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January 18, 2007

Fitzgerald: A tribute to Dinesh D'Souza

Dinesh D'Souza's arrogance, in presuming to write about matters that he could not possibly have studied, arrogance about the most important matters, disqualifies him from ever again being taken seriously about anything.

His dreamy belief that Islamic terrorism dates back to 1979 and the Ayatollah Khomeini returning from Neauphle-le-chateau to Teheran, ignores, as Robert Spencer mentions here, the entire history of terrorism directed against Israel, Israel as a state, and even before it was a state, against the Jews who lived in what was, historically, the Land of Israel. D'Souza ignores the terrorism used against the French in Algeria. (Incidentally, apparently Bush is reading Alistair Horne, who got so much wrong in his history of that conflict, because Henry Kissinger, ever the Islam-avoider, recommended his book to Bush as a guide to the situation in Iraq. Yet a moment's thought would show ten ways in which the situations are different. Horne's book refuses to recognize the centrality of Islam in the Algerian war against the Infidels, who included not only the French, but also all kinds of other non-Muslims -- Spanish, Italians, Jews -- who had been living for a long time in Algeria and whose only crime was to not be Muslim.)

But more than that, D’Souza ignores the 1350 years of Jihad-conquest, or apparently thinks that because the military means involved did not include bombs on airplanes, those conquests were not Jihad and certainly not terrorism. No, there were no bombs on airplanes during those 1300 years of Jihad-conquest. Nor were there I.E.D.s blowing up Humvees when the Muslims conquered the Middle East and North Africa, or when the Seljuk Turks conquered most of Anatolia and the Ottoman Turks finished the rest of the conquering, nor when Sassanian Persia, or Hindu India, were conquered.

But "striking terror" in the hearts of the enemy was always Muslim war policy, and was practiced even without the particular technologies or techniques used today. Apparently Dinesh D'Souza thinks that that is all that "terrorism" is: not a method, but the precise technologies that go back just a few decades. He might as well suggest that the Muslims have never used propaganda, either, because they lacked, in the old days, audiocassettes, videocassettes, satellite television, and the Internet. That is his level. That is what we are being asked to take seriously.

And then there are the texts. The most obvious apologetics are based on the notion that "everyone does it." All the texts, we are told, are more or less the same. Are they? Are the texts of Judaism and Christianity just as bloodthirsty, just as likely to whip up hatreds and violence, as are the Qur'an and Hadith? We all know that in some of those texts terrible things are written about the ancient Israelites and the Canaanites. But do Jews, have Jews, been going to temple and had rabbis whipping them up so that as they leave those temples they grab non-Jews yelling "kill the Cananites"? Has that been a feature of Judaism for the past hundred years? Thousand years? Two thousand years? It is nonsense to compare the texts of either of the prior two monotheisms with those of Islam. Dinesh D'Souza has not read Arthur Jeffery, Sir William Muir, Willem Noldeke. He has not read Snouck Hurgronje or St. Clair Tisdall or Joseph Schacht or Antoine Fattal. He has not read K. S. Lal, or any of the other Indian historians who might provide him with figures on how many Hindu victims -- 60-70 million of them -- were murdered by Muslims, and the murdering only stopped, as did the forced conversions, when it was realized that if every Hindu disappeared, then so too would those who could pay the Jizyah.

And his airy allusion to the possibilities of "selective quotation" suggests that he thinks that that is all that is worrisome in Islam, when the Qur'an is riddled with Jihad verses, and when the softer suras are essentially cancelled and superseded by the harsher more violent verses. Has Dinesh D'Souza heard about "naskh" or abrogation? And has he taken it seriously? Or has he relied on one of those smiling, plausible Muslim informants who assures him that this doctrine is not used, that it is a figment of the islamophobic imagination -- something concocted in the fervid brain, say, of Ibn Warraq, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, those crazed interpreters of Islam who know so little, while Dinesh D'Souza knows so very much?

What does Dinesh D'Souza make of the contents of the khutbas, sermons, that are delivered in Bangladesh, after which the Muslims streaming out of the mosque feel inspired enough to beat to death passing Hindus? For that matter, what does he make of the murder of the most peaceful, programmatically peaceful, Buddhists of southern Thailand by Muslims? What does he think of the strange outward flow of non-Muslims, observable everywhere that Muslims now rule where they once did not -- as in the lands that were once part of the Raj and are now known as Pakistan and Bangladesh, where the Hindu percentage of the population is now 10% of what it was in 1947 in Pakistan, and a quarter of what it was in Bangladesh in 1947, and yet, at the same time, the Muslim proportion of India's population has gone steadily up? And what does he think about the steady diminution in the numbers of Christians in Arab lands? And never mind the disappearance of a million Jews who, experiencing pogroms in Cairo and Tripoli and Baghdad, were not about to remain to enjoy the famed "tolerance" of Islam?

Dinesh D'Souza has fallen for that nonsense about "family values" in Islam. He is apparently so offended by the obvious decadence of the Western world that he likes the idea of fine, upstanding people who don't use tattoos or practice body-piercing, and whose children must listen to their parents -- as long as those parents are Muslim. If you convert to Islam, however, you need not have any respect for your non-Muslim parents who have been Left Behind. In the world of Dinesh D'Souza, a humorless and self-preening little world, some kinds of "morality" are accepted -- presumably the official Muslim hatred for homosexuality appeals to straight-laced Dinesh D'Souza -- but others are not.

What does Dinesh D'Souza find "moral" in polygamy, or in the contemptible treatment of women, not least in their inability to make a rape charge stick, or in the unequal punishments for women and men accused of sexual misconduct? How does he like lapidation as a form of execution? And the four male witnesses rule in cases of rape? What kind of "family values" are these? And what about being able to divorce -- for the man -- merely by saying "I divorce you" three times? Does that impress Dinesh D'Souza as an advance on Western ways? Can't one deplore many of the things that go on in the West without embracing or defending Islam?

What does Dinesh D'Souza think of Qutb? He remembers Qutb, doesn't he -- the man who came to America in the late 1940s for two years, the man who was disgusted by those church socials, and above all that hideous and dangerous square-dancing -- "Swing your ladies and dosido, and don't step on your partner's toe"? Does he not realize that it was this, and not Internet pornography or Howard Stern's surpassing vulgarity, that offended and offends Muslims?

The humorlessness ("There is no humor in Islam," said the Ayatollah Khomeini) and joylessness of Islam manifests the phoniness of its "morality," a morality that is phony because it is merely the outward face of hidden decadence. Does Dinesh D'Souze not know that Saudi Arabia, where "morality" on the street is a function of the mutawwa, the Saudi version of religious enforcers for which there are analogues in other Muslim countries with rigorously faith-based legal systems, the real behavior of any Saudi who can get away with it is far more decadent than anything that could be dreamed up by the most decadent Westerners? Has he no idea how Saudis and other rich Arabs behave in the capitals of the West? Does he not know what they all do behind their palace walls in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the U.A.E.? What does he think goes on? And aside from the sexual behavior, what does he make of the camel-racing in which four and five year old boys, Pakistanis for the most part, are tied to the camels, and frequently are severely wounded or killed, and are treated as expendable beings, as are so many non-Arabs all over those horrific countries?

And what does he think is the Muslim attitude toward devout, pious, Orthodox Jews, family values and all -- whether in Antwerp, or Jerusalem, or Williamsburg? Does he think that Muslims are so pleased by the "family values" of these people that they find a natural affinity with them, wish them well, do not wish them harm? Is that what it says in the Qur'an: respect and honor Jews and Christians until such time as they begin to exhibit the features of modern, early 21st century, corrupted Western man, and only then? If so, why are the canonical texts full of inculcated hatred, even murderous hatred, of Jews and Christians who were as devout, as self-effacing, as pious, as full of family values, as a hundred Leagues of Decency together could not possibly observe?

Dinesh D'Souza is in some ways akin to Pat Buchanan. Buchanan's antisemitism prevents him from supporting Israel or understanding that the Lesser Jihad against Israel is no different in kind from the Jihad now being pursued against non-Muslims in Western Europe and elsewhere. In Dinesh D'Souza's case, he seems to have become such a Moralist of the cheapest, most narrow and obvious League-of-Decency kind, that seeing Muslim girls, for example, modestly dressed, has led him to forget all the rest of Islam: the Islam that divides the world between Believer and Infidel.

Part of the sinister missionary work being undertaken by the members of Hizb al Tahrir is devoted to converting prisoners, especially those who are black or Hispanic. They appeal to them by claiming that Islam is all about "social justice." It isn't. It is in the Muslim countries where whoever seizes or inherits power manages to steal much of the country's wealth: think of Mubarak in Egypt. Think of the Hashemites in Jordan (not much wealth, so the CIA has been supplementing, or at least used to, the call-girl bills of the ruler). Think of the al-Saud princes, tens of thousands of them, helping themselves to trillions of dollars of money that rightly belongs to every person in "Saudi" Arabia. And the same is true in Kuwait, in the U.A.E., in Qatar. And in Algeria, and Syria, and Morocco and Pakistan. This business of "social justice" is nonsense, a misunderstanding of the fact that people can attend the same mosque, and prostrate themselves next to someone much richer or much poorer. But that has no effect on political power or the sharing or proper distribution of the national wealth.

Dinesh D'Souza is, on the right, the equivalent of Richard Reid or Jose Padilla or any black radical who converts to Islam or joins the Nation of Islam (which is not strictly orthodox Islam), thinking that this will hasten the day of "social justice."

In Dinesh D'Souza's case, he sees Islam, the true and good and conservative family-values Islam, as the natural ally of all those who are offended by Western decadence. You don't like body-piercing or cocaine sniffing or non-stop sex at some bathhouse? Well, Dinesh D'Souza apparently believes that help is on the way-- help in the form of the inoffensive Qur'an, the innocent Hadith, the mild-mannered "peacemaker" (Karen Armstrong's epithet) Muhammad as described in the Sira.

Dinesh D'Souza -- brother under the skin to Richard Reid. To Jose Padilla. To Mahdi Bray. They joined an imaginary Islam of "social justice." And Dinesh D'Souza defends an imaginary Islam of "family values."

The first two are behind bars (Padilla is awaiting trial). Dinesh D'Souza, however, is published by Doubleday and National Review, and is not being denounced by his colleagues, or sent to permanent Coventry.

When the day of reckoning comes, when those who wrote truthfully and intelligently about Islam, liberal or conservative, are validated in every way, and the assorted "liberals" and "conservatives" who told nonsense and lies about Islam are exposed, then all kinds of things will happen. Many will, or should, lose their Important Positions.

He's a fool, but not a fool to be taken in isolation. His foolishness is that of the self-assured know-nothing, the Podsnap of this New Age, who does not know, and does not wish to know, about all kinds of things, for if he did know, they would Offend Him. Like Podsnap, Dinesh D'Souza has the habit of putting all disagreeables about Islam out of sight, out of mind.

With this book, he should lose any residual respect any one of sense might once have harbored for him. He has lost the right to an audience. He should no longer be given a hearing at National Review or, for that matter, anywhere else that wishes to be taken seriously.

This book is beyond the pale. Beyond all pales.

Posted by Hugh at January 18, 2007 9:02 AM
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Yeah, well Dinesh converted to Christianity and is now trying to please the Republican Jesus crowd. He probably doesn't think too well of Hindus either. Now we gotta keep things in perspective. The radical Muslims are much more of a threat, but I detect some distinctly unpleasant theocratic odors from certain sectors of the GOP. I'm with the truly secular conservatives, like Heather Mac Donald, the babe with brains. True conservatives don't go off half-cocked on crusades to democratize those who cannot be democratized.

Posted by: Benjamin [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 9:12 AM

"The humorlessness ("There is no humor in Islam," said the Ayatollah Khomeini) and joylessness of Islam manifests the phoniness of its "morality," a morality that is phony because it is merely the outward face of hidden decadence".

Sometimes I really wonder if Islam was invented by a machine. It seems this "religion" would be a machine's concept of spirituality, minus humor, joy, a soul or any other human qualities since no machine can have them. No wonder its followers seem like robots or mindless zombies.

By the way, I don't think D"Souza will be engaging in any debates with the heads of Jihad Watch-looks like Hugh has cut him down quite easily here!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 9:17 AM

But more than that, D’Souza ignores the 1350 years of Jihad-conquest, or apparently thinks that because the military means involved did not include bombs on airplanes, those conquests were not Jihad and certainly not terrorism. No, there were no bombs on airplanes during those 1300 years of Jihad-conquest. Nor were there I.E.D.s blowing up Humvees when the Muslims conquered the Middle East and North Africa, or when the Seljuk Turks conquered most of Anatolia and the Ottoman Turks finished the rest of the conquering, nor when Sassanian Persia, or Hindu India, were conquered.

Let's not forget to mention the Armenian genocide by name.

Posted by: infidel! [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 9:37 AM

There are many who fail the see Islams true colors...but they are learning.....Islam is doomed once the truth is understood about Islam...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 9:44 AM

Hugh,
Many thanks for your elucidation and instruction, not only here, but over the years.
Thinking of the Dinesh view that history does not exist or it began yesterday, one is brought to mind the CBC Broadcasting Corp in Canada, a state owned institution which leans heavily to the left and which also has no sense of history or reality.
It produces a show called "Little Mosque On the Prairie" which attempts a sitcom - a feelgood and fictive view of islam, totally ignoring local history of lets say violent aggressive islam against other students at Concordia in Montreal, or the plots to behead the Prime Minister or bomb Parliamint in Ottawa by islamists.
These socialist fools truly have their heads up their butts or their brains have turned to mush given what they must have been smoking, and they do a disservice to the West and our ability to defend ourselves.
Speak the truth, and these fools can ignore just so long.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 9:53 AM

Of course Islam is a peaceful religion! It's been hijacked by extremists in recent decades.

Islam has been around for 1600 years, but you never saw any muslims threatening to fly airliners into buildings or threatening to detonate nuclear weapons until the 1900s. Therefore, until the 1900s, it was a peaceful religion.

Oh, wait a minute. You say people didn't fly in jumbo jets before the 1900s? Nukes weren't around 1600 years ago? *Dinesh slaps his head* Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Posted by: Menetheos [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 10:05 AM

The Publishers Weekly review of Dinesh's book at Amazon.com is also scathing but from a more or less leftist perspective:

http://www.amazon.com/Enemy-At-Home-Cultural-Responsibility/dp/0385510128/sr=8-1/qid=1164777455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-8637860-8936453?ie=UTF8&s=books

Conservative pundit D'Souza (Illiberal Education) roots the blame for the 9/11 attacks in the left wing's "aggressive global campaign to undermine the traditional patriarchal family" in this mostly lucid but unconvincing argument. Pointing to Hillary Clinton, Britney Spears and Noam Chomsky, he decries those who have teamed up with Hollywood and the U.N. to foist an irreligious, sexually licentious, antifamily liberal culture—epitomized by Eve Ensler's play The Vagina Monologues and gay marriage initiatives—on a Muslim world that rightly reviles it. By deliberately attacking Islamic values, the left tacitly allies itself with al- Qaeda in its effort to defeat Bush's war on terror and thus discredit conservatism at home, he asserts. But D'Souza's claim that Islamic extremists are inflamed solely by America's music videos and feminists—not its U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or American support for Muslim dictators—is too single-minded. For example, he paints Abu Ghraib poster-girl Lynndie England as the personification of liberal sexual depravity, without acknowledging that the U.S. Army sent her to Iraq, not the left. Charging that liberals aid terrorists while sympathizing with the terrorists' culturally conservative worldview, D'Souza's critique of American cultural excess trips over its own inconsistencies. (Jan. 16)
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Posted by: Mentat [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 10:08 AM

Why do scholars who pretend to know something about Islam often ignore what is written in Islamic canonical texts and ignore what Muslim scholars, themselves, write about Islam? They prefer to create their own "fantasy" version of Islam as it better suits their "kumbaya", "let's all hold hands" vision of the world. I still find it shocking how much deliberate ignorance can exist in this world. As Isaiah Berlin said: "An ideologue is someone who is willing to suppress what he suspects to be true."

Posted by: Mentat [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 10:17 AM

I don't know what is going on with D'Souza. I have heard him speak on television a couple of times and he does not strike me as a stupid man. I think he may be suffering from the all-too common case of willful denial. Too many people in the world seem to think if they just put their hands over their eyes, close their ears, and think happy thoughts, the muslim threat will somehow magically go away. Unfortunately for him and others like him, the problem is not going to go away. The more they ignore it, the worse and worse it is going to become. Islam is exactly like a growing cancer. You can't negotiate with it or have peace with it. It must ruthlessly be cut out like the tumor it is.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 10:18 AM

It sounds like D'Souza gets his knowledge of Islam from Bernard Lewis and Karen Armstrong. You know, antisemitism is a modern import from the West to Islam and that Islam was never an aggressor, but only defending itself from 'oppression.'

What he does have in common with many other dhimmis is the overwhelming ability to ignore historical facts and what his eyes and ears see before him. I wonder what he thinks about that Ch4 expose on mosques in London where the Muslims are all excited about Islam's future conquest of England and Europe and the subjugation of the infidels. Does he consider that 'extremist' or 'traditional' Islam?

Posted by: John Sobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 10:39 AM

Hugh,

is this D'Souza really worth your time? Is he that well known or well read? Can he do that much damage to bother?

I fear people like Christiane Amanpour from CNN with her latest BS- report 'The War Within' will probably do a lot more to harm our cause. I have seen a the trailers and she spouts the same nonsense from way back when.
Here's an excerpt:

'There is no denying that the radical foreign policy adopted since 9/11 has caused an enormous amount of anxiety and anger across the board. They are fed up with their religion being hijacked and the whole Muslim community being targeted with suspicion of terrorism. But they are motivated to see what they can do about it.'

For somebody who has been born in Iran and who has been travelling the region extensively she should know better. I suspect she is being paid to misinform. I simply can't believe that anyone who has all that access to information can remain so ignorant & stupid.
Here's a link:

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article2157413.ece

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 11:06 AM

"Is this D'Souza really worth your time?"
-- from a posting above

How much time do you think I have devoted to D'Souza, or would?

"Is he that well known or well read?"
--- same posting

Yes.
No.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 11:15 AM

holy warrior,
I have an idea. Why don't you ask a muslim about that "one God" deal. Yes he will tell you there is one God, but only allah is the one god.
Can't be.
Allah orders muslims to subjugate the entire world,
allah tells the believers to kill all unbelievers if they refuse to serve allah.
The God of the Bible loves the Jews, calls them the "apple of his eye".
Allah is a desert god of pre-islamic history, one of 360 gods.
Your statement is just ludicrus.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 11:48 AM

Don't misunderstand me.
I too believe there is just one God, and it sure isn't allah.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 11:51 AM
The radical Muslims are much more of a threat, but I detect some distinctly unpleasant theocratic odors from certain sectors of the GOP. I'm with the truly secular conservatives, like Heather Mac Donald, the babe with brains. True conservatives don't go off half-cocked on crusades to democratize those who cannot be democratized. Posted by: Benjamin
Benjamin

Although I'm no Christian, I trust the fundamentalist Evangelical & Catholic Christians more on this issue than the Liberal churches that sing kumbaya with the Muslims. I don't care much for Christians/Churches that like Hindus, if that's a part of a bigger vision that like Muslims/Islam as well. Granted that the former may not be respectful at all of non-Abrahamic faiths, but right now, in this confrontation, I'm more interested in those who oppose Islam than I am in Hinduism/Buddhism/Confucianism/etc being liked. However, for 'social' conservatives like Buchanan and D'Souza above, I have nothing but the deepest of contempt.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 12:49 PM

There were two maulana brothers, who associated with Gandhi. Though impressed by Gandhi's morality, one of them said that he would consider an immoral, alcoholic, adulterer, gambling muslim more pious than Gandhi.
'No compulsion in religion' is so often stated by Muslims. But rendering non muslims as guilty of infidelity, leading a sinful life without allah, and how soul could only be saved on conversion to Islam, many muslims have considered that using force is a mild thing to put an end to destructive infidelity.

Posted by: pagan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 18, 2007 4:34 PM


Well, yes, yes, yes, yes and probably about the things with which I'm not familiar BUT --

One exception -- Pat Buchanan has something Dinesh d'Souse (that's SOUS-AY as W.C. Fields would have had it) doesn't -- certainly he has blind spots, mostly to do with Jews, BUT Buchanan actually has a sense of humor.

My thoughts -- posted yesterday -- on Souse:

*****
Why in hell does anyone still pay attention to ANYTHING said by the right-wing club at Stanford called the Hoover Institution?

Just list ANY topic and you can write their headlines from a multiple-choice list:

ANYTHING GOOD:

a. Result of Reagan's policies
b. Product of Capitalism
c. Result of the Emergence of the Right-Wing (conservative) Majority
etc...


ANYTHING BAD:

a. Caused by Liberals (Jimmy Carter)
b. Caused by Liberals (Ted Kennedy)
c. Caused by Liberals (Bill Clinton)
d. Caused by Liberal Press

**********

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