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"What is at stake is not just the destiny of the Muslim world but indeed the whole of mankind." Indeed.
"Sydney conference speaker demands Islamic state," from Australia's ABC News, with thanks to JE:
A speaker at a conference in Sydney's south-west says a revolution or a civil war may be necessary in order to create an Islamic state, or caliphate.The meeting has been organised by the controversial Muslim group Hizb ut-Tahrir, which is banned in several countries overseas....
One of today's speakers, Ashraf Doureihi, told the audience action needs to be taken to ensure an Islamic state is created.
"It is important... [to move] collectively in the Muslim world to demand this change from such influential people in our lands, even if it means spilling onto the streets to create a revolution or staging a military coup," he said.
Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Wasim Durie has told the audience a number of speakers will address the meeting today and discuss ways of establishing an Islamic super-state.
"As we were here today, what is at stake is not just the destiny of the Muslim world but indeed the whole of mankind," he said.
Posted by Robert at January 28, 2007 1:04 AM
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"'As we were here today, what is at stake is not just the destiny of the Muslim world but indeed the whole of mankind,' he {Ashraf Doureihi] said."
-- from the article above
He's right about that.
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at January 28, 2007 1:29 AM
Like kids with spray paint. They just can’t help themselves.
It might not be a revolution, but I sense change in the air.
at January 28, 2007 1:32 AM
In full view; undiluted Islamic hubris. The psychopaths in Sydney are so full of themselves, they don't even bother to conceal their violent tendencies. The only thing more pathetic than these cretins is the fact that the West is still deaf and blind to this threat. Unfortunately, it will take another "9-11" or worse to wake up the West.
Posted by: Xero G at January 28, 2007 1:41 AM
Got an update here already:
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at January 28, 2007 1:48 AM
Revolution huh? So be it. But after the counterrevolution happens the only place one will find Muslims and Islam will be in a history book.
There and in graveyards.
at January 28, 2007 1:52 AM
Morris Iemma has now called for a ban on Hizb ut Tahrir. One small step for that "mankind" Ashraf Doureihi mentions above -- but not the one he had in mind.
Posted by: Hugh at January 28, 2007 1:59 AM
ISLAMISFOR LOSERS,
You said,
" . . . the only place one will find Muslims and Islam will be in a history book.
There and in graveyards."
Second the motion! is it a motion yet? Am I premature?
Ashraf Douhelhi said:
" . . . even if it means spilling onto the streets to create a revolution. . . . "
If he only knew how many people here in the US are looking forward to this--Moslems spilling into the streets, demanding a caliphate, an Islamic state here in the US, shariah, etc.
The police powerless to stop the rioting Moslems, the National guard called out--only most of them are in Iraq, and the ones here will have to be unarmed or not be issued ammonution and civil unrest becomes intolerable . . .
the rest--for the time being--eill have to remain silence.
at January 28, 2007 2:10 AM
Two comments...
The first is; isn't this incitment or some other form of anarchist statement that can lead to detention in one of the many detention camps set up for mulsims in Australia(sarcasm add
ded)
Secondly, a way to deal with this utter nonsense is to simply have state control over these meetings by suspect groups...for example the aussie authorities could simply post an official "reader" at each of these "islam is a religion of peace" conventions and proof read all of the speeches these morons write while on the toilet. That way if anything as obnoxious as this is spotted the "convention" of peace loving muslims is cancelled FULL STOP. EVEN FREEDOM OF SPEECH HAS LIMITS FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!
By the way I noticed how all the moderates in the audience spoke out againt these extremists trying to hijack their religion of peace.
Time and time again Muslims have shown themselves to be completely useless. This is but one of many examples of how they have become masters of the art of wasting their minimal brain power on contiving conspiracy theories. In fact this latest incident merely reinforces my point that NOTHING has changed in islam from a doctrinal standpoint in 14 hundred years and it is therefore inconceivable that the much touted age of enlightment fosterd by repeated muslim conquests of the orient and Southern Europe contributed anything to mankind other than the most erudite statement by the holy peodiphile prophet mohamed that you should wipe your ass with a rock.
NUFF SAID...CRUISE MISSLES REQUIRED!!
SHUNKLEASH (PBUH)
Posted by: Shunkleash
at January 28, 2007 2:14 AM
Well at least with the ban on firearms no one will get hurt, right? And if the muslims already control that continent then they don't have to worry about communist China ever attacking them. And maybe we can take in Australian refugees here that will open people's eyes? That's if liberals will accept they fear for their lives.
Posted by: Catawhumpus at January 28, 2007 2:25 AM
One more shit-hole they want for the islamonazifeces.
Posted by: Truth at January 28, 2007 3:10 AM
at January 28, 2007 3:37 AM
They are really gearing up.
One thing to our advantage is that they will kill each other too.
Today:
Pattani - Visiting Islamic affairs ministers from three Arab countries narrowly escaped a bomb attack in this southern border province Sunday morning, police said.
... plus their islamic interior minister
Posted by: Arnie at January 28, 2007 4:09 AM
For the troubles they are up to in the Asian Pacific region:
Ask and it shall be given, abundently and towards their extinction.
Posted by: Arnie at January 28, 2007 4:24 AM
Best news i`ve heard in ages , yeah...please stop
vaccinating them>>>>>
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2570067,00.html
A MUSLIM doctors’ leader has provoked an outcry by urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella because it is “un-Islamic”.
He argued that leading “Islamically healthy lives” would be enough to ward off illnesses and diseases...blah , blah , blah...
“You see, God created us perfect and with a very strong defence system. If you breast-feed your child for two years — as the Koran says — and you eat Koranic food like olives and black seed, and you do ablution each time you pray, then you will have a strong defence system,” he said.
Medieval cretins.
at January 28, 2007 4:34 AM
For the troubles they are up to in the Asian Pacific region:
Ask and it shall be given, abundently and towards their extinction.
Posted by: Arnie at January 28, 2007 4:39 AM
Pakistani Christian Accused of Blasphemy for Asking for Her Property Back
The Washington-DC based human rights group, International Christian Concern (ICC) www.persecution.org has just learned that police have arrested a Pakistani Christian woman on false charges of blasphemy against Islam. Martha Bibi, who lives in Kot Nanka Singh, a small village of 400 families in Pakistan’s Kasur District, was accused of blasphemy after she requested the return of building materials she had lent to a group of Muslims building a mosque. She was taken into custody on Monday, January 22.
Religion of peace or religion of alibabas?
at January 28, 2007 5:00 AM
Were there huge Nazi rallies in 1938 in the US or Australia? No, I don't believe there was. This conflict is going to be very different with so many Muslims living in dar al harb.
Posted by: John Sobieski at January 28, 2007 5:16 AM
It might not be a revolution, but I sense change in the air.
Posted by: pez
More like a DEvolution..
at January 28, 2007 5:26 AM
They are showing more and more their real face.
Yesterday I observed a road accident with one muslim involved, one person got injured.
Within five minutes there were dozens of muselmans coming from all direction with any means of transportation, men were accompanied by their ninjas.
I'm not talking about a muslim country or city, no, but a Buddhist country and city.
at January 28, 2007 5:34 AM
To repeat the above:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2570067,00.html
Once again, it is shown that Islam is intrinsically evil, bent on destroying all through war AND disease.
Posted by: theoldman at January 28, 2007 5:41 AM
You'll all be glad to hear this story is headline news over here, people cannot continue to ignore the ape gallivanting around the house for too much longer...
Posted by: eloivsdiablo at January 28, 2007 5:58 AM
You'll all be glad to hear this story is headline news over here, people cannot continue to ignore the ape gallivanting around the house for too much longer...
Posted by: eloivsdiablo at January 28, 2007 05:58 AM
Glad to hear that. I also realize a srong increase of Australian visitors to my site. Seems that more and more people getting aware in "Down Under". This headlines look like of having created a shock.
"Lucky You" with your PM, other countries are not so fortunate.
Posted by: Arnie at January 28, 2007 6:09 AM
Just got an idea for our Australian friends.
Why not read Robert Spencers book and/or donate one to each Mayor in Australia.
PS: don't forget Brigitte Gabriel's book "Because they hate"
Posted by: Arnie at January 28, 2007 6:15 AM
This is another example of inciting (fomenting) revolution, and the culprit will be left alone. This is one revolutionary who should be punished, but he will not.
When the first car bomb goes off in Sidney or Canberra it will be too late. Our governments are failing to protect our freedom.
Posted by: Pelayo at January 28, 2007 6:59 AM
Aladdinsane 57,
Thanks for posting that! I spit out my dinner laughing!! Think I'll go down to the main mosque here and let my dogs run through again during evening prayers. If they complain, I'll just tell that I'm helping them develop a strong immune system by making them do ablutions again. Hahahaha!!!
Posted by: bigwhiteinfidel at January 28, 2007 7:01 AM
"Were there huge Nazi rallies in 1938 in the US or Australia? No, I don't believe there was. This conflict is going to be very different with so many Muslims living in dar al harb."
Posted by: John Sobieski"
I wasn't born then, Jan,lol! However the Aussies did whatever Churchill told them during WW2.
I admired the man, but he wouldn't help us as his hands were tied in Europe.
In the end we were saved by the US.
I agree it will be very different. Nazis were contained. Now we have a fifth column in our great Western lands.
Funny how they all want sharia law: I bet those hippocrites would hate living under sharia law. Of course they are no doubt looking forward to getting their jyza and booty.
Posted by: Gramfan at January 28, 2007 7:32 AM
from a quick search in the MSM, Ashraf Doureihi seems to be well-known in Australia as an extremist, and so his latest utterances, while refreshingly frank, should not be a surprise down under.
however, this story reminded me that i need to read up on Treason.
Treason seems to be a word we are not allowed to use in the UK whenever Muslims are involved, but
i really think that we need to start talking about it now because that may help us to avoid a lot of pain later.
i found this for Australia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misprision_of_treason
and this more generally:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
enforcing existing laws, even very old ones, maybe a quick and effective way to deal with people like Ashraf Doureihi, rather than tortuously introducing new laws.
when i am done with Treason, i think i will need to start on Banishment...can we still do that, i wonder ?
at January 28, 2007 7:37 AM
Who needs guns to fight the radicals?
Breathing atomized pork fat expelled under great pressure from CO2 guns would deter even the most moderate Muslim revolutionist.
Don't laugh...bacon grease soaked BB's could become the street weapon of choice for Aussies.
Kidding aside, I hope they toss this traitor and others like him pronto.
at January 28, 2007 7:47 AM
has anyone heard anything from the "Australian politician"?. the gorilla in the house can only be ingored for so long.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 28, 2007 7:48 AM
"A MUSLIM doctors’ leader has provoked an outcry by urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella because it is “un-Islamic”.
He argued that leading “Islamically healthy lives” would be enough to ward off illnesses and diseases...blah , blah , blah..."
Yes, and now they'll be able to infect others with their physical, as well as spiritual disease.
Think anyone will have the guts to pull his meducal licence?
at January 28, 2007 8:22 AM
On Australia day, just travelling around the suburbs here, I've never seen so many Aussie flags in my life, hanging off balconies, flying out of car windows etc! We tend to be low-key on the patriotism, but this was something else. I felt as if it was a reaction the the ingrates and imported parasites that have been putting up with here lately. I was actually quite moved by this, and I try to be optimistic despite our governments weak response to these islamic subversives.
Posted by: savitch at January 28, 2007 8:57 AM
"Funny how they all want sharia law: I bet those hippocrites would hate living under sharia law. Of course they are no doubt looking forward to getting their jyza and booty."
Gramfan, I find that interesting too. But it's not the people who live under it and who are oppressed by it who are clamoring for it. It's the young Muslims in the west who haven't lived as long as some of us and don't have enough experiences under their belt to make an informed decision who wax poetic about it. It's very easy to promote an ideology that exists on the other side of the world and doesn't affect you while you enjoy the freedom an benefits that come from not living under it on this side of the world. Hypocrisy, thy name is Islam.
Savitch,
I noticed something last night when I was driving through a country area with big expensive houses. The Christmas lights were on at several of the houses as we drove and my friend's husband remarked that it drives his wife crazy to see Christmas lights up at the end of January. But I took it another way. So many people have been told that we're a bunch of bigots because we don't give equal time for ridiculous "holidays" (like the one that celebrates the slaughter of the Quraysh in Islam,) that I think people are sending a message of solidarity for Christmas. It was heartening to see those cheerful lights in the very dark country night. I didn't count them but we made a game of looking for them and we played it for quite a while.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at January 28, 2007 9:29 AM
Can we say someone is suffering from Infidelobia?
I would think Australia is threatened as much today as she was by Japan in WWII. Worse even. Considering the enemy has already landed and in entrenched positions. As are so many others.
All Allahs minions are required to suffer Infidelobia. They seem to be allowed to express their Phobias freely. Just try countering those expressions with a little common sence and get slapped with a worse Phobia.
Were all being out Phobiad
Posted by: flowerknife_us at January 28, 2007 9:29 AM
Pro Islamic voices in Austrailian Gov.
Posted by: havekoranwilltravel at January 28, 2007 9:51 AM
Yeah, a classic example is Vietnam ! 1954, President Diem and Eisenhower were shaking hands and holding onto the U.S.Treasury for stabilizing South Vietnam. Kennedy wanted it stopped, and LBJ went to war ! Figure it out, it's all about MONEY!
Where is Vietnam today ? Well, Russia and China didn't come-in to take over, in fact, China went to war in 1979 against the idiots....it only took 10 days to put their butts down, where it took us 20 years and tons of money; and then pay war reparations ! Now, Vietnam is at the World Trade Organization making more money ! WHERE'S OUR 63000 SOLDIERS, WHAT WERE THEY KILLED FOR !
Posted by: Jeff at January 28, 2007 9:51 AM
I am no expert on Australian law but here in America calling for the violent overthrow of the government is a federal crime. I would assume Australian law is similar and I am therefore wondering why the Australian government has made no move to arrest this muslim punk? As I stated in a previous post, any government not willing to use force to uphold it's laws is no longer a government but merely becomes another contending party in a civil war and probably the losing party. By not acting, the Australian government is also risking the future constitutional rights and safety of its' people. This scumbag and his scumbag friends will now of course be even more emboldened and inflammatory the next time.
Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 28, 2007 10:35 AM
Why can't these buttheads understand that they are WELCOME to have an islamic STATE OVER THERE! Move back to Iran. Get the hell out of the US, Australia, UK, Europe and have your islamic State.
LIVE AND LET LIVE
If they refuse, blow them up. I'm sick of them. FULL STOP.
Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 10:42 AM
P.S. Let's send our lefty-liberal puppet politicians like Nancy Pilosi and TED Kennedy over there too. Since they LOVE islam so much.
Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 10:43 AM
P.S. Let's send our lefty-liberal puppet politicians like Nancy Pilosi and TED Kennedy over there too. Since they LOVE islam so much.
Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 10:43 AM
God, that would be a great big bonus! Getting rid of both the muslims and liberals at the same time! We'd have heaven on earth! :)
Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 28, 2007 11:09 AM
Here AGAIN musliiiiiiiime infidels are threatening the overthrow of a western nation for the umpteenth time and MY suggestion to ban the koran, outlaw islam, and deport ALL muslims has not been used.
When will certain useless politicians wake up and smell the muslim?
I think the Australian people need again to beatdown, pimpslap, and chase out these muslim dog, moonwoshipping, women beating cowards out of Australia.
EVERYWHERE muslims move into the world that same area WITHIN MONTHS TURNS INTO CRIME-RIDDEN GHETTOS. Ever hear of Malmo, Sweden, suburban Paris, London and any islamic city or nation?
Muslims can not live with civilized people.
I said it repeatedly that MUSLIMS DO NOT BELONG ANYWHERE IN THE FREEWORLD AND STATEMENTS AS THESE ARE 1 REASON OF MANY TO DEPORT THEM BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
at January 28, 2007 11:35 AM
Why cannot the politicians add up? The more Muslims you have the more problems you have simple as.
They want separation from the western values let alone change try and fit in into a country that was established as a democracy.
Does anyone see that this is the same attitude as the Palestinians who do not want to fit into Israel a democracy but would rather die and be labelled martyrs? Yet the Eurabians see them as oppressed but you allow them to make the laws and then tell me who will be oppressed their version of freedom is to pretend a prison is luxury as long one cannot argue against it.
Why is this guy allowed to speak such separation in a country he obviously has no respect for and I find that like the so little amount of westerns who would rather stay home than rather live in the deep Middle East or north Africa because they decided the fit where there grand parents were born. Mass Muslim immigration is an agenda to pollute and separate the host nation like a virus and I am glad in a way that war in Iraq and Afghanistan has happened because to counter act this indigestion we need to put a few new pills in the right places or where it hurts most. It is becoming a point where the unpredictable information and transport age will accelerate cultures to a speed that won't mix but shred it self by the tension and the is causes an pre-emptive strike. I can see why the Iranian president uses offence pre-emptive talks of threats because the world has speeded up and everyone is speeding up waiting to reach a fever pitch. There is less social evolution the patience has run out people want things in the now on both sides but sometimes because the one who gets there first will survive and avoid the fall out its a gamble that can spark Wars and has.
at January 28, 2007 11:35 AM
Again, I have 1 more statement to declare.
We should ALL be thankful for the right to bear arms hear in beautiful America to defend us against the coming threat of islamic attacks.
I have seen police forces become overwhelmed before in national emergencies and have always realized all of us must be prepared to depend on ourselves for self-protections from all threats.
The biggest threat now is obviously muslims with their bombs-demographic and nuclear-and all citizens have a responsiblility in the assistance of defending this constitutional republic against all threats.
My FOID card has been renewed and you all need to get 1 if you currently dont have it.
Support American businessmen and gun manufacturers everywhere and purchase your own protection.
I am not a gunstore owner, just a prepared citizen.
This is an islamic, global war against democracies everywhere, most people just dont realize it or are too scared to admit it.
at January 28, 2007 11:45 AM
Also this Islamic state could be something that has already been prophesied where Iran, the help of Russia, parts of Asia Minor Turkey, Libya, Ethiopia - could be old part now Somalia or Ethiopia turned Muslim in the future, and the surrounding mostly Islamic nations that want to bully upon Israel one day and are already. I guess it takes this kind of Islamic world order to bring about this war where to illuminate Israel is the centre of the agenda.
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/xfile-10.html
http://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/eschatology/ezekiel.htm
Where this was seen as absurd even 50 years ago,
Israel is a nation now, Babylon Iraq is back on an international scale, Iran is a threat to the world, Russia is a supplier, Somalia sends its troops to fight sometimes, Turkey is proving less tolerant to be part of Europe and no bet their fanatics would join the war against Israel if they are the rock that does not move and will try and bring this Caliphate Islam to reality.
This is just prophecy being fulfilled and the ones who do the fulfilling are the ones who never read the scriptures or accepted them.
Everone has their view point this is just one.
at January 28, 2007 12:08 PM
The fact that all the speakers and attendees of this Sydney event were not arrested, incarcerated & interrogated and/or deported, is more disturbing than the event itself or the words spoken there.
PC is worse than Islam.
Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 12:16 PM
remote_control
If a devil exists as some do and do not believe then he is weakening the hearts of the good it's like the politicains are hypnotised or decieved and yet just stair and let it happen. There are other things involved a mass deception. I can not immagine if after WW2 the politicians then who ended up having to be real men and know to love their nations would have put up with this. Why is everyone blind to this why are they letting it happen?
There are many dark forces at work and I believe that this must take place first before people wake up. There will be a world war 3 there will be a world war 4, 5 and 1000 years later a 6 so the time people counted WW1 there is more to come the ball is rolling. But believe what you will.
at January 28, 2007 12:36 PM
Arnie, you wrote,
"Yesterday I observed a road accident with one muslim involved, one person got injured.." I saw something very similar, I was on a bus, there was an accident up ahead (a black-burka clad woman, injured(?), sitting in the back seat of a car -- been struck by an Infidel's car, the Infidel was a blonde-haired woman in the driver's seat.. who looked very distressed, dazed...) and as the bus crossed the intersection (where the accident had occurred between the two cars), I saw this huge convergence of all these hijab-wearing, cell phone Muslims -- there must have been dozens, and dozens of them, all converging to the scene. And, no, this wasn't in Pakistan or Cairo, it was here in Canada. It was an incredible scene.
We have GOT to stop the immigration of Muslim third-worlders into western countries; we must start NOW with a strict quota or simply put a stop entirely on their immigration/migration plans. It's ridiculous. (I think Britain can be written off, ditto pretty much for Canada, and ditto for Australia...these countries will be under the murderous Jack-boots of the Islamists in a matter of a few years time).
at January 28, 2007 1:36 PM
We should ALL be thankful for the right to bear arms hear in beautiful America to defend us against the coming threat of islamic attacks.
Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at January 28, 2007 11:45 AM
Right you are, Hungarian Crusader! As I have said many times on this site, the only reason we have avoided the muslim riots that the denizens of England, Australia, and France have gotten is that the islamic cockroackes know the average American is usually armed to the teeth. Our old adage "Don't tread on me" still sets us apart from the rest of the world!
at January 28, 2007 1:39 PM
That nutjob in australia is delusional. Unlike the Christians and other religious minorities in muslims countries, Christians in non muslim countries are armed. They would not hesitate to shoot.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at January 28, 2007 4:04 PM
Too bad Mr. Ashraf Doureihi did not explain, succinctly enough for the PC leadership and law enforcment agencies, exactly where this revolution he speaks of should start. Overhere, in the land of the free, I would hope that explicit calls to violent revolution would have legal consequences. Apparently, this is not taken as seriously as it should be in the land down under.
Perhaps also, Mr. Ashraf Doureihi could enlighten the world what the goal of this 'Islamic State' would be. Maybe the world could tolerate their little backward state, where they would be free to stone aldulters, kill homosexuals, flog men without beards, have sex (within marriage of course) with pre-pubescent girls, beat women, kill women for trying to obtain education, kill apostates, rape a woman if there aren't at least (4) male witnesses around, and commit a host of other atrocities amongst their fellow Islamic countrymen. Unfortunately, as was demonstrated by Taliban Afganistan, it is only a matter of time before such primitive theocrats export their violence and become a real problem to the rest of the world.
at January 28, 2007 4:06 PM
"Why cannot the politicians add up? The more Muslims you have the more problems you have"
I'll tell you why
Because the politicians are puppets. They are controled by big business (lobbyists) who want the muslims and illegal immigrants here.
WHY?
Americans are having 1 or 2 kids average. The babyboomers are getting old. Not enough young people to fund our social security, to pay taxes and to provide cheap labor.
Ask yourself this. If they get rid of illegals and muslims....WHO will work when all of us babyboomers are too sick, too stressed and too old?
This is also why they are NOT closing our borders.
Do a google search on the North American Union. It's an eye-opener.
Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 5:35 PM
"Why cannot the politicians add up? The more Muslims you have the more problems you have"
(The Goobe)
I'll tell you why
Because the politicians are puppets. They are controled by big business (lobbyists) who want the muslims and illegal immigrants here.
(end quote)
Hi there, I can guess why my self I think this was more of a question to see what people thought overall. The problem is all the Middle Eastern ties as well with business.
Also there are other agenda for example why America does nothing about immigration as well as the UK compared to how the public want it. It's called Order out of Chaos the Islamic agenda is not much different from the New World Order conspiracy theories because as the NWO thinkers put it there are Satanic inspired organisations that will try and create Chaos so that we give into the restrictions. This to imprison us into submission by voting or mass acceptance to a world where all the basic rights is taken away. This agenda will want to wipe Christianity off the map, basic freedoms taken away and a big brother system that will see all your behaviour and tell you what and not think and not think.
Islam is also a puppet in this their agenda as it will help this come about also why do you think nothing is done about it. It will result in a Godless system that will eventually hand the keys over to the greatest evil mankind has seen. This has many avenues to which the agenda may take form.
UfOlogist minded think of an alien type world order, some a bloodline of another dimension filtering in, religions as the apocalypse, atheists as an Big Brother prison planet and some who believe are just open and not sure.
Where you have Jihadwatch you have
http://prisonplanet.tv/
Which is ok but it thinks the fault the West and does not see the other elements sometimes that this site brings. Not been there a while his angle may have changed.
http://jimmydeyoung.gospelcom.net/pp/
Then this site has the spiritual angle and Biblical prophecy relationship to it which in a way is better than the above site to being open.
Of course there are other sites with different angles. You don't have to believe all these things but there are connections as the whole like the environment issue has elements for the world looking for some wise politician to sort the mess up, only for the one disguised in light to save the day. Some say religion is a conspiracy to imprison the mind from another truth. At the end of the day things will filter what is really going on over time.
at January 28, 2007 6:20 PM
Sorry did not realise it read so broken up forgot to check it out and read it again.
Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 28, 2007 6:24 PM
I attended this conference with a female friend, however we were not permitted to sit together. They had a seperate section for women at the back of the room. They also had seperate literature tables for men and women. I asked around the lit. tables if there were any qur'ans to be had, nope.
Most of the lit. appears to have been printed in the UK and interestingly, one of the booklets detailed the kalifah beaurocratic structure and strangely, the military arm was run by the dept. of Jihad. I found this confusing, why is the dept. of spiritural struggle in charge of the military? :)
These people are very dangerous, they're presentations and organisation is very slick, they are season professionals when it comes to airbrushing history and the 'propaganda' films are carefully designed to bring Muslims together, to give them a sense of empowerment.
We have been warned.
Posted by: darrinh at January 28, 2007 6:48 PM
It's because we tolerate less idiocy than the general public in Melbourne, Mother Idiocia..
Posted by: payingattention at January 28, 2007 9:57 PM
Mother Ecclesiastica,
"You don't seem to understand that here in Australia we still have the right to freedom of speech."
Freedom of speech should not include Enemies goading their troops to attack us on our soil.
The fact that I have to point this out is more disturbing than the fact that Enemies are doing this on our soil.
at January 28, 2007 10:18 PM
Thanks Mother Ecclesiastica,
If anybody is interested and is in the Sydney metro area, I will be screening "Islam: what the west needs to know" (with permission) in February. You can email aancci@gmail.com for more details.
regards
darrin.
at January 28, 2007 11:33 PM
Hizb have been very clever in Australia to keep themselves legal. They are running very close to the wind, though.
I am not in favour of a ban because i believe the group does itself and its cause more harm by holding these conferences. First Hilali, now Hizb - Australia is waking up. More Australian perspectives here
Posted by: pommygranate at January 29, 2007 5:22 AM
OFFICIALS are bracing themselves for a storm of public outrage over their controversial X-ray cameras scheme.
As part of the most shocking extension of Big Brother powers ever planned here, lenses in lampposts would snap “naked” pictures of passers-by to trap terror suspects.
The proposal is contained in leaked documents drawn up by the Home Office and presented to PM Tony Blair’s working group on Security, Crime and Justice.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007040610,00.html
Just an update this article from the Sun NEWSPAPER, just shows that the blind eye they give to immigration that course political tensions in society that will result in excuses to create a big brother society system. This may have many reasons for why this is happening to all sorts of views and people but it is no different to what the Bible has predicted a system where we submit to the mark of the beast a society restricted that if you don't follow you die, sounds Islamic aswell. There are some systems like this in the Middle east 'the do or die' system that Saddam used and Sharia law that Muslims so love to control the planet with. The big boy known as the Devil is streamlining it all he can move from one person to another beyond light speed because his realm is outside our time so it's quite easy with all his army to bring about his appearance. But this cannot be proven one can only see the outlines or shall I say underwear right now with this system in place.
The UK and America are experiments they will make chaos to bring a solution, don't just blame your own nations though all nations are puppets all systems good or bad can be seen as wrong depending which side you are on but both can be used to sculpture the future and the ones at the top only need public reaction like terrorism, riots and mass illegal immigration -lets say blind eye and give hand to people to create more rules to cattle up the human race like sheep.
Ask why the politicians are so weak and so PC? Because they are doing it on purpose, they may not know the overall agenda them selves but the dots point to draw a sinister plot. The Middle East does not need much change it is half way in that system but without the technology and voting systems in place. Now as people have said we are liberating Iraq but at the same time imprisoning our selves. A voting system is needed to elect and all agree on something mutually, be it Alien contact, the Anti-Christ, obsessed royal bloodlines or just worldly control. We all agree right now as a planet of people the Environment needs attention and this mass passion is exactly the thing needed for a supreme leader to gain a foothold.
You decide one view of many.
Posted by: jesusisthelamb at January 29, 2007 2:22 PM
Isn't Ashoura a bloody mess anyway ? It's amazing to see all that blood by self infliction. Yup, play with a sword, and die by the sword. I'd rather be a Jimmy Swaggert fan, at least I can laugh about it ? Some religions are too serious.
Posted by: Jeff at January 31, 2007 6:39 AM
Islam is not a religion...it is a thrill kill machine...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 31, 2007 8:41 AM
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