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Fjordman sends us this item, along with this comment: "These Taliban people must suffer from Islamophobia or something, since they believe there are numerous calls for violent Jihad in the Koran."
Indeed. Note Baitullah Mehsud's words: "Then we will attack them in the US and Britain until they either accept Islam or agree to pay jazia (a tax in Islam for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state)."
But try asking a self-proclaimed moderate leader in America about whether or not the Qur'an really calls on Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and subjugate them, imposing a tax upon them. He will either not give you a straight answer or call you an "Islamophobe," or both.
And then there will be the inevitable charges that by calling attention to this jihadist use of the Qur'an, I am helping those jihadists instead of the moderates I should be helping. Fine: I invite any moderate to explain what he or she would say to Baitullah Mehsud to try to convince him that the Qur'an does not actually counsel war, and to alert him to the existence of a mainstream Islamic tradition that teaches peaceful coexistence with nonbelievers as equals on an indefinite basis.
"Pakistan Taleban vow more violence," from the BBC:
Pro-Taleban militants have been strengthening their hold in Pakistan's tribal areas following controversial peace deals with the authorities. Haroon Rashid of the BBC's Urdu service is one of the few reporters working for a Western media organisation with access to the area.[...]
After visiting the site of the bombing, we were done with the basic purpose of the trip. I asked the militants if I could see their leader, Baitullah Mehsud.
[...]
Baitullah's private army along with other militant groups have imposed a strict Islamic code in North and parts of South Waziristan.
They run a parallel government here. Music and videos are banned while militants claim people approach them for settlement of their disputes.
With a black-dyed beard, 34-year-old Baitullah greeted us in a big room with several of his armed men beside him. We sat on a new colourful quilt spread on the ground.
Baitullah seemed a man with only jihad (holy war) on his mind. During the interview he quoted several verses from the Koran to defend his stance that foreign forces must be evicted from Islamic countries.
"Allah on 480 occasions in the Holy Koran extols Muslims to wage jihad. We only fulfil God's orders. Only jihad can bring peace to the world," he says.
The militant leader on several occasions in the past had openly admitted crossing over into Afghanistan to fight foreign troops.
"We will continue our struggle until foreign troops are thrown out. Then we will attack them in the US and Britain until they either accept Islam or agree to pay jazia (a tax in Islam for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state)."
Suicide bombers
Baitullah predicted an even bloodier year for foreign forces in Afghanistan.
"The mujahideen will carry out even more severe attacks. If they [the West] have air power we have fidayeen [suicide bombers]... They will leave dishonoured."
[...]
Before we left, Baitullah gave us perfume and a book in Urdu on 'Why Jihad is a must'. On our way back, we saw newly built white graves on the roadside.
Posted by Robert at January 29, 2007 9:29 AM
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Who are we to tell the world's muslims that they don't understand their own religion? That it's actually a religion of peace, and it doesn't require jihad? American politicians must stop lying and bullying muslims, and stop trying to twist their religion into something it's not.
Posted by: Menetheos
at January 29, 2007 9:44 AM
What is this "cult" they speak of fighting with yesterday? Isn't the whole point that we can't tell one from another?
Posted by: Catawhumpus
at January 29, 2007 9:49 AM
Aren't we already paying the jizya?
Posted by: Jan Sobieski
at January 29, 2007 10:07 AM
Off topic:
Campaign by American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee to silence free speech
Posted by: ummahnewslinks
at January 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Aren't we already paying the jizya?
Posted by: Jan Sobieski at January 29, 2007 10:07 AM
More than that.
Isn't it time to claim restitution from the Muslims?
Posted by: Arnie
at January 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Why worry, it's only 480 exhortations to kill and maim? And it's all done in good faith to save us infidels from hell.
Posted by: TheOmegaMan
at January 29, 2007 10:13 AM
I hope everyone is doing what they can to get the word out. We have no excuses anymore and we have a responsibility since it's happening again on our watch.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at January 29, 2007 10:44 AM
"If they [the West] have air power, we have fidayeen [suicide bombers]..."
The West's ignorance is their power.
The West's 'political correctness' is their shield.
If and when the West overcomes it's internal enemies, it will overcome its mortal enemies.
Posted by: Malinois
at January 29, 2007 10:44 AM
Here another 480 reasons to deport muslims and outlaw the koran in the western world.
Posted by: Hungarian Crusader
at January 29, 2007 10:51 AM
"Only jihad can bring peace to the world,"
All they are saying is give peace a chance.
A chance to wipe us all out.
at January 29, 2007 10:52 AM
zonie kafir --
Don't get angry at Bush, he is only the messenger.
You stated that you are "offended when Bush tells Muslims what their religion means. How does he know."
I think Muslims are the ones who have told the WORLD what their religion means by their OWN evil actions and by what's written in their own Qur'an. Don't blame Bush, he is only stating the obvious.
Why not focus on cleaning up your own religion and then throw that holy-book known as the Qur'an in the dumpster -- where it belongs.
The burden of proof is on Muslims -- not Bush.
Posted by: champ
at January 29, 2007 12:33 PM
Ya know, according to the 28 JAN 07 radio show, sponsored by the Islamic Society of Tampa, it isn't the Jihadi causing the mis-understanding, it is-and I nearly choked when I heard this-it isn't the practitioners of the religion but it is the MEDIA. Yep, ABCpbuh,CBSpbuh, BBCpbuh, NBCpbuh, FauXpbuh, CNNpbuh et al. Oh, and the IST is still trying to convince the immigrant Muslim that they can secure interest-free home loans...ROFL... wanna by a bridge? Recipe for ice? Seashore property in Yuma? ROFL!
Posted by: SickBoy
at January 29, 2007 1:10 PM
"Only jihad can bring peace to the world,"
He's right.
Only when the West decides to launch a jihad against the forces of barbarity and wipe them from the face of the earth (as we did smallpox - another lifeform that was a bane on all humanity) will peace come to the world.
Let's give jihad a new meaning so that all militant Muslims will quake in their boots at the sound of it.
"The jihadists are coming, the jihadists are coming!!"
at January 29, 2007 2:32 PM
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If you had to compare one religion as the most anti-of another religion then Christianity and Islam do just that and they are not the same God's. We can all believe in God but which wise words do you choose from which source? The one that has more love for the creation of man suppose.
Jesus has been turned upside down, he was never put on the cross and he will help kill the JEWS and Christians at the end of the age.
Jesus from the Bible warned of this people coming in name to deceive
How many times does Allah love? Why does 99 of his names never mention love? How many times do Jesus express love for people and mankind and his soul purpose was for mankind? Fact or fiction it puts some religions to shame.
7171177 visitors so far nice number sequence
at January 29, 2007 2:42 PM
All I have to do is replay the wonderful Islamic speech and praises when they chop off the head of Danny Peril, there will never be any forgiveness for Islam as far as I'm concerned !
Posted by: Jeff
at January 29, 2007 2:55 PM
A Plague_ posted: I hope everyone is doing what they can to get the word out. We have no excuses anymore and we have a responsibility since it's happening again on our watch.
I do not let any opportunity go by to bring up this horrible subject. And if the opportunity does not arise, make one.
at January 29, 2007 5:30 PM
To paraphrase Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner: "I am not a muslim, I am a free man/woman"
Posted by: Voltaire
at January 29, 2007 5:43 PM
Oh, I get it; if you study it, you're not muslim, only the idiots that blow themselves up are muslim. Show me where the Lord Allah has told you to destory other people's countries, and I'll call him a foolish GOD! And the only foolish GOD I know is SATAN !
Posted by: Jeff
at January 29, 2007 6:49 PM
"Before we left, Baitullah gave us perfume and a book in Urdu on 'Why Jihad is a must'. On our way back, we saw newly built white graves on the roadside."
It would be interesting if someone get a hold of this book, have it translated and make it available.
Posted by: calatrava
at January 29, 2007 9:08 PM
Always true...
Islam says from hours 6 to 10,
you must be killing people again.
Here's Omar, he came from afar!
just to kill some people again.
And uncle Ali, from bombing Bali!
loves to kill people again.
And Osama Bin Laden, scraggy and sodden!
fatwa'd to kill people again !
gotta kill,gotta kill,
gotta kill,gotta kill,
That's what Islam says,
from hours 6 to 10 !
at January 29, 2007 9:53 PM
Did you hear that Osama bin laden is starting his own children's television program?
It's called, "Taliban-Tubbies", with Tinky-Stinky, Whipsy, LALALALALA-Laa-Laa and Po-gram !
"Over the hill they come and run.
Killing Infidels is so much fun!"
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"Time for Jihad! Time for Jihad!"
at January 29, 2007 9:59 PM
But try asking a self-proclaimed moderate leader in America about whether or not the Qur'an really calls on Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and subjugate them, imposing a tax upon them. He will either not give you a straight answer or call you an "Islamophobe," or both.
Maybe we need to tell our fellow AMERICANS [Americani] that the pisslamos want to collect taxes from us!!!!
Maybe THAT'll get the rest of us properly RILED UP!!!
I don't care WHAT it takes. I want the whole of America and Europe, Autralia and New Zealand.. India and the REST of the FREE WORLD to STAND UNITED AGAINST this evil PIGSLAM!!!!!!!!!
Everybody now:
AF-FAN-CULO islam!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MeanieMo
at January 30, 2007 12:42 AM
If and when the West overcomes it's internal enemies, it will overcome its mortal enemies.
Posted by: Malinois
Quite handily at that.. all it takes is our Free Will and our iron RESOLVE!!!!
We can do this in weeks once we FREE OUR MINDS!!!!
Posted by: MeanieMo
at January 30, 2007 12:52 AM
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