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January 24, 2007

Ahmadinejad: U.S., Israel will soon die

More declarations of war. "Iran: Israel, US will soon die: Ahmadinejad: Be assured that the US and Israel will soon end lives," by Yaakov Lappin in YnetNews, with thanks to Mackie:

Israel and the United States will soon be destroyed, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday during a meeting with Syria's foreign minister, the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) website said in a report.

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad… assured that the United States and the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives," the Iranian president was quoted as saying.

"Sparking discord among Muslims, especially between the Shiites and Sunnis, is a plot hatched by the Zionists and the US for dominating regional nations and looting their resources," Ahmadinejad added, according to the report.

The Iranian president also directly tied events in Lebanon to a wider plan aimed at Israel's destruction. He called on "regional countries" to "support the Islamic resistance of the Lebanese people and strive to enhance solidarity and unity among the different Palestinian groups in a bid to pave the ground for the undermining of the Zionist regime whose demise is, of course, imminent."

Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed.

Posted by Robert at January 24, 2007 10:50 AM
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How many times and in how many different wasy does this guy have to declare war on the U.S. before we take him serious?

Hell, even Hitler and Tojo were more discreet in thier pre-war retoric. Are we waiting for another Pearl Harbor?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:04 AM

Keep dreaming, Amatotalnutcase. Lots of people have tried to destroy the U.S., and they failed. They're the ones who are destroyed. Ask the Barbary Powers, Nazi Germany, Imperialist Japan, the Soviet Union. They failed, you'll fail. Because a few small fries got in some lucky shots, you think you have a chance? Get over yourself. The U.S. Constitution will still be around when Sharia law enters the paper shredder of history. The United States will still be around when you go the way of the dinosaurs; dead from a huge impact(my apologies to any dinosaurs I may have offended).

Isreal can speak for itself.

Posted by: Balrog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:10 AM

Now if we can just get A-mad-ding-job to be a little more specific on how Iran is going to annihilate the US, Britain, and Israel.

Kind of reminds me of the arogant braggart Field air marshall Hermann Göring who was Commander-in-Chief of the Nazi Luftwaffe. Goring was so proud of his Luftwaffe that he took one of America's most famous war pacifist Charles Lindberg on a Nationwide tour of Germany's Aircraft Plants. Lindberg in turn worked with America and it allies in pinpointing where all these plants where as well as all the ballbearing plants that where crucial to any machinery including aircraft so that they could be bombed.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:19 AM

It's hard to tell which way is up with this idiot-the crap keeps coming out of both ends. The bearded end is without doubt the more smelly and probably the least attractive in appearance. Get him some Kaeopectate already-the stench is really unbearable.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:24 AM

I thought Mad Mahx said he liked the American people, it was just W and his admin that he had a problem with? I so hope he likes me.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:35 AM

How do we reconcile statements by Iran's leaders with the insistence by some Iranian ex-pats that their country is not even Muslim?
One told me:

"First and foremost, Iranians are not Muslims. Islam is not in the hearts of the Iranians. Islam was forced upon the Persians. Persians have never accepted Islam as a religion. Yes, there are few people who have, but for the most part, it is not our religion............ Now, since the Mullahs have the guns and people do not, they cannot come outside and loudly tell the world we are not Muslims. There is a huge difference between the Persian and lowly Arabs."

It leads one to ask: is Islam merely a pretext for conquest? Are we to accept the premise that the people of Iran are being held captive by the mullahs and really want to be our friends?
Where does that leave us?

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:35 AM

Balrog-

He is indeed a dangerous nutcase.

Even if all the Jews in Israel were only comprised of those who fled from other Mideast countries, the issue would still be the annihilation of Israel with this Iranian nutcase and other members of the Nazi-family-values-Muslim-crowd. As Bat Ye'or (a Jewish lady born in Egypt) has pointed out: " ...any reversibility of Jihad--for instance-the recuperation of national territory by a subject people-amounts to a "sacrilege"...".

Israel is only one tiny place where Muslims feel threatened by uppity Dhimmis walking freely in Dar-al-Islam. They must reconquer all those lost territories of the Ottoman Empire or Islam will continue to contract. The Psychotic-In-Iran is a spokesperson for a mass psychosis in Dar-al-Islam re that.

War is deception. The psychotic-in-Iran attempts to divert the issue (Holocaust, e.g.), but it's not working anymore.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:36 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

This lund keeps saying this, I think he is growing in confidence as he will soon have the weapons to back it up.

I read on the internet today that North Korea is allowing Iran complete access to their Nucleur scientists, test sites and witness their bomb trials.

Their hope is that Iran will be able speed up their programme development to test their 1st nucleur weapon by end of 2008 ...as opposed to 5 years from now.

With both countries becoming nucleur the US will have to open many new fronts as well as suffering from Iraq. The world will become a very dangereous place...please note that Pakistan has nothing to do with this...keep our Pure name out of this.

I estimate that the US Kaffur has a one year "window of opportunity" before Iran posseses the weapon. ....after that ofcourse it is too late.

The window of course will be missed as the Amerike will be carrying a lame duck for a president...he'll be shouted down and told to shut up if any action is prescribed...after which Hilary, Pelosi et al will take up the reins....and of course they know that islam is peaceful.

The Amerike maybe a bit too far after Iran's trials...but is Israel?...Allah SWT save us all from this nitemare.

Please move Isreal out of the ME before it is too late...this will be a good solution.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:40 AM

This guy has also been telling the world that the 12th imam is fixin to pop out.

I hope he picks the Colts to won the Super Bowl. (Go Bears!)

Posted by: Greek Fire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:46 AM

Balrog-

BTW, Bat Ye-or points out that about 50% of the Jewish people in Israel are descendants of Mideast Jews. The issue with the psychotic-in-Iran is not the issue. "War is deception" and folks are finally waking up re the real issues here.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:47 AM

Hey Naseem,

AS they say in the Ultimate Fighting Championships, "Let's Get it On!"!

Iran's president could end up being solely responsible for the total destruction of islam.

allah is a punk and mohahahamed is his bitch. The rest of you muslims are nothing but brainless morons who followed the teachings of a partially retarded pedophile.

DEATH TO ISLAM!

Posted by: KillHankKill [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:51 AM


YIPES!! RUN FOR COVER!!!
I think we,ve found the target. NOW WHAT?

Posted by: holy warrior [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:55 AM

"The Iranian news agency Mehr reported that in light of the increasing U.S. presence in the Persian Gulf, and the continuing Iranian nuclear crisis, Iranian Expediency Council Secretary Mohsen Rezai has said that “the Iranian nation will strike 10 slaps to the face of America, in such a way that it will no longer be able to get up on the stage.”
http://www.mehrnews.com/en/
Sounds like they have specific plans to me.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 11:58 AM

President Bush needs to call Supreme Leader Katemi (proper spelling?) and let him know that President Ahmadinejad should stop making these noises before a Qur'anic ass whipping comes down on the current regime.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:09 PM

http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/408.htm

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:10 PM

Safe, humane, reliable-Islamotrack (RT)

Keeping track of the worldwide peaceful inner struggle:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/24/are-people-waking-up/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:11 PM

Naseem,
I read your posts almost daily here in England.

I no longer see "moderates" or "extremists", I just see Muslims.

Afterall, there is only one Quran, one Prophet Mohammed & of course one Ummah.

The Jihadists & their so called moderate backers such as you have radicalised me against Islam - all Islam.

By the ballot box, by the bomb & of course by incessant breeding in the West, Muslims use whatever weapons they can to further Islam.

Before you get all moist & starry eyed about a future world dominated by Islam, take a look at the USA's & Englands history & know the future of your so called "religion of peace".

When push comes to shove, I know what the fate of Islam & all Muslims will be in England - just as I already know the fate of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Muslims state "We love death" - err, well so do we if given a choice between death & a retarded 7th century death cult.

PS: You state that your beloved Pakistan had nothing to do with this - errr, no. Who gave NK, Libya & Iran the technology?

Thats right, you guessed it:

Your sainted AQ Khan, thats who - & he did it for money too, not Islam.

PPS: If it comes to pass that Israel is removed from the ME, it will hearten me only in one particular way: Maybe after such an event the UK public will accept the peaceful de-Muslimification of English soil - returning your brethren to their beloved Pakistan.

Posted by: albion [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:12 PM

""support the Islamic resistance of the Lebanese people "

...Just what is Islam resisting??

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:13 PM

Assalamau Laikum Champ,

You say "Destroy each and every one of Iran's nuclear facilities NOW, because that is the Jewish homeland", my dear.

Well this sounds like a war plan...but the Amerike has been sucked dry from thier experience in iraq....invading or attacking a much stronger country like iran is a different proposition altogother...and probably not an option for the US.

As for moving Israel...I am only saying it for their own safety....I do care you know. They could take the wailing wall with them and rebuild it in Montana say!

A whole new colony of jewish settlements could be built there while the current lands could be shared out between Lebonan, Palestine and Jordon.

At the very least then ...fighting in the ME definately could not be blamed on the jews....a major plus point.

The Iranian president also would no longer have a target....another major plus point.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:15 PM

YIPES!! RUN FOR COVER!!!
I think we,ve found the target. NOW WHAT?

Posted by: holy warrior


HAHA, moslems always "run for cover" when confronted by real men.

Posted by: Infidel_Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:18 PM

US_infidel:

"Years of apathy and open borders ensured that there are now at least tens of Al Qaeda-like cells in the U.S., with medium WMD capability, just waiting for an opportune moment, a sign, probably dictated by political reality to cause the most psychological damage and demoralization."

Osama has said he will wait to strike 'till patience wears out patience'. As banal as it seems, terrorists will probably use something of ours against us yet again rather than the endless complications of bringing in MSMs. Something so simple and HORRIBLE and evil a normal mind couldn't have conceived of it.

The Hezbullah cells are being created and armed and trained and entrenched in Latin America - also a brilliant move. The slipping in being a last minute thing. Though there are certainly Hezbullah sleeper cells here now to 'punish' us for any move against Iran.

I would rather have the vain, megalomaniac J. Edgar Hoover in an evening gown and feathered boa
running the FBI now then what we have. Look at the exquisite and swift round-up of Nazi agents within days of Pearl Harbor. Can't even imagine that happening now.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:21 PM

I frequently check out the Chicago Tribune blog called "The Swamp". Most of the people that post are liberal idiots. This is just an example of a patheric position that many loons here in Chicago have. Ignorance is bliss I guess. I guess it will take another attack here in the States to open people's eyes to this obvious threat.

Iran not a threat

Another day, another inflammatory editorial ("Arming Tehran", Editorial, Jan. 22, 2007). Please listen to the technical information instead of listening to the neo-con noise machine. Iran does not "pose a grave nuclear threat" to the United States, neither now nor in the near future. Iran has only a rudimentary nuclear energy development program, which does not at present pose any threat to us or to others. Iran has neither nuclear weapons nor missile delivery systems capable of reaching the United States now. And it will not be able to acquire nuclear weapons, with suitable missile delivery systems to reach us, in the near term future. Furthermore, sensible diplomacy can guarantee that Iran will never pose a grave nuclear threat to the United States.

In this editorial, you ask in conjunction with the short-range missiles that Iran has, "What might Iran be defending?" That's easy - the Iranians wish to defend their own country. Why are they worried about defending their country? Because both the United States and Israel have been associated with repeated covert and not-so-covert threats to attack Iran, involving both the use of conventional bombing raids and the use of nuclear weapons. The evolving scenario shows a chilling similarity to the hostilities against Iraq. First, a buildup of hostilities, with claims about the presence of WMDs. Then, stories in the media then create outrage against Iran. Before long, we might expect the President to solemnly address the nation and say that it is necessary to attack Iran in the name of national security. Or perhaps instead, Israel might make an initial attack, with the U.S. drawn into the conflict. There has been ample evidence of U.S. government preparations for an attack against Iran; we should recognize that right now the U.S. military is in an advanced state of readiness to wage war on the country. And U.S. military forces are currently even increasing their readiness to attack, as a second aircraft carrier strike group is now leaving for the Middle East, where it will be joined by naval mine clearing assets, while Patriot missile systems have been ordered deployed to the Gulf.

There are tremendous dangers in a U.S.-sponsored war against Iran. It could easily spiral into a major regional war throughout the Middle East, which in itself could be capable of setting off another world war. Let's cool it, and instead try a diplomatic approach that could bring a peaceful settlement of differences, instead of creating a hazard to the entire world.

Caroline Herzenberg

Chicago, IL

Posted by: MagnaCharles [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:22 PM

Naseem:

If you live in Pakistan as you claim, I'd say that you may be in greater danger, living fairly proximate to a country that suffers incredibly severe earthquakes and is building numerous secret nuclear installations using questionable Russian construction consultants.

If moving the Jews out of Israel is the panacea you claim it is, why are Muslims attacking Jews in every other part of the globe where Jewish communities exist?

And if Israel is so evil, why did a recent poll of its Arab citizens find that, in fact, a healthy majority of them are very happy to be Israeli citizens and acknowledge that they cannot be candid about their sentiments for obvious reasons.

The reason the Arab/Muslim world loves to seethe about Israel is that it has helped raise billions for "Arab refugees" -- 5.5 billion to be exact if you only count foreign aid between 1994 and 2004 and not all the "charity". The oil producing nations have leveraged the Palestinian cause to their advantage at least since the 1970s boycott and formatin of OPEC, and the non-oil producers like your beloved Pakistan and Egypt leverage "the Palestinians" more indirectly, by using it as a rationale for operating police states, the persecution of non-Muslims and the soliciting of aid in trade for signing peace treaties or cracking down on terrorists.

What's interesting about your ignorance is that you come from a country that was created more or less the same way and at more or less the same time. The differences are only in magnitude, with an infinitely larger population transfer involved in the creation of Pakistan and the racial diversity of Israel's Jewish population, the majority of which is not Ashkenazic.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:47 PM

Assalamau laikum Champ,

you say "Ahmad is a little man with a big ego, but his little-man-complex days will soon come to an end. Stay tuned"!

I think this is what the jew said about Muhd some 1400 years ago....and we all know what happened there don't we.

I am impressed by the way you defend the jews...are you a jew yourself?

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:49 PM

Mele Kalikimaka, Naseem...

Interesting you keep returning here to troll-bait our happy little family. Shouldn't you be down at the mosque getting your suicide belt upgraded and picking up new target information?

My country, AMERICA (learn to spell it correctly), can pretty much put the kibosh on President Tom's little party in Iran using nothing but sea-based air power, without stepping in a single camel pie on dry land. That aside, we have plenty of land-based aircraft already located right next door in Iraq, and those Apaches are very good at knocking out radar and AA sites. We also have some interesting vessels slipping around under the surface of the gulf that could definitely spell "game over" at any time.

This, combined with the fact that almost all of Iran's neighbors are not too excited about Iran's posturing, and the fact that the general Persian population in Iran itself is not supportive of Ahmagonnadieinajihad's rantings, makes for a very sticky wicket for your buddy McMud.

...and you can give all the credit for the ensuing bloodbath to your fellow Paki, AQK!

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:49 PM

Assalamau Laikum Waterdragon,

You say "What's interesting about your ignorance is that you come from a country that was created more or less the same way and at more or less the same time".

Well I don't think the creation of Pak was good for Islam or for India. all this did was to slow down the Islamification of India...and in sucha large country...that's a bad thing.

Who know what Islam would have been to achieve there if not for the short sightness of Jinnah.

Islam is there for to help all hindoos anf jews to achieve their salvation ...Allah waits and helps all...for he is merciful and patient.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:54 PM

I see the automaton suffering from terminal cognitive dissonance, Naseem, is back.

Funny, but I believe Sura 5:21 confirms Allah has given the Holy Land to the Jews.

Your refusal to recognize the divine right of Jewish sovereignty over Jerusalem et al, is apostasy my dear.

And you know the penalty for apostasy in Islam.

Posted by: Charles Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 12:56 PM

Magnacharles said:
'I guess it will take another attack here in the States to open people's eyes to this obvious threat.'

Not even another attack would make them see the threat we face. It's more likely they'd blame it on Bush's "war-mongering". If only we behaved nicely, they'd let us live.

I wonder how Naseem would answer the charge made by an Iranian ex-pat that Iranians aren't true Muslims, that they only act that way because of the mullahs and that they're secretly pro-western.

Back to the editorial:
The idea that Iran is no threat because they can't attack us here (yet) is shortsighted. It also ignores history. Japan couldn't attack the US mainland in 1941. They "only" attacked a single base in a US territory. That didn't obviate the threat they posed to Australia and most of the East Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean.
Iran might never attack the US mainland directly, but that doesn't obviate the threat they pose to our allies. Not just Israel, but the rest of the Mediterranean countries. We have interests and responsibilities that go beyond our shores. We might not like it, but that's what FDR and the Democrats gave us after WWII.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:00 PM

Assalamau Laikum EricinTexas,

You say "Shouldn't you be down at the mosque getting your suicide belt upgraded and picking up new target information?"

What a typically biased stupid comment. I hate violence and do not support Islam through the use of violence ..period.

My way is that of dawa...educating the ignorant faithless masses like yourselves of the virtues of Islam and implore you to convert at least to become a wuslim...an essential step to becoming a muslim for later.

I don't need to get target information, the flat earth policy belongs to all muslims... everywhere... thus by definition there can be no targets...there can only be Islam....hope this helps to clear up your little misunderstanding.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:01 PM

Seldom is there need to reply to Naseem. It does no good. The last line of Pushkin's version of Horace's "Exegi Monumentum" has the poet telling himself, the Poet: "And do not contradict the fool." (Ne osparivai gluptsa."). Only when statements might have an effect on others, or when there is some chance of changing someone's mind, should one bother to reply.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:02 PM

adnauseem:

Considering the extremely poor state of social development of the Muslim world, not just compared to Hindu India and Jewish Israel, but even trailing Africa, I'd say that Allah's blessings upon the Ummah have not been all that wonderful.

Ignorance isn't really bliss, even if you are a Muslim. A majority of Israel's Arab citizens were recently polled and found to prefer Israeli citizenship and also acknowledged that they cannot be public with their views for obvious reasons.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:06 PM

Hugh - you are correct, sir. I was just feeling a little silly and decided to give it a go.

And just think of all the progress our world would have made if Mohammad's (Pork Be Upon Him) little pseudo-religion conquered all centuries ago? We would all still be living in the Stone Age.

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:13 PM

There are two obstacles preventing a successful U.S. attack on Iran:

First, by Rep. Jane Harmon's own admission, our intelligence community has been unable to pinpoint the locations of all of Iran's secret nuclear facilities. Given how badly the CIA overestimated Saddam's capability for Weapons of Mass Destruction, this should surprise no one. Hence we would be throwing the equivalent of a blind punch and hoping for the best. We would never know if we targeted the correct facilities. President Clinton tried such an air campaign against Saddam's Iraq in 1998, "Operation Desert Fox." The results were inconclusive.

Second, Ahmedinijad's own oil industry analysts have reportedly calculated that an attack on Iran would send oil prices soaring into the stratosphere--if Iran's oil industry were damaged, speculators could send the price of oil as high as $400 a barrel. That would severely damage the economies of both America and Western Europe--how long would Americans tolerate paying $8.00 a gallon for gasoline?

Ahmedinijad has therefore concluded that America is bluffing.

And that's why he's throwing his weight around.

Posted by: Steven L. [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:21 PM

"...there can only be Islam...."

Thank you Naseem, you clearly affirm the whole mission of this site. The fight against the intolerence of Islam is only further empowered by your post.

You! have made our point for us!

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:22 PM

Hugh-

Agree with you. Why bother.

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BTW, as you put it the other day, the stormtroopers were just "bursting with morality". No tattoos for them, they had family values-they were not immoral, like Americans with their jazz, dancing and movies. The similarity between Hitler's condemnation of American "immorality" and the Muslim condemnation of American "immorality" is striking and equally absurd. Meanwhile, these moral mavens (Muslims and Nazis)forbid freedom of conscience, burn books, burn people-but man they have "family values".

They have bullshit. Family values, me arse. Keep a sharp eye on these lecturers on morality. They are usually hypocrites-or fear something re themselves.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:23 PM

nasperm, why do you continue to use kuffaar technology?
Surely you know that your prophet mo is cursing you to hellfire with every keystroke you make!
allah has special plans for you because you continue to strive against the way of allah.
I wonder what he'll do to you?, sex slave in hell is too good for you, maybe he'll make an example out of you for your redemption and just whip you for eternity.
Then maybe if you're lucky he'll just rip your spine out your back and split your brains in two and put them back and do it over and over again.
Who knows?, but i'm sure whatever allah decides to do with you, you'll be as happy as a slut at a college frat party.


Posted by: Infidel_Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:24 PM

The cognitive dissonance model is the one to strike in arguments with mobots like Naseem. They cannot obviate the passages in their holy book affirming Jewish sovereignty over the Holy Land so they are faced with an unresolvable paradox: how to reconcile their contempt for, and maniacal efforts to uproot Zionism born out of envy, hatred, and greed with decrees by their God and prophet that indeed, the land interimly known as Palestine belongs exclusively to the Jews.

I only wish Naseem had a webcam; I would love to see the billow of smoke rising from the top of her head.

Posted by: Charles Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:29 PM

The funniest part of Naseems diatribe is where she says Hindus in India would be better of had they become entirely converted to Islam. Surely she knows what happened in northern India in the 1800’s. One of the most horrific genocides ever recorded. The Hinuds would have been better of if the genocide (otherwise known as conversion to Islam) were more complete in her opinion. Wow laughing, but not very funny. Just goes to show you how myopic and utterly microcephalic Islam and those that observe it are.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:30 PM

Remember, both the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Iraqi army both believed they would crush the Americans if they attacked...

Whoops!

Posted by: deseeded [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:34 PM

A few possibilities...

1.North Korea and Iran plan a simultaneous attack on Israel and the US.

2. The 11 missing Egyptian students brought something dangerous into the US and met up in various cities to turn over the substance.

3. There is a coverup regarding the smell in NY/NJ and the dead birds in Texas, Iowa and Maryland.

Folks, all I can suggest is that every one of you imagine the worst and then prepare for any possibility. Most importantly, do not allow yourself to act like the walking dead (both parties) in Washington who have their heads up their bums regarding possible terrorism.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:41 PM




On 8 December, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the Congress to ask for a declaration of war against Japan. Referring to December Seventh, 1941, as a "day that shall live in infamy", he gave the Pearl Harbor attack its most famous and enduring title. Within a few days, Germany and Italy had declared war on the United States. Even before the President's speech, Americans were flooding recruiting offices to try to join the Armed Forces. For those already in the Service, the formality of war was now present, though for most, the grim reality of the experience was still well in the future.
">After Pearl


Many of the same questions were being raised at that time that are asked today, are we too weak, are Americans too soft, will we be another France and so on. Much of the same bluster was coming from our enemies as well. Is it true? We shall see. I wonder what the odds would be in Vegas? Would they even take bets?




Posted by: tgusa
[TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:43 PM

Goobs:
AND Watch out for passenger airliners from foreign countries who have relations with Iran.

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:44 PM

Ahmadinejad is insane. Who knows what the real reason for these statements is, but one thing is for sure. He cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons. He is an Islamist, and therefore a consummate liar. He is trying to provoke some kind of response to justify his words and actions. He needs a concrete example of Islam under attack by the West. Something personal, to ratify in his mind his lunatic desire to bring an end to the world. He is also a classic narcissist who just loves to hear himself speak.

The ships are already in the gulf, waiting. Contrary to Naseem's poor understanding of our available military resources, one of many examples of this nature by Naseem, We need not set foot in Iran at all. In fact, we intend not to. We can inflict a crippling strike against Iran without any occupation. As a matter of fact, our current failure in Iraq just refreshes this reality in our collective psyche. The US will not be quick to encumber our ground forces in the M.E. again anytime soon.

Naseem talks of our window closing fast. I wholeheartedly disagree. One nuke will not eradicate the US, far from it. It simply will justify the ensuing carnage that will follow. We are practically begging for Iran to do something to make a statement. This is what America is looking for. An act of war that allows a quick decisive strike devoid of any conflict caused by conscience.

Naseem is scared, and rightly so. Naseem is also a bad Muslim. Naseem, who supposedly supports Islam as applied today, has not laid down his life for the jihad, and therefore has failed in Muhammad's eyes. He will not receive the ultimate reward from Allah, reserved for only those who die a martyr. Naseem is also an Islamist by trade, and therefore a liar as well. Naseem does not truly beieve in Allah anyway. If he did, he would be wondering why it is taking Allah so damn long to cleanse the world of the infidel.

Naseem is a coward and thankfully, quite inconsequential as well. Most Muslims are. That is why they wear masks in the streets, fear. Hussein was a recent example of this. Tough talk, but when the moment of truth came, he chose capture and ridicule for a temporal extension of his life as opposed to outright martyrdom. Islam is a cowardly, yet violent and deceptive cult. Refusal to grasp the latter of this simple premise does have consequences, however.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:45 PM

Well this sounds like a war plan...but the Amerike has been sucked dry from thier experience in iraq....invading or attacking a much stronger country like iran is a different proposition altogother...and probably not an option for the US.
--- the deluional Moslima Nasseem

The American experience in Iraq is not a war experience. It was, and is, a kind-hearted effort to overthrow an awful dictator and replace it with a Moslem democracy. In other words, an effort to prove whether or not Moslems can be civilized.

Despite the speech by Dubya last night, we already know that they cannot be civilized. Many of us knew that long before the start of the Iraq “war” and even long before 2001, 1993, 1990, 1968, 1948, and even before 1928.

With an effort in Iran there will be no effort to civilize. Our retardo Prez Carter made the awful mistake of taking the Persians out from under the thumb of the dictator Shah of Iran. This mistake was recently repeated by Dubya.

No more mistakes. Moslems have every right to always be under the dictatorial thumb that they so dearly require, either a Moslem dictator or an Infidel dictator.

Me, I’d prefer the latter option. Moslems are dangerous children and must be controlled. The first step is to incite a Sunni-Shia-Kurd Moslem war, seize the oil fields, destroy the ports and sequester the sea lanes in Saudi-Iraqi-Irani space for crude oil traffic under the protection of the US Navy, UK Navy, and Australian Navy.

No naval participation from the EUrabians navies, for they too are now dangerous children.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:52 PM

Nassem's peskyness is only outmatched by that famous Islamic/Muslim false pride and arrogance. Do any of these Muhammadites actually have the ability/capacity to process "actual" events and information? or do they ALL just live in the fantasy world the Degenerate prophet created/promised for them? their superiority complex baffles me. just look at the state of the Islamic world and all you will find is inhumane cruelty, mind control,primitive customs and technology and Islamic slaves , yet they see this as the light? they praise the savage culture of death that MO taught as "peace and love ".they see murder as "tolerance" , and "compassion". hell even other Muslims are targets for Islam. it's dog eat dog in the Muslim/Islamic world. and each day they are proving with their barbaric behaviour that they will never ever be able to make the world islamic, because as long as human being still have a soul there will be resistance to the Evil, and agression Islam brings .
Naseem one day your ilk will put yourself and all Muslims in the west in a position where we WILL be forced to choose whether you are worth it anymore. worth allowing to live in our societies .your Cult and your muhammadite mentality have no place in the 21 century.
personally i already think that people like you are dangerous and certainly NOT worth it.
if you don't already live in an Islamic country , hopefully someday you will be sent to one.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:59 PM

"What a typically biased stupid comment. I hate violence and do not support Islam through the use of violence ..period. "

Awake - from Naseem's comment quoted here, it is obvious s/he doesn't truly believe the Koran. And we all know what that means, don't we?

Awaiting the fatwa on this infidel!

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 1:59 PM

Here you go folks

China, Iran sign biggest oil & gas deal

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/31/content_387140.htm

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:05 PM

Hey Nasseem.. fu2, lan astaslem... how long has it been since the Ummah was rewarded by these efforts, 500+ years... the jihad 'holy war' mentality has only brought destruction on the Ummah... since the Ummah doesn't look at history it is doomed to repeated failure... but then you will still blame others for your problems... Israel will be moved when I can go to Mecca (not as a Muslim)...

Posted by: somejerk [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:07 PM

Ahmadinejad is insane.

We've seen no evidence of that. But we have seen a mountain of evidence that Islam is insane.

Prez Mahmoud is a good solid Moslem. I see evidence of this in his background as a leader in the kidnap and ransom business. All Prez Mahmoud did at the American Embassy in Tehran was observe the Holy Prophet's sacred Sunnah by performing various religious sacraments there.

Let us not forget the Expedition to Naklah and the ensuing Battle of Badr. These two events, the latter the direct result of the former, are miracles gifted Allah that to this day is observed in the festival of Ramadan, right here in the United States, in our White House, in our Congress, in our cities and suburbs, our schools, our prisons, and even in the Quantico Marine Base.

Semper Fidelis.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:08 PM

I wish Iran's president would soon die-it would be the only good thing he'd ever do in this world.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:09 PM

CC - you forgot to list "revisionist history" in your otherwise comprehensive "state of the Islamic world". Beginning with his "cut & paste" plagiarism of the original Holy Books (both Old & New Testaments), Mohammed (Pork Shoulder bbq and cold beer Be Upon Him) was very liberal in making the Q-book a "living document" as he went about conquering the remaining tribes and lands, only to shut it down and declare it "the word" once it fit his needs and tastes.

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:15 PM

Awake said:
"Ahmadinejad is insane."

APF said:
"We've seen no evidence of that. But we have seen a mountain of evidence that Islam is insane."

"Prez Mahmoud is a good solid Moslem."

If Ahmadinejad is a good, solid Muslim, then he strictly adheres to the ideology of Islam, which you have declared as insane. Therefore; he must be insane as well. There is no other way to look at this.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:22 PM

my God says,
BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS ISREAL
CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE HER

Posted by: holy warrior [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:24 PM

And as far as Ahmadinejoke goes, he needs to be stopped , and soon!. the inability to act against his threats against Israel and the west has emboldened other M.E. nations to declare their intentions to commence a Nuclear " for peace" Programme.

Muslims using Nuclear power " for peace" is like F#@%@ng for abstinance!.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:25 PM

Naseem has the typical Islamic mentality.

Even if they loose a war,the are always in state of denial and live in dreamy world.
Examples
1) The four wars lost with India in 1965/71/48/99.
Their books and websites say the scored a victory in each of the wars and the reason for these wars was Kashmir. But even today they say they will support Kashmir for freedom or to merge into Pakistan.
Funny isnt it???. Anyone would have thought if you defeated someone for a piece of land ,you would keep it if you win.
Or was it you just won in ur dreams or in your distorted history books.
Even Mushaaraff denied precence of his trrops and refused to accept back dead bodies of his troops in 1999 to lend credibility to his claim that Pak army was not involved. And then in his autobiography he accepted atleast a few hundred soilders died i.e 7 years later.
What a glorious way of honouring your soilders.

2) The second example was of Hezbollah recently.
Thet hid behind civilian and kids and ran like mice and when the UN and USA finally forced Israel to stop the one sided war,Hezbollah actually carried out a victory rally caliming victory.
Oh man what a stae of denial they live in.

Ditto for moderate Muslims. Either they live in state of denial that Koran preaches violence or are so stupid as to believe that the jihadis are few only. Or are plain scared shit of bringing out the truth of theri religion ,becasue they will be shot dead or beheaded. These same people find spunk and voice in democratic contries to protest because they feel secure to protest.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:33 PM

Hugh said:
"Seldom is there need to reply to Naseem. It does no good."

Disagreed. Naseem serves a very useful purpose here. While primarily to be "on display" as you previously stated on this subject, response to and debate with is also warranted. The value is two-fold.

First, it allows us a free chance to hone our skills of debate against the Islamist, a prime focus of JW/DW. Robert constantly states the need to discuss and debate the tenets of Islam with Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

Second, it gives Naseem a chance to experience the reality of a point of view different from what he experiences normally as an Islamist, interacting with other Islamists. Naseem has little to no chance of fair debate on pro-Islamic blogs. They just don't allow any negative views of Islam there. That is what makes JW/DW superior to most other blogs, whether pro or anti-Islamic.

Your and Robert's position is not to silence what you do not want to hear, but rather to refute and debate, with mountains of empirical evidence, a distinguished knowledge of history, and a keen sense of the true nature of Islam through your collective, exhaustive studies.

Naseem is a good thing. Maybe, through his experience here, he will undergo an epiphany and decide to leave Islam. I am quite sure that myself or nearly anyone else here on JW/DW will not swing the other way, especially not due to anything that Naseem could ever possibly say.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:41 PM

N Korea Helping Iran with Nuclear Testing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/24/wiran24.xml

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:46 PM

Here you go folks

China, Iran sign biggest oil & gas deal

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/31/content_387140.htm

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:47 PM

Connect the dots

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:47 PM

Iran and Iraq fought to a draw in an 8-year war.

The U.S. took out Saddam in 3 weeks.

Militarily Iran does not stand a realistic chance against the U.S., even without coalition partners, and furthermore, the Ummah will fail to come to their aid, preferring instead to see the Shi'ites suffer.

Posted by: Greek Fire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:49 PM

"Well I don't think the creation of Pak was good for Islam or for India. all this did was to slow down the Islamification of India...and in sucha large country...that's a bad thing.

Interpretation: An India with Hindus is a bad thing. It is too bad that our genocides in the 1800's failed to murder every Hindu.

Who know what Islam would have been to achieve there if not for the short sightness of Jinnah.

Interpretation: Had Islam been able to murder all of the Hindus we may have gone on to murder even more people and thereby convert them.

Islam is there for to help all hindoos anf jews to achieve their salvation ...Allah waits and helps all...for he is merciful and patient."

Interpretation: It is too bad the Hindus kicked our butts before we were able to exterminate them, as this genocide was for thier own good. We havent given up yet maybe we will be able to start the genocide again after we are done in the Darfur.

A quote from Naseem

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:50 PM

It is clear that this man is plotting nuclear attacks upon the United States.

Even if Iran or one of its client states successfully pulled such a fandango off, there is one thing he has forgotten:

the United States grows close to 30% of the entire planet's food supply. Most Islamic states fail to grow even half of what they need for their burgeoning populations to exist. The Islamic states will NOT be able to import what they need because their major financial bckers Russia, China, and the European Union are all food deficit areas.

They need the United States for food. This will likely remain the case for generations to come.

So if this creep DOES attack us (or uses a client state of Iran's like Germany, France, Russia, or Venezuela to do his dirty work for him) the result will be starvation across the Islamosphere on an unparalleled scale.

In short, this Mighty Nut Job will kill and harm more Muslims than Americans with his nukes.

But that's okay--Islam never DID have any use for human life. Not even that of Muslims.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:55 PM

Ah, here it comes. We all know that America intends to smash up Iran, but it does need to justify its actions at least a little bit. So sit back and watch the Media, America's greatest weapon, produce loads of shocking and inflamatory statements that seem to be from the president of Iran. Ahmadinejad is a man who knows full well (like the rest of the world) that come what may, America IS going to bomb his country; you'd think he'd keep quiet wouldn't you?
By the way, in case you didn't know, Syria and Afghanistan are on America's "To Bomb" list (all in the name of Peace, of course) so watch out for the Media's build-up of justifications there too (when they've finished with Iran and Somalia; don't want to take on too much at once.)
"Be assured that the US and Israel will soon end lives"
Yes, they will, they will be ending the lives of people overseas.
Caroline Herzenberg (12.22pm) has got it right.
Naseem -are you a muslim?

Posted by: maryam [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 2:56 PM

Ah, here it comes. We all know that America intends to smash up Iran, but it does need to justify its actions at least a little bit. So sit back and watch the Media, America's greatest weapon, produce loads of shocking and inflamatory statements that seem to be from the president of Iran

Posted by: maryam

WTF? are you insane? who are the real masters of the media? Muslims!, who are the ones actually Threatening to Wipe nations off the map? Muslims and Iran!

The Western Media is the Wests greatest enemy you dolt! they have an agenda that is actually Counter productive to exposing Islam FOR WHAT IT IS.

As for statements that "Seem to be " from Ahmadinejad? well we have all SEEN it for ourselves. this little troll makes his hate speeches on Arab and M.E. media all the time. but you already knew that , you turnspeaking anti freedom , enemy of decency!

Posted by: Concerned Canadian [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:01 PM

The Amerike maybe a bit too far after Iran's trials...but is Israel?...Allah SWT save us all from this nitemare.

Please move Isreal out of the ME before it is too late...this will be a good solution.
Posted by: Naseem


Lord, I'd give anything to have Israel nuke Pakiland!!! After they're done with Iran.

Posted by: MeanieMo [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:11 PM

This is not jihad related, maybe.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/01/18/china.missile/index.html
I don't trust the Chicoms, they would be likely partners in a war against the US. They know they can turn around and destroy islam without one whinge of conscience.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:11 PM

"More declarations of war. "Iran: Israel, US will soon die: Ahmadinejad: Be assured that the US and Israel will soon end lives."

Well Iran will sing a new tune once Isreal takes out all those nuke installments.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:16 PM

Naseem and Maryam, Israel is in the Middle East because that's where they permanently belong. Israel "was in the Middle East" before your quote unquote "prophet" ever existed. By the way who is it in the Middle East that is most selfish? The Jews? Who owns the majority of the land? Ever look at a map? And you, owning the most land, have complaints?

CRITICIZE ISLAM!

P.S. Tiny minority of extremists world map

Posted by: Report [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:29 PM

If Ahmadinejad is a good, solid Muslim, then he strictly adheres to the ideology of Islam, which you have declared as insane. Therefore; he must be insane as well. There is no other way to look at this.

No, the implication that falls from calling Prez Mahmoud insane is that he's a renegade Moslem, that Islam can be sane, and that a Moslem can be a moderate. None of these things can possibly be true.

Prez Mahmoud is a good solid Moslem by the standards of his communnity, the Ummah. Put that into the can with the pervasive myth that Islam is ok, and only then can he be seen as a nut-ball.

Hell, America has even bought into theory that then student Mahmoud wasn't one of the lead Moslem activists in the kidnapping of the American Embassy, which really is insane.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:30 PM

It does not suprise me that Naseem has hijacked the thread again. Just ignore Nasseen.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:30 PM

Naseem -are you a muslim?
Posted by: maryam at January 24, 2007 02:56 PM

Do you see, Hugh? These two are usually thick as thieves. Let them speak, and be compelled to respond.

Maryam,

Incorrect(again), on the media. They are not on the side of the US or the truth for that matter. That being said, even the media cannot continue to defend Islam indefinately, with each new abhorrent word spoken and action performed by those in the name of the "religion of peace".

Maryam is another fine example of empty talk and unwarranted bravado, with absolutely nothing to back it up. An absolute pleasure to refute.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:31 PM

No, the implication that falls from calling Prez Mahmoud insane is that he's a renegade Moslem, that Islam can be sane, and that a Moslem can be a moderate. None of these things can possibly be true
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 24, 2007 03:30 PM

APF,

Aaaah, I see your point. The perception of insanity applied to the man as opposed to the ideology. Understood.

I agree with you that Islam is insane and therefore in my rational mind, so is Ahmadinejad, but in reality, no more or less than any other good Muslim that strictly adheres to the ideology of insanity, namely Islam.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:51 PM

maryam is as out-of-touch with reality as our friend Naseem. MSM working for America?? Jeez Louise.

(BTW, Naseem, note again the correct spelling of our great country, AMERICA - I swear, you are hopelessly illiterate.)

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 3:54 PM

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad… assured that the United States and the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives," the Iranian president was quoted as saying (*-

Big words from a small fella. One thing that you can consistently notice about Muslims, for example Hussain, they never know when to stop.

Lets see what has actually happened recently - Taibans were threatening us. As soon as we started the wipp, they were running like rats into their rat holes. There were no more talibans in Afghanstan three weeks after the war. We trusted our most trusted 'staunch allay" fu..ing Pakies. They took them in adn our nut-jobs trusted them

Iraq was basically a three day war. Sadam was found inside a rat hole. We should have left Iraq. I think they would have killed each other till the eternity.

Muslims have a one serious bad habbitt- they smoke something and trans into evil Mo's world of superiority. They get comfort from imagining that they can kick ass.

To our Muslim Pakistani Naseem - you are a typical Muslim, whose main aim is to spread Muslim BS. I think you ought to clean up your keyboard, because a whole lot of bull is still left on the keys.

Muslims will never have a chance to conqure Israel. Look at the size of Israel and the size of its enemy. Wow, Nazium, logic never has been one of your strong points, neither has it been of any of the Muslims. If you can't figure why Israel is able to exist for yourself then no medicine in the world can cure you.

I agree with Hugh they are waste of space. It is like trying to teach a pig to sing, you'll only anoying him.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:03 PM

Posted by: Greek Fire at January 24, 2007 02:49 PM

Iran and Iraq fought to a draw in an 8-year war. The U.S. took out Saddam in 3 weeks.


Um...yeah. But that was almost 4 years ago, and last I checked there is still a war going on in Iraq. And regardless of anyone's wishful thinking, the US is not winning there.

Saddam was a cruel and evil dictator, but one thing he was good at was keeping the Islamic militants and radical Shi'ites clamped down and under control. Now that he's gone, they have free run in Iraq. And like it or not, that's the way it's going to be for now on.

Posted by: Qualis Rex [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:06 PM

Ahmadinejad's threats and braggadacio is reminiscent of the late and unlamented Saddam's. Remember the "Mother of Battles" that he threatened preceding the first Gulf War?

Perhaps Ahmadinejad should consider whether he wants to follow in the footsteps of Saddam all the way.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:08 PM
Naseem -are you a muslim? Posted by: maryam
Maryam

Naseem is likely to ask you this - do you recognize Ahmadiya as Muslims? Her answer would be based on that. So what say you? (And while we are at it, are you a Sunni or a Shia, if you don't mind my asking?)

Also you may have missed this, but Afghanistan was bombed by the US and done in 2001 itself - hardly any bombing of Afghanistan has taken place since the capture of Kandahar. I don't recall 'America's greatest weapon' concealing this in 2001 - if anything, that war had wall to wall coverage.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:12 PM

Primate of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned the Magrog Zarg alliance that soon their hold on power in the cosmos would come to an end.

The Iranian primate directly tied events in Lebanon to a wider plan aimed at earth domination. He called on Muslim countries to "support the Islamic resistance of the Magrog Zarg and strive to enhance solidarity and unity among the different Muslim maniac groups in a bid to pave the ground for the complete domination of the universe. “The Martians demise is, of course, imminent."

Leading American democratic experts have denounced the primate’s claims that the Magrog Zarg is a Martian alliance. They claim that the alliance is actually based on the moon Titan.

“We have a minor disagreement with the primate of Iran, but we are working to iron that out so we can have a peaceful transfer of power from the Senate to Iran.” Senator Hilary Clinton told the BBC.

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:27 PM

Oh, by the way, de-fanging the Iranian mullahs and Ahmadinejad will turn them inwards (rebuilding and internal strife) and divert their attention from meddling in Iraq.

One reason the US is hesitant to take our troops out of Iraq is that Iran would move in. If Iran were concerned with its own survival, that threat would evaporate.

The second reason given for retaining US troops in Iraq is that al qaeda would then be less constrained to set up a major base there.

With Iran no longer a threat to Iraq, the Sunni-Shi'ite conflict would be more equitable.

While this conflict keeps our enemies busy, US troops could go after al qaeda elements, especially in the Syrian border region.

This line of thinking is at odds with the Bush administrations attempt to make out of Iraq a "democracy" modeled after that of the United States. As this has already failed (any state with "Islam" in its constitution cannot be anything that approximates the US), solving the Iraq problem by neutralizing Iran is worth a shot.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:33 PM

NASEEM says "Well I don't think the creation of Pak was good for Islam or for India. all this did was to slow down the Islamification of India...and in sucha large country...that's a bad thing.

As an Indian and as an Hindu , Am i GLAD pakistan was formed.
The reasons why i say so are
1) Instead of pakistan , harbouring terrorists ,today the world would have probbalby blamed India becos these idiots would have been called Indians insteads of Pakis.
THANK GOD we were spared this destiny or we would never have had democracy or peace or secularism as it is today in INDIA as of today.

2) With such people who are hell bent on taking the world to the 7th century, we would not have seen the Economic progress indian has made in the technological or business field because we would have been busy trying to damge control the harm these Islamics would have done.

I THANK GOD again PAKISTAN was formed else the millions of problems they face today would have been OURS. Also we would have got the bad name Pakistan has managed to get thmeselves becuase with every terrorist activity in the world the name Pakistan is sure to pop up sooner or later.

Today the world trusts India as a secular and responsible democracy and thats why USA had confidence to sign the nuclear deal because they know we wont import that technology to terrorists.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 4:33 PM

Even the muslims in India are glad they are in India and not in pakitsan.
The reason is that they get more rights than ever.
The president of India is a Muslim.
Can you even imagine a hindu or a jew or christian bieng allowed to be in the Govt of Islamic nation leave alone bieng the president.
BNaseem is most likely to argue that Muslims are bieng killed by hindus in India but even he knows it is not true.
The only Muslims who were killed in riots were the once who started it first and there was a definite ISI-pakistan hand in the starting the riots.Anf of course just like they deny helping the taliban they deny this. Its a double game they have mastered.

The Mumbai train blasts were a handiwork of local Muslims inspired and brainwahsed by the Islamic ideology and were designed to start communal violence in India . But thankfully the Muslims of india have now started understanding the devilish scheme and did not fall trap into it and peace still prevails.

Most of the film actors and cricketing icons in India are also Muslims.in the 1971 war with Pakistan the Commander of a naval ship which bombed karach was a Muslim. By the way for thos of you who do not know the 1971 war split pakistani into half creating bangladesh because the bangladeshi bengali muslims were considered as inferior muslims and were bieng killed in thousands. The result was they started fleeing into India and this forced us to intervene because Miliions of muslims were taking refuge in India from the so called Islaimic state of pakistan.
Muslims in India are still secular to a large extent and Pakistan and other islamic states are trying to their best to spread poison in their minds but get frustrated well because they have been unsuccesful till now.

The ultimate goal of these radical muslims( and they are not in minority as claimed by them) is to make the world an Islamic state. How can one negotiate with such person like The Iranian president. How can we trust Iran ever.
They will negotiate now and then when they become stronger they will continue their impossible dream of Islamic world

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:05 PM

The perception of insanity applied to the man as opposed to the ideology. Understood.

The above is a precise expression of the distinction I was trying to make.

… the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives…

It strikes me that the resurgence of anti-Semitism over the last quarter century does not stem from any particular complaint with Judaism, but is an outgrowth of the mass cowardice that has emerged since then in the face of the threat of Islam.

The Romanian nobeman Dracula knew how to deal with Moslems. Cowardice ain't gonna work. I mean, Dracula finally went down himself in the face of the Ottomans, but he sapped so much of their energy that the Austrians were finally able to turn the tide.

Retro-Antisemites are just plain jealous; Nouveaux-Antisemites are just place scared, and looking for a fall guy.

In life, cowards always need fall guys. But facing Islam's rapaciousness, the Jew fall guy idea ain’t gonna work. They’ll just keep coming for fresh cuts of meat after cutting up the Jews.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:10 PM

Assalamaua Laikum Maryam,

You have a lovley name, and you write well too, may Allah SWT shower his blessing on you.
Inshallah....I am an muslima too hailing from Lahore in Pakistan. I run an office furniture shop there.
I am an Ahmadi muslima.

I heve been presenting much dawa to the kafur here in the hope of enlightening them and guiding them if and when they decide to convert. In my eyes they would be a wuslim (Western/white muslim) first...individuals who like the lifestyle of the West but cannot bear to be apart from Allah SWT....Alhumdulilla...still being a wuslim is better than being Kafur.

It's a shame that these peoples will not listen...after all their society revolves around materialistic things, lack of faith , cats instead childrens and obesity. At least praying 5 times in that position will be good for your knees and heart.

These peoples don't listen...but I have faith in Allah SWT ...global Islam will dominate...not as a result of Jihad....but the way of my Ahmadi teacher...peaceful dawa.

I keep telling them that some of the most peaceful peoples I know are muslims...but it's like talking to a brick wall.

I hope that you will remain on Jihadwatch and support me....Alhumdulilla I have been carrying the crusade of dawa on my own...and my back has started to hurt...I carried on even after my shor Anwer was injured and then later died in the earthquake about 3 years ago.

We had a brother Mohideen Ibramshaha...a school teacher..who supported me and then disappeared after his faith got shaken ?

Are U in the US?

Keep in touch

Allah Hafiz

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:19 PM

Is there a special course in Anti-Christianity or Anti-Americanism that is under the "Journaljizm school" umbrella? I've seen nothing vaguely Pro-American or Pro-Christian in the media for years.

There is never anything even slightly untoward said about moslems but Christianity is a free-fire zone.

DREK!

Posted by: Rowane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:28 PM

YES Infidel Pride

We have a lot of them muslims and as long as they are there there will be renconquest dream especially from country like pakistan.
Practically thinking their elimination is the solution.
But as you sugessted forming Hindu death squads to eliminate them, I dont think that will ever happen.
Simple becase the hindu religion teaches us not to hate others and definetly not to kill others.

We value life be it a Hindu,Jew or Chrisitan or even Muslim. Most of the religions except Islam have this written in their holy books to value life and do not ask their religion to kill and conquer the world.

This has been our strength and belief also but I guess in the long run it may become our weaknes also.

The reason why Hindus,Jews and Chrisitian still have not become barabaric killing machines like them is ---because we all feel that solution is not killing and we have still not reached the point where our patience run over.

But I guess if this pushing by these muslims grows into shoving ,we all will be forced leave our principles of peace and politically correctness and retaliate andeven the islamic world knows that when that day comes their so called jihad will the start of World War 3 and they will be annhilated because if we all join forces they know where they stand.

Thats why I support Bush. He has seen in the future and knows it is time to weaken them before they become a huge power too hot to handle. But again USA UK INDIA is obsessed with solving the problem by talks and has people like pelosi or Brown who still believe we can put sense in their minds and remove hatred.
Well I guess sooner or later we will all be forced to retaliate and give them the taste of our their own medicine and that is going to take time because we all still beleive in the civilised world.

And in this context, Taking out IRAN becomes very important or if it is allowed to grow like Hitlers germany, then we will have to a harder time defeating them later. Make no mistake ,they will be defeated be it now or later.
Now will just make it easier and less effort and sacrifices.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:32 PM
It's a shame that these peoples will not listen...after all their society revolves around materialistic things, lack of faith , cats instead childrens and obesity.
As opposed to the spiritual pursuits of Muslims, like houris in heaven?
At least praying 5 times in that position will be good for your knees and heart.
By that yardstick, what Monica Lewinsky did was also good for her knees. If one had to choose between one or the other - tough call!
These peoples don't listen...but I have faith in Allah SWT ...global Islam will dominate...not as a result of Jihad....but the way of my Ahmadi teacher...peaceful dawa.
Translation: Naseem will succeed where Osama failed.
my back has started to hurt
Might do you good to focus less on your knees.

Hint: try being a wild, slutty womens

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:32 PM

I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. I only meant that Isreal is capable of speaking for itself. It doesn't need me to speak for it. I speak only as an American who is not Jewish. I would hope that there are at least a few people who agree with me.

Posted by: Balrog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:33 PM

If the Military isn't allowed to learn to defeat an armed Resistance in a urban enviroment. then what can we expect to deal with it when it starts here?

It was striking the number of Demoncrats who remained seated when the mention of winning was brought up.

I really hoped the Demoncrats wern't serious about Surrender.
I'm not aware when in history it occured where the party that ran away ever declared Victory in the conflict

Guess were making History.

The party who ragged on and on for 6 years about never having committed enough troops is now squaking about an increase.

The Demoncrats will use evey possible term to frame their lack of policy on Iraq to avoid admitting their policy is surrender.

Iraq is not a Bubble in and of itself.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:33 PM

Assalamau Laikum Rajesh,

you said "But as you sugessted forming Hindu death squads to eliminate them, I dont think that will ever happen".

From what I have read in History Hindoos formed highly successful running away squads...or hiding behid the sikh squads.

Hindoos would run as fast as their little legs would carry them...and hide behind trees and rocks...unfortunately for them ...this is exactly where the Koran asks the muslim to wait in times of war....not a good strategy.

Islam holds respect for sikhs...I acknowledge that they are brave and true fighters...they have certainly not allowed the light of Islam upon the hindu.

As for the jews...the tribe of the Quershi ...them went from hero to zero in a very short time....but those were the olden times...I hope never to see a repeat of that...which is why they would be safer in Montana.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:41 PM

"still being a wuslim is better than being Kafur."

"I heve been presenting much dawa to the kafur here in the hope of enlightening them and guiding them if and when they decide to convert. In my eyes they would be a wuslim (Western/white muslim)"

Interpretaion: I am a racist and hate white people. I want to convert white people to Islam, but will still hate them, although a little less than I hate the White Kufar. See how Islam has elightened me you can be this enlightened too.

Naseemism.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:43 PM

I just wonder why so many of you allowed yourself to be distracted by Naseem's propaganda. It always likes to post things to distract from the topic.

The topic is Ahmadjihad in Persia rattling his cage. He is a nutcase. That's it.

Posted by: payingattention [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:45 PM

Infidel pride
That was a good one and imm still laughing aloud.

At least praying 5 times in that position will be good for your knees and heart.

By that yardstick, what Monica Lewinsky did was also good for her knees. If one had to choose between one or the other - tough call.


No its not a tough call, even the Islamic woman would prefer strenthening their knees the Monica lewinsky way. hahahah
But they cant out of compuslion and i pity them cos their Islamic brothers and husbands do not give freedom to woman and do not respect them to choose their way of life.
Thats Islam for you. hahahaha

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:45 PM
Simple becase the hindu religion teaches us not to hate others and definetly not to kill others.
Like in the Ramayana? Mahabharata? Bhagawat Gita? How about the avatars of Vishnu - except Kurma, Vamana and Buddha, all of them engaged in killing/war, and the one yet to come - Kalki - is supposed to militarily wipe out evil from the face of the earth.
Thats why I support Bush. He has seen in the future and knows it is time to weaken them before they become a huge power too hot to handle.
I don't think you have been following Bush since 9/11 re: Islam. There is a reason he almost won the Dhimmi of the Year awards here in the last 2 years - he always refers to it as ROP, a noble religion (last SOTU), a religion hijacked by violent extremists, et al. And his advisors on the subject are Islam apologists like Karen Armstrong, Joe Esposito, et al.

I support taking out Iran, like you mentioned, but the problem of Jihad is far and wide greater than just Iran, or Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia - Islam has to be undermined in all the 50 countries that it holds sway.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:45 PM

Rajesh

My first statement was an assertion of the fact that Hinduism does call on people to wage war when it comes to confronting evil, and not cowering in the face of it.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:49 PM

but but but jimmy carter says we don't have to fear this!


/huge sarc tag

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24120_Carter-_Our_Country_Has_No_Reason_To_Be_Afraid&only

Posted by: Highrise [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:54 PM

Back on subject. There is simply no need to occupy Iran in order to diffuse the nuclear problem there. I order to sustain a nuclear program you have to have a strong central government in order to coalate vast resources. The Iranian government would be no harder to decapitate than Saddams. Once decapitated the chaos that would ensue would surely prevent them from pursuing nuclear weapons for a long long time. Check and Mate. We may not be able to occuy Iran for long but surely we could capture or kill most of the Baboons running it, destroy its nuclear infrastructure, then leave. Wrince and repeat as needed.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 5:56 PM

Iran's problem is that it actually is very weak militarilly but would gladly and without hesitation would use any weapon it could obtain against those it considers an enemy. The U.S. on the other hand is so much more powerful than Iran that it would be pathetic to compare the countries..in any military category. The problem with us is that we are so reluctant to use the power we have it is almost better if we didn't have the power and had no reluctance to fight.
We always start late which gives the poor dog with the responsibility to fight a harder go and more casualties. That will not help Iran when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 6:09 PM

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 24, 2007 04:53 PM

You need Hindutva death squads who'd liquidate not only your local Jihadis, but also your local dhimmi leadership

That is a disgusting and morally repugnant comment. Hindu nationalists are responsible not only for targetting Muslims, but ALSO CHRISTIANS throughout India. Entire families have been burnt alive by Hindu nationalists, who especially prey on lower caste converts to Christianity. Not a very informed or intelligent comment on your part.


Nasseem,

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Westerners. Just remember, it is the west that brought you the internet, which you are using to freely post your comments and ideas right now.

Posted by: Qualis Rex [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 6:10 PM

Yes, Naseem... you and Allah (SierraWhiskeyTango) can bugger off anytime...

And take that pedophile Mohammad (PissBeUponHim) with you.

Posted by: EricInTexas [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 6:15 PM

Qualis

I do condemn the killing of Christians. But there is only one case where that happened, which became a media firestorm in India, and the killer responsible there is on death row. I won't try to rationalize it by pointing to missionary activity, but take it from me - most Hindus take a dim view of Christian missionaries taking a condescending attitude towards Hindus, and what's worse - in the case of India - having a higher level of respect for Islam on the grounds of it being an 'Abrahamic' faith unlike Hinduism. If the Christian missionaries were so interested in saving peoples souls, why don't they start with Indian Muslims? Just bcos they're soulless? Thankfully, Christians in the West are largely more sensible.

However, as far as judgement goes, I do exactly what Islam does, and divide the world into Muslims and Infidels. While I condemn crimes committed against Infidels (the ones that aren't colluding with Muslims, that is), I advocate the same crimes committed against Muslims on the grounds that Muslims don't deserve the same considerations that normal humans do. So while I oppose, say, the Chinese persecution of Tibetan Buddhists, I do not give the same consideration to Hui Muslims. While I opposed the Serbian killing of Slovenes and Croats, I support the Serbs against both Bosnia and Kosovo.

In the above case, India's 130m Muslims are responsible for dhimmitude being so deeply embedded in Indian politics, as well as being an undermining force against India. The only way to reverse dhimmitude in India is to turn down the confidence of the ummah there, which has been at an all time high since the 7/11 bombings last year went un-answered. My above comments stand.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 6:29 PM

Oh, this story is funny. I never knew Iran was God and besides, who wrote this story ? He said; he said...."where's the beef ?"

I'm sure George and Olmert are shaking in their boots with this rhetoric nonsense. I ain't buying it, it's too ridiculous to believe.

Posted by: Jeff [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 6:49 PM

I've said this so many times, I am losing my breath. Oh well, I might as well say it again. Israel must strike hard, strike fast, and strike NOW! This is total war. Israel must hit all of Iran's military and nuclear sites and all of its' major population centers. It must be remembered that the Iranian people themselves, like the Germans and Japanese, are also the enemy. This Iranian government was put into power by them in 1979 of their own free will (albeit through revolution and not ballots). It has remained in power specifically because of either their tacit support or unwillingness to seriously oppose it in any way (perhaps both) even though it is carrying them and their country into a disastrous war which they are certain to lose. Furthermore, the cities of Iran are constitute the economic/industrial center of Iran and well as the regime's centers of political power for holding the country togeather. Annihilate them and the regime will disintegrate along with Iran as a threat to anyone else forever more. Lastly, it must be remembered they are almost all muslims. As such, they must be shown no mercy for they have shown none and will show none to Israel (or us for that matter). In this regard, Israel must play in their ballpark, so to speak. The total destruction of Iran would remove the greatest threat to both Israel and the West now and forevermore from that part of the world. it would also teach in no uncertain terms the remaining muslim states the severe consequences of jihadism. Now is not the time to be timid or sniveling about "human rights" for an enemy that doesn't know the meaning of the word.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:02 PM

NASEEM: YOU are going to educate us about Islam's talking trees and talking rocks that live in the Koran!!!?????!!!! that's funny!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!

And you are going to teach us that the world is FLAT too like the Loran says???????


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!


You who subsist on camel dung?????????????

You are, like Islam itself, a "regular riot."

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:16 PM

Some one said

Hindu nationalists are responsible not only for targetting Muslims, but ALSO CHRISTIANS throughout India. Entire families have been burnt alive by Hindu nationalists, who especially prey on lower caste converts to Christianity. Not a very informed or intelligent comment on your part.

Well

If that was the case

1) The president of India wouldnt be muslim.
2) Sonia gandhi is head of the Congress party and she is italian and a chrisitan. She was offered the post of PM but she handed it over to a sikh (Dr Manmohan singh). Thats secularism for you.
But I doubt if your little brain, poisioned by the Koran will ever understand all these things.

3) A very few chrisitans have ever been targetted and that also becasue of personal enemity over a single incident, it was not organised jihad like islam does. And anyway the hindu guy who killed the chrisitan missionary is in jail on life term and the life term was given by a Hindu judge.
So tell the full story not part of it. We did not glorify the hindu but punished him. Can you imagine Muslims punishing their own. Forget it you dont have the guts to even accept the truth about your religion.

As far as killing them ,the Muslims go, we all know who love killing the most. The world is witnessing the peaceful nature of Islam anyway.

As far as calling Hindu cowards,that has always been a state of denial of them muslims because they think our patience and non violent atittude and restrained even when attacked is cowardly. Dont be surprised ,becasue your actions will end the non violent nature soon someday and then we will see who the cowards are.

Like the hezbollah which hid behind civilians to fire rockets and then cried that Israeli kill civilians.If they were so brave why not come out in a uniform like the military and face the Israelis like real MEN.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:35 PM

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Westerners. Just remember, it is the west that brought you the internet, which you are using to freely post your comments and ideas right now.
Posted by: Qualis Re

Well not only the internet but everything modern that the Islamic world sees and uses today is Western or imported.
Well no surprsie is it.
Their mind works overttime planning jihad so why would they waste time on doing somethngi creative and good in the technological field for advancement of mankind. Do they even have the brains to understand interent or technology.
Oh I am sorry I forgot.
They hate mankind and prefer it to be in the 7th century.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:43 PM

From what I have read in History Hindoos formed highly successful running away squads...or hiding behind the sikh squads.

I assume the history book was written by Mohaammed or some islamic guy.
Any way I have tyo admire your Mullahs.
Thery do a fantastic job of telling you distorted stories.
Like the HEZBollah victory rally after Israel stopped bombing them. During the WAR your so called brave awrriors used women and children as shields.
Thats Islamic bravery for you.
And yes you will have respect for Sikhs becasue the kick your arse everytime everywere.
Also for you knowledge,Sikhism was formed from Hinduism to defend hinduism when your Islamic atrocities reached the threshold of patience by any peace loving person.

Naseem I dont blame you.
Your mohammed and koran was written by a peodophile ( child molester if u dont know the meaning).
Imagine what such a person will write.
Definetly not peace or tolerance.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:50 PM

Naseem,

I wouldn't get too excited about the prospect of you and Maryam teaching us ole' infidels all about the religion of peace. Maryam is, as I believe she's posted before, a rather new western convert to Islam. She's never lived in a Muslim country, therefore she's never lived under Sharia law, and when she comes in contact with it, her western sensibilities will rise to the surface and she will run for the hills, but fast. It's one thing to wax poetic about something you've never come in contact with, but quite another to actually live under brutal oppression and really, really like it. The western trained brain doesn't work that way, and her's is no exception.

And BTW, I'd like to ask you what you think about the article posted on 1/18/07 at Dhimmi Watch regarding the woman who posed in the Indonesian version of Playboy. All the Muslimas were up in arms and told her they wished her daughter would be raped. Would you say that is pro-Islamic or anti-Islamic thinking?

Or how about this one: Nazanin, the now 19 year old girl from Iran who was sentenced to death because she killed the perp that tried to rape her and her niece? Pro-Islamic or anti-Islamic?

And what about the fact that 75% of the women in Pakistan who are in prison are there because they went to the police to file complaints about being raped and ended up incarcerated for committing adultery? Pro-Islamic or anti-Islamic?

It seems you have a little bitty sexual problem with the men who practice your religion. Before you teach us to submit to those sexual freakazoids maybe we'llteach you how to be a good westerner. My offer still stands, to take you with me to the beach this summer, teach you how to drink margaritas and take you to get your toes done. ; )

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:51 PM

The Hindu said: 3) A very few chrisitans have ever been targetted and that also becasue of personal enemity over a single incident,

First, I am not Muslim, nor has my mind been poisoned by anything. You should learn some respect when you speak to people on this board or any other.

Second, I never said anything against the government of India, and I am aware there are Christians, Muslims as well as other minorities serving in it.

I simply stated that HINDU NATIONALISTS are responsible for MANY atrocities against Christians in India. It would appear you are indeed one of the many Hindus who prefers to dismiss and close your eyes at these atrocities, and instead focus on what others do. But in case you ever decide to wake up, here are a few websites for you:

Hindu radicals to protest against Christian orphanage in Himachal
Hindu Militants Attack Missionaries, Throw Teenager From Train
Catholic Nuns and Priests murdered by Hindus in India

It is an unfortunate fact that Hindus can be just as barbaric and bloody in their quest for domination of what they perceive as their "home" as Muslims.

Posted by: Qualis Rex [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2007 7:52 PM

NOTE: apparently we cannot post links on this site, so the ones above will not work. But any 3-year-old can go to google.com and type in Christian persecution India and you will get pages of results.

Posted by: Qualis Rex