Malinois at January 12, 2007 9:16 AM

f your security forces kill 157 in the US...THEN your comment will be relevent.....until then, it's a waiting game. Naseem the difference with our military is that actually go after the bad guys, and avoid innocents. The 3,000 non combatanst people that died in two hours on 9-11 were killed by savages of your death cult. The sooner the West realizes that islam is evil, having your islamist killed off is cheaper than keeping them in Gitmo.
the media keep saying how this war will make more islamists, l say the more of our military that fights come home with more knowledge of your evil cult and are becmoe stropnger men and women that will defend our lands from the likes of these monster islamists.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 12, 2007 9:17 AM

This is the sort of scenario political correctness is inviting.

This political correctness has got to be stopped.

Although an old term, political correctness seemed to appear overnight, and with no critical analysis at the time to exactly what the concept comprises or how it works. All we know is that PC seeks to inhibit or eliminate speech and behaviors proscribed by the Left, probably an outgrowth of the communist Party Line that inevitably spawned from Marxism’s central ideal of the olympian council where a committee of intellectual ideologues would save the masses from victimhood… and themselves.

Anyway, 20 yrs or so ago the word (and concept of)political correctness suddenly was swirling all about us. The conservatives (a now dormant political movement probably killed off by PC) constantly denounced it, and the Left (rooted in Marxism) are silent about it.

In Asimov’s blockbuster Foundation Series, Pyschohistorians would run linear surveys of past media chatter looking for the birth, growth, and vectors of ideas and concepts, largely by tracing word incidences.

But that was science fiction, which is not real, and therefore not for us. What’s for us is Fictive Reality, which isn’t based on reality but is as real as a heart attack.

PC has murderously exploded several times. In the Stalin show trials that covered in massive slaughters, in Mao’s vicious Cultural Revolution, and in the bloodbaths in Phnom Penh and Saigon at the end of Viet Nam.

But these modern PC conflagrations were on a punk scale, I think because their ideological substructure, Marxism (aka Socialism, Leftism, Liberalism, Secular Humanism, etc.) were too structured and poor at adaptability and sustainability, lacking direction and purpose).

The ultimate PC has always been Islam, an ideology with a sterling performance track record in adaptability, sustainability, and purposefulness.

Islam is the greatest ideology in world history.

Appointing a shady Moslem activist from Minnesota to the House Judiciary Committee of all things. Levin and Pelosi standing shoulder-to-shoulder to stop the oppression of Moslems. All based on a patently staged drama play put on by 6 flying Imams during the course of a federal crime. What a horrific but inexorable vision.

As we sit back and watch Islam exploit Marxism and eventually swallow it up, can we awake and take a last ditch swipe at saving ourselves?

Probably not, because we’ll be limited from open discussion, due to too many words and actions not allowed by our teachers, by our legislatures, by our courts, by our clergy, by the media and, ultimately, by ourselves.

George Orwell and Marshall McLuhan were onto something much bigger probably than even they suspected.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 9:38 AM

Liberals only care about getting/staying in power. They will sacrifice our security to earn the votes of people that wish to do us harm and other degenerates. Liberals fill the void of reason and logic. Why is profiling bad any way? It's using experience and common sense. Are we supposed to just ignore the people that want to kill us so we don't hurt their feelings? I am sick of all the PC crap that goes on.

Posted by: MagnaCharles at January 12, 2007 9:47 AM

WASHINGTON, D.C.
January 11, 2007

HS Future Terrorism Task Force findings: "Salafi Jihadism is the main threat"

By Walid Phares
The Task Force on Future Terrorism formed by the Homeland Security's Advisory Council (HSAC) released its findings today in Washington DC, in the presence of Secretary Chertoff, other US leaders and the media.
[...]
Frank Cilluffo, the vice chairman of the Task Force said "home and prison radicalization is very important" in the growth of the threat. He mentioned that a "lexicon" has to be established to engage in the "battle of ideas."
The findings, as announced today, include a variety of assessments and recommendations.

Read the findings at Counterterrorism Blog
http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/01/print/hs_future_terrorism_task_force.php

(Recommendations include input from Subject Matter
Experts. Robert Spencer, Director of Jihad Watch is on the list.)

Posted by: Malinois at January 12, 2007 9:49 AM

Oh com'on folks, muslim numbers are nothing to worry about, just because they make the most noise does'nt mean they have any real power in taking over the good ol U.S.of A. Everything in life is trial and error and when 'it' happens Pelosi and her ilk will be sent packing with their tails firmly tucked between their legs.
Take a look at naseem, its complete lack of empathy and stupid arrogance says it all, The troll prefers Nancy to Pelosi when mentioning this soon to be known traitor.

Posted by: eloivsdiablo at January 12, 2007 9:57 AM

Liberals only care about getting/staying in power.

Boy, I disagree with that.

Liberals care intensely about retiring the Constitution and remaking the world in the image of Sweden. They want socialism, limits on free speech, Nanny State, aculturalism and ahistoricism.

The person who compose our ruling elite aren't so much stuid as very well educated in stupidity.

And they want to share.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 10:04 AM

Educated beyond their intelligence....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 10:08 AM

Malinois
That link shows some pretty interesting info.
That would actually come in handy when I once again complain to my Congressman about Conyers bill hr 288.

Posted by: gaelen at January 12, 2007 10:20 AM

I look forward to whatever excresence emerges from conyers and ellison being debated in the House. And, in the highly unlikely event that the House and Senate approve of such a bill as they intend, to it being summarily shit-canned by Bush. Not to say that conyers, ellison, and their saudi masters aren't dangerous, but I think this effort could backfire and expose them.

Posted by: Infidel33 at January 12, 2007 10:27 AM

If this legislation ever passes, the Airlines Pilots Association should strike.

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at January 12, 2007 10:28 AM

Naseem - OK, first off, it's AMERICA. Learn to spell it correctly.

To your main point, this country has liberal bastions located on both coasts, but the Heartland of the US will not stand for the Islamification of our homeland. Ever. Period.

The Dhimmicrats can pass all the Constitutional amendments they want, but when it comes down to our lives, you will see the Second American Revolution.

Then, you will see the aftermath, which will most likely outlaw Islam in any form on our shores.

We in the Heartland are armed, resolute, and know how to fight to win.

Posted by: EricInTexas at January 12, 2007 10:28 AM

Wow when immigrants of the non-Western culture come over they try and change the nations laws from the moment they arrive and demand equality if not special treatment to suit their needs. They make mountains out of molehills over equality issues such as 'take those crosses off in your school they offend me'. They immigrate to escape their nations because there is no real equality that they demand in the West, woman have to cue in separate lines to men in shops, other religious minorities are driven out bullied or arrested, and if someone from the Europe draws a picture of Allah they burn a church down in that Islamic country or burn an embassy. Ok now immigrant Muslims feel driven out of America or feel persecuted but they do jack when equating that for their Christian neighbours where they came from whom are arrested or seen as kafir or dimmies.

If people don't write or complain to these PC Brigade Totalitarianisms then I hope the Eastern ideology wins so that one day the West wakes up and fights for real to take it back because they were too lazy to do anything about it. you have to Research and find out the problem where it is and complain email or write a letter, if an immigrant can change your laws why can not you who speak the language you and write English better than they, so counter act it, forgiveness (in Jesus' footsteps) is one thing spreading the word is another to stand your ground.

Europe and America have gone soft, where are the real men in charge?
My parents got checked at the airport they are nearly 70 but I heard they other day a suspect terrorist got away wearing a veil. If 200 people can write to Jihadwatch for an opinion why can they not write 200 emails to these establisments or governments and those leaders? Problem is I think people lack balls by letting it happen you may aswell join them if you do nothing.

Sorry but it's annoying because we allow it to happen.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 12, 2007 10:32 AM

The greatest threat to America, far greater than Hitler ever was, is Islam.

Pelosi, Conyers et al greatest concern is the feelings of the terrorists and their compatriots.

Islam has shown a remarkable ability to exploit our welfare system, our constitution and courts and above all our free press. Islam is the 'perfect anti-democracy machine'.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at January 12, 2007 10:33 AM

Assalamau Laikum Pig,

You say "The ultimate PC has always been Islam, an ideology with a sterling performance track record in adaptability, sustainability, and purposefulness.

Islam is the greatest ideology in world history".

I like a farmer with guts and honesty that says it like it is. Indeed you are right ...and many peoples here know this deep in their heart ...but cannot bring to their tongue what you you have.

Instead profiling and hatred take the mantle.

Islam has sustanance, magic, fairytales, staying power, discipline, rules, mystery as well as mystic all kinda rolled into 1.

It is focused, powerful, aggressive yet gentle...and it has followers who are prepared not to question yet to defend it to the death.

It will remain around long after christianity has disappeared..

Why oh why do you want to hate such power....you can have it too....its simple to join.

Not bad for a 6th centuary illitrate ...don't you think....ofcourse he had a bit of help from Allah SWT ...OUR Lord.

Posted by: Naseem at January 12, 2007 10:37 AM

Remember the unity this country had after 9/11?
It lasted about a year before liberals began to peak out of their hiding places and be heard.
When we get hit again (which I presume will happen since Bush and the other liberals and moderates refused to militarize our borders), all of these vermin will go into hiding once more and we won't hear their contempt for this country disguised as championing civil liberties.

Posted by: Paper Tiger at January 12, 2007 10:39 AM

One thing is for sure;if Pelosi,Conyers,Ellison and any other leftwinger in the US congress who supports, and succeeds in reducing the tools for security in the Patriot Act, or reduces the ability of the TSA to do their job in evaluating a potential terrorist suspect whether profiling or not; the very next serious terrorist attack on America which will come sooner,or later will be layed at their feet and they will be found complicit by the American people in weakening America's security resolve.

The defence of America's enemies foreign, and domestic is the President's most solemn duty as Commander and Chief.

Posted by: Mackie at January 12, 2007 10:55 AM

Censorship is WAR!

It provides security for nobody.

Posted by: squire at January 12, 2007 11:11 AM

O/T but I heard about this the other day on the Sean Hannity radio show. It seems our wonderful dem leaders have introduced a bill to Senate that will be voted on next week. It's on transparency in legislation, however section 220 of this bill would stop you me and everybody else from finding out about bills being voted on in congress and senate. It seems that they don't want us telling them what we want and don't want anymore.

I will see if I can a link to the bill and post it.

Posted by: gaelen at January 12, 2007 11:27 AM

Thinking it from a bacterial perspective the organism of Islam is a bit like cancer as it grows and destroys the host cell, but the democracy pill that is growing in Iraq and Afghanistan is slowing dissolving so that it will let out the counter attack in these regions in this clash of civilisations. Once Iraq gets democracy the rest will follow in its fruits and benefits. It's two organic systems that are trying to win some world domination and Israel is the centre point to all this too.
There is 3 main systems in this world which is Democracy, Communism and Islam.

Biblical Prophecy suggests the agenda is the eradicate Christianity; Democracy is Turing Totalitarianism anyway so no cross please. Communists persecute Christians anyway and Islam persecutes anyone who is non-Muslim anyway too. So prophecy for the future saints is coming when one of the 3 systems I suggested looks like it's won the world would be one will follow it only to be deceived. The Devil is doing a good job only now what system does he choose maybe a combined one? What cuts people's heads off these days with the sword? Who demands submission to worship? What system wants the Jews eradicated too? What system could bring the world under one roof? What system will outlaw religion before a false one takes over it? It's either in the shadow of the Devil right now or the 3 elements of these ideologies will combine and the world is doing just that everyone is spreading globally evolving the one world Babylon.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 12, 2007 11:36 AM

Someone is flipping the switches to suite their shape and it is oranically changing untill it can mould perfectly over everything including the world, and these little laws are just part of the whole puzzle, who ever wins we lose it seems but I would rather lose or win to a system with less persecution and more freedoms. But it seems unlikely good will prevail untill God steps in.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 12, 2007 11:43 AM

Waterdragon52 has pointed out that behavior, suspicious activity, can be used to identify potential terrorists.

If Moslem advocacy groups insist upon fighting each case in which a Moslem is arrested for threatening behavior, let them do so. Let them come up with the money for the legal expenses. Let them lie and be shown to be liars in the courts. Let their lies casue all non-Moslems to wonder at and question the kind of "religion" that could possibly support such a mindset.

In the end, Moslems will come to know the true meaning of submission. They will submit to Western law while in the West, or they will submit to pressure to leave the West entirely, or they will submit to brute force if they persist in prosecuting their evil intentions.

Let's roll.

Posted by: Chatillon at January 12, 2007 11:45 AM

I hope that socialist pelosi reaps the whirlwind regarding her attemts to undermine our national security.

The lands where islam dominate remind me of the scurge (undead dominated areas) in Warcaft frozen throne. Fantasy imitating reality.

Posted by: squire at January 12, 2007 11:47 AM

Regarding JesusIsTheLamb's post... in reality, Democracy is a form of representative government, not a political ideology such as Communism, Fascism, or for that matter, Islamism. Our reigning ideology in the US is Capitalism, which provides for the freedom of individuals to pretty much run a business as they see fit, in order to generate wealth for themselves, provide a decent living for their employees, contribute not only necessities but all manner of "frivilous" or luxury items to the society, and also taxes which go towards supporting the local/state/federal government.

The fact of the matter is, Democracy can only work within the framework of a (mostly) Capitalistic ideology. It is not compatible with Communism (for the most part - China has actually made some headway, but still is, and will continue to, run behind the West in this), and is absolutely incompatible with Islamism. Why do you think that Muslim nations have contributed bupkus to the scientific or technological circles over the past 14 centuries? (Oh, I know we will hear from the Naseems here about how untrue this is - that's crap. The discoveries and inventions they claim were all stolen from earlier, more open-minded societies).

We need to ask our friends that reside here in our country just why they are here, if they want to live under Sharia or Islamic laws? They have a choice, as far as I'm concerned - either make an attempt to assimilate to our society (where we let you worship as you please), and place your allegiance to our Constitution (which LETS you worship as you please), or get the hell out and go to another country that you feel comfortable with.

You are welcome here, if you want to become an American. If not, quit trying to change our country, and just go wherever you think your life would be better.

Posted by: EricInTexas at January 12, 2007 11:54 AM

tgusa,

Maybe we should make it a class action lawsuit for every American that is NOT Muslim and has been searched at airports?

I'd sign up for sure.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 12, 2007 12:09 PM

Time to fight the stupid bassTURD puppets in Washington. Let's start with Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 12, 2007 12:12 PM

Naseem the difference with our military is that actually go after the bad guys, and avoid innocents. The 3,000 non combatanst people that died in two hours on 9-11 were killed by savages of your death cult.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

Zena, you silly kaffir you, Don't you understand? Only moslems can be "innocents" Non-moslems are by definition not innocents. So it is written in the koran. The only innocents killed in the Twin Towers were the few moslems there. But they were also martyrs and are now in paradise, enjoying their 72 virgins (or some of the boys like pearls, as they prefer; Allah is so merciful).

Posted by: ebonystone at January 12, 2007 12:14 PM

People you are missing the point and the question.
Why is it normal people as on this site have no problem with profiling and it is always leftists who are in fear of it???????
Perhaps it is because people as on this site have nothing to hide in trying to live normal moral lives while people like Ted Kennedy, Conyers, Pelosi and Bill Clinton all have skeletons in their closet they know would ruin them.
When I see a police officer or a soldier, I see someone there to protect me. When these leftists sees a police officer or soldier they see someone who is going to attack them.
It is a psychopathy (brain sickness) of an irrational fear and is why if you notice "islamophobia" is the new coined word as these people live in fear and is the first word they express.
They are all phobiaholics living in terror of what might be...if it is not profiling it is a hamburger is going to kill them.
Frame the issue in the reality it is and these people will run away as the last thing Pelosi wants to come to light is the dirty little secrets she and Conyers are hiding.....just like Muslims who join Islam, because it empowers their weak egos to lord over women and children and gives them a reason for their failures.
Leftists are all the same weak fearful people.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at January 12, 2007 12:20 PM

Naseem,

Violent jihad against non-believers, a belief in the tenet that there can be no peace in the world until all have accepted Allah and that all Muslims must wage war against non-believers until the universality of Islam has been established.

Are Muslims for it or against it?

Forget what Mohammad said fourteen hundred years ago. Forget the crusaders. Forget the Ottomans. Forget Osama and al Qaeda. This is a question for you and for all American Muslims and those who would emigrate to America: are you for the above philosophy or against it?

It's a simple question and it shouldn't be hard to answer.

Posted by: PMK at January 12, 2007 12:25 PM

"Perhaps it is because people as on this site have nothing to hide in trying to live normal moral lives while people like Ted Kennedy, Conyers, Pelosi and Bill Clinton all have skeletons in their closet they know would ruin them. Posted by Lame Cherry

Lame Cherry, maybe they don't have skeletons. Maybe they are motived in other ways.

Everyone is motivated by something. Isn't that correct? We make all make decisions on a daily basis.

Politicians in Washington are 'persuaded' on a regular basis by special interest groups and lobbyists who give them large campaign contributions, to vote in a particular way.

I suppose the question to ask is who are the above mentioned folks serving? Is it the American public? Is the the people who voted for them? At the very least, shouldn't they be accountable to the American citizen?

Posted by: The Goobs at January 12, 2007 12:44 PM

Well, isnt it refreshing to know that the Dems in congress, bless their little darlin hearts, JUST CANT HELP THEMSELVES!! Their long repressed, depressed, possessed, obsessed, distressed, little P.C. selves have finally been released from the bottle and are ready to grant three wishes to any fellow P.C. nutjob with a chip on his shoulder.

Profile Muslims, How terrible, lets correct this GREAT injustice forthwith!!!

If another attack happens on our watch, just blame Pres. Bush for pissing them off and then apologise for the great injustice inflicted on them by the prior adminstration and then beg them not to attack us again.

We can all pray for minimal damage to our country until the voting public awakens to what they have done in this last election and vote them out before the Dems give the islamists Michigan and Minnesota as an appeasement for this awful profiling sin.

Posted by: guide inside at January 12, 2007 12:53 PM

APF said:
"Islam is the greatest ideology in world history".

Naseem said:
"I like a farmer with guts and honesty that says it like it is. Indeed you are right ...and many peoples here know this deep in their heart ...but cannot bring to their tongue what you you have."

Naseem,

Nazi-ism was an ideology too. Stop blushing and gushing because you believe APF was paying a compliment to Islam......he wasn't. Islam has been successful through the centuries solely due to the facts of being able to manipulate the ignorant masses; (see the Middle East as a whole) and violently suppress opposing voices who try speak the truth.

Islam did not ever, and does not now reveal the truth. The viciousness of the Islamic texts are indicative of a lack of a sound moral foundation. It is like going to the grocery store and being forced to buy a rotten apple. If the apple was good and pure, there would be no need for violent coercion to buy it. Everyone would want it. This is not the perception most people have of Islam, and, rightly so.

Muhammad was impressive, indeed. He managed to mislead over a billion people, with you being on that list as well. Sorry for YOUR loss.

Posted by: awake at January 12, 2007 12:53 PM

Yes Eric, I think you've arrived at the crux of the matter. For the most part at least. The trouble with the "true believers" or those who blindly follow a militant form of Islam see things quite differently. The Democracy we live in whose government is a Representative Republic is wholly unsuited for those who seek to live under the dictates of Sharia. Their religion, if it could be called such, commands them to live in a manner such that they are perpetually at odds with the Western nations they inhabit.

So why are they here? For those who choose to immigrate into Western nations, I suppose they, like anyone else, seek a better way of life. A way of life that enriches them materially with all the modern conveniences the West has to offer. From medicine to the latest electronic devices.

For that, I cannot blame them. The problem is though that while they seek those things they also seek to retain their radical form of Islam. And are quite militant about doing so. They have learned well the lessons of Western civil rights activism and how to use it to further their cause. CAIR is a case in point.

The problem with your statement (which I agree with), "... place your allegiance to our Constitution (which LETS you worship as you please), or get the hell out and go to another country that you feel comfortable with." Is that they have learned that they do not have to get the hell out.

And so we arrive at the problem of what can be done? What laws do we need to change and what impact will such changes have on the rest of the population? Some tough decisions need to be made. But as this article on profiling shows, we are moving in the wrong direction. Aiding rather than hindering those who may seek our harm.

Posted by: Motor City Madman at January 12, 2007 1:01 PM

Anyone seen this breaking news?

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5930911&nav=1TjD

Bomb threat reported on American Eagle plane in Toledo.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 12, 2007 1:07 PM

It will remain around long after christianity has disappeared..

Why oh why do you want to hate such power....you can have it too....its simple to join.

Not bad for a 6th centuary illitrate ...don't you think....ofcourse he had a bit of help from Allah SWT ...OUR Lord.

Naseem, even though I think you are a froll, like an islamic alarm clock, you are speaking the words of the "father of lies"

Posted by: Carolyn2 at January 12, 2007 1:12 PM

I am sure that our Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights will stand against the islamists. For instance, substitute Christian for muslim in any bill pushed forward. Think it will pass muster? You see, they don’t understand those documents. I would wager that two of the three reps in question have never read them, there is only one book after all. So write your reps, let them know where you stand and keep your eyes peeled for bad legislation. Even if they throw your letter away, who cares and who knows, someone else may somehow read it, think about it and become educated.

Oh, and if you haven’t already, read the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights until you know them well.

The Goobs, Yes. I don’t want money though, it is a matter of principle.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 1:26 PM

Good piece Robert. Profiling of some sort is a necessity. While profiling is technically discriminatory in the legal sense, it is not unlawful. However, there need to be attached to such policies robust accountability measures to ensure there is no abuse of profiling pwers.

Posted by: Haidon at January 12, 2007 1:33 PM

Well there is one way to put this issue into the hands of the public and that is through a consumer boycott of air travel if such an anti-profiling bill is passed. Millions of Americans can and no doubt SHOULD decline to fly--although many of us avoid it when possible as it is now.

The public can write their representatives in the government including Ms. Pelosi and tell them why they are no longer going to fly and why any government decisions to stop profiling of Muslims at airports is dangerous and unfair to the general public (of course they will not have time to open most of their mail but if enough of us write they may get the message).

Anyway, race is NOT the issue. Muslims can come in of course any race or color and many may not even wear their religious garb in the public to avoid detection.

The idea is to head off potential terrorists from massacring US.
I know everyone here knows that, but the government out there just doesn't seem to quite catch on. Waterdragon's suggestion of profioing on the basis of suspicious behavior is something the government could do and that would make a promising start.

If this anti-profiling bill goes through we will have to combat it piecemeal. But getting it overturned and/or counteracting it may not prove impossible. Especially if Ellison and Pelosi cause a major international air disaster with their irresponsible legislaation (and they JUST MIGHT!!).

We will just have to beat it into the heads of these dimwitted bureaucrats that Islamic terror in the skies is NOT to be tolerated. Eventually they MAY catch on.

Then again, maybe not.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 12, 2007 1:46 PM

Here it is, an islamist resolution. Lotsa luck with that up there reps. Don’t forget to look twice at the sponsors and remember, next election.
http://chromatism.net/current/hres288.htm
I feel like I should wash my brain out with soap after reading that. It's ridiculous.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 2:07 PM

“have sent a wave of fear through our immigrant communities and targeted our Arab and Muslim neighbors.”

Unfortunately this is not true. If it were, if fear could keep jihadists with murder on their brain from flying, it would be "a good thing." [Hat tip to Martha Stewart]

For the Arab-Muslim case against racial profiling, see

http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2006/12/stop-racial-profiling-this-is-outraged.html

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 12, 2007 2:10 PM

GENERALLY SPEAKING ANYTHING "....its simple to join. " simple or easy is the wrong thing..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 2:13 PM

Many Muslims I speak with acknowledge that profiling is an unfortunate, but necessary, consequence of Muslim ambivalence to terrorism.

Posted by: Haidon at January 12, 2007 2:20 PM

How would any of you expect these people to know how to ensure national security. Oh, how times have changed. At one time Democrats would put American citizens of Japanese (and German and Italian, BTW) into internment camps, and be suspicious of one's profile. In 1941-1945, if someone coming into the country looked, sounded, and behaved suspiciously, then they would be utter FOOLS not to detain that person. At one time Demcrats were as concerned as anyone of how profiling foreigners coming into our country was essential to our national security.

Now, all they care about is partisan expediency. If a Republican administration says that profiling people is important for our national security, the Democrats all decry it as racism and fascist removal of human rights. No sane person would dare attack our national policies in WWII, because they know that those policies were necessary in order to save humanity from Fascism, Nazism and Japanese Imperialism.

There is no less importance today in keeping our national security a precious necessity, because the evidence is all as evident today that there are forces in the world that want to destroy humanity as we know it, and to replace it with a world-wide Caliphate. Yet, the Democratic Party is being led by petty partisan nimrods who would rather give G.W. Bush a black eye than do the right thing. Franklin Delano Roosevelt is turning over in his grave.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at January 12, 2007 2:23 PM

goob,

Your

*sigh* We're doomed

is not the way you want to approach this change in the people who want to govern us.

Remember, they only govern with the consent of the governed.

Also, they ignore some lawbreakers--multitudes of them as a fact . . .

. . . breaking Federal law by coming in here or staying here illegally . . .

. . . while wanting to pass pro-Moslem legislation , leaving us naked and defenseless against those who are out to kill us.

Will we consent to be governed in that manner?

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 12, 2007 2:37 PM

Well, since many are holding forth with their version of what is wrong with “those darn liberals” I will present mine as well.

Right-wing pundits who accuse America’s liberals of “wanting America to fail” (Limbaugh, Coulter et. al.) don’t quite have it right.

I know a lot of liberals and count many among my relatives. They don’t hate this country. You saw how every one rallied after 9-11.

Their problem is not that they want America to fail, but that they don’t think America CAN fail. We can be perpetually generous and perennially tolerant and generally defy reality - as long as we mean well, it’ll all come out OK. They are the equivalent of those upper-class Germans (many of them Jews) that looked at Hitler’s beer hall ruffians and said, “That kind can’t succeed in the land of Bach, Brahms and Schiller.” (No one has heard from them since...)

9-11 woke them up for a little while, but it wasn’t long before one fatuous donkey among them called the 3000 office workers “little Eichmanns” - thereby distancing himself from them, and any danger (he thinks)

Oh, and they do look down on/ pity the unwashed masses of the 3rd world.(and they aren’t differentiating between Muslims, Arabs, Hindus and Africans) They think “those people” can’t take care of themselves. In fact, any Americans who aren’t quite up to their college educated, cul-de-sac living standards can’t take care of themselves, either.

That’s why they are so fond of social programs and Welfare.
That’s why they can’t see global political Islam as a threat. Those “little brown people” from somewhere else are pathetic. How can they be a threat?

As long as CAIR and their ilk keep playing the pitiful victim card, they have it made. Profiling is just seen as bullying.

Posted by: freedomschool at January 12, 2007 2:43 PM

"Profiling is just seen as bullying.""

....Being a bully might just save you....

ON this, I disagree somewhat....

"Their problem is not that they want America to fail, but that they don’t think America CAN fail."

.....They want America to fail under the realm of the current administration in order to rub noses in the dirt for a long time....it is too easy to point fingers at people if history proves they made a mistake....If America fails, just who will the blame fall upon????

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 3:03 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote:

20 yrs or so ago the word (and concept of)political correctness suddenly was swirling all about us. The conservatives (a now dormant political movement probably killed off by PC) constantly denounced it, and the Left (rooted in Marxism) are silent about it --

then projected a science-fiction scenario about the dominance of PC.

But actually, Alarmed Pig Farmer's sci-fi scenario doesn't go far enough -- it doesn't account for the fact that Conservatives were not, in fact, "killed off" by PC -- they became absorbed into PC: For the most part (with a few rare exceptions), Conservatives have converted to PC over the past approximately 25 years.

Even though PC emanates from the Leftist orbit, the problem of PC now is larger than Left or Right: it has swallowed up both Left and Right. And if we do see criticism from the Right of Pelosi's intentions, that criticism will most likely be framed by the wrong rationale, and will be irrationally gingerly for fear of incurring the wrath of the PC gods, who have insinuated their commands into the very brains and marrow of most Conservatives.

Posted by: remote_control at January 12, 2007 3:08 PM

"but a rolling muslim gathers lots of kaffur"

As long as the "kafur" is Nancy Pelosi et al.

as for the "rolling Muslim[s]," . . .

. . . roll 'em out . . .

. . . all the way out . . .

. . . out of our lands, out of our hair . . .

. . . (easier said than done) . . .

. . . unless . . .

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 12, 2007 3:12 PM

these poor muslims complaining about profiling, well when l crossed the border with my nehprew when he was a teenager, he had long hair and stuff, we got pulled over and searched! that was profiling, people who look like my nephrew and his age usually have a higher incidence being involved with drugs.. now where do l go for complaining.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 12, 2007 3:16 PM

Hi, exsgtbrown

"....Being a bully might just save you...."

of course we both know it isn't actually bullying. I get this picture of a six-foot-tall, 250 lb. man being punched, scratched and cussed out by a 5 ft, 100 lb. woman. Just as she reaches for a knife, with one deft shove, he sends her sprawling to the other side of the room. When the cops show up, who's the bad guy?

The USA.

".....They want America to fail under the realm of the current administration in order to rub noses in the dirt for a long time....it is too easy to point fingers at people if history proves they made a mistake....If America fails, just who will the blame fall upon????"

They can't envision a kind of failure where they aren't writing the history, and they don't have title to any dirt to shove a nose into.

I know I sound a little dramatic. I hope we are as unassailable as they seem to think we are.

Posted by: freedomschool at January 12, 2007 3:34 PM

Hi, Zena

"these poor muslims complaining about profiling, well when l crossed the border with my nehprew when he was a teenager, he had long hair and stuff, we got pulled over and searched! that was profiling, people who look like my nephrew and his age usually have a higher incidence being involved with drugs.. now where do l go for complaining."

I know what you mean. When I was a teenager, I got watched like a hawk at department stores. Boy, did I hate that! I wasn't stealing anything. If I had complained, someone would have told me that teenage girls are statistically the most likely to shoplift. These shopkeepers are entitled to protect their interests.

Why aren't we?

Posted by: freedomschool at January 12, 2007 3:39 PM

I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view. It is quite a different matter with Conyers and of course with Ellison.
Posted by: Hugh

Let them! This is going to last exactly *two* years.

The more radical these people act now the better the chances for a true Patriot to be elected President in '08. And a slew of conservative-oriented Congressmen/women. The Senate is barely in their control anyway. Although there are more than a few clueless liberal Republicans in both Houses.

The more radical these next two years.. the better the rest of us will mobilize to undo the damage this time.

That means HEAVY turnout in the Republican PRiMARIES! We have to choose the patriotic and incorruptible candidates BEFORE they go up against the Dhims.. or else we won't have a real choice once again.

Which is exactly what happened in '06.

The jihad must be defeated at the ballot box - or we WILL have to fight them over here.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 12, 2007 3:42 PM

United we stand, Divided we fall.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 3:56 PM

Posted by: Hugh
"I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view. It is quite a different matter with Conyers and of course with Ellison."

Yep. Pelosi is in a ground-breaking, high-profile position. She is the FIRST (female Speaker) and everyone is looking at her.

If she can't see moderating her stand as being in her best interests as Nancy the American, perhaps she will see moderating her stand as being in her best interests as Speaker of the House Pelosi the lady who wants to be taken seriously and leave a good legacy.

Posted by: freedomschool at January 12, 2007 3:59 PM

judge for yourself... see if Ms Pelosi has American interests at heart::

" look at Pelosi's voting record
TODAY'S EDITORIAL
November 3, 2006

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi would bring to the office a level of left-wing liberalism that will be unprecedented. In the National Journal's 2005 ideological ratings, which were based on scores of votes, Mrs. Pelosi was ranked more liberal than 91 percent of her House colleagues on economic issues, 96 percent on social matters and 82 percent on foreign-policy issues. Here are her relative rankings (economic, social, foreign) for 2004 (93, 88, 81), 2003 (92, 89, 70), 2002 (88, 84, 90) and 2001 (94, 83, 93).
Until she received a 95 percent liberal rating in 2005 from the Americans for Democratic Action (the nation's pre-eminent liberal organization), Mrs. Pelosi had racked up five consecutive years (2000-04) of 100 percent ratings. Her lifetime ADA rating is 96 percent. Last year, the American Conservative Union gave her a 0 rating. Her lifetime ACU rating is 3 percent.
Typical for her 20-year House career, Mrs. Pelosi received a 100 percent rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America last year and a 0 rating from the National Right to Life Committee. A Roman Catholic who has repeatedly voted to uphold partial-birth abortion, who has voted against parental notification when minor children seek abortion and who has shown no concern for the rights of the innocent unborn, Mrs. Pelosi has consistently opposed the death penalty.
Over the years, Mrs. Pelosi has consistently voted against welfare reform, including the 1996 bill signed by President Clinton and its re-authorization. In 1998, she opposed a constitutional amendment to permit school prayer in the classroom. In 1999, she opposed allowing state and local governments to display the Ten Commandments on public property, including schools. She has voted against education IRAs. In 2003, she opposed a $10 million program for school vouchers in the District of Columbia. That same year she voted against the 10-year $400 billion Medicare prescription-drug bill because she preferred one that was twice as expensive. Mrs. Pelosi has repeatedly voted for tax increases and opposed tax cuts, even the 2001 bill that doubled the child tax credit to $1,000, among other cuts.
As the United States has become increasingly dependent on foreign sources for oil, Mrs. Pelosi has always opposed drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. In recent years, she has become protectionist -- leading the opposition in 2000 against then-President Clinton's successful effort to establish permanent normal trade relations with China. She also opposed giving Mr. Clinton and Mr. Bush trade-promotion authority; and in 2005 she voted against the Central American Free Trade Agreement. In 2004, she voted to end Radio Marti broadcasts to Cuba. She voted to reduce funds for the B-2 intercontinental bomber, which performed superbly in the 1999 Kosovo War, in 2001 in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Mrs. Pelosi has repeatedly opposed anti-missile defense, even as a nuclear-armed North Korea has tested ballistic missiles."

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 4:05 PM

Talk about an unholy alliance.

How does Ellison feel about abortion, gay marriage?

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at January 12, 2007 4:17 PM

"Mrs. Pelosi has repeatedly opposed anti-missile defense, even as a nuclear-armed North Korea has tested ballistic missiles."

(sigh) I miss Ronald Reagan.

The very first bill passed by this new House o' Reps had a feature that made it mandatory for every shipping container to be screened before it left it's home port for here. (I watched this on C-Span). I hope that's as good as it sounds.

I noticed throughout the hearing for this bill,(a bill meant to implement many of the things outlined in the 9-11 Commission report), Pelosi was not the one presiding. There was Murtha banging the gavel for awhile, and then, as the bill was about to pass, Murtha handed the gavel to...(correct me if I'm wrong) Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN)
I hope this isn't all a show.

Posted by: freedomschool at January 12, 2007 4:20 PM

Mr Ellison in on record as being against:

homosexuality
drugs
alcohol
sexual deviancy
womens rights
porno

Some of which are in direct conflict with actual lifestyle of Muslims as practiced by muslims....

hypocrites.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 4:27 PM

PELOSI AND ELLISON ARE SLUGS THAT WILL DAMAGE AMERICA.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 12, 2007 5:13 PM

Alcohol!
We all know what happened last time we banned alcohol.
And what about Pelosi? I suppose drugs, being illegal right now are a no vote but the others, how can her area operate w/o them? I can’t see those two in the same party.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 5:17 PM

The dems are showing their muslim unity, hey they should come to JW and chat with the real thing. I think many former servicemen with burned out brains join the dems, have pity for they know not what they do.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 5:26 PM

Profiling? I don't give a rat's ass what you call it. I know that I, and every other American I have ever encountered at the airport do it, every flight, every time.

Posted by: EricInTexas at January 12, 2007 5:39 PM

Pelosi, Conyers, and Ellison may be more dangerous than all Muslims put together.

like a bill to be passed that I do not ever have to live under any foreign terrorist threat in my country. I think this bill not discriminate against any religion, unless one's religion happen to be involved in terrorist activities.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at January 12, 2007 5:46 PM

Islam is the greatest ideology in world history.

I like a farmer with guts and honesty that says it like it is. Indeed you are right ...and many peoples here know this deep in their heart ...but cannot bring to their tongue what you you have.

Stop blushing and gushing because you believe APF was paying a compliment to Islam......he wasn't.

Thank you, Awake.

I was using the word “ideology” agnostically.

What makes Islam the greatest ideology of all time is its unabashed willingness to stoop to untold depths to ensure its success and longevity.

What separates Moslems from other participants in low ideology (Commies, Nazis, and similar ilk), is that the others idealize themselves as a way to accomplish their goals, solve problems, advance the race, goals which they idealize.

Moslems, in dark contrast, debase themselves to ensure victory of the worst man can be. Here’s the short high-level list:

• Worship evil

• Hate half of their own as filthy

• Organized crime gang-as-civilization (with a dash of NAMBLA thrown in to keep the troops happy)

In short, it is very doubtful that civilized folk, in other words Infidels, will be willing to stoop to the depth at which Moslems operate in order to save their civilizations from the evil ideology of Islam.

And it will prove necessary. Already starting to.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 5:50 PM

There’s money to be made by an airline that conducts its own El-Al type screening at the gate, in addition to the TSA check. This wouldn’t be possible with a United, American, or Delta but could probably be pulled off with a smaller carrier.

The screening would be tailored around the realities of what we’re facing. Muslims would avoid the carrier. Moms would flock to it, and gladly pay an extra $50. The idea might catch on.

The program would be challenged in court, but would probably win. And the trial coverage would make for some educational TV.

Posted by: pez at January 12, 2007 5:54 PM

“The policies of the Bush administration,” he has declared, “have sent a wave of fear through our immigrant communities and targeted our Arab and Muslim neighbors.”

I would put it like this:

"The policies of our successive governments have brought muslims immigrants who have sent a wave of fear through our non-muslim communities and terrorised our Christian and Jewish neighbors".

I think my version is more accurate!

Posted by: Hermit at January 12, 2007 5:56 PM

But actually, Alarmed Pig Farmer's sci-fi scenario doesn't go far enough -- it doesn't account for the fact that Conservatives were not, in fact, "killed off" by PC -- they became absorbed into PC: For the most part (with a few rare exceptions), Conservatives have converted to PC over the past approximately 25 years.

It’s a matter of perspective, Remote.

When they are absorbed into the PC cloud, are they still conservatives? This is an Invasion of the Pod People question, so be careful.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 12, 2007 5:57 PM

Because it is a forced ideology that when whittled down to the facts is based on the threat of death for almost anything, enforced by even your own brother. They have been terrorized into their belief system but as soon as many of them are shown who God favors, the slavers or the freemen they will(not the men they have a good thing going) stampede others top get out from under this dark and deceitful ideology. Right now the ones that would bail are too afraid we wont help them or we will abandon them to the monsters. Lets see, dark and deceitful, does that sound like the one true God? Not unless you are forced to believe it. If you tell me the koran is ok, I am going to have to rethink everything I always thought I knew regarding Hitler.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 6:01 PM

I predict this ideology will implode if the light is beamed on it. And guess what… they know I’m right. The hardcore will never give up but who cares. They picked the wrong era to start this crap. They should have heeded the call to jihad back in WWI before we encountered the villains of WWII. Now we have the internet (pbui) and they can’t stop the damn from breaking. Yes they stick a finger here and there but eventually all the fingers they have won’t be enough.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 6:20 PM

hello guys, please do forgive Naseem, she's got islam on her mind, remember its quite capable of twisting the mind.

islam is a death cult,yeah it kills the mind too.

Posted by: ismail at January 12, 2007 6:22 PM

Not to worry, ismail, we be quite fond of her *g*

Posted by: Gary at January 12, 2007 6:26 PM

Ismail~ (Checks your link) I look forward to your blog entries. Start writing!

Posted by: Gary at January 12, 2007 6:27 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer,

When they are absorbed into the PC cloud, are they still conservatives?

The problem is that the PC cloud is not as easily targeted as Leftism is, or as "Democrat" is.

The PC cloud has become the mainstream atmosphere of sentiments -- particularly sociopolitical sentiments.

With regard to this specific issue on this thread, I would say that most Conservatives today really think & feel that profiling Muslims has, at the very least, an unavoidable soupçon of racism. Whether a given Conservative therefore wants to avoid profiling Muslims mainly because he wants to avoid political suicide (since he would be going against the mainstream grain of society by supporting Muslim profiling), or because he actually has become a "PC Pod Person", it doesn't much matter, practically speaking.

And you Jihad Watchers can say "Islam is not a race" until the cows come home, but that won't change two facts:

1) most Muslims are non-white non-Westerners, and therefore any profiling methodology that focuses on Muslims will catch in its net an unavoidably high proportion of non-whites, only fueling the PC suspicions that the profiling is crypto-racist;

2) the PC Multiculturalist template that irrationally protects Islam and the vast majority of Muslims is connected to the other PC Multiculturalist template that views all non-white non-Westerners as innocent victims -- even when they do bad things -- of the Big Bad White West (both historically under Western Colonialism, and more currently for the last 50 years, under Post-Colonialist Crypto-Neo-Colonialism pursued mostly by the American Empire).

#2 has been going through a process of reinforcing #1, by making Muslims into the Poster Children of the Third World who need to be protected from Big Bad White Westerners and their bigoted, Imperialistic tendencies.

Posted by: remote_control at January 12, 2007 6:35 PM

That has to be the most BS I have ever heard in one place. White colonialism? Without it there would still be slavery everywhere. We stood for the rights of all men from the beginning(Adams) but we also knew not to push too hard too fast. It came around eventually, just as Adams secretly knew. W/O the USA the world would be who knows what, but there would be no human rights, we set the standard in spite of what the leftards believe. Yes it is conservatives that from the beginning made the ultimate sacrifice over and over again. So when we conservatives decide to let the others at each other we will be there in the end, to clean up the mess.

Posted by: tgusa at January 12, 2007 6:47 PM

OK guys, let's get down and dirty here,

As a sociologist specializing in criminology, my BS indicators were on alert with statements like "racial profiling has been proven to exist." Racial profiling is not my field of expertise, so I spent part of the day reviewing articles in the professional literature.

FACT: "Proof" that racial profiling "exists" is full of methodological holes! One delightful critic of the liberal "accepted wisdom" is Heather MacDonald. Here's only one example of her common-sense critique of the issue:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/05/19/nu_profiling_study_really_proves_nothing/

(Do a Google for more good sense.)

MacDonald is not the only one skeptical of results from racial profiling studies. My thought is that any penalty for racial profiling could be fought in court and found in favor of the defendants.

Sounds like "feel good" legislation to me.

Silver

Posted by: Silver at January 12, 2007 6:50 PM

"I find it hard to believe that, with her new responsibilities, Nancy Pelosi will continue to push such a dangerous view. It is quite a different matter with Conyers and of course with Ellison". Posted by: Hugh

I think you are right, Hugh. I think Nancy is a politician who is good at political stunts, but she's not naieve or malicious. She'll say one thing and do another. She's aware that politics is about perceptions. She's a smooth operator. However, she'll throw CAIR and Ibby under the bus if she thinks they will put her family in danger. I don't think th