"There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid,"

Well "holy man, what are YOU waiting for? Go martyr yourself.

Islam-"religion" of misunderstanding and misinterpretation.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 19, 2007 8:51 AM

ISLAMSFORLOSERS:

Dont forget mistranslation and miscontextualization.

Posted by: Vince at January 19, 2007 8:53 AM

Funny how much these imams advocate their love for martyrdom and how few either go for it themselves or send their own children off, isn't it?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 19, 2007 9:03 AM

""That remark was made in the heat of the moment and I regret it,"

.....Seems like we have heard this before.....Muslims are good at becoming aggressive "in the heat of the momemt"...we see it all the time in their mass protests....The problem is they are just saying what they believe....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 19, 2007 9:08 AM

Dont forget mistranslation and miscontextualization.

Posted by: Vince at January 19, 2007 08:53 AM

How true! You'd think after 1400 years they'd get at least some of this right already!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 19, 2007 9:08 AM

I don't believe in violence against others, we denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral.

This is a bald-faced lie. Violence against others is commanded by Allah.

A question for Aussies: Do any of your police or prosecutors or judges know how to read? Just one literate prosecutor is all that it would take.

It's right there in the book. Every one of your Oz Mo "citizens" must be put up on felony sedition charges today, to be serious about it.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 19, 2007 9:09 AM

Here let me fix what Seyit really meant .....Seyit dismissed the furor over the sheik's remarks as "another case of Islam bashing" in Australia, but acknowledged that Muslim leaders "do have to be very responsible about how they conduct themselves .. (when infidels may be listening) (scratch "in public")."

Posted by: John Sobieski at January 19, 2007 9:10 AM

Re: Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood

This is the kind of deceptive Pharisee that is behind the violence. Jihad violence will end when the deception ends, the stunts end. When Muslims are in reality what they appear to be, when they speak with no hidden agenda, when they say in public what they say in private, when they cease to be hypocrites, the violence will end.

This "cleric" makes the snowballs and has others throw them for him. He is deception, he is cowardice, he is Islam. War is deception. Deception is war. The dishonesty and deception of Muslims, especially "moderate Muslims" is the sickness of Islam. Jihad is merely a symptom of this sickness.

Posted by: Frank at January 19, 2007 9:12 AM

Muslims are taught to hate....

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at January 19, 2007 9:16 AM

"misunderstood, misinterpreted, out of context . . . "

Liar, liar, robe's on fire!

not even your secret koran decoder ring will save you now

we got your number!

[not that it'll do us any good. Hard to get 'em out of your hair once they's in there.]

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 19, 2007 9:16 AM

"However, Rahim Ghauri, leader of the Islamic Council of Western Australia, said the Islamic community should not be held accountable for one cleric's offensive remarks."

........Yes they should!...Every leader of every country.... every ceo of every business....every parent of every child....is in someway accountable for the actions of those under their control or supervision....

It is a well know fact, Muslims cannot control their own....Islam is doomed.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 19, 2007 9:19 AM

"There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid,"

Grant him his wish!

Posted by: sounder at January 19, 2007 9:28 AM

I didn't actually MEAN that you should MURDER someone when I said that you should cut their head off. I meant that you should stop them 'thinking'. Cutting off the head is really all about personal enlightenment.

I regret that I have used the word barbarian mud-shack dwellers. I was writing in the heat of the moment, when a mob strung up contractors in Iraq.

What a bunch of demonic liars.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 19, 2007 9:31 AM

The "holies" sure are something-they want everyone to love death and become martyrs. Everyone except themselves that is.

And the Koran calls for what punishment for hypocrisy? Let it be applied to those "holies", since they also love sharia so much.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 19, 2007 9:44 AM

Inspired by all the imams who have been lately taken out of context, I wrote an out-of-context imam song:

http://izrailit.blogspot.com/2007/01/out-of-context-imam-song.html

Shouldn't probably link to myself, but I think this might amuse you guys.

Posted by: Vera at January 19, 2007 9:54 AM

"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence," he was quoted as saying. "It is one of personal struggle against things like mischievousness, temptation and personal harm."

How is "wanting to die as a Mujahid" related to a ". . personal struggle against things like mischievousness. . . "

Maybe it's just my infidel stupidity, but I'm not making the connection there shiek.

For being a mooslim leader he's not a very good liar.

Posted by: walterc at January 19, 2007 9:58 AM

I think everyone I disagree with should be stoned to death and then walked on by horses!

Don't misunderstand me. By that statement I meant that all people should be treated as equals and no harm should befall anyone, no matter their beliefs. You guys are so darned quick to misinterpret.

Hmm, I bet I'd make a good imam for Australia. ;)

Posted by: Goob at January 19, 2007 10:05 AM

Of these imans who encourage others to go on suicide bombings, has there ever been an instance of an iman doing it themselves?
It makes me wonder whether they actually believe it themselves, or whether they just get a fiendish thrill out of conning people to go and get killed.

Posted by: Elephant at January 19, 2007 10:10 AM

Sheik Feiz's centre gets funding

GOVERNMENT officials met members of the Islamic youth centre run by a cleric accused of inciting terrorism and labelling Jews as pigs to tell them funding was available to develop future Islamic leaders.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21088296-661,00.html

My tax dollars at work.

Posted by: savitch at January 19, 2007 10:15 AM

Right you are Elephant! This man is demonstrably a liar and a coward. No doubt he is too valuable to allah to become a martyr himself.

Posted by: MP at January 19, 2007 10:15 AM

How many times have we heard that excuse from clerics,and sheikes over the past years. We saw how Arafat gave hateful speeches in Arabic to his Palestinian followers and then spoke in peaceful terms to us infidels in English. We saw the televised exchange between x-muslim Wafi Sultan when the Sheike told her that the Quran could not be understood unless you could read Arabic, never mind that over 85 Pct of the worlds Muslims do not speak Arabic. We see Abbas in Palestine giving the incitefull speeches in Arabic that his predecessor did and trying to speak peaceful to us kaffirs in English.

This is something that goes on every day, but of course they are just doing a poor job of practicing taquiya and kitman. Essentially they are given the right to lie about what they do or say to us infidels in the Quran. Keep in mind that they where suppose to practice deception among non-muslims if they where in the Dar-al-harb, thus what is he and other Muslims saying to us?--Answer: they are at war with the non-Muslim world!

Posted by: Mackie at January 19, 2007 10:20 AM

Damn you, Vera!

Now I can't get your version of that musical out of my head!

Posted by: PRCS at January 19, 2007 10:23 AM

Nobody is Oz will call Sheikh Feiz out for the liar and traitor he is cuz everybody's askeert of the 6th Pillar of Islam.

But there's a simple way out of this. If millions of people accorded the profound disrespect and derision is absolutely deserves and must have, if we are to survive, if those millions all publicly insulted Islam on the same day, there'd be too many people to for the Moslems to stab to death.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 19, 2007 10:43 AM

Another day, another hatred-spewing, violence junkie.

For those in the UK, i came across this on my ramblings...believe it or not, its a UK Govt website for online petitions...

Here are two that caught my eye and may be of interest to UK citizens who visit JW:

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stem the flow of immigrants into the UK

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/econmigration/
(Submitted by Jason Soraff – Deadline to sign up by: 16 February 2007 – Signatures: 646)

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop all immigration

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/britain/
(Submitted by jeffrey gilbert – Deadline to sign up by: 31 January 2007 – Signatures: 107)

I will post this on related sites, use the freedom we enjoy to do the same.

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at January 19, 2007 10:46 AM

If there were any question in my mind if I was going to host video of Sheikh Feiz Mohammed, I guess that's been answered with this article. I'll have a direct link to him in my Multimedia by this afternoon. I've already got 100 megs of him stored up for if-and-when the links break.

Posted by: Foehammer at January 19, 2007 11:07 AM

The Sheikh is not just lying, he is expressing contempt. Yes, he understands exactly what he said, and he understands that the listeners can see the video for themselves. He's saying "So what? F**k off, infidels"

Posted by: PapaBear at January 19, 2007 11:11 AM

I'm getting faster. Video is up.

http://foehammer.net

Posted by: Foehammer at January 19, 2007 11:28 AM

"However, Rahim Ghauri, leader of the Islamic Council of Western Australia, said the Islamic community should not be held accountable for one cleric's offensive remarks."

Yeah, right.

Just like the Christian community wasn't held accountable for truthful remarks made by Pope B16. Except for the Chritians that were murdered by muslims, or beat up by muslims, or the churches that were burned and desecrated by muslims following B16's remarks.

Posted by: omvi at January 19, 2007 11:32 AM

"Fiery Australian cleric ..."

If only this were literally true.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at January 19, 2007 11:47 AM

The mullahs and imams bring the curse of Allah down on the ummah. Allah is a curse on His believers by any standard you'd care to mention -- by any measure.

Islam is a plague on this Earth and the free peoples of the world need to be innoculated. The ummah is a nation sans frontières . Islam is a peste sans frontières. We need more Médecins de Jihad sans frontières

More jihad doctors needed.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 19, 2007 11:50 AM

From above:

Ghauri and other Muslim leaders declined to speculate on the meaning of Mohammed's videotaped remarks, but said the concept of jihad and religious martyrdom was often misunderstood by the non-Muslim public.

"religious martyrdom"

You don't need a degree in Quranology to know what "religious martyrdom' means.

I'd like to know, what part "religous martyrdom" plays in that great "inner struggle" that these muslim leaders talk about?

Posted by: crusader619 at January 19, 2007 12:06 PM

Let's see:
They move their muslim a$$es to the land of the "kuffaar"....
Then they whine and moan about being under "kufaar" laws and they must change everything about our lands.
They must be sent back to their own lands. They don't belong here. Islam and freedom cannot co-exist.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at January 19, 2007 12:14 PM

It was all the heat of the moment and now he regrets it.....
Typical of lunatics as animals who beat their children and wives to death always "regret" it after they are caught and exposed. Just like every turban head who blew themselves to hell regrets now that God judges it as murder and not what the local union imam #107 was goading them into.

When are Muslim males going to start asking some very important questions like:

Why is it their leaders all want them to murder themselves while the officials all sit in luxury and have stolen millions on their bank accounts while the masses chant their names?
Maybe the big shot Muslims don't want to leave here because they already got the girls and the rivers of gold and by distracting Muslim males how they are being screwed over with a fake enemy...well the Muslims will not have a real revolution and take the bank accounts and the women for themselves.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at January 19, 2007 12:28 PM

What really gets me is they truly believe they are better than anyone else, yet they have contributed very little to technology or anything else for that matter. They are elitists without having anything to be elite about. They're not even good soldiers, they hide behind women and children and don't wear uniforms. The brainwashers will never sacrifice themselves, too cowardly, preferring to have the weak minded sacrifice themselves.

By the way, will someone tell me what a Goob is? Several people have this name here and I have no idea what it means.

Posted by: Bonniea at January 19, 2007 12:33 PM

Has this guy not apologized for the damage he may have caused - in that some, many, or all of his congregants on the day in question might also have taken his quotes out of context? If he is to be taken at his word, he is admitting to leading his flock astray. Apologies are worthless at this point: he needs to make restitution.

Posted by: Greek Fire at January 19, 2007 12:39 PM

"Jihad ... means to eschew those types of things in our lives which we see as negative, such as promiscuity and drugs and stealing," said Kuranda Seyit, of the Forum on Australia's Islamic Relations.

LOL so when the Koran says "wage jihad on the unbeliever". It REALLY means.......

Take away their drugs (and sell them for weapons), stop their theft (take their hands and feet off with a machette) and reduce numbers in promiscuity (take their women and marry them and rape them, then kill all the men infidels whilst raping their women.)

I think thats what Jihad may mean thanks to Kuranda Seyit..............

Posted by: W_D_J_D at January 19, 2007 12:46 PM

"They must be sent back to their own lands. They don't belong here. Islam and freedom cannot co-exist".-Carolyn2

I think that's where things are going in this matter. The crawl-between-toes deception-hypocrisy that is so much a part of Islam will finally cause non-Muslims to be totally alienated from them. It's impossible to form human relationships with deceivers. It's impossible. Trust is the foundation of all human relationships. (Agreement on issues etc. is not as important as knowing where people really stand on matters.)

Americans admire Harry Truman, Abe Lincoln style honesty and plain speaking and all that is really traced back to the Christian (Christ) condemnation of hypocrisy-deception. Muslims have the ethics of Hitler re deception. They stink.

Posted by: Frank at January 19, 2007 12:48 PM

"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence," he was quoted as saying. "It is one of personal struggle against things like mischievousness, temptation and personal harm."--Sheikh Feiz Mohammed

We've seen a lot of imams and sheikhs talking about mischief/corruption...

{"What is Mischief ?

Mischief, also translated as corruption, has a wide variety of meanings in the Koran. Essentially, it refers to actions, words and expressions, and practices that come into conflict or opposition to Islam. The Arabic word for mischief is fasad, and words with similar meaning use the consonant sequence f-s-d (e.g., mufsidun means "mischief-makers"). According to the above-quoted tafsirs, disbelief (i.e., polytheism, idolatry; or disbelieving in Islam, etc.) is under the category of mischief/corruption (Ibn Kathir cites disbelief in his tafsir of 5:33). Ishaq Zahid's compiled Glossary of Islamic terms gives the following definition:

"Fasad, literally 'corruption', in Qur'anic terminology, means creating disorder and corruption on earth by following a path other than God's. Islam maintains that true peace and happiness emanate only through the observance of God's commands and through making a conscious effort to see that His laws alone are implemented in every sphere of life. Fasad occurs when man violates God's laws and disobeys Him. Fasad may therefore be partial as well as total; partial when one disregards God's law in one aspect of life while acknowledging His sovereignty in other spheres. If a society is based on the denial of God, that society is bound to be a corrupt and exploitative society - hence full of fasad." (2)

Spreading mischief in the land (fasad fil-ardh), also referred to as corruption on earth, corruption in the land, etc., is punishable by death.(3) . Killing someone for "mischief (or corruption) in the earth/land" is ordered in some cases, depending on the severity of the transgression (see discussion of 5:33, below). Corruption/mischief on earth is a huge category of offences, violent or non-violent, that are deemed to go significantly against Islam or Islamic society. Google "corruption on earth" + "death penalty" to get an idea of the range of offences considered to fit that category today in some strict Islamic countries. These crimes vary widely, including, for a few examples, criticizing or calling for changes in Islamic traditions; practicing "sorcery"; engaging in "charlatanism"; sex between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman; highway robbery; destruction of buildings; terrorism against Muslims).

...

A popular website lists the main crimes in the category of mischief (fasad fil-ardh) (3), also see (5). These include "treason/ apostasy (when one leaves the faith and turns against it), terrorism, piracy of any kind, rape, adultery, homosexual activity." This is not a definitive list, and some comments of clarification are in order to address the way this list has been presented.

First, note that apostasy need not involve treason; sane adults (those past the age of puberty) guilty of simple apostasy who merely make their apostasy public, and who refuse to revert back to Islam when given the opportunity to do so, are to be executed. This policy is still enforced in several Islamic countries and is considered valid according to the major schools of Islamic jurisprudence today. (There are some exceptions, e.g., in some cases female apostates are given other penalties such as imprisonment instead of execution). A critical discussion of apostasy in Islam can be found at this link (6). Conservative Muslim leader Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi's attempt to defend the apostasy penalty can be found here (7), while Jamal Badawi has presented a case against Qaradawi's conclusions (8)

Second, terrorism is not permitted against true Muslims, but is permitted, in the service of Islam's goals, against non-Muslims (8:60, 3:151, 33:26, etc.). Indeed, terrorism is not only permitted in Islam, but it is glorified, celebrated. Mohammad said: "I have been made victorious with terror" (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220). A comprehensive assessment of Mohammad's terrorism, written by Abul Kasem, is available on-line (9)

Third, it is misleading to say that piracy (or highway robbery) "of any kind" was forbidden, because a thorough assessment of Mohammad's tactics showed that he and his men raided caravans. (9) Mohammad's own statements are most incriminating: "Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: "Allah's Apostle said, "Booty has been made legal for me."" (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 351). The law against piracy applies when the victims are Muslims or the Muslim society.

Fourth, rape, as in a man forcing or coercing a female to have sexual intercourse against her will, is permitted for Muslim men who have sexual intercourse with their non-Muslim female war captives or slaves, or females regarded as such, according to the Koran, Sunnah, and Islamic law (10)

Fifth, adultery, sodomy, and lesbianism are all punishable by death in Islam, according to the Reliance of the Traveller (which I will abbreviate as RT), a book of Shafi'i Sunni Islamic law (see RT, o12.1, o12.2; and p17.1, p17.2, p17.3). This text is still endorsed today by the world's top Islamic institution, Al-Azhar University in Cairo, and the text is generally consistent with the current laws in the other schools of Sunni and Shia Islam. Wherever these laws are fully in effect, the death penalty is still carried out. Recently in Iraq, Shia leader Al-Sistani ordered the death of homosexuals (11). Likewise, Iraqi Ayatollah Al-Baghdadi stated: "Same-sex marriages means a marriage of a man with a man, or a woman with a woman. This is a terrible catastrophe, totally forbidden by Islam. Whoever marries someone of the same sex must be killed. Both must be killed as soon as possible and must be burned as well." (12) Recently, Iraqi police killed 14-year-old boy who was alleged to be a homosexual (13).

Sixth, omitted from the list is blasphemy, though blasphemy fits into the above-described conception of mischief/corruption in the land. Blasphemy is defined in T. P. Hughes' Dictionary of Islam generally as "(Kufr) 'to hide' (the truth). It includes a denial of any of the essential principles of Islam. A Muslim convicted of blasphemy is sentenced to death in Muhammadan countries." (14) The Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam (1990) states: "Article 22 (a) Everyone shall have the right to express his opinion freely in such manner as would not be contrary to the principles of the Shari'ah." (15) Death is the standard penalty for blasphemy under sharia (16). In Muslim countries which do not give the death penalty for blasphemy, there are often other penalties such as jail terms (17). The ahadith and Sira state that Mohammad had critics, and satirical poets assassinated for their words against Islam (18), (19), (20). "}

Posted by: Archimedes at January 19, 2007 1:09 PM

When are Muslim males going to start asking some very important questions like:

Why is it their leaders all want them to murder themselves while the officials all sit in luxury and have stolen millions on their bank accounts while the masses chant their names?

Posted by: Lame Cherry at January 19, 2007 12:28 PM

The answer to that question may very well be "Never." After countless centuries of inbreeding between close cousins, families, and tribes and being conditioned to blindly follow the commands of their perverted leaders, muslims have genetically devolved to the point where intellectually they may be only one step above apes. A reverse of Darwinian evolution has taken place and the muslims are now a subspecies of humanity. Simple and obvious questions like that no longer cross their tiny little minds anymore. They think no more than a mean, rabid dog thinks.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 19, 2007 2:24 PM

There can be few westerners who are not angered to the point of outrage by all that the islamic world is doing to us, slowly and deliberately chipping away at our foundations, and diluting our sense of security, but it seems to me that whenever they carry out their abominations they judge our response accurately enough to be able to just stop short of bringing us to the boil. They seem to be able to judge it by a fraction of a degree. All we do is respond to that specific abomination. Where is our initiative? Our resolve to carry it further does not develop, and we end up frittering away massive resources time after time after time. It can't have escaped their notice that they have us by the proverbial, but why haven't we been able to see it too?

It is obvious that one day, when (but hopefully, if) our involvement with this cancer, on our own shores becomes personal, blood will flow in torrents. Let us make our plans to prevent this long before it becomes an inevitability.

Posted by: jake at January 19, 2007 3:21 PM

Nice one, Vera :)

Posted by: Mike_W at January 19, 2007 3:43 PM

I guess Feizzy lacks sufficent skills in Arabic that would allow him to say I hate you and want you killed in a politically correct way.

I thought for sure he was saying that to The Alustralians. Now I'm all confused. Does he just want to kill them? or does he just want them dead?

Posted by: flowerknife_us at January 19, 2007 3:46 PM

The "sheik" is a very young Australian born Lebanese man. I have seen the actual speech on the T.V. and he spoke in English, not Arabic (which is alien to Lebanese anyway). It is significant to not that this "imam" fled to Lebanon a short time before 23 Muslims were arrested on potential terrorism charges. Is there a connection?

According to other members of the Lebanese Islamic Association Keyser Trad is not the head of that group. He sees himself in that role, but it is all smoke and mirrors, and he is the eternal apologist when these "imams" get caught telling the Koranic truth to us poor infidels who do not know Arabic.

Feiz is under investigation by the Australian police, and I think that you can expect to hear more about this dude, and what he really "preaches". There is a link between this Liverpool group, the Lakemba mosque and radical Muslims (who are the minority) in Australia.

Posted by: Maggie4Life at January 20, 2007 2:42 AM

However, Rahim Ghauri, leader of the Islamic Council of Western Australia, said the Islamic community should not be held accountable for one cleric's offensive remarks.

I was under the impression that one is guilty of any crimes committed by the contract killer one has hired!

Posted by: Shahryar at January 20, 2007 4:13 AM