"Is Abu Izzadeen an "Islamophobe"?"

He is much more than that. Dosen't the UK have laws against hate speech (real hate speech as this is, not he twisted definition floating around today) or incitement to murder?

Posted by: sounder at February 5, 2007 6:13 PM

What more evidence does the British government need in order to start sedition hearings?

Posted by: Short, fat, and a double chin at February 5, 2007 6:34 PM

The British government is an accomplice of the world wide Islamization, therefore do not count on them to start any sedition hearings. The US government is not much better, they are letting Muslims invade the US by giving them visas. I am not sitting in a college library in Florida, only 2 years ago I would have been hard pressed to see one woman wearing a hijab, tonight as I sit, I have already counted 7. Not only in schools but at malls and restaurants. How do these people get in here? How much blood will it take for the US government to stop the influx?

Posted by: David Masada at February 5, 2007 6:49 PM

Lame Cherry
Are you a poet or a rap artist?
You sound like me in my college days.

Cool, the only way to express this kind off dumbness is by showing how silly it really is.

Where are the other forigners saying the same thing. For exmaple those football players saying Chelsea is an infedel club for letting a German play for them on the internet? Come on cut his feet off they should be saying. Again people say how the Koran is being Misinterpreted by the West I guess they never get it wrong.

Apparently the oldest translation of the Koran is even more violent, the verses don'have an order they are all written seperately. I could be wrong but something I read.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at February 5, 2007 6:51 PM

Call me an Islamophobe anytime!

Sincerely,

Darcy, Proud Islamophobe

Posted by: darcy at February 5, 2007 6:55 PM

Same old . . . same old. Actually, they're monotonous, these exhortations by Islamics, boring. Time to put an end to this, long past. We do have the means to do it . . . now.

They have not been able to come up with anything new for 13 centuries. Isn't it about time that we--the rest of the world--understand what Islam is all about?

No mystery to it. What you see is what you get.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at February 5, 2007 7:00 PM

So if ordinary serial killers go public and call it a religion the UK will be powerless to do anything? The 'right' to call for summary beheadings, is that what we're calling civil rights and religious freedom these days?

Posted by: Beagle at February 5, 2007 7:08 PM

That still from the video looks like it's from a video made inside Finsbury park mosque.

Posted by: kasper1062 at February 5, 2007 7:11 PM

Masada,

Only 7 hijab clad? It's just as bad (if not much worse) up here -- in Canada. I don't know what's happened to our immigration laws -- but this has been going on for years and years. More and more burka-clad also. I remember my first encounter with a female clad entirely in black (head to foot, only a slit for the eyes) that was back in 1993...(literally ran into said person -- as she exited from a bank -- I recall wondering -- "Is it Halloween or is the bank being robbed?" but, no, it was just a minifestation of Chretien's immigration policies, and his fondness for Egyptians, I guess.

Posted by: J.S. at February 5, 2007 7:11 PM

Islam will be used by the West that is being taken over by the same Satanic entity as Islam to make us fall into the Orwellian prison planet society.

During WW2 the forces of good won as it was contained to one place in Germany, WW3 won't happen the same as the enemy will just Fossilfy it self upon the host first then then seperate. Maybe mini wars all across the globe everyone fighting a civil war.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at February 5, 2007 7:13 PM

Omar Bakri calls for the same:

Bakri calls for soldiers' heads

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at February 5, 2007 7:19 PM

Izzy doesn't beat around the bush. This is from a BBC interview conducted shortly after the Reid incident:

JH: If this country is so offensive to you…you don’t have to stay here you can go somewhere where there is Islamic law…"

AI: You have misunderstood the reality. As a Muslim I believe Allah…created whole universe; he created the UK. It doesn’t belong to you, it doesn’t belong to the Queen, it doesn’t belong to the Anglo-Saxons…Allah has put us on the planet earth to live wherever we want and implement the Sharia rules.

JH: You want Sharia law in this country? ….If you want to change the way this country functions, why can you not do it in a democratic way…?

AI: Democracy means sovereignty for man; and as a Muslim, we believe sovereignty for the Sharia, therefore I would never take part in democratic principles. Rather I will work to change society in accordance with Islamic methodology.

JH: You will not observe the democratic process?

AI: We observe Islamic rules wherever we are.

JH: The Islamic process but not the democratic process?

AI: That’s right, yes.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski at February 5, 2007 7:35 PM

I think Abu Izzadeen has serious mental issues, to be honest. The transcript of that Today interview confirms that he is not a well man. He should be sectioned immediately.

But if that tape is genuine, he is toast. This is clearly an incitement to murder. Let's hope he is forced to share a cell with a psychotic devil-worshipper.

Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at February 5, 2007 7:47 PM

Perfectly orthodox, straightforward Islamic doctrine. Not a word that would be strange to Al-Qaradawi or the Sheik Al-Azhar. Nothing strange, or "Wahhibi-influenced" or "extremist" about it. Muslims should not serve, in any way, the Infidel nation-state. And they certainly should not enroll, ever, to fight alongside Infidels for an Infidel cause (however, Infidels can be inveigled or manipulating into fighting alongsde Muslims for a Muslim cause).

Nothing to wonder at.

Posted by: Hugh at February 5, 2007 7:48 PM

A Nonny Nonny

I think Abu Izzadeen has serious mental issues, to be honest.

Then I have them as well. After several years of studying Islam I came to the conclusions Hamza and Izadeen came to, without believing it of course. But the fact remains, nothing Hamza or Izadeen says in any way contradicts basic Islamic doctrine as laid down in the books.

I hate that excuse, "mental issues." Is there anything other than his complete acceptance of literal Islam? Anything at all?

So when I hear "devout Muslim," my first instinct is to duck and cover. But I'm only basing it on several years of study and having the free time to dig in deeply. I'm sure some paid apologist has a much less disturbing view you can grasp at in desperation.

Posted by: Beagle at February 5, 2007 8:04 PM

Hey guys this is out of topic
but
this is the real face of Islam and how it treats normal human emotions like love.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6332751.stm

Posted by: Indiana_jones at February 5, 2007 8:07 PM

I'm really glad for them to expose their hate against us, maybe it'll make our governments see the truth. Let it roll, let it roll let, it roll ! Twenty one thousand troops on the way ! It's mop-up time in Iraq !

Posted by: Jeff at February 5, 2007 8:07 PM

From Wikipedia

Abu Izzadeen, is the former Trevor Brooks and became the spokesman for Abu Gharaaba which is a banned Islamic terrorist organization that operated in the the UK. He was born in in Hackney East of London to a family originally from Jamaica. Brooks converted to Islam in 1994, changing his name to Omar, but preferring to be called Abu Izadeen. He is fluent in Arabic. He is a communication engineer by training.

Influenced by his brother Abu Abdul Rahman, also a convert to Islam, the Islamic leader is married to an Arab woman with whom he has three children. He told Asharq al Awsat that 1994, the year he embraced Islam, was a watershed. He continues to regret the 17 years he spent prior to his conversion, and he added. I still vividly remember the day I pronounced the Shahada, in my father’s house. It was a day before I turned 18, on April 17 1994.

"Abu Izzadeen has described the July 7th bombers in London as "completely praiseworthy".
On the eve of the anniversary of the 7/7 attacks in London he was filmed preaching to a group of Muslims in Birmingham , mocking and laughing at the victims of 9-11 and threatening more terror attacks in the UK. He has openly stated that he wishes to die as a suicide bomber.

On September 20th 2006 he disrupted Home Secretary John Reid's first public meeting with Muslims since his appointment. He called Reid an "enemy" of Islam and in a subsequent defence of his action on the September 22, 2006 edition of BBC Radio Today programme, Abu Izzadeen was interviewed by John Humphreys. In a heated discussion, Abu Izzadeen stated that his aim was to have the UK become an Islamic State and that this should be achieved without following the democratic process.

He recently had a personal advertisement on an Islamic matrimonial website, seeking to marry up to three more wives in order to father more than nine children even though polygamy is illegal in the UK

Posted by: Mackie at February 5, 2007 8:10 PM

This guy is a convert, thereby proving that it's not bad religion that's at fault, it's bad people.
Religions don't kill people, people kill people. Nothing says you have to actually believe that stuff.
Islam is not just perverse, it compellingly so, or we wouldn't have to take it seriously.
I'd be interested to hear more discussion as to what makes Islam so successful.
Maybe converts read books like Abdul Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Behead Them".

Posted by: jewdog at February 5, 2007 8:31 PM

be aware that not all mos in the UK and US military have allegiance to England and the US.

remember the mo sarge that murdered his officers because they might kill a fellow mo.

the mos are patient and if ordered to join the military and be straight laced until the call to arms to attack they will do so.

war is coming.................

prepare be armed be ready.

The Texican.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at February 5, 2007 8:33 PM

A dangerous Double/Tripple Jeopardy

Muslims multiply the headcount of muslims in the west.

The many westerners and muslims don't want them to serve in executive position and therefore weakening the defence of any nation that tries to integrate muslims.

islam has commited itself to jihad, in other words against anything and everyone that is not islam and a muslim.

It simply doesn't work and never will.

Posted by: Arnie at February 5, 2007 8:38 PM

Speaking of videos: if you have a YouTube account, take a few minutes to flag the jihadi videos they post. Any effort to shut down the propaganda helps.

TheStudent10048

Posted by: thestudent10048 at February 5, 2007 8:39 PM

I thought Hukum meant Order by Decree.
Anyways in my opinion even though all muslims are not traitors but still muslims should not be allowed to serve in the millitary. It's a liability which can be deadly.

Posted by: Birbhadra at February 5, 2007 9:18 PM

And I thought Hukum meant Hokum. O well.

Off topic:
CNN's Michael Ware is reporting that Jamal Jafar Mohammed is a known terrorist (wanted in masterminding bombings), now sits in the Iraqi parliament. In parliament, the terrorist is immune from prosecution.

Posted by: J.S. at February 5, 2007 10:07 PM

Why does Britain have to put up with this bullshit. Uttering threats that threaten lives is a crime. When is Britain going to stand up for themselves? I see there is a real problem with radical Islam. Ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist is cowardice! When is Britain going to say "We're not going to take it anymore!"? When is Britain going to stop kowtowing to the demands of radical Islam? When? When? When?! How much longer is Britain going to put up with this Muslim bullshit... Britian... Fight back!

Posted by: JohnnyPissoff at February 5, 2007 10:26 PM

texan, with all due respect, you state that war is coming, be armed and prepared, but sorry the USA was hit badly on 9/11, but there were no mass underground movements, resistant cells of american patriots similar to the war of independence. are you guys waiting for a nuke to go off in NYC? Europe is doomed we all know that, but seriously, why are you going down the same road as europe adn no one seems to be doing anything?

please, this is a post of respect for you and all americans, its not my intention to be rude or disrespectful towards you, texan. im just baffled to see the UK become so limp wristed and i can forsee the USA heading in the same liberal direction.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at February 5, 2007 10:28 PM

How much blood will it take for the US government to stop the influx?

David Masada,

It's not how much blood, it's whose blood. So long as it's someone elses blood being spilled, our political and academic elites will continue to cling to the PC dogma that "Islam is a peaceful religion" thats been hijacked by Muslim extremists.

If ever they have to pay the price with their own blood or that of their loved ones, maybe then they'll snap out of their self-delusion and do what has to be done.

Posted by: rational at February 5, 2007 10:58 PM

ENGLAND - Oath Of Allegiance

The form of the oath of allegiance is as shown below, with the insertation, after the words "on becoming", of whichever of the following expressions is appropriate, namely:

"a British citizen"
"a British Dependent Territories citizen"
"a British Overseas citizen"
"a British subject"

Oath of Allegiance:

I, , swear by Almighty God that, on becoming I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her Heirs and Successors according to law.

It seems to me that any Muslim who takes this oath and then rants against the government of the UK, promotes disloyalty to the laws of Great Britain and encourages others to be disloyal, took the oath in bad faith and, therefore, invalidates their citizenship.

In other words, they lied about their loyalities, which are really to Islam.

So why aren't they expelled from the UK?

Posted by: rational at February 5, 2007 11:22 PM

rational/

"It seems to me that any Muslim who takes this oath and then rants against the government of the UK, promotes disloyalty to the laws of Great Britain and encourages others to be disloyal, took the oath in bad faith..."

Only by our civilised lights could this be true. For a moslem no such oath could, or will, be binding nor can it have any meaning other than that of temporary expedience. They are allowed by their religion to practise deception and lies if it furthers the advancement of islam or of a single moslem. There is no oath of loyalty that they can take that cannot be viewed, by them, to mean 'temporary', 'a necessary expediency' or 'practical deception of the kuffar'. Once one knows islam this becomes obvious.

To put it quite simply - no moslem can be trusted. Some, of course, can be trusted more than others but, as Mr. Spencer and Mr. Fitzgerald have oftimes pointed out on this site, those who can be trusted probably don't know the teachings of their religion and are probably 'moslem-for-identification-purposes-only' in any case. There may be a third group, that I will willingly admit, a group who have managed to be moslem and loyal British - perhaps those two brave moslem soldiers who agreed to be the bait in the sting operation mounted recently by British Intelligence and Police forces belong to this third group. But if the third group exists it is pathetically small and weak compared with the forces of the jihad being waged against us.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at February 5, 2007 11:58 PM

please, this is a post of respect for you and all Americans, its not my intention to be rude or disrespectful towards you, texan. im just baffled to see the UK become so limp wristed and i can forsee the USA heading in the same liberal direction.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at February 5, 2007 10:28 PM
+++++++++++++++

ltpf.....

you have a right to be concerned for Americans are concerned about the lack of effort by our own federal government in protectin America and Americans at home.

Americans across America are still pissed off about 9/11 and the lack of effort by our own government which has done so little inside America to protect us. America's borders are still open and how many terrorists and explosives have entered America across our southern and our northern borders that are open and essentially not guarded.

In Arizona, our National Guard was accosted by uniformed armed invaders and the Guard was not allowed to fight back but were ordered to retreat. Americans retreating inside America.

War is coming to America. It is inevitable and can not be stopped.

Many Americans are preparing for the war that is coming We are arming We are becoming ready.

America will be attacked again inside America and then all hell will break loose........

any action taken now would result in those taking the action to be hunted down instead of the file vermin that needs to be hunted down by our federal government.

how many visitors, students, etc (probable terrorists) that have overstayed their visas and have not been hunted down in America??????

The feds can prosecute and send to prison two border agents for shooting a drug smuggler and allow the drug smuggler to go free.

there is becoming no Justice in America.

there is a fifth column in America and it prays to the filth that is the cult of islam.

there will never be sufficient mos converted to make a difference in the coming war. if you know a mo family, never turn you back on them for they have no allegiance except to the cult of islam.

war is coming...........

prepare be armed be ready...

The Texican.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at February 6, 2007 12:16 AM

Dr Sentamu,The second most senior cleric in the Church of England,who fled Uganda in the 1970s, criticised 90-day detention, likening it to the tyrannical rule of Idi Amin.

He said the UK is close to becoming a police state in the wake of the arrest of suspected terrorists in Birmingham.

http://www.itv.com/news//britain_ae43f9f81e0e3d34e1833bf85d3e9dd4.html

Posted by: shiva at February 6, 2007 12:18 AM

its really funny when u here something like that here about the peoples reaction to abu ezzelden at the same time no body mentioned what happens to a christian person in the middle east if he convert to islam especially in egypt he or she get killed if u dont believe me look it up on the internet they even upload the clip on the web sites

if islam is that bad guys how come moore and more christains convert to islam all over the world if u dont believe me go to cairo egypt (alazhar university for islamic studies)u will see more british and americans than the egyptians these r the people who decided to read to do something other than watching cheap tv

finally for ms Lame Cherry be honest with ur self did u even bother to read the KORAN u dont just sit and watch tv and judge what u can not understand

Posted by: mohamed at February 6, 2007 12:20 AM

"When I point out that Muhammad commanded the execution of apostates, I'm called an "Islamophobe." Is Abu Izzadeen an "Islamophobe"?"

No, because what he means is ...

... peace unto these people for excercising their free will as God intended all people to do

and

... may they have long, healthy, and happy lives.

One cannot selectively pick bits of rhetoric and portray Abu Izzadeen as something he is not (sarcasm intended).

Posted by: LoneRanger at February 6, 2007 12:25 AM

Personally I don't think that you're an Islamophobe until after he's shot. Then it becomes a moot point, and the moot may take a while to assemble. Maybe eternity, moots are notoriously slow gathering assemblages.

Posted by: Mike H. at February 6, 2007 12:38 AM

What I really do not understand is why western countries allow muslims to come and stay. Being an IT professional, looking absolutely european way and having no terrorist ties I wanted to migrate to Ireland. I found the job but was refused the working Visa. And still I see muslim communities in the UK and other country only seem to grow, living on the money of good tax payers. There is something I don't understand. Is there a conspiracy, I wonder.
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Posted by: Hell Awaits at February 6, 2007 12:48 AM

When I point out that Muhammad commanded the execution of apostates, I'm called an "Islamophobe." Is Abu Izzadeen an "Islamophobe"?

More accurate:
Abu Izzadeen; "Islamophober"; one who causes Islamophobia.

Robert Spencer: "Islamoprober": one who probes the truth about Islam.

Posted by: Xero G at February 6, 2007 1:09 AM

Let him continue talking, it will be known as the fruit of his tree. They can not help themselves, it must happen to gather new followers to islam, and as they gather more they expose the true believer's thoughts to the western world. The lies must continue for a short while longer, soon it will all change.

Shawn Hannity just had Ayaan Hirsi Ali on the show, and it was something that a year ago was never seen, the truth about islam. Fox, and Hannity have come a long way, and these videos from the clerics of islam are helping spread the truth.

The next major attack will bring about a massive change, in how islam will be dealt with here, and the world, thanks to the filming and videos of islam's hate filled world.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at February 6, 2007 1:11 AM

School authorities sacked a teacher in the UK who taught that most suicide bombers are muslims. What a reaction.
What kind of pressure is needed to get this guy out and far away from civilization.

Posted by: Arnie at February 6, 2007 1:24 AM

its really funny when u here something like that here about the peoples reaction to abu ezzelden at the same time no body mentioned what happens to a christian person in the middle east if he convert to islam especially in egypt he or she get killed if u dont believe me look it up on the internet they even upload the clip on the web sites

Reason any Christian in Egypt converts is simple - the 2nd class status that the Copts live in, coupled by the fact that Egypt is swarming with Ikhwan. Take away that reign of terror, and then watch how many Muslims choose to switch away from Islam, a la Nonie Darwish

if islam is that bad guys how come moore and more christains convert to islam all over the world if u dont believe me go to cairo egypt (alazhar university for islamic studies)u will see more british and americans than the egyptians these r the people who decided to read to do something other than watching cheap tv Posted by: mohamed

Sure, the world has its share of losers, particularly Leftist wackos in Europe who are extreme Feminists, Multiculturalists, Communists and any number of things, who go to Cairo, recite the Shehada, and then discover how different Islam is from their fantasy vision.

Also, when you say watching cheap TV, how expensive is Ikhwan TV from Cairo, or al Minar from Hizbullah?

Also, Mohammed, are you a Sunni or Shia? If the former, what do you think of Bashar al Assad? If you are the latter, what do you think of Ikhwan al Muslimiya?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 6, 2007 1:26 AM

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 6, 2007 01:26 AM

Hahaha,forgot to mention all the pedophiles

Posted by: Arnie at February 6, 2007 1:55 AM

As soon as this became public he should have been yanked by the collar into a police cell without his feet touching the ground. I can't understand why the government let him walk around free. He's a danger to the community.

Posted by: wallyUK at February 6, 2007 1:58 AM

Abu Izzadeen said

He who joins the British Army, the American Army, he is a mortal kaffir and his only hukum (punishment) is for his head to be removed. Indeed, whoever changes his deen (Muslim code of life); kill him.

If that is not incitement to violence, what is it? If we cannot imprison or expell someone for making these types of exhortations, what good are our laws? If our government cannot (or will not) stop this, how can we trust our government to carry out its most basic responsibility, to protect its citizens? And if our government will not protect us, what will the alternative be?

Posted by: special_guest at February 6, 2007 1:58 AM

What this ' man' is saying is outright treason.He wishes for the U.K.s soldiers to be killed and any british muslim soldiers killed for allying with them,if they are.

The hang up is that this ' man ' and the ones like him use our freedoms against us.Free speach however does not cover what these ' people ' incite.

When,in your intire life have you ever heard of anyone being charged with treason? Anyone? Do you think there are any that have commited treason? Aside from the butt crack that makes the videos for al-quaida,Adam whats his face.

Someone had a point earlier as far as immigration was concerned.Maybe there should be layers to get to full citizen ship,get there in steps,long steps.Learn the language and get and keep a job conform to society.

Muslims think they need seperate toilets.if i were in charge i would have dunked thier head in the nearest one i could find for asking such idiotic requests.It's your problem that allah has you crapping in a certain direction ,not ours.Hold it till you get to your own crapper.

These fools say what they say and when called on it say they were misquoted or it was taken out of context.Then they wave the 'free speach' banner.Let us say one thing against islam and it's hell to pay,off with thier heads,burn some stuff to the ground,run out get some hostages.

It must be nice to be so great,so holy,so devinely guided.

I am sorry to say freedom of speach is not free,there has been and will be again a heavy price to pay for it.Islam has never earned it,it steals it like it does all that it has,islam has never earned anything they take all others and say allah willed it to them.

The farce of islam is so clear to see i am just awed by the ignorance of people. Islams finest weopon in it's arsonal is it's ignorance mist,it has to be true because all the leaders exposed to the islamic appologists must breathe it because they just ooze ignorance from every stinking pore.

A two way street would be nice from islam.If you want it here in the free world then we want ours in the zombie lands.Lets build some churches in saudi arabia,lets pass out bibles there.lets us stand around calling for the deaths of muslims there or any muslim land.

How many more decades of NO reform are we to put up with from savages.They come here and demand,they wish for special attention for who and what they are.They should be imprisoned like all criminals plain and simple.

You want free hand outs? Three hots and a cot and all the koran you can memorize....be well my friends revel in your ignorance till the day you see the light.

Who cares what these people want?We can't even investigate crimes committed by muslims? Get real.Instead of our police and politicians being afraid of them make them afraid of you,show some guts for a change.

They have earned nothing,nothing.
We reward these people for the worst possible outlooks and behavior.Talk about bad parenting and spoiled kids.....spare the rod and spoil the child.Live on stage right now before all to see,the rod has been spared.

These people should be made to dread the friday brainwashing session and all the rest.They should worry about if what they say is going to cause thier holy rear ends to be hauled off to jail.

They need ultimatums.Change your ways or we change them for you.Stop the killing of innocent people,or we will stop you at all cost.I wonder what makes our leaders think the value of muslim lives is worth more than thier own people? To sit by and squabble over idiotic crap.You power mongers,filth.

With the higher education and better standards we keep one would think a great nation like the U.S. could be a shining light a pristine example of what politics should be and can be.

No, We all have to have our agenda,say and do what benefits our position both now and the future.

I have two hands and i would love to have islams throat in one and the political throat in the other.Niether would breathe another breathe.I would have thier adams apples on a silver plate,fit for a king and feed them to thier aids and yes men.

There is a lesson to learn from people with nothing left to lose,just keep taking,go on take some more tomorrow and the next day get your fill.

Soon they will come to take whats left and there will be no more , so much pity will fill hearts,hate filled eyes for being pushed beyond capacity to understand and the price to be paid for that free speach,that price to be paid to allow all others to teach and practice what they believe will be paid again.

Islam has earned nor desreves nothing.Islam is lucky we do not have them in interment camps for thier treason and murderous speaches.

Do the world a favor spay and neutor the muslims near you.

Islam is a mistake and we have erasers.It's okay to admit mistakes,it's also okay to start from scratch.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at February 6, 2007 2:28 AM

Dar al-harb,

great post!

wasn't this one muslim guy speaking what most of them think?

Posted by: Arnie at February 6, 2007 2:44 AM

Here is the video that was shown shown by ITN News
http://www.zippyvideos.com/5347978716619296/abu_izzadeen/

Posted by: mario at February 6, 2007 3:03 AM

Dar al-harb, nice one. haha

Sent you a link Arnie via email. You'll see why I thought you were someone else!

Posted by: uneven and sagging at February 6, 2007 3:22 AM

This guy just tells us the basic islamic teachings.
Anyone can read them, it's part of the muslim manifesto. Protected by the western right of free profession of religion.... which nowadays seems to
top any other law and legislation.
You can't fight jihadism without confronting islam.
Mosques and islamic schools are their breeding ground. It's them, not the moderates who find their arguments in the quran, Mohammed's life and the haddiths. No need to try to catch single mosquitos if you continue ignoring their swamp.

Posted by: flibustier at February 6, 2007 3:42 AM

Beagle,

My throwaway line about Abu Izzadeen's 'issues' is provoked not by real concern for his mental state but a desire to see the man sectioned.

In fact, my comments do a great disservice to those who do have mental problems because Izzadeen knows exactly what he is doing and saying.

As Hugh observes far more eloquently than me, the views he expresses are, it seems, fully in line with orthodox Islamic thinking.

Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at February 6, 2007 4:00 AM

"When you start to ask Muslims to join your Army and your police you are making a grave mistake. That British Muslim who joins the police today will one day read the Koran and will have an awakening," he said.

"Those moderates are one day going to be practising Muslims. Now what happens if they are British police or in the Army and they have weapons? How much information do they have about you that they will use to serve the global struggle?

Omar Bakri.

Well Omar now Trevor has threatened to chop off their heads, your infiltration plan will probably fail.

Posted by: Mert at February 6, 2007 4:33 AM

Abu Izzadeen is a busy man. He enjoys a monthly income of £700 on Welfare since he refuses to work. His Council Tax is paid by the State. Nice non-work if you can get it!

Jihad loving Scum like Izzadeen should have ALL welfare benefit instantly revoked and booted OUT of this country.

These preachers of hate are being allowed to perpetuate their evil gospel every day they remain free. Can't Government see this IS the face of our enemy within???

Posted by: shiva at February 6, 2007 5:32 AM

@shiva
Sarcasm on..
Sorry to correct you. Abu Izzadeen doesn't receive welfare. He simply collects the yizha in accordance to his faith. And humble as he is he let's the infidel government get away with a mere 700. Instead
of accusing him of abuse we should instead praise his humbleness. Otherwise we might make this poor man only desperate. We should behave like good infidels and simply accept that. The world is made for muslims. So either we become muslim or we pay.. At least our governments seem to be ahead of us there.
Sarcasm off..

Posted by: flibustier at February 6, 2007 5:59 AM

It is simple to see what stops us protecting our societies from men like this (both here in the UK and in the USA). It is the ever pervading throughout society, government, media and large corporations view of "Political correctness".
This back door for the activities of extremists was created most likely by accident. It was created by "liberal minded" people who thought their ideals of peace and love amongst all men would actually work. They actually believed this multicultural crap would work. Even worse they managed to get laws passed to try and force it to work. Laws such as race relations, human rights, religious hatred, the list goes on. These laws are ranged directly against the law abiding citizens of the countries who passed them. They play directly into the hands of the enemy (Islam).

People, we need to change our politicians, we need to change societies attitudes to speak up against unjust laws which are used by Jihadists to allow them to operate in our countries.
It is NOT their "Human Rights" to preach calling for our murder and for our countries to adopt Islam or die. It is NOT racist for us to speak out against them, to campaign for the defence of OUR way of life. Yet still the law prevents many of us from doing so. Police officers must walk on broken glass when dealing with these people for fear of a "human rights / racism" claim. This resulting in disciplinary action, even being fired. People who work for any government organisation, or large corporation also live in fear. You are overheard criticising Islam and you are immediately branded a "racist" by the PC secret police. You are disciplined and are fired.

This is the reality of how Jihad is taking root in our countries, Because our well meaning politicians have tied our hands so tight, with laws designed to "protect the weak" our own culture is now defenceless. I believe our US cousins would call it "hogtied". We need to get some laws changed so we can fight back using OUR civil rights, before there really is a take over by Islam. We need to change the political and social culture in our own countries to remove the shields these nutters use to operate under.

They should be living in fear of our laws, not the other way round! After making a speech like this in his local mosque, this Abu Izzadeen should be waiting for his front door to come of the hinges and for several large constables and a handful of police dogs (they do hate those dogs don't they!!) to come charging in and drag him off to jail (with crappers deliberately facing East!). His family would be deported immediately and so would he after serving his sentence. Mind you for what he did the sentence should involve a blindfold, 5 riflemen and a brick wall!

We will have to fight Islam on the world stage, in a strategic action (WW3).
We should not however, have to fight them in our backyards at the same time. Lets get them out before the real war starts.

Posted by: Defender of The Realm at February 6, 2007 7:39 AM

rational: "In other words, they lied about their loyalities, which are really to Islam."

Yes, they all lie. It is accepted in Islam to make any deal or agreement with the infidels, then go ahead and break it. We see nothing but lies from Islam except one, when they say they want us all dead and to take over, they mean that as a promise.

Posted by: sounder at February 6, 2007 9:25 AM

Jeff: "Twenty one thousand troops on the way ! It's mop-up time in Iraq !"

21 thousand troops in Iraq will do nothing. One cannot win over an enemy who wants to die. Human life means nothing to these people. Only overwhelming force can mop up Iraq and that isn't going to happen.

Posted by: sounder at February 6, 2007 9:36 AM

Well said, Defender of The Realm.

What particularly angers me is that the very people who are in a position to deal with (i.e. throw in jail and/or dump in the Sahara from a great height) the likes of this charming Abu Izzadeen chappie - namely the elected Government - seem the ones who are least willing to actually do anything.

It took years of ranting from Abu Hamza before he was finally banged up. During the time he was allowed to preach hate and live off state handouts, it is almost certain that he radicalised several future jihadists, including Richard "shoe-bomber" Reid.

I learn today that Miss Brenda Burqa from the legal firm who defended Hamza has "earned" several hundred thousand pounds via legal aid from the case. So, not only have I been paying for Hamza's board and lodgings, but I am also paying to defend him. Perhaps I should demand my money back from Mr Blair. But if I do, I am liable to get a 4am knock at the door from his stormtroopers.

Now Hamza - who is Egyptian - is costing the UK something in excess of £30,000 a year to fester in jail, so I'm paying yet again.

"Angry" does not adequately describe my feelings about Hamza, Izzadeen etc.

THIS GOVERNMENT MUST GO!

Posted by: watling at February 6, 2007 9:54 AM

I wish this lump of excreta lived close to me.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at February 6, 2007 11:31 AM

I wish this lump of excreta lived close to me.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at February 6, 2007 11:32 AM

Trevor Brookes is not a threat to British society. In fact the guy is an asset to everybody in the country who wishes to live without Sharia.

Where would we be without the likes of the comedy terrorists living on state welfare while calling for destruction? Who would remind the newspapers that the threat is real?

These monkeys have come out with threats of civil war and such nice ideas as the Queen is a subject of that allah bloke. They beat their chest and threaten and it all comes to nothing. They aren’t strapping on an explosive vest, they are collecting welfare. They aren’t flying to Pakistan for a lesson in IED’s from an Iranian with a hard on for allah. They are sat on their arse spouting to the BBC, that seems to love the sound of their voice about how islam is going to rule the world with their help.

The truth of the matter is that if Trevor was serious jihad he would be in a dusty trench outside of a village in Afghanistan with his head between his knees praying that the Marines bodge their artillery coordinates. How the real jihadi’s must admire his bravery.

He comes from a rich field of political jihad merchants who get so close to combat as to stare disapprovingly at an infidel, while they encourage the more gullible to die for them.

He is a coward and a fool.

Posted by: Mert at February 6, 2007 5:27 PM

the IRA put out a death threat on all serving members of the UK's armed forces. the jihadists are learning guerilla tactics within the UK from someone? possibly socialist irish republican mercenaries and obviously by saudi mentors. but their tactics are very similar to the IRA's activities, but more blood thirsty. do we brits really wanna go through this again? bomb scares every week in london, bloody atrocities twice a year. c'mon lads, lets end this.

i propose no co-operation with the current police forces in the UK, a boycott of all liberal and islamic establishments. an organisation similar to a para-military cell but using our political democratic process (strictly non violence), and a strict code of silence within our ranks. we could start a world wide organisation, an underground militia, communication by internet and we could be prepared to be on the streets within a minutes notice, to shut down any government that allies itself with the jihadists.

we need a symbol, a flag as our banner of our new revolution, a peaceful, non violent democratic revolution.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at February 6, 2007 11:40 PM