"We don't have to worry about 80-year-old ladies with bleach-blonde hair and southern accents."

Unless the government isn't telling us something: Maybe the AARP has formed a militant wing, and that's why Grandma keeps getting flagged for extra screening.

Posted by: MarisolJW at January 28, 2007 2:27 PM

This is quite ironic since the muslims are constantly profiling everybody in their countries who is not a muslim. Actually, the liberals are also the biggest supporters of racial profiling. That is, they are for profiling and penalizing all the Caucasian, straight, European-descended Christian men they can find for having the audacity to be born and thereby frustrate their little, weird, PC universe.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at January 28, 2007 2:29 PM

"This is not the country I came to know".

Your goddamm right about that Mr. Iman.

It is pathetic for an American citizen who has lived ALL his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will blown to bits by a self-detonating mohammodean at 30,000 feet. So up yours that you fret about being stopped for questioning. I've got bigger problems to worry about.

Posted by: William The Crusader at January 28, 2007 2:41 PM

OK, I've been watching for this. For Robert or Hugh: Is there any point in a letter writing campaign? Brigitte Gabriel says one letter is considered as though it is a thousand by politicians, given most peoples' inertia. Our activist group on "radical" Islam will be meeting for the first time in a week, using the "Obsession" checklist for activists as our guide. We can get people to write.
Also, is Dinesh D'Souza's book totally worthless? What about his take on the left's contribution to the present anti-American world climate? I bought it intrigued by the title and will return it if it's without merit.

Posted by: conservativegirl at January 28, 2007 2:41 PM

quote from Imam :

""It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

You know what Imam--I dont care that that its "not the country" you came to know. Because all the ARAB countries are very much like the ones we came to know thru their sponsership of global terrorism (Iran), and feeding Wahabism in islamic schools worldwide (Saudi Arabia), and so on. So why dont you go talk a long walk of a short cliff or go make a home in those countries.

I agree with William the Crusader above: UP YOURS IMAM and up Muhammed's too --Im sick of that that pedophile perverted false warmonger prophet and sick of your little backside of the desert cult. Burn in hell Muhammed you sick evil scumbag, for bringing this evil on the world.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at January 28, 2007 2:50 PM

"Feingold's last bill would have banned federal, state and local law enforcement officials from 'relying, to any degree, on race, ethnicity, national origin, or religion' during investigations."
-- from the article above

For a nation, it is suicidal. But for Feingold and Conyers, it is homicidal. They have no right to prate, and wrap themselves in some holier-than-thou mantle, and make it even more hellishly difficult for the security services attempting to monitor not a race but those who are slaves to an ideology, an ideology that preaches the duty of Jihad to spread Islam, by whatever means prove most effective, and among those means the "spreading of terror" -- mentioned, literally, in the canonical texts -- among the Infidels is one of them.

If Conyers and Feingold do not know this, if they are unwilling to read, to study, and to take seriously the texts and tenets and attitudes of Islam, but are willing, out of their ignorance and preening self-righteouesness (so that we who oppose such legislation are supposed to be apologetic and embarrassed about doing so, when such legislation is simply crazed, half-cocked, mad, bad, and dangerous in every way), they should be swamped with expressions of calm fury from their constituuents, and in the end, from everyone, for it is all of us, and not only their immediate constituents, who will pay the price, in more headaches all over the country for the security services, already pressed to the limit, and much more expense, and much more danger. And for what? To get on their high horses and prove some kind of diseased sympathy for those who make false claims, play the false victim, and do nothing whatever to show us, with an outpouring of fury directed at fellow Muslims who practice terrorism, with heartfelt rather than sly, carefully worded (with loopholes as big as the Ritz), and essentially taqiyaa-and-tu-quoque distancing, of the most minimal and begrudging and hedged=in kind, of the statements and behavior of Muslims around the world who do not wish, have shown that they do not wish, are taught not to wish (in Qur'an, in Hadith, in Sira) non-Muslims well.

This mixture as before cannot continue. They should be stripped of power, and sent home. Whatever their views on anything else, members of Congress should be made to regard this proposal as a Third Rail. That is what it should be for all of them. Try to make it that.

Posted by: Hugh at January 28, 2007 3:06 PM

WASHINGTON (Jan. 28) - The repercussions of an airline's decision to remove a group of imams from a commercial flight in Minneapolis could be heard in Congress this year, with civil rights groups pushing Democratic lawmakers to ban racial profiling.

Let's be very clear. There groups are anything but *civil rights* groups.

What they succeed in is to roll back all of OUR civil rights. WE will be subject to more searches due to this FEELGOOD policy. Which cost more money for more personnel too. The people conducting searches will not be motived as they should be because they will see it as "going through the motions".

Imagine you're panning for gold and you have to sift through all the soil near you - without being allowed to rely on experience and intuition.

Travel to Arab lands is an unimaginable nightmare so I frankly don't give a rat's a** how they *feel* over here. They have the 'umma' to go back to.

WHERE CAN WE GO?

I sure hope that Bush has one last stroke of the veto pen left in him. Preventing this claptrap legislation will strike a bigger blow against terror than all the troop surges in Iraq, Mr. President.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 28, 2007 3:14 PM

This is not the country I came to know.

With every Moslem immigrant, with every conversion to Islam, with every Mohammedan birth, the Consitution shrinks and our feedom declines.

Moslems are a buzz kill. They take and take and take. They consume without making contribution. They drag us down. There is no good in Moslems. It's all bad with them, for they are rotten to the core.

If you doubt me on this, read the Koran, the book that takes ugliness into the grotseque and goes downhill form there.

They love death so much, it'd be great to see 1.2 billion suicides today. Then homo sapiens could reinititate pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 28, 2007 3:16 PM

I'll make another prediction: Bush will not veto it if passed, and it has not passed yet.

The result will be either another catastrophe or gridlock at the airports where everyone is put under the magnifying glass.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 28, 2007 3:22 PM

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Posted by: storagemanager at January 28, 2007 3:23 PM

Muslims should definitely be singled out for attention. Call it profiling if you will. It's Muslims who demolished the WTC causing all these transportation hassles and additional security in the first place. Darn right they should be profiled since they are to blame and yes I do believe in this type of "collective punishment" and scrutiny. Muslims are the world's foremost practitioners of collective punishment.

Great example being how the Sunnis despise the Iraqi Shiites so much that they will set off explosives in Shiite gatherings, universities and markets that kill 30 at time and maim for life many others. A fine example of collective punishment.

Posted by: dennisw at January 28, 2007 3:29 PM

my email to Rep Conyers:

Mr Conyers,
Its come to my attention that your are championing a bill that would make it illegal for a law enforcement officer to give absolutely any credence to a persons ethnicity when confronting an individual. Its seems like a good step in helping transform our nation into a truly color blind society, but I believe in some situations a bill like this is a grave mistake.

I believe any decent minded person is against the idea of law enforcement unfairly targeting any person do only to his race or religion. And I strongly agree that a law enforcement officer should be strongly disciplined if found targeting certain individuals due to his personal dislike of another persons race or religion. However, to mandate law enforcement to completely disregard a persons background in all situations is, I believe, a very dangerous restriction, thus potentially allowing the unnecessary deaths of many Americans.

How many Hispanics are blowing themselves up to protest immigration laws ? How many black people are killing people who do not follow their interpretation of their religion ? How many white Europeans are staging massive rallies across Europe, which sometimes include violence, because Christianity is being questioned ?

Mr Conyers, I believe there is a very significant number of Islamic followers world wide, that believe it is their duty to , by any means necessary, help transform the countries of the "infidel" into a Muslim state under sharia law. What does most of the middle east, London, large regions of France, Spain, the Philippines, northern Africa, the United States, India, Russia and China all have in common ? They all have suffered from Islamic fundamental "martyrs" directing violence against innocent people to further the cause of their religious beliefs.

I do not believe all races and religions are equal in their danger to our national security. It has been shown a large number of Muslim followers are a danger to peaceful people everywhere. To not allow the people in charge of our national security the ability to target investigations, whether it be individuals or groups, on those shown responsible for violence on such a mass scale is dangerous. Its even more than dangerous, its suicidal.

Posted by: spk037 at January 28, 2007 3:30 PM

Any and all congressmen who vote to BAN racial profiling MUST BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE AT THE NEXT ELECTIONS.

All citizens need to monitor the results of this vote IF it goes to a vote.

No traitors in Congress will continue their political careers by putting US citizens at risk.

A question posed to the congressman via fax or e-mail "If you wish to ban racial profiling will you plan on flying the same planes as the rest of America."?

The answer will obviously be NO since they fly on special planes unlike the rest of America so THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO PUT OUR LIVES AT RISK IF THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO SHARE THE SAME RISKS AS US!!

Does that sound fair.....I think so.

Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at January 28, 2007 3:31 PM

As it is hard to prove, that a muslim to be checked isn't checked due to racial profiling, my proposal (slightly ironic):

Quota Checks, for every muslim, that is to be checked, an appropriate number of non-muslims has to be checked, e.g. 1 Mulims to 33 non-muslims, no matter, how long it takes, if there aren't enough non-muslims around at the airport, delay the flight, and wait, until enough non-muslims arrive.

Posted by: dadaism at January 28, 2007 3:33 PM

Feingold said. Although the vast majority of law enforcement officers don't engage in the practice, he added, some do and it must be addressed.

from the article
Let's just replace a few words here: "although the vast majority of American moslems don't engage in the practice [of terrorism}, he added, some do and it must be addressed."
Also, please note that "vast majority" is the flip side of "tiny minority". My life is in much greater dnger from the tiny minority of moslems than it is from the tiny minority of policemen. Or from all the policemen, vast majority and tiny minority combined.
Also, Mr Congressman, please explain why racial profiling is bad when applied to airline security, but good when applied to admissions to law schools and for promotions up the corporate ladder.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 28, 2007 3:34 PM

The best way to prevent Islamic Jihadist terrorism is to NOT consider Muslims as the most likely perpetrators? Next, let's fight the epidemic of bird flu by NOT profiling birds as the virus carrier; as there are many other animal species that could also carry the virus...???

Posted by: Xero G at January 28, 2007 3:39 PM

Actually, as long as the law specifies "racial profiling" there is no problem, since islam is not a race (I realize that's been said a thousand times or more on JW, but our ignorant leaders still don't understand.) Are Albanians, Somalis, Pakistanis, Moroccans, Indonesians, etc. all the same race? Hardly.
So the way is left open to profile on the basis of nationality -- anyone presenting a passport from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Somalia, Bosnia, or any of a few dozen other countries gets flagged for closer scrutiny.
Another way would be to profile on the basis of name -- anyone presenting credentials giving certain names, including but not limited to, Mohammed, Ali, X, Khan, would be given closer inspection.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 28, 2007 3:54 PM

I would suggest that every conservative person immediatley refuse to fly on business or for personal reasons. IN business terms a company is not allowed to make you do something which is dangerous. Will a company fire you, I doubt it and if they did, think of the damages that you could win for being forced to travel in an unsafe environment.

Posted by: Daffersd at January 28, 2007 3:58 PM

If profiling does not work, why is it done with great sucess in Isreal?

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at January 28, 2007 4:10 PM

PS : I forgot to mention, when flying going to or from Isreal.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at January 28, 2007 4:11 PM

"[Islamic condemnations of terrorism] carefully worded (with loopholes as big as the Ritz)..."

Or with loopholes big enough to fly two Boeing 767's through.

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 4:23 PM

"If profiling does not work, why is it done with great sucess in Isreal?"

Conyers, Feingold, Pelosi and others aren't disputing that profiling works -- only that it's ethically wrong.

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 4:24 PM

Saves lives, saves the quite unnecessary squandering of time and money by those whose job it is to protect us, but is "ethically wrong"? How about a little situational ethics here -- you know, to fit the situation?

Posted by: Hugh at January 28, 2007 4:27 PM

"This is not the country I came to know".

Your goddamm right about that Mr. Iman.

It is pathetic for an American citizen who has lived ALL his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will blown to bits by a self-detonating mohammodean at 30,000 feet. So up yours that you fret about being stopped for questioning. I've got bigger problems to worry about.
William The Crusader

Rock On, William, that is exactly my response! If I must remove my shoes in order to show that I have no plastic explosives in them, then why not temporarily detain Muslims for further questioning? We have evidence that Muslims "love Death more than life,";
THAT should be all the probable cause needed in every case!

Promote and Pass a law for a damn change in favor of all Americans, not just the singular few it would benefit!!

Posted by: localmalcontent at January 28, 2007 4:32 PM

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Posted by: Malinois at January 28, 2007 4:36 PM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk.

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who was born in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be murdered by some mucking fuslim who will blast the plane out of the sky," sez Pelayo

Mr Elturk can kiss my fundament.

Posted by: Pelayo at January 28, 2007 4:37 PM

Hugh, I didn't say I agreed that profiling is ethically wrong -- just that this is the view of Conyers, et al. Good intentions --> Hell.

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 4:41 PM

Letter writing is an absolute necessity. That along with spreading the word are the only weapons we have against it. I would add that letters to the airlines would not hurt. Advise them that your right to fly safely is under threat and their help would be appreciated so you can continue to fly with them. Ask them to be vocal as well. Writing to Conyers directly can't hurt anything but is a losing cause. Keep in mind that the man is a United States Congressman and he has his website available in Arabic...I mean, enough said.

Posted by: TK at January 28, 2007 4:41 PM

The other benefit of bombing Iran’s nuclear program tomorrow is that Ahmedinejad would likely activate Hezbollah sleeper cells in response, preventing any dumb laws like this from ever being considered again.

Posted by: pez at January 28, 2007 4:45 PM

For anyone interested in my analysis of the inextricable racial element in any rational and optimally effective methodology of Muslim profiling we could construct -- an analysis which helps to reveal the fastidious avoidance of that element to be ultimately counter-productive (even though temporarily it might appease the hypersensitively anti-racist ideologues) --, see:

http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2006/07/racial-profiling-and-problem-of-islam.html

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 4:46 PM

Perhaps it's time to start another public-interest group issuing an annual scorecard of how closely elected officials' votes agreed with the group's interests, ala the ADA, ACA, AARP, and various feminist, veteran, and labor groups. Tentative title of the group: the AAJT - Americans Against Jihadist Terrorism. Elected officials would be scored on whether their votes advanced or impeded the Islamic conquest.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 28, 2007 4:56 PM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

A note to El Turk: "We don't need walls to keep our people in". There ya go.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 28, 2007 5:00 PM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

One more note to El Turk: If that is the worst you have to fear - you're very fortunate. WE have to fear being blown to bits by some islamomaniac who has arrived on our shores due to the largesse of our dhimmi guvments. WE have to fear being assaulted and/or killed in any lands where there are lawless moslem areas.. now spreading even to Europe.

So STOP WHINING - consider yourself lucky. Your situation is improving daily as ours gets increasingly worse.

Thank you moFoes worldwide.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 28, 2007 5:02 PM

I apologise for what I'm about to say.

The best thing that can happen to the U.S.A. is for some jihadis to hi-jack, blow up, or crash some more planes and kill thousands of more innocent citizens. Or maybe set-off a chemical, biological, or nuclear bomb killing tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens. I strongly believe this is the minimum that it is going to take to wake-up the stupid/ignorant politians that we elected to run our country. It is sad this many more will have to die.

Posted by: NC_patriot at January 28, 2007 5:11 PM

NC_Patriot.....I lost sleep over those thoughts as well. If you are having too many rational thoughts and paying attention, you know it is when and not if. That being the case, your thoughts stray to...why not sooner so we have a prayer of lessening the catastrophic nature of the battle to come. You jerk away from this line of thought as it is hard to accept and contemplate. I think these hard thoughts are why so many choose to bury their heads and pretend nothing is happening.

Posted by: TK at January 28, 2007 5:21 PM

Sen. Feingold says that he will work to "ensure that no one is judged by how they look or where they worship." Be prepared, American flying public, for dozens of Muslims at airports, women in burqas and men in long robes and skull caps. Some of these Muslims, testing their newly bestowed 'civil rights' will be flying, some will be taxi-cab drivers taking a break, and some will be local Muslims. They will come together in the busiest parts of airports to perform very public prayers. They will do this again and again, deliberately getting in passengers' way, chanting very loud prayers, taunting security personnel to stop them. Look for more "flying while Muslim" lawsuits against airports and airlines. The Conyers/Feingold laws will be a goldmine for Muslims; they will send part of their settlement money back to the ME for more bombs...and some of the money will stay in the USA, for training and weapons to be used locally. A sweet, sweet deal..can life get any better for the members of the ROP, American style??

Posted by: maryrose at January 28, 2007 5:27 PM

To understand Conyers' and Feingold's insanity read this article.

Paradise Lost; Why the Left Loves Muhammad

at

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/paradise_lost_why_the_left_lov.html

Posted by: WillPower at January 28, 2007 5:28 PM

The time to clean out Washington is LONG overdue.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 5:31 PM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

----

Mr. El Turk: Please pass that information on to Muslims. THEY are the ones who brought us to this point. Allah's servants are the ones who are making you go through a few hoops. Blame them. (Or thank them, it's up to you.)

Since you're from Lebanon it's always possible you're a Christian.
If you're a Christian: you should be grateful that our government is doing its best to save you from the type of violence you would face in the Middle East.
If you're a Muslim: if you and your kind would be loyal enough to "the country you came to know" to report people who are up to no good in your local mosque, we would still have two towers standing in Manhattan and many thousands of people from many countries would still be walking on this earth. So thank the Muslims for your trouble. DON"T BLAME THE US!!!

If you don't like "the country you came to know" then you are welcome to leave. Canada is open. So is Mexico. You can drive to either one. If you want to return to Lebanon and don't want to be inconvenienced or endure funny looks while waiting for a plane then take a boat.

Posted by: PMK at January 28, 2007 5:34 PM

"We don't have to worry about 80-year-old ladies with bleach-blonde hair and southern accents."

So how come they are the ones frequently subjected to additional searches, in order to avoid all charges of racial profiling?

Posted by: PMK at January 28, 2007 5:36 PM

WillPower, thanks for that link above.

In that essay linked, there is a quote from Jean-Jaques Rousseau that disabuses me of the conception I had been working with heretofore -- to wit, that PC Multiculturalism dates back approximately 60 years in its relatively crystallized form, while prior to that it only existed in nebulous form. For, in that quote from Rousseau's The Social Contract (1762), we see in vividly and nauseatingly familiar terms one of the cornerstones of our current PC Multiculturalism under whose thrall our efforts to analyze and act against Islam continue to be thwarted:

[When Christianity gained power with the conversion of Emperor Constantine in the 4th century A.D.] the humble Christians changed their language, and soon this so-called kingdom of the other world turned, under a visible leader, into the most violent of earthly despotisms.

...Mahomet held very sane views, and linked his political system well together; and, as long as the form of his government continued under the caliphs who succeeded him, that government was indeed one, and so far good."

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 5:48 PM

Some of the dimwits in Washington can't seem to get their heads around the fact that it is not RACIAL profiling that we are doing, it is terrorist profiling. Not race! The shoe bomber was not an arab.

For crying out loud. Seems to me that most of our puppeticians are complete idiots.

Having a degree doesn't prove that you have common sense. Being rich certainly does not prove that you are are moral. Some of the folks I have known in life that would be considered successful by the world's standards were the most dysfunctional people I had ever spent time with.

What we need are men and women in Washington who love this country, care about the people of this country and who are willing to work for the ordinary joes in this country and not big business.

Unfortunately, as long as we have a system that only puts powerful, wealthy idiots up for election, we will fail to have the kind of leadership that our country began with.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 5:49 PM

"When Christianity gained power with the conversion of Emperor Constantine in the 4th century A.D.] the humble Christians changed their language, and soon this so-called kingdom of the other world turned, under a visible leader, into the most violent of earthly despotisms."

Remote Control - Christianity LOST power with the so-called 'conversion' of Constantine. The saddest day for Christianity was when the CHURCH was hijacked by a politician.

That is when the church began to become fat, soft, rich and ineffective.

The Church has always been its strongest when under persecution. When it is relying on Christ for its strength and not on political favours.

Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 5:53 PM

So how come they are the ones frequently subjected to additional searches, in order to avoid all charges of racial profiling?

Posted by: PMK

PCness

Posted by: The Goobs at January 28, 2007 5:55 PM

It looks as if this isn't covered anywhere. UK mullahs with their feet in their mouths.

http://www.sharebig.com/share.php?id=s7hrwssqswKCQYgT

a 40 min movie in either avi or mp4 format in which an undercover reporter shows them in their REAL form

Posted by: Rowane at January 28, 2007 6:16 PM

oops wrong place

Posted by: Rowane at January 28, 2007 6:17 PM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

Yes, that all changed because of 911 and Jihad. The truth is that before 911 everyone got on and off planes like getting in and out of a car. There was very little thought given to Muslims on planes. That has all changed. It is pathetic that Elturk doesn't condemn that essential Islamic crime against us all in his denial of reality, this claim that Muslims are victims.

In any case, worse than 911 is coming and it will produce grim results for Muslims after we absorb the attack. We all really know that a show-down is coming because Muslims are in denial about why people now fear the deception and the violence of so many Muslims, just as they once gave little thought to Muslims before 911.

Posted by: Frank at January 28, 2007 6:23 PM

Let us all write letters to Congress members against it!!! I don't know if they will tear mine when they saw a stamp from Canada, but I will do it anyway.

Posted by: calatrava at January 28, 2007 6:28 PM

Peter Gadiel has been a courageous and tireless advocate for sensible border enforcement and immigration laws since the loss of his son on 9/11.

http://www.911fsa.org/

Posted by: Dana at January 28, 2007 6:35 PM

Most Reps are online, if you are one of their constituents you can usually get on their weekly email list. There is usually a link to respond. Tell them you think profiling is fine, we are all being searched so let’s go a step further with security. After all the FBI has profiled serial killers for years. In any event I think this has a snowballs chance in you know where in passing the House, Senate, and Pres. It will expose those who would turn their backs on us though. We should all demand to be profiled, every one of us will be profiled so therefore no discrimination. What is the big deal, what are they afraid of?

Posted by: tgusa at January 28, 2007 6:41 PM

I note the some comments on how Israel handles this issue. Does anyone have information on how other countries handle this? Outside USA I have not heard of this as an issue.

Thanks

Posted by: payingattention at January 28, 2007 6:52 PM

VERY OT:
I just got this email.

It is a call for help.
Perhaps some of the 'bloggers out there can post this also, as well as us non-'bloggers spreading it around by email.
Thanks, guys!
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Posted by: Gramfan at January 28, 2007 6:53 PM

I wouldn't take it so bad, as long as the left is in existence. As you see, China is a Republic, they're too conservative to even think of any liberal agenda to reach the floor for consideration. But if we should allow a few liberal loop-holes to exist, then when the tragity hits, we can vote -em all back into the closets again !

I guess the only safe flights will be to China's Winter Olympics ? God knows, they'll jail you for even acting suspicious like a muslim !

Posted by: Jeff at January 28, 2007 6:56 PM

Goobs,

"The Church has always been its strongest when under persecution."

Following your logic, then I guess you will actually look forward to Islam taking over the West, so that they can start persecuting the Church in earnest and make it "strongest"...

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 7:30 PM

Fight ignorance:
1) Study the Quran
2) Learn about the life and example of Muhammed
3) Buy a handgun a learn how to use it.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at January 28, 2007 7:36 PM

With Dhimmi's running Congress now, we're sure to win this war on terrorism (snicker).

Posted by: champ at January 28, 2007 7:44 PM

Glenn Beck dared to expose a few of the horrible truths about Islam in a documentary, that even pulled punches (he did not expose relationships between passages and ideas in the Qur'an, Hadith and Sira the the motivations of Muslim terrorists). But that was enough. He insulted the religion and deserves a soft jihad from the Islamic collective aiming at alienation, silence, censorship. Apologies won't matter. He has showed disrespect to the Prophet; remose will not suffice; no kind words will be enough. He is an enemy, a dangerous Infidel. And he is now feeling heat.

Posted by: JTF at January 28, 2007 7:46 PM

If this is how things are going to be, and the government is going to play the spineless dhimmi, then it will ultimately be up the the citizens of this nation to protect themselves at all costs. Sad, but true. Sad, but necessary.

Posted by: DCWatson at January 28, 2007 7:57 PM

Unfortunately, as long as we have a system that only puts powerful, wealthy idiots up for election, we will fail to have the kind of leadership that our country began with.
Posted by: The Goob

yep. Money changes everything.

The moslem who's complaining about being "profiled" is - in typical moFoe fashion - laying the blame on the victims.

What I would really like to hear explained to me from more than just one moslem "spokesman" but from as many of them as possible AND IN THEIR OWN WORDS is..

WHY have you chosen to come to Western Country X Y or Z? What is it that drew you to come here? do you enjoy life here among the "kaffirs" or whatever you call us?

And if you say you are "born here" did not your forebears "immigrate" from "the umma" to country X Y or Z that you now find yourself in?

so please answer the following: What keeps you from returning back to the "Dar-al-islam" You know.. the House of submission that you all desire so much...

As for the liberals who enable this immigration.. can YOU venture to speak for the moslems and explain this to us who are still skeptical?

Here's your chance to convince the unbelievers.

Jihadwatchers are a tough but by and large very fair-minded lot. If you can make it here... Your argument can carry water anywhere.

So have a go.. moslems.. lieberals..

Enquiring minds want to know. We want to know why we are being asked to compromise our lifestyle, our safety and comfort on behalf of people who proclaim their desire to konvert, ensalev or kill us.

So forgive us for asking some tough questions. our lives happen to be at stake. so are yours, dear lieberals. You just don't know it yet.

Posted by: MeanieMo at January 28, 2007 7:59 PM

Alas...one really has to fight getting to the point of saying we Americans have really become our own worst enemy and when something does happen it must be said, we asked for it. We seem to inssist on bringing about our own downfall ( I guess I could include Europe along with that) I believe mass insanity has taken hold of a percentage of the population,deception...for spiritual reasons, but I won't waste my breath going into that. Many won't realize what they had until it is gone.

Posted by: TheRegulator at January 28, 2007 8:19 PM

Feingold & Conyers Math:

The value of one man, motivated to achieve religiously inspired and religiously sanctioned martyrdom from killing 100 infidels, outweighs the value of the 100 innocent infidels he intends to murder.

Posted by: Malinois at January 28, 2007 9:05 PM

Eventually there will be a critical mass moment at airports. It will be when airlines begin to lose money because the airports will be so clogged with muslims.

I really want the bleach blond grandmother to be searched each and every time. The reason being that the more they are inconvenienced, the more money the airlines will be missing.

It will get to the point where everyone will have a body cavity search. They will probably find some cell phones stuck in some Muslim's hiney.

The airlines will be pressing for more however that means that you will have to get to the airport at least 2hrs earlier. The critical mass moment will arrive.

The great debate will come with the traveling public. They will realize that they have to be at the airport for a body search two hours before the leave. They will figure it out. The Dhimmicrats won't have a chance.

Posted by: credit man at January 28, 2007 9:21 PM

Feingold & Conyers Math:

The value of one man, motivated to achieve religiously inspired and religiously sanctioned martyrdom from killing 100 infidels, outweighs the value of the 100 innocent infidels he intends to murder.

posted by Malinois

More like Stalin math.

Posted by: wrathofasma at January 28, 2007 10:12 PM

But why do the American voters seem to be supporting this c**p?? Please enlighten me...

Posted by: Lili at January 28, 2007 10:51 PM

"why do the American voters seem to be supporting this c**p?? Please enlighten me."

A little cultural sea change happened on the way to the 21st century, called PC Multiculturalism.

Posted by: remote_control at January 28, 2007 11:49 PM

There is an old saying that comes to mind..."if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is proably a duck". I travelled once to a funeral from Cairo to California. I didn't take any luggage (other then a carry on)as my wife was meeting me there and was bringing my other clothes. I was stopped and questioned at London, at Minniapolis and at SFO... what is the big deal? They ask you a few questions... no biggie! It is much better safe then sorry.

I remember after 9/11, Senators Fienstein, Boxer and Rep. Polosi were spear heading the charge to STOP the student visa program from many middle eastern countries. Moreover, they were blasting the administration for not keeping a closer eye on Arabs (and others). Those who do not remeber history are doomed to repeat it.

Posted by: gnegypt at January 29, 2007 3:04 AM

They will never succeed with this attempt.

Posted by: Arnie at January 29, 2007 3:32 AM

"They will never succeed with this attempt."

Yes they will, The Dhimmicrats have the votes now , thanks to the uninformed voters.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 29, 2007 6:20 AM

I really do not understand your American politicians.
The Muslims came to your land , killed 3000 of your men , with finance from Imams who are based in USA,
threaten to kill americans everywhere and anywhere in the world, have bombed USA embassies, dream of bombing the White house .
And then after all this,they complain about racial profiling as if it is your fault, use your human rights nature to turn the blame on you.
and then your politicians wanna ban racial profiling????????

What are your politicians hoping for ???????
Are they waiting for nuclear Sept 9/11 ????????
Will they wake up then and realise that this enemy is not like the Russians who were a lot more civilised and atleast respected other religions atleast and theri goal was just to become a superpower, not to kill all non-russians unlike the agenda of Islamic militants which is to kill kill and keep killing..

Posted by: Rajesh_singh at January 29, 2007 7:18 AM

"It is pathetic for an American citizen who has spent more than half his life in this country to have to fly fearing that I will be stopped and interrogated," said Elturk, 52, who was born in Lebanon. "This is not the country I came to know."

Has Eltruk ever asked himself questions like

If out of last 52 years, he was never harrased then why is he bieng harrased now.
Did the authorities all of a sudden one day wake up and feel that Mulims should be harrased or was it becasue of deeds of your own brethern.

Instead of complainnig that to not racially profile, Would it not be better to convince your jihadis to stop this madness and your problems will be solved by default.
Isnt your situation today more because of deeds of your own kind(Islam). Have you ever complained to them?
Obviously not becasue they will behead you if you complain. And you know this is true because you know your religion well? Dont you.???

And last but not least . For your own safety as well as safety of other passengers , if you do have to go through some security checks ,I dont see any harm in it. Afterall if your are good and have nothnig to fear,then what is the harm in co-operating for safety of everyone.

And before you say that I do not have experience of how it feels , let me tell you that because the average American does not know the differnce between a Muslim name and Hindu name,even I have been subjected to your so called security interrrogation. I have never complained eventhough I could have complained,becasue I had to go through asll this trouble for no fault of mine or my religion(Hinduism).
The checks are for our own security and there is nothing wrong in it.
Be co-operative.

Posted by: Rajesh_singh at January 29, 2007 7:32 AM

Oh dear , some contributors so far have forgotten
something crucial here...this is NOT racial profiling , Islam is NOT a race!
Anyway those travelling surely have the right to not want to travel with muslims...tell the bloody
airlines , do something about it!

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at January 29, 2007 7:48 AM

Makes sense, dems make a big issue of screening inanimate objects, not look at the person, sort of like blaming the gun, not the depraved killer, after all don't want to alienate the criminal class voters, now do we?

Posted by: Catawhumpus at January 29, 2007 9:41 AM

Why do they call it racial profiling? Islam is not a race, it is an ideology disguised as a religion. Maybe they should call it islamo-fascist profiling...

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at January 29, 2007 10:39 AM

Unless there are white people involved. The profiling whites experience is going to remain in place.

There is a saying "people get the type of government they deserve." But--

Does ANYONE deserve a government THIS stupid, however??? (no).

It seems to me that the only reason anyone would ever FEAR being profiled is that they would have something to hide!

It would also seem to me Nancy Pelosi is a terrorist's best friend in the United States! The lady is practically handing these killer-crazies jetliners to hijack and/or blow up!!!

Would it be possible to set up "Executive Hijackers' Lounges" in airports all across the USA?? They could even be named after their godmother--"The Nancy Pelosi Hijackers' Lounges."

Posted by: pythagoras at January 29, 2007 1:14 PM

The idiotic premise of banning "racial" profiling is just that, idiotic. Profiling is engaged in certain areas because it works. It does not however, fit into our current self-depricating, PC, capitulative society.

The physical ramifications, including, but not limited to; the inexorable loss of innocent human lives is a given as a by-product of passing this sort of legislation.

More prevalent and detrimental to our society will be the litigious repercussions, now that the flood gates have been opened. This will take Islamic extraction of the jizya to a new level. If this legislation passes, you will soon after witness a glut of lawsuits with every non-white Tom, Dick and Harry looking to make a buck. Not just Islamists, but every minority.

One of the worst, in a world of bad ideas this will be. In the future, we should adopt anti-Islamic legislation this way: Whatever the Imam wants and agrees with, do the opposite.

Those non-Islamists who regard the humiliation of the Islamist being stopped and "interrogated" as greatly outweighing our basic right to survival should be dealt with accordingly.

I think Hugh said it best in this thread: "They should be stripped of power, and sent home."

Indeed.

Posted by: awake at January 29, 2007 2:03 PM

Just as the FBI develops personality profiles of serial killers and pedophile abductors I would suggest that our nation get past this 'racial profiling' distraction and look at the numbers.

We need the FBI to do a profile of the most likely statistical suspects. The answer would be most likely traits:

a) Males, b) 19 to 40, c) born in a middle eastern country or the son of immigrants from a middle eastern country, d) Arabic or middle eastern name and a e) devout muslim described as f) 'a good boy' by members of his previous community.

This profile would be backed up by the statistics. Use the statistics to construct the profile. Use the actual facts to figure out how and where to apply our limited anti-terrorist efforts. Use the 90/10% approach and declare openly how we arrived at the profile.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 29, 2007 2:20 PM

awake: Believe me, racial profiling "works" for the PC crowd as long as it is practiced on caucasian people!

The magnitude of hypocrisy among the PCers is truly staggering, sad, and appalling.

They must be doing psychic channeling through George Orwell's ghost or something.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 29, 2007 2:36 PM

Dear All,

I've emailed my Representative as well as Senator Feingold and Rep. Conyers with variants of this letter:

Dear Rep. Conyers,

I've been reading about potential legislation that may come from you and Senator Feingold in the Judiciary committee which would restrict or outlaw security profiles based on race. That's fine, but this is not the problem we need to address. The problem is Islam. Islam is not a race, it's a belief system. It's more than a religion, it's a supremacist ideology which believes it must dominate all other political, religious, and legal systems. Its believers aren't a single race at all. Profiling based on racial attributes won't protect us from another terrorist attack. It’s the ideology driving these attacks.

I do think that we need to profile to get the most efficient use of our limited security resources. May I suggest using the facts rather than a politically correct filter to counter the terrorist threat?

Just as the FBI develops personality profiles of serial killers and pedophile abductors I would suggest that our nation get past this 'racial profiling' distraction and look at the numbers.

We need the FBI to do a profile of the most likely statistical suspects. The answer would be most likely traits:

a) Males, b) 19 to 40, c) born in a middle eastern country or the son of immigrants from a middle eastern country, d) Arabic or middle eastern name and a e) devout Muslim described as f) 'a good boy' by members of his previous community.

This profile would be backed up by the statistics, but I think it would be most important to do the analysis. Use the statistics to construct the profile. Use the actual facts to figure out how and where to apply our limited anti-terrorist efforts. Use the 90/10% approach and declare openly how we arrived at the profile.

Thank you,
My Name.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 29, 2007 2:48 PM