I would have set up some explosives operated by
trip wires at the entrance to the bunker......
and just left it to be discovered by the enemy

Posted by: general pershing at January 27, 2007 8:31 AM

Re Psychotics, tunnelers, and public relations:

Israel is the collective Jewish-Dhimmi state in the Mideast. It's problems are rooted in the doctrines of Islam. Not enough people understand that.

Israel has lousy public relations. For example, by placing emphasis on the holocaust as a reason-need for Israel's existence, Jews allow the world to forget that roughly 50% of Israel's population is made up of Mideast Jews who fled Muslim countries. Thus the Psychotic-In-Iran gets away with pretending that the essence of the alleged problem with Israel is rooted in the Holocaust.

The truth is that if all the Jewish people in Israel were only Jews who fled the superior morals and family values of Islam, the issue would still be the annihilation of Israel. The world must understand that these tunnelers are not victims, but the stormtroopers of those who desire to again dominate Jews in Dar-al-Islam.

The foreign minister of Israel said a few months ago just about what I write here: Israel has lousy public relations. It is essential to let the world know that what happened with the Nazis is only half the reason for why Israel must continue to exist and why the Arab Mideast wants Israel's Jews to resume their Dhimmi status in Dar-al-Islam, why they desire to destroy Israel.

Posted by: Frank at January 27, 2007 8:52 AM

I guess the peaceful Islamic Palestinians are building bunkers now ? Everytime I think of the public execution of Nick Berg, with all the preaching of Islam, I see this is not a peaceful religion at all.

Posted by: Jeff at January 27, 2007 9:08 AM

Oops, I meant to say, "Hesbo's"; arn't they the same but carry a different color flag ? In short, Islam are a bunch of rats.

Posted by: Jeff at January 27, 2007 9:10 AM

"I would have set up some explosives operated by
trip wires at the entrance to the bunker......
and just left it to be discovered by the enemy"

......I would have favored this action..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 27, 2007 9:20 AM

Final comment re Israel's lousy public relations: Everyone is acquainted with Holocaust Studies, but I never see anything about Middle Eastern Jewish Refugee Studies, etc. I suspect that because of the generally better education of European Jewish people, and the general lack of educational opportunities given Jews in Islamic countries, that there is a certain Holocaust-centric view with many of the leaders in Israel re the need for the Jewish state. But the Holocaust is only half the story of why Israel exists and must continue to exist.

The Holocaust-centric view is why the psychotic-in-Iran and other Muslims (who it is asserted have superior moral and family values) get away with their clever public relations re Israel on the world stage. I think the Holocaust-centric view re Israel is exploited by her enemies.

Posted by: Frank at January 27, 2007 9:24 AM

Hizballah bunkers are merely the outward and visible sign of an internal danger -- a danger that menaces Israel, but also England, and France, and Germany, and Spain, and Belgium, and Italy, and the Netherlands, and Denmark, and Norway, and Sweden, and Russia, and even, if lessons are not learned from all of the above, whose situation needs to be keenly observed, in other Infidel lands in the New World, north and south. Naturally the reader will care the most about his own country, but he should also realize that the slow but steady demographic advances made by Islam, promoted by the failure of governments and men to recognize the essence of this hostile creed, in this or that advanced nation of the West, will have, has had, civilizational as well as obvious military consequences.

Posted by: Hugh at January 27, 2007 10:10 AM

> Is Islam a problem in Argentina?

As a South American, I can say that there is not a big Muslim population in Argentina (and in South America in general), but Hezbollah cells are present. There were bloody attacks against the Israeli embassy in 1993 and Jewish organisation AMIA in 1994 which killed hundreds (Argentina has a significative Jewish population). The attacks were sponsored by Iran. Recently the Argentinian government has ordered the arrest of Iranian diplomats and an ex-president for the attacks, a largely symbolic gesture, but that resulted in new veiled threats from Iran.
Also, the extreme left wing in the country is pro-palestinian, anti-semitical and pro-Iranian and is clearly connected to terrorist groups.
But Muslim immigration isn't (yet?) a big problem.

Posted by: cronopio at January 27, 2007 10:20 AM

I wonder how reliable this news source is. Is this current news? France24.com? Never heard of it...
The only specifics in this article, with regard to time, are that it references "Friday" and the war this past summer. I'm not convinced. Google search of certain quotes within that article come up with nothing. Can we get a confirmation of this news?

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at January 27, 2007 11:28 AM

"promoted by the failure of governments and men to recognize the essence of this hostile creed,"

........I suspect the governments are learning to recognize the essence of this hostile creed...I see the bigger problem is that those governments continue to refuse to become more proactive in combating the enemy in a way that only the enemy can understand......The governments continue to finance and support the very entities that support and supply the very enemy whose goal is to conquer and dominate the people and lands those governments are supposed to protecting.....

...it boggles the mind....Why give money and arms to the enemy.....Why allow the enemy into your lands....Why subject yourself to enemy demands....Why allow the enemy into your armed forces, your police forces, your government....Why do you allow your court systems to give more credence to the enemies complaints over your own citizens complaints...

......Why indeed........

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 27, 2007 11:34 AM

"But! Where are all those 'moderates' condemning this? nothing yet again."- s_sgt7

Are you serious? Some obscure news source reports this, with almost no information regarding time an place, and from what I gather, no other news source has reported this. And you expect "moderates" (or anyone else for that matter) who have in all likelyhood never even heard of this event to condemn it? Come now. I understand the threat of Islam, but lets not loose our heads here!

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at January 27, 2007 11:52 AM

Islam is devil-worship.

I think I'd rather have a country full of satanists than Islam on the boarder.

Posted by: Kash at January 27, 2007 11:52 AM

Those advocating limiting President Bush's ability to use force against Iran need take a close look at Iranian sponsored Hezbollah. Of course, I am going to post before the weekend ends an article on this subject. I'm going to ask people to send it to their representatives to be entered into the congressional record of any discussion to limit the use of force against Iran.

Israel has every right to be concerned about Hezbollah, and every right to take actions to take actions to defend against this beast of Iran. Hezbollah is not a greatest danger to Israel and to the world. The greater danger is head of this puppet.

Posted by: RoxieAmerica at January 27, 2007 11:52 AM

Go Israel! Where there are two bunkers, then there are going to be more. God speed in finding them all!!!

Posted by: champ at January 27, 2007 11:59 AM

Iran will see massive military soon....and more than one or two countries will be involved...it will happen soon....Iran deserves no special consideration or sympathy.....Hizbollah is but one of hundreds of terrorist organizations (it seems a new group appears every time your get up in the morning...they are all the same ..Islamic), Islam has won a few battles, but they will lose the war.......

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 27, 2007 12:00 PM

ThinkForYourself --

Maybe the 'Moderates' haven't heard of this particular news headline, but as a whole they are very weak in speaking out against terrorism within their own religion -- very weak!

Anyone who sits quietly by and says nothing against terrorism, or says/does NEXT to nothing, is an accomplice to terrorism.

And sadly, s_sgt7 is right, because that DOES describe Moderate Muslims on the whole.

Posted by: champ at January 27, 2007 12:20 PM

Fury as Council axes Holocaust memorial service

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at January 27, 2007 1:42 PM

That's fine, Champ, I don't necessarily disagree with the principal, but that isn't the point I was trying to make. What I'm curious about is the relevance of the article posted for this thread.Sniping at something that hasn't been confirmed accomplishes very little.

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at January 27, 2007 2:17 PM

With what we would be leaving them without meal and without water.
Posted by: Claudia

Thank you for letting us know of this Sapnish link. They sure have lots of information. I will pass this on to mis amigos Hispanos so they can read the info in the language that is easiest for them.

Also so they know their brethren also share our common concerns re. pigslam.

¡Afuera musulmanes!

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 27, 2007 2:47 PM

There are many times when the "story" is brief and seldom heard, carrys a great deal of weight.

Why would you expect the MSM to report something that makes who they support look bad?

Someone needs to set the stage so Israel will look bad if it responds.

They couldn't possibly be digging Tunnels

Israel is really not being very nice with this whole defensive wall business. If it wasn't for the wall, the Neighbors wouldn't have to do so much digging just to get in.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at January 27, 2007 2:49 PM

"Naturally the reader will care the most about his own country, but he should also realize that the slow but steady demographic advances made by Islam, promoted by the failure of governments and men to recognize the essence of this hostile creed, in this or that advanced nation of the West, will have, has had, civilizational as well as obvious military consequences." - Hugh

Never a truer word was spoken. A long sentence? Yes, but well worth the effort. It's time for all nations facing this threat to wake up.

Posted by: Clair Voyant at January 27, 2007 3:07 PM

ThinkForYourself-- I found 14 reports in a simple search of GoogleNews, regarding the destruction of two Hezbollah bunkers within Israeli territory. Each story is virtually the same, but at least there are dates, times attached. Here is but two links:

Jersalem Post

Haaretz.com

One with a photo!

Posted by: localmalcontent at January 27, 2007 3:18 PM

Thanks LMC. ;)

Israel must be letting down their guard to let the Hizbolla get by with bunkers within their borders. :D

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at January 27, 2007 3:37 PM

Mother Ecclesiastica.wrote:

Is Islam a problem in Argentina?
...............................................

I'm no expert on the region, but here are a few things I do know:

Muslims are a very small part of the population in Argentina, (estimated at less than one million), but a bigger problem than you might think.

In 1994, a major Jewish Community Center was blown up in Buenos Aires. 86 dead, over 300 wounded. Iran is thought to be behind the bombing.

The "Triple Frontera" area, at the borders of Argentina, Paraguay, and Brazil, has always been a wild area rife with drug runners and arms sales. Lately, though, it has been a big haven for Hizb'allah, Islamic Jihad, and Al-Qaida to raise money and make arms deals.

There is little coordinated cooperation between these nations, so perpetrators can easily slip back and forth across the borders of the three countries. Corruption is wide-spread in local law enforcement, with a lot of bribe-taking to "look the other way" made by these terrorist groups. Even with honest cops, many in regional law enforcement are simply scared of them--for instance, few police patrol at night because it is simply too dangerous. There have been a few busts here and there, but these groups generally act with complete impunity.

Posted by: gravenimage at January 27, 2007 5:15 PM

Mother Ecclesiastica.wrote:

Is Islam a problem in Argentina?
...............................................

I'm no expert on the region, but here are a few things I do know:

Muslims are a very small part of the population in Argentina, (estimated at less than one million), but a bigger problem than you might think.

In 1994, a major Jewish Community Center was blown up in Buenos Aires. 86 dead, over 300 wounded. Iran is thought to be behind the bombing.

The "Triple Frontera" area, at the borders of Argentina, Paraguay, and Brazil, has always been a wild area rife with drug runners and arms sales. Lately, though, it has been a big haven for Hizb'allah, Islamic Jihad, and Al-Qaida to raise money and make arms deals.

There is little coordinated cooperation between these nations, so perpetrators can easily slip back and forth across the borders of the three countries. Corruption is wide-spread in local law enforcement, with a lot of bribe-taking to "look the other way" made by these terrorist groups. Even with honest cops, many in regional law enforcement are simply scared of them--for instance, few police patrol at night because it is simply too dangerous. There have been a few busts here and there, but these groups generally act with complete impunity.

Posted by: gravenimage at January 27, 2007 5:17 PM

Last august I was travelling with the family in south america (brother's wedding). We spent a few days in Ciudad del Este and then travelled to Asuncion for the actual wedding. WHile we were there I recall travelling out of the city to a few other places, and I remember spotting a mosque. It was huge, much bigger than anything we've got or something. It made me quite sad to think that Islam might have a toe-hold in that country... though, on the bright side, according to a site I just found the muslims living in Paraguay are worried that their children will be absorbed in to mainstream paraguayan life and lose their islamic identity.

Roll on paraguayan life. They should enjoy it. Paraguay is a beautiful country, and it already has more than its fair share of problems without islamists taking over. I pray they never do.

Posted by: Archonix at January 27, 2007 5:36 PM