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February 5, 2007

Ovation for fiery Mahathir's claim West worse than al-Qaeda

Mahathir believes the Jews rule the world by proxy, but evidently they aren't powerful enough to silence him. From the Sydney Morning Herald, with thanks to Mackie:

KUALA LUMPUR: About 2000 activists applauded as the leaders of the United States, Britain and Australia were branded "fascist war criminals" at a conference in Malaysia featuring gruesome exhibits of their alleged crimes.

The former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad hosted the conference and won applause yesterday for calling for the leaders to be tried by an unofficial tribunal for war crimes in Iraq. He said the war had caused more terror than al-Qaeda.

"We should not hang Blair if the tribunal finds him guilty, but he should always carry the label 'War Criminal, Killer of Children, Liar'," said Dr Mahathir in a speech illustrated by pictures of wounded children, deformed babies and tortured men.

"And so should Bush and the pocket Bush of the Bushland of Australia," he said, referring to the Prime Minister, John Howard.

Dr Mahathir, whose own government was accused of human rights abuses bordering on torture, has been leading a campaign to highlight what he calls the human rights abuses and hypocrisy of US-led forces fighting for democracy in the Middle East.

Posted by Robert at February 5, 2007 10:45 AM
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I hope the Adaministration considers this type of talk when foreign aide time rolls around. Not to mention the next typhoon, Tsunami or earthquake hits Malysia.

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:03 AM

Well, dang it! He's right!

Everybody on this board knows this!

How have they betrayed We, The People, let me count the ways...."

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:09 AM

When will people realize that we are living an era that is much worse than the pre-hitler years?
Only this time, the Islamo nazis have over a billion people willing to die for their fallacious cause.

Posted by: David Masada [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:21 AM

The real war criminal is Muhammad. He inspires the bestial Muslim mass murderers such as the Sunni terrorists of Iraq slaughtering Shiite civilians 30-100 at a clip. Muhammad inspires Muslims loonies and so called moderate leaders like this filthy ex-prime minister Mahathir Muhammad. The real criminals and enemies of mankind are those emulate the life of this false prophet as their religion exhorts them.

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:21 AM

Masada-

When will people realize that we are living an era that is much worse than the pre-hitler years?

Hitler admired the Muhammadan way and the Muslims still admire him. Hitler blew it by not establishing a cult or religion the way Muhammad did. Otherwise the Nazis might have succeeded

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:24 AM

Normally, I wouldn't pay any attention to what the man says - but this time he has quite a lot of local support including the current administration.

To make matters even worse, this does not help in any way with the WOT, it just fuels it.

I live in Malaysia not too far from where the event is being held and will be updating during the event.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

Posted by: LHM [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 11:37 AM

Isn't that the same guy that proposed the new redesign for the World Trade Center site. I think he proposed that the twin towers be replaced by two stone pillars. vistors would have to follow a figure 8 course around the pillars. The site would be interactive, as the visitors would be encouraged to express themselves by throwing small offerings at the pillars. Officals expect that the loose change thrown would more than cover the annual operating expenses.

It was a popular design, as many international groups supported the redesign. NYC officals expect the site to rival the Satutue of Liberty for numbers of visitors. And just like France underwriting the cost of the Satutue of Liberty, NYC officials expect that the site rebuild will be entirely funded through foreign donations. In fact, public safey officals expect a throng of visitors and are concerned how maintain order and dignity of the site, given the wildly popular support for the project amongst several interational organizations and religious groups.

The US travel industry supported the redesign as they expected millions of international visitors to make annual travel plans to visit NYC and the new site. US Airline, restaraunt, and hotel industry spokesmen have expressed strong support for the plan and provided economic projections that predict billions in anticpated revenue to their industry and the local NYC economy.

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:30 PM

It is long poast time to stop giving aid to these hateful and bigoted countries. It is also time that the West realised that those words of Mahathir are being used to murder innocent Westerners. How much longer are we going to have to put up with his vile epithets, and when will someone finally put a bullet into his evil maggot-ridden brain and send him to Satan.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:36 PM

Hey. Question.

Did any of you folks happen to notice that when they were announcing the lineup of the Chicago Bears players before the game, that when they announced that Muhammed guy, the croud booed loudly?

Is there a reason for this....other than the fact that people are waking up to the horrible intent of Islam in this country?

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:38 PM

"Hitler admired the Muhammadan way and the Muslims still admire him. Hitler blew it by not establishing a cult or religion the way Muhammad did. Otherwise the Nazis might have succeeded"

It's true, Hitler is lionized as a hero in the Muslim world today.. Anyone who hates Jews is a hero in their twisted minds.

What these poor stupid people can't grasp is that had Hitler won the war, they, along with a lot of other stupid admirers of Hitler, were headed for the gas chambers right behind the Jews.

If you weren't an Aryan, you were inferior, and the world had to be cleansed of inferiors. We have Hitler's word on that.

Do these stupid Arabs actually believe that Hitler counted them a "superior race?"

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:44 PM
Did any of you folks happen to notice that when they were announcing the lineup of the Chicago Bears players before the game, that when they announced that Muhammed guy, the croud booed loudly?

You mean Muuuuuuuuuuuuuhsin Muhammad?

Posted by: Greek Fire [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:51 PM

Did any of you folks happen to notice that when they were announcing the lineup of the Chicago Bears players before the game, that when they announced that Muhammed guy, the croud booed loudly?
You mean Muuuuuuuuuuuuuhsin Muhammad?

ha ha YES!

So what do you think? Was it a public display of what these Americans think of Islam?

I sure hope so!

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:53 PM

From the 'American expat in Malaysia blog:

"Opening for this event will be none other than the illustrious Dr Mahathir Mohamad who has just recently been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Dr. Mahathir who is demanding that all wars be made illegal will also be setting up a War Crimes Tribunal to have both President George Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair convicted and declared war criminals."

I am puzzled as to who nominates freaks like this despicable and hateful Mahatir for the nobel price. Is it the same misguided fools who would give one to Araf*kc or to that other shining example of Muhammedan love & understanding, the grand ayatollah Al Sistani?

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/02/05/mahatir-mohammed-condemns-cruel-retaliation-by-powerful-countries/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 12:58 PM

I was just wondering what the good Doctor Mahathir would say if OBL decided to fly a few American Airliners into the Infidel built pride and national symbol of Malaysia,The Petrona Towers.

Also the good Doctor Mahathir forgets recent history of how the English saved Malaysia from being over-run by Indonesia

I would like to remind the good Doctor Mahathir that if it was for the infidel Malaysia would still be another shit hole,lets not forget Bumiputra Laws (apartheid)

Former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammad has bemoaned the extreme reliance of Bumiputras(Malays/muslims) on their privileges:
"We have tried to tell them if you depend on subsidies, you are going to be very weak. But they don’t seem to understand. We tell them if you use crutches, you will not be able to stand up. Throw away the crutches, stand up straight because you still have the capacity. I have talked about this thing and as a doctor I know very well the meaning of crutches but somehow or rather they want the easy way out. If I get an AP and I sell it and make some money, it’s all right, they say."

Mahathir also said in 2004 that Bumiputras(Malays/muslims) graduates tend to have low employment rates because "the Chinese graduates choose the right subjects so they are employable. We find that the Malay graduates, especially those from the Malay stream, can’t speak English at all. No matter how much value you put on a certificate, the fact remains that an employer wants somebody with whom he can communicate. The employer is not Malay, he is a foreigner. And if he’s not going to be able to communicate with you, he will not take you."

Furthermore, the Bumiputras(Malays/muslims) students, with Government-issued scholarships and study loans, tend to take up subjects like Syariah Law, Islamic History and other Islam-related subjects. Instead of choosing to learn English and taking up subjects that are of more secular tangible benefits (e.g. Engineering, Medicine, etc.) some have gone to great lengths to further their studies in Middle Eastern countries, learning Arabic in the process.

The results of this stunning lack of pragmatism is unfortunate - in June 2006, it was revealed that a batch of 169 students sent to the Al-Azhar University in Cairo had difficulties with the Arabic language, resulting in only 5 students making it through their course

The Prime Minister, Datuk Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, had strongly criticized this trend among Bumiputras(Malays/muslims) students to choose "simple subjects" which are worthless in the job market.

The current (2006) Minister of Higher Education, Mustapa Mohamad, has stated that that he wants public universities to recruit more non-bumiputra academic staff in order to "strive for world-class institutions", which may signal a move toward less racial profiling in academia.



Posted by: shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 1:12 PM

Mr. Mahathir is so brainwashed and generally ignorant he has absolutely no valid perspective on ANYTHING. The same applies for 99.9999% of the world's Muslim community.

There is NOTHING on earth as mind-stupefyingly horrible or 'worse' than Islam!!! Certainly, the only other presently-practiced political-religious ideology (that I am aware of anyway) that teaches its followers to commit homicide is Communism. (And, by the way show, me a mosque and I'll show you an al-Qaeda recruitment and operational center---al-Qaeda is the global engine of Islam and its jihads nowadays---no wonder Mr. Mahathir doesn't think al-Qaeda is so bad). And anyway, there is nothing al-qaeda preaches or practices that is alien to Islam--why would Mahathir denounce THAT?

And by the way we were just wondering---

if western civiliation was so rotten, why the hell do Islamic countries like Malaysia parasite themselves onto them and milk them for everything they can get out of them?? So, we see here that when it comes to getting something FROM the west, Mr. Mahathir has always whistled a very different tune than the one we see him whistling here. How typical.

And anyway, at least the western nations didn't murder 50 million Christians during the twentieth century and have nothing comparable to that on their agendas--in sharp contrast to al-Qaeda and your typical mosque (which preaches death to all infidels everywhere as al-lah has instructed Muslims to follow through on in the Kuran).

The west does not believe in first degree murder. Therefore, it IS morally superior to Islam (which doesn't take much so that's no feat).

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 1:13 PM
So what do you think? Was it a public display of what these Americans think of Islam?

No. It would be quite inappropriate. "Moose" is a Christian. Most people don't know that, just as they don't realize people are shouting "Moose" as opposed to booing.

Posted by: Greek Fire [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 1:19 PM

Mr Mahathir is the poster boy for white hate and has been for quite a while thankfully he is in his eighties and shouldn,t be around much longer.

Posted by: stevenz [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 1:33 PM

"Red-Indians....Nagasaki, Hiroshima.....etc."

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 2:01 PM

Oh, come on!

Face the truth, the U.S. - the alphabet agencies have been STINKERS! Around the world!

And the pity is that the People have been asleep at the wheel - and have let them get away with it!

As an example is the School of the Americas right there in Panama for years! We all knew there what was going on!

And the invastion in Panama to extract Noriega, SNORE!

What a big show for the People - as if Panama has an air force or even a military and had to fight with ENEMY forces to get thru.

It would have been very easy to get NOriega out with an agent or even to assassinate him right there - in and out fast.

YOU ALL FORGOT THAT PANAMA - THE PANAMANIANS ARE AMERICAN ALLIES - VOLUNTARILY!

As a result of the BIG SHOW - more than 2,000 innocent civilians - in El Chorrillo were killed by U.S. soldiers.

Trouble with the average person is that they have a short memory span - while the people in other countrys remember for generations - because people here have lost the long-span memory - due to the distractions of general news media.


I could cite other examples - but my point has been made.

Oh, wait, let me do lanother one:

DUring the time that the U.S. took Puerto Rico from Spain - JUSt like the Filipinos - these islands wanted their independence from the U.S. but the American gov. had a tight fist wrapped around them. Up until the 1960s - in Perto Rico it was illegal to sing the La Borinquena

http://www.ladanza.com/himnopr.htm

Which is now the National Hymn of Puerto Rico

Even to hum it in public brought beatings and arrests.

BTW, my father was a Puerto Rican MD in the U.S. Army - during WWII.

So I am an American.

But I can see both sides of the picture.

Not even for the Negros was there equality until MLK took the bull by the cojones ( as the Mexicans say) and he paid for it.

Yes, it is only now that the American spirit is evolving to equality - and we have a long way to go.

And I KNOW we are being tested in fire. We weren't any litle angels - face the truth - breath deep and release the burden of it from your shoulders.

Softly! Softly learn.

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 2:12 PM

Dr Mahathir is a remarklable person, Anyone sitting with him for an hour will agree to that.

However, he does understand that the west instigates/supports wars between muslim nations & he dislikes this. (meaning to say, a country using an Islamic banner to destroy another islamic country), & the west thinks its fine.

This is coming from a person that feels that most organizations are infiltrated by the zionist, the media, financial institutions & the list goes on. Even the 1996 Asian crisis was blamed to 1 Jew, George Soros & not his Financial guys that gambled Billions. 99.999% of Malaysian Muslims NEVER met any Jews but they Hate them!!

I am a fan of Dr Mahathir & being a Malaysian & all. But I cant see the point of accusing the west when he & his administration did the same in Malaysia. Read about the Creation of Shah Alam & Kuala Lumpur becoming a Federal State.

The rights of Non Malays & muslims in general are diminished, clearly because of the Islamic superioty idealogy & the dhimmi status.

Now Back to the Nobel Prize nomination by the organizations in Bosnia. What did the Bosnians Muslims derserve when their forfathers ethnically clensed the serbs & locals out of their own land? & what do they do when they have power? Doing the same thing again. See how many churches are being demolised & people chased from their land.

So, from what Dr M says, its the fault of George Bush & Tony Blair & they are the criminals but somehow its not the fault of Nasrallah, Osama etc? Note: Not a word to state they are criminals.

A few things to think about:
1. Sept 11, & europe & India
2. Bali Bombing (2 times)
3. Kidnaping of westerners near the Philipines
4. Beheadings of Bhuddist in south Thailand
5. May 13, 1969 Malaysia Riot - Mosques loudspeakers were used to encourage malays to fight the chinese.

Middle East Countries are taking steps to decriminalised Holy Warriors crimes. Meaning, A mislims could start a Jihad & do all the orrible things & still be welcomed as a hero. Afganistan started this.

So, I deduce 1 thing, Its ok for muslims to kill non muslims by attacking them BUT its a crime when Non muslims kill muslims by defending themselves?


Posted by: tjwork [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 2:26 PM

dennisw wrote: "Hitler admired the Muhammadan way and the Muslims still admire him. Hitler blew it by not establishing a cult or religion the way Muhammad did. Otherwise the Nazis might have succeeded"

Actually, Hitler commissioned Himmler, Goering and Goethe to come up with a "Nazi Religion" which was called the Brotherhood of the Blood, based on the former "Thule Brotherhood". This combined a mixture of Catholic rites with Norse and Hindu Mythology and other pagan pre-Christian values. The "holy text" was Mein Kampf and they had "sacraments" of baptism, marriage etc.

Posted by: Qualis Rex [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 2:32 PM

Pythagoras

"" ...absolutely no valid perspective on ANYTHING. The same applies for 99.9999% of the world's Muslim community. ""

Assuming 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, where are those 1,600 Muslims who do have a valid perspective on anything? I can think of ... oh ... possibly a dozen or so (and I think they are all apostates, when I come to think of it): but 1600?

Posted by: Sir Henry Morgan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 3:09 PM

@ tjwork: "So, I deduce 1 thing, Its ok for muslims to kill non muslims by attacking them BUT its a crime when Non muslims kill muslims by defending themselves?"

Yes, of course, its polarized vision!

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 3:22 PM

"Assuming 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide..."
-- from a posting above

Why assume what Muslim propagandists want you to believe, are doing everything possible to make you believe?

Stick with a reasonable figure. Between 1 and 1.2 billion, maximum. And that assumes that all those blithely called "Muslims" but who are unable to openly declare their beliefs are, in fact, Believers. But how many of them are not? There must be some.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 3:26 PM

They say there are 2 billion Christians but I doubt 30% really are followers.

They say 1.2 billion Muslims exists but I say how many want to be? How many are just stuck in the Net bubble and can not escape? But if you just go by nations under their religions there are more Christian based nations with more bases to choose from to feel accepted by a Christian democracy.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 4:09 PM

The only thing I hate about America, is their insistant giving to these idiots from other countries. My child needs to learn patriotism correctly, not being led by lies from one end of the world to the other. The propaganda of Islam being peaceful or hijacked has got to stop !

Posted by: Jeff [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 8:18 PM

Mahathir Mohammed is a truly nasty piece of work. His anti-semitic, anti-British and generally anti-Western rants have been going on for decades. Malaysia is often touted as a "moderate" Muslim country, but in reality it is an apartheid state where Muslims (i.e. the bumipatera or "sons of the earth") are given unfair advantges over the non-Muslim Chinese and other minorities (who comprise around fifty percent of the population) in all fields of life, including education and business. The masterminds of the Bali bombings were Malays: hardly surprising when this kind of nonsense comes from a so-called mainstream politician. Malaysia is also a country where the film "Schindler's List" was banned as "Jewish propaganda" in some parts on the advice of so-called "Muslim scholars" such as the ignorant Menteri Besar of Kelantan State: Nik Aziz.

Posted by: The Northumbrian [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2007 8:47 PM

Mahathir and the Jews, Mahathir and the "leaders" of the West, Mahathir and his 2000 "activists" (Islamic jihadists in mind or deed or both) will have to win their war against the West before setting up "tribunals."

Moslems must be sent back into their lairs with their tails behind their legs.


They no longer frighten us. Don't they realize that yet?

Whatever they say is meaningless. What they do is not. If it harms us, they must be punished--severely.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2007 12:51 AM

Is no one concerned that this man is up for the next Nobel Peace prize?

Posted by: JamesThailand [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2007 4:11 AM

allat:

Illegal immigrants from Latin America commit approximately 9000 homicides annually in the United States; and approximately 45,000 homicides since 2001.

Since 2001, illegal Latin American immigrants have committed more than 300,000 violent crimes in the United States, most of which resulted in hospitalization of at least one US citizen.

The number of illegal immigrants from Latin America is presently at about 12 million. In 1975, there were approximately 12 million Latin American illegal aliens in the United States.

Assuming a flat rate of 9000 homicides of American citizens over 30 years we arrive at a figure of 270,000 US citizens MURDERED by Latin Americans in the U.S.

Assuming a flat rate of 300,000 violent crimes against American citizens per 5 year period over 30 years we arrive at a figure of 1,800,000 violent crimes committed by illegal Latin American immigrants in the United States.

Now we have a perspective on the 2000 homicides allegedly for which the US governmment is to blame for. Compare the 2000 deaths incurred in Panama with the 45,000 since 2001 incurred by the US from illegal Latin American immigrants. And note that this has been going on in the US since approximately 1970. Also note, that Mexico accepted cash for territories ceded to the US. Is Mexico giving the money it took from us back??? NO.

I maintain that you do NOT see "both sides of the picture.' You have no idea which picture you are even looking at.

It is America that is being invaded by Latin Americans not the other way around. The millions of illegals here are not heeir land was taken away from them; they are here because they can get away with murder (and do). The rights of the Americans are being violated; our monies paid to the govermment in programs are being taken to finance people who come here illegally and do not belong here. The Social Security monies are now being pillaged to "help" people in this country illegally. The American people aren't even being consulted about this. Their hard-earned money is being confiscated.


Many US citizens cannot get treated for serious health programs because our hospitals are full of non-citizens (this has happened both to myself and people I know). Many Americans can't find jobs; many jobs are taken by illegals. Many thousands of people have been the victims of violent crimes committed by Latin American criminals on US soil--and that by the way includes Puerto Ricans (who incidentally are more than welcome to leave US administration--it is THEY who want to stay with the US--although they have never been able to make up their minds on the issue).

The United States gives out 400 BILLION DOLLARS worth of aid (all kinds food aid, raw materials, medical supplies, security forces) to third world nations--much of which gets embezzled by corrupt third world governments. I can't help noticing that you have omitted third world corruption from your picture. No corrupt third world nation has any right to complain about America for the simple reason that they take all the cash they can all the while they double deal with enemy states of the US, like al-Qaeda (Malaysia being a classic example of one of the latter).

As for Noriega, he was NO ally of the US. If he was ousted he was most likely abetting serious bad guys from the third world (probably Islamic militants which were being financed at the time by the BCCI which we won't go into here).

Third worlders are double dipping thr first world. They cry 'victim'all the while they bleed white those nations more fortunate than they. The third world does NOT occupy the moral high ground and has no relevance anyway to the global jihad. Sorry.


Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2007 7:45 PM

JamesThailand:

Certainly not here.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2007 7:46 PM
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