Good luck Mr. Netanyahu. The lefty press and the just give peace a chance people will fight you all the way.

Posted by: AMartinez at January 21, 2007 7:07 PM

I wish Bibi all the best because he will need it. And not just the best but Godspeed.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at January 21, 2007 7:07 PM

Incitement to riot; incitement to genocide, why not ? The only problem is, somebody's free speech is being violated. I don't see Iran as doing anything Chavez isn't doing: "Rattling Sabres." Big deal, America use to do that back in the 50's with the Super Power Syndrome, that appeared just after the "Aliens are Coming" syndrome !

Posted by: Jeff at January 21, 2007 7:18 PM

It is hard to believe the Israelis elected Olmert instead of Netanyahu as Prime Minister.
All the world is upside down and downside up.
Good luck Mr. Netanyahu.

Posted by: Mike_W at January 21, 2007 7:24 PM

There is some merit to the idea in that it will put some people on the spot. It will force some Eurabians and multiculturalists to chose sides on an issue where Israel is clearly in the right and in a very politically correct, underdog way.

However, I don't like the idea of legitimizing the International Court of Justice.

Posted by: Papa Bear at January 21, 2007 7:27 PM

Instead of trial, I have a better, more permanent solution: Assassination. A low level, high speed airstrike with bunker buster bombs on wherever the Iranian thug may be hunkered down is one option. I'm sure our intelligence services could think up others.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 21, 2007 7:30 PM

About time!

Ahmad SHOULD be held accountable for his statements; and they stand a very good chance of winning this proposed trial given the "1948 universal declaration of human rights."

Posted by: champ at January 21, 2007 7:44 PM

I have always liked Netanyahu, but this nonsense is what one gets when you think self deluded European judges are worth a tinker's damn. So Ahmadinejad gets convicted and he points his Shahab 3 with a nuclear tipped warhead courtesy of a Satan SS 20 at The Hague....that is called checkmate or shah maht.

Clinton thought he could police bin Laden and it cost America billions on 9 11 and will cost a trillion more.

Mr. Netanyahu show some testicle fortitude and stop being a pansy worried about the Olmert cabal and their big boy cartel in Europe in the Rothschilds and issue the following sentence.

IDF, the Iranian regime has chosen nuclear weapons as the match to threaten the Jewish state. You are authorized to retaliate on this genocide with nuclear weapons in full.

That is how one handles mahdi lunatics and sends messages to other mahdi lunatics in Hezbollah, Hama and Syria that their honey river bluff is called as those cowards don't want to die, but will with the use of force.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at January 21, 2007 7:49 PM

This is pro-active action. Worth doing even if the chances of bringing Ahma to justice are thin. But put him in the tight spot. Also, places Bibi in a good position for the next elections in Israel.

Posted by: calatrava at January 21, 2007 8:15 PM

I'm assuming that this is just a rhetorical exercise on Bibi's part?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 21, 2007 8:21 PM

"However, I don't like the idea of legitimizing the International Court of Justice.

Posted by: Papa Bear "

Agree. This is the part I am also not keen on. If I remember correctly wasn't the Hague after Sharon as a war criminal?

Apart from that I think any country that openly states another country should be wiped of the map should be dealt with severely. Trouble is who is going to do it? The Useless Nations?
They have already missed their chance.

Can you imagine if the US, the UK or anyone else said they wanted to wipe Iran, Syria or any other muslim nation off the map what would happen?
Said country would have a local muslim uprising on their hands in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Gramfan at January 21, 2007 8:23 PM

"Bibi.."
-- from the article above

There is something undignified about public figures in Israel being identified by their nicknames: Bibi this, and Zvika that, and Motti here, and Shmookie over there. Those who permit this do not sense it as infra dig, but I do. And if I knew Netanyahu, I would never call him "Bib" but always, "Benjamin."

And the same problem can be found in the United States, where everyone thinks it peachy that Carter called himself "Jimmy" and Clinton called himself "Bill." Those should be reserved for intimates. When some company calls, usually at dinner time, and some human (the computers are more polite) immediately begins to address you by a nickname (if your first name has an easy nickname to go with it, but some names, such as "Hugh," fortunately do not), hang that phone right up. You did not give them the right to address you in such manner. And if that nicknaming stuff doesn't infuriate you (be more infuriated -- please), then when they go into the business of employing that smarmy word (outside its legitimate use in the South) "folks" in order to establish that pseudo-intimacy (many are reading from cards telling them exactly how to overcome any resistance on the part of the person they are cold-calling) said to make someone more vulnerable to some offer, some new way to part you from your allowance -- you should not only hangup but tell them, just before, to straighten up and fly right linguistically, or you will have their guts for garters. Well, you don't have to add that last. But you know what I mean.

Posted by: Hugh at January 21, 2007 8:25 PM

Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a sock-puppet of the mullahs. His "tenure" is limited as this and this illustrates. There is at least one editor in the region who understands Ahmadinejad's ridiculous position.

The time of the Iranian mullah's along with their disposable sock-puppet is nearing an end.

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at January 21, 2007 8:35 PM

I think that this is just a play to force the Eurodhimmis to take a side. They have been neutral on the side of the Muslims for decades. Now they will have to admit they are for genocide or not. This will never make it to a court! Unless the Sunnis decide to make war on the Shia finally.

Posted by: belisariusx at January 21, 2007 8:51 PM

A "genocide" against Jews? Won't find much sympathy amongst the nations. Now, if someone had suggested wiping Islamics off the face of the Earth, there would have been such an outcry, you would have been able to hear it in outer Space."

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 21, 2007 9:24 PM

Hugh,

How about Hughie? Or Huey?

Calling Chavez "Huguito" makes him appear not as fierce a caudillo.

What's in a name? As you suggest, a lot. It might not change a man's characteristics, but it does change how other perceive and act towards him (or her [a woman], of course).

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 21, 2007 9:28 PM

Hugh,
I agree with your above post.
"Bibi" is utterly demeaning for any ex-PM.

When I get calls from telemarketers etc and the don't address me as "Mrs" they have lost me. I gave them no leave to use my first name.Hang up time.

If they don't pronounce my surname correctly, or even get close they get short shrift from me.
Just plain bad manners and disrespectful.

Posted by: Gramfan at January 21, 2007 9:29 PM

If they don't pronounce my surname correctly, or even get close they get short shrift from me.

Sorry - that should read "incorrectly".

"I think that this is just a play to force the Eurodhimmis to take a side"
Posted by: belisariusx

And we can all guess which side that will be!

Posted by: Gramfan at January 21, 2007 9:31 PM

The only problem is, somebody's free speech is being violated. I don't see Iran as doing anything Chavez isn't doing: "Rattling Sabres." Big deal, America use to do that back in the 50's with the Super Power Syndrome, that appeared just after the "Aliens are Coming" syndrome !

Posted by: Jeff

Iran is within missile range of Israel and they ARE determined to not only get rid of Israel, but also to rule the ME. The United States can handle Chavez.

Iran is running out of oil and they want to take over all the oil in the ME. They mean what they say and are a real threat to Israel and even to the other Islamic countries in the region.

Chavez is a loud-mouthed ass. Chavez and his clapping UN buddies lack class, much like our Democrat party. Enough said there.

The 'former' world powers in Europe - England, France, Germany and outside of Europe - we must include the 'has been' Russia...HATE the US because they have all become irrelevant. Any country that has become irrelevant will always resent a country that still has relevance. They're just jealous and it's very unbecoming. Chirac is the most pathetic of all. Tony Blair is being beaten up by the British public, because they still resent losing the US. They even resented our soldiers when we came to help them fight WWII. "Oversexed, overpaid and over here". The old saying because our soldiers were better off than theirs. Sad.

The US isn't the first superpower - in history there was Babylon, Persia, Romans and so on. All have their day and then someone else rises.

Careful that while you spend your energy hating the US and wishing them away, that you don't end up with something you'll regret....like say....a world of lefty-liberal, socialist, dimmis that hand over your rights and freedoms to Islam.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 21, 2007 9:37 PM

OT

Muslims riot in Bangalor on January 19, 2007 to protest execution of Saddam in December 2006

Twenty hurt in Indian protest at Saddam execution

At least 20 people were injured in Bangalore on Friday when police clashed with thousands of demonstrators protesting against the execution of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, police said.

Police fired shots in the air and used tear gas to disperse crowds when a peaceful demonstration by Muslims turned violent in the southern city, the centre of India's technology industry.

Posted by: ik at January 21, 2007 10:48 PM

Hugh, I also agree with your view on public figures. One thing that I cannot stand is when the press refers to the President as Bush. Not President Bush, I would guess it empowers the elite presscorp. They still will refer to the former Clinton and Carter as Presidents.

Posted by: AMartinez at January 21, 2007 10:52 PM

Careful that while you spend your energy hating the US and wishing them away, that you don't end up with something you'll regret....like say....a world of lefty-liberal, socialist, dimmis that hand over your rights and freedoms to Islam.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 21, 2007 09:37 PM

Well said, Goobs!

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 21, 2007 10:52 PM

"How about Hughie? Or Huey?

Calling Chavez "Huguito" makes him appear not as fierce a caudillo."
-- from a posting above

Better to set rules so that no one thinks he can, without express permission, call you by what he thinks might be a good nickname. And teachers must be trained not to do that with their charges, either. How do they know that one "Matthew" may not mind being called "Matt" and another one hate it? They should wait to be informed.

Using such forms to demean an enemy is self-defeating; it demeans only the user. Lots of people think it clever to twist the names of Ahmedinejad and Bin Laden; I can't stand it.

Posted by: Hugh at January 21, 2007 10:55 PM

Nope, sorry, bad idea.

In my half century plus I cannot think of any issue of public importance that has been satisfactorily settled by litigation. There is also the age old idea that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and there have been several calls for similar charges to be levied at both Bush and Blair.

The battle is the trial.

Victory is its own justification.

Beat him. Bury him. Forget him.

Posted by: USBeast at January 21, 2007 11:10 PM

Iran's President has pledged to eradicate Israel and the US.........when found guilty for inciting genocide, Israel then takes out iran's nuclear and military capabilities......or Israel takes out iran's nuclear capabilities anyway.......without a trial.............for self preservation.

Posted by: The Texican at January 22, 2007 1:29 AM

Why oh why does Iran still exist in its present
form ?
It has goaded and invited Israel to take action
against it and considering the threats it has made the international community should not
condemn Israel if it did.
I wonder if the same threats would be made to
the likes of China if it was one of Irans neighbours.
Israel has shown remarkable restraint...so far !

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at January 22, 2007 4:40 AM

The "sabre rattling" of the US was part of a policy which freed millions of people from communism.

I sincerely doubt Iran or Venezuela has the freedom of anyone in mind.

I would be more circumspect in making that comparison.

Posted by: infidel! at January 22, 2007 8:34 AM

"ISRAEL'S opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu said overnight he hoped to bring Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to international trial for incitement to genocide."

Yes, but where're you going to find an honest jury?

No Muslim's going to convict the man. They have less shame than the O.J. Simpson jurors.

We'll all be spending our days looking for a Zionist drug cartel.

Sorry, Benjamin, but "incitement to genocide" is as Muslim as apple pie -- or camel dung.

Posted by: rational at January 22, 2007 9:07 AM

"I want to call on the world, the world that did not stop the Holocaust last time, (to) stop any attempt at a future Holocaust this time,"

This is only partially true. The fact that we lost 150 thousand men? in world war two attests to the fact that yes the world did stop the holocaust the last time. Maybe the world did not know the extent of the atrocities until the end of the war, the fact of the matter is information WAS leaking out about the genocidal actions of the Nazis. That and the fact that there are survivors of the death camps shows that it was stopped albeit with a great loss of life. No survivors would indicate it wasn't stopped.

Posted by: havekoranwilltravel at January 22, 2007 11:15 AM

I wish that the United States government would get up the nerve to do the same thing.

We know for a fact that this man played a leadership role in the abductions of the American diplomats in the US Embassy in Tehran in the late 1970s. He was also an accessory to at least one murder.

"Oh! Mighty Nut Job" should be in a maximum security cell at a US penitentiary. For the remainder of his natural life.

The US can avoid a jury trial by holding a tribunal against this thug.

The US CAN DO this!

Any takers out there?????

Posted by: pythagoras at January 22, 2007 1:01 PM

For what it's worth, Ahmadinejad also violated Article 20(2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which Iran is a state party. Article 20(2) declares:

Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/a_ccpr.htm

Posted by: Mike at January 22, 2007 2:54 PM

I would also add, Mr. Netanyahu would be better off seeking to try Ahmadinejad for violating the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG), not the UDHR.

Article 3 of the CPPCG states:

The following acts shall be punishable:

(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d ) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide.

The CPPCG goes on to add:

Article 4

Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.

Article 5

The Contracting Parties undertake to enact, in accordance with their respective Constitutions, the necessary legislation to give effect to the provisions of the present Convention, and, in particular, to provide effective penalties for persons guilty of genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III.

Article 6

Persons charged with genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be tried by a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by such international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which shall have accepted its jurisdiction.

Article 7

Genocide and the other acts enumerated in article III shall not be considered as political crimes for the purpose of extradition.

The Contracting Parties pledge themselves in such cases to grant extradition in accordance with their laws and treaties in force.

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/p_genoci.htm

Unlike the CPPCG, the UDHR does not include mechanisms and procedures for prosecuting such violations.

Posted by: Mike at January 22, 2007 3:07 PM

re "nicknames" as touched on by Hugh:

Hugh, you mentioned that there are no diminutives for your name; that is why I threw some out. No disrespect to you intended.

As for Chavez. I know the type of Venezuelan represented by Hugo Chavez. Treating him with reverence and respect will only feed his hubris. Poking fun at dictators, deflates their egos.

Using a variation of Ahmadinejad's name is one way to remember--and remember how to spell--it. No need to worry about repecting him or the sanctity of his name (even if he is in contact with the 12th imam).

Bin Laden is beyond such tactics. He is a serious and determined jihadist. Beside him, Ahmadinejad is a posturing puppet representing the real jihadist threat, the mullahs spawned by the Ayatollah Khomeini.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at January 22, 2007 8:01 PM

"Hugh, you mentioned that there are no diminutives for your name; that is why I threw some out. No disrespect to you intended."
-- from a posting above

My posse was mad, man. Really mad. But I knew better. I knew you weren't dissin' me. I told them. They finally calmed down. But it wasn't easy.

Posted by: Hugh at January 23, 2007 12:09 AM