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Although he also stands by the claim that his words were "taken out of context." Abu Izzadeen Update: "Extremist stands by punishment claims," from ITN, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
The Islamic extremist who heckled the Home Secretary is unrepentant over footage of him calling for British Muslim soldiers to beheaded.Abu Izzadeen was filmed claiming Muslims who join the British Army face capital punishment under Muslim law.
He stands by every word he uttered in the video that appeared on an underground website.
He insists he was taken out of context but would say the same again.
Scholars from a number of mosques have rejected his version of Islamic law, which they say risks damaging community relations.
If it didn't damage community relations, would they reject it?
Posted by Robert at February 6, 2007 6:43 PM
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Trevor if you fly you can get to Pakistan for some real jihad training and then get yourself over the border and make your name in real take over the world fighting in Helmand province.
Unless your feeling comfy on your infidel handouts and enjoying the BBC coverage?
You wouldn’t be a loud mouth coward would you Trevor?
at February 6, 2007 6:55 PM
Theres nothing worse than a wannabe anything ,
especially a wannabe jihadi.
How far up in the queue to be a suicide bomber is he?
What ?...he isn`t on it !
Surprised ?
at February 6, 2007 7:01 PM
What Muslim soldiers risk in the British army is killing a muslim, which carries the penalty of Hell.
But there's only a couple of hundred of muslim soldiers anyway, and it's between them and Allah, and if this was a muslim state to pass any judgement on them, then there wouldn't be a British army to join, would there?
What with America and Britain illegally invading Iraq and torturing, killing, and imprisoning a over a million Iraqis, it's hardly a big issue, so I guess the point of getting horrified by a remote "what-if" in the news is to deflect the true horror of criminal acts in the government.
at February 6, 2007 7:14 PM
What is your demon's name, Maryam?
Posted by: fedupinamerica
at February 6, 2007 7:21 PM
"What with America and Britain illegally invading Iraq and torturing, killing, and imprisoning a over a million Iraqis..."
-- from a posting above
Oh for god's sake. Basta.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 6, 2007 7:29 PM
"They want to go to heaven so want to go and kill an infidel"
Pure nonsense. Heaven is earned with piety, prayer, self-denial and charity.
The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern. We want to set a good example of family, courtesy, neighbourliness and good manners.
Islam's simple, harmonious, satisfying way of life may lead you to enquire more and even convert, but if not, that's ok.
"To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran
at February 6, 2007 8:16 PM
What muslim soldiers risk in the British Army is killing a muslim, which carries the penalty of Hell... Is this penalty because they are serving kuffirs, or are the sunni and shia forces who slaughter muslim civilians in Iraq every day also facing the penalty? Just a theological question.
Posted by: MP
at February 6, 2007 8:17 PM
Article:
"Abu Izzadeen was filmed claiming Muslims who join the British Army face capital punishment under Muslim law."
TRUTH
Maryam:
"The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern."
LIE
It really is that simple a distinction. Muslims ALWAYS tell the truth, EXCEPT when they lie. It is impossible to completely separate the truth from lies in Islam. It is a two-way street, well traveled, in both directions. This contradiction could not be more evident than:
"He insists he was taken out of context(LIE), but would say the same again.(TRUTH)"
Simple.
Posted by: awake
at February 6, 2007 8:26 PM
Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows that he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not violated.
Posted by: pez
at February 6, 2007 8:31 PM
Maryam
"" Heaven is earned with piety, prayer, self-denial and charity.
The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern. We want to set a good example of family, courtesy, neighbourliness and good manners.
Islam's simple, harmonious, satisfying way of life may lead you to enquire more and even convert, but if not, that's ok. ""
Loblocks.
Go read this. We've got you and your kind well sussed.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26769
at February 6, 2007 8:31 PM
What with America and Britain illegally invading Iraq and torturing, killing, and imprisoning a over a million Iraqis, it's hardly a big issue, Posted by: maryam at February 6, 2007 07:14 PM
+++++++++
its called a start.
at February 6, 2007 8:32 PM
This Izadeen numbskull is doing a good job getting Brits to sign up for the British National Party.
Posted by: jewdog
at February 6, 2007 8:35 PM
Golly Maryam,
Haven't 'seen' you around lately? Busy amputating unrepentant thieves' hands?
Oh, and by the way:
"To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran
Narrated 'Ikrima: 'Ali burnt some people and this news reached ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as [Muhammad] said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for [Muhammad] said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'" 4:52:260
Posted by: PRCS
at February 6, 2007 8:40 PM
Illegal war? What Illegal war are you refering to maryam? You must have been sleeping for the 12 years following the Gulf War Cease Fire. Where US Military Forces were trying to prevent more than the 17 UN documented Violations. You know, Trying to keep Saddam from killing more than the estimated 1 million Countryman(Women)that he did.
We will admitt that Saddam was capable of killing alot more people with alot less collateral Dammage than what we manage. As much as the Iraqis wish to kill each other. they still cannot manage to do as good a Job.
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at February 6, 2007 8:40 PM
From today's Jerusalem Post Letters:
Arrested in Iran for holding hands
Sir, - I am a man who writes to show the situation of life in my country in the 21st century. We are living in a big hell whose name is Iran, a country where inanimate things have more liberty than living ones.
One day last week my girlfriend and I were sitting in a local park. She was laughing and took my hands. We were enjoying ourselves very much. Suddenly two policemen came and asked us to go with them. They looked angry. We were very confused. "Why should we come with you? What have we done?" I asked them. They said nothing. I repeated my question, but one of them pulled our hands apart, then started swearing at us.
They took us to the police station, kicking me on the way, then started beating me with a nightstick in a small, dark room. They shouted at me and called me "atheist." They repeatedly said "God damn you‚" then shoved me to the ground. One of them put his boot on my head and pressed it down.
I know it is incredible, but it was real. Do you know why they acted as they did? Because we had touched hands [in public], and it is forbidden in Islam. It was our whole crime.
They made me say, "I repent‚" in the presence of my girlfriend. Can you imagine it? Yes! They behaved according to their Islam and the laws in Iran! They said they could also whip us. And there is no law to protect us.
I understood that they also have a rule for killing single persons who had sex, with stones. But under foreign pressure they have stopped this. Every foreign visitor can easily find us who are living in adversity, without any
freedom or rights.
I study in one of the best universities in Iran, but the behavior even against students in this country is barbaric. So what will they do with the world, if they could?!
Please publish my story without any name because if they find me, they will terrorize me, certainly. But what I would really like to say to other humans is: Enjoy your freedom, and know people are killed for it in another part of the world.
NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD
Iran
at February 6, 2007 8:46 PM
Pure nonsense. Heaven is earned with piety, prayer, self-denial and charity.
The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern
posted by Maryam
If that was so in your religion, then we would not be here. Jihad Watch would not be here. Sure there are a few racists here, but most of us would not be concerned about your religion if there were not certain verses in your holy book calling for our demise in exchange for Heaven.
Posted by: wrathofasma
at February 6, 2007 9:01 PM
Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: to Whom be glory forever and ever.
Violence, death and repression. That's all Islam is. By their fruits ye shall know them, and to know Islam is to be made sick to your stomach. To see a vision of a god so perverted and cruel that he requires his slaves to kill, maim, butcher, control, and live in abject fear of any idea that might pop into their heads that doesn't fall into line with the ideology. A god that fills their heads with the idea that they are superior to other human beings and have a duty to punish them. It is truly sickening to see so many people living in this bondage.
My prayer is that they will come out from under this sickness and be made whole.
Posted by: Stand fast in the liberty
at February 6, 2007 9:02 PM
QUOTES FROM ITV:
Abu Izzadeen was filmed claiming Muslims who join the British Army face capital punishment under Muslim law.
(OK BUT HE IS IN THE UK NO MUSLIM LAW SO HE SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO CHANGE IT TO ONE)
He stands by every word he uttered in the video that appeared on an underground website.
(SO THIS IS TRUE DEMOCRACY IS NOT HIS AIM IN LIFE-ISLAM IS A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT HE HIDES BEHIND AS A RELIGION)
He insists he was taken out of context but would say the same again.
(HE DID SAY AGAIN, IF IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT WHY MAKE A POLITICAL VIEW POINT)
Scholars from a number of mosques have rejected his version of Islamic law, which they say risks damaging community relations.
(HE IS RIGHT BECAUSE LEAVING ISLAM FOR ANOTHER SYSTEM AS WELL AS OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES IS A DEATH SENTENCE ITS NOT ONLY HIS VERSION OF THE LAW)
Posted by: jesusisthelamb
at February 6, 2007 9:16 PM
Maryam isn't as much fun as Naseem. And though she has her uses, I don't think she's going to be here for long.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 6, 2007 9:20 PM
The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern.Big brotherly concern even.
Thanks for the laugh, Maryam.
Posted by: Beagle
at February 6, 2007 9:27 PM
Why is it muslims are only allowed to chatter away making world dictates like they mean something?
Maryam comes on the site spewing things like the world voted it into law. This low self esteem twit in London spews things like he has some authority to back it up. If anyone like....gee Hitler rattled on about the same "laws" he ended up sucking war as he had a nation......other malcontents end up in prison or hung, because lawful nations dislike murderous anarchists.
It is time that all Islam be treated as it demands....a governmental system bent on overthrowing standing governments via mayhem, anarchy and treason.
Oh and Maryam.....yes there needs to be propaganda to deflect from criminal acts of the government as Iraq is so peaceful under Islam, hundreds of thousands butchered by Saddam and now muslim kiddos butchering each other.....you are so brilliant and right in this is smokescreen to cover up the peaceful areas like Britain, America and the Green Zone where Americans and Brits are in charge.
Posted by: Lame Cherry
at February 6, 2007 9:27 PM
"Maryam isn't as much fun as Naseem. And though she has her uses, I don't think she's going to be here for long."
Posted by: Hugh
Either there are two Hughs posting on this site or someone has hijacked Hugh's nom de plume.
The Hugh we know and love would never post a statement as short as the one quoted above, and he certainly wouldn't be caught dead starting a sentence with a conjunction.
I call for an immediate investigation.
Posted by: USBeast
at February 6, 2007 9:37 PM
Maryam is simply a product of the Lies she chooses to embrace -- beginning with the Qur'an.
Garbage in -- garbage out!
Posted by: champ
at February 6, 2007 9:40 PM
wouldn't be a British army to join, would there?
"What with America and Britain illegally invading Iraq and torturing, killing, and imprisoning a over a million Iraqis."
Truth is, you savege islamcis have been torturing and killing each other from the "get go" of the cult. Even before there was a UK or a U.S.
How many millions of people did the islamic cult slaughter?
How many North Africans and Greeks, and Persians and Indian?
at February 6, 2007 9:45 PM
"To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran"
No problem there - if only you islamics all left everybody else alone, babe.
Posted by: allat
at February 6, 2007 9:47 PM
"One day last week my girlfriend and I were sitting in a local park. She was laughing and took my hands. We were enjoying ourselves very much. Suddenly two policemen came and asked us to go with them. They looked angry. We were very confused. "Why should we come with you? What have we done?" I asked them. They said nothing. I repeated my question, but one of them pulled our hands apart, then started swearing at us.
They took us to the police station, kicking me on the way, then started beating me with a nightstick in a small, dark room. They shouted at me and called me "atheist." They repeatedly said "God damn you‚" then shoved me to the ground. One of them put his boot on my head and pressed it down.
I know it is incredible, but it was real. Do you know why they acted as they did? Because we had touched hands [in public], and it is forbidden in Islam. It was our whole crime."
Wonder if their names were Winston and Julia????
This is the truth of Islam, but the PC, multi-cultural crowd just refuses to acknowledge or talk about it.
Thank God for this site and others like it!!!!!!!
Posted by: isolde
at February 6, 2007 9:48 PM
Lame Cherry
Hi, I appreciate your views there is truth in them but remember I feel that sometimes people on this website sound worse than they should, people are starting to sound like the people they don't like. We should try and be less aggressive written about people on here we don't want to sound like a Jihad’s.
Yes it's ok to write about the stories in shame but by using personal attacks on people a website like this will lose it's credibility. I just do not like it when people refer other people as something nasty and if there is another way within what they have written then use that and the language that will sound less offensive.
Its not just you Lame cherry but all people here, this website will just be turned or seen into a racist nest either by those who pass by or by exploiting it and giving other people here a bad name.
Peace man God loves as well.
at February 6, 2007 9:48 PM
"Pure nonsense. Heaven is earned with piety, prayer, self-denial and charity.
The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern. We want to set a good example of family, courtesy, neighbourliness and good manners.
Islam's , satisfying simple, harmoniousway of life may lead you to enquire more and even convert, but if not, that's ok.
"To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran
maryam,
Try telling your Muslim family and friends that you've decided to convert to Christianity, and justify your conversion with the above Quarnic quotation "To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran. And then see if "that's ok" with them.
And then see how "satisfying simple, harmonious way" your life is after that.
But plan on going into hiding for fear for your life, especially if you live in an Islamic society.
You can't possibly be that detached from reality.
Posted by: rational
at February 6, 2007 9:50 PM
MARYAM!!
Please keep writing, because your posts motivate us all to keep fighting -- to keep fighting AGAINST Islam.
at February 6, 2007 10:00 PM
Remember Iraq had a 360 degree aim of hatred at its surrounding nations, in the 90's there was the supergun they were trying to build, parts were transported from the UK even without knowing what for. The problem was Saddam made everyone his enemy including his own people that could be arrested for saying anything against him. He used children to spy on their parents and ask them if they said anything wrong about him. Some families run away out of fear. It was not a war just about oil but againsts a terror system that only the Romans would be proud of if not admire, but the problem was that this is year 2000+ how long is the world going to put up with barbaric systems that went out of fashion over a thousand years ago? It was a worldly concern like Iran now that could once again bring instability to the middle east.
Posted by: jesusisthelamb
at February 6, 2007 10:05 PM
COnjunctions are allowed in today's more relaxed grammar.
Remember, language starts from the everyday usage of the people, NOT from the university dons that think they are the tops, touting their PhDs.
Posted by: allat
at February 6, 2007 10:05 PM
OT, Infidelophobia
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24331_UK_Islamic_School_Teaching_Infidelophobia&only
at February 6, 2007 10:30 PM
"COnjunctions are allowed in today's more relaxed grammar."
While this may be true for other writers, Hugh is most meticulous in regards to his use of the English language. This is to his credit. My earlier comment was a gentle gibe at Hugh for his tendency to offer an essay when an epigram would suffice.
"Remember, language starts from the everyday usage of the people, NOT from the university dons that think they are the tops, touting their PhDs."
This comment does not apply to me. I am a carpenter by trade. The only PhD I own is a Post Hole Digger.
I do, however, dearly love the English language.
Posted by: USBeast
at February 6, 2007 11:04 PM
Why is this guy out of jail? Is it because there is no space in Britain's overcrowded jails (80,000 spaces and 80,000 prisoners)? Because otherwise, such obvious incitement to murder and high treason must surely deserve him many years at the taxpayer's expense.
Posted by: Paolo
at February 7, 2007 2:40 AM
maryam,Try telling your Muslim family and friends that you've decided to convert to Christianity, and justify your conversion with the above Quarnic quotation "To you your religion and to me mine"- Quran. And then see if "that's ok" with them.
Since Maryam is a British convert to Islam, I don't think this applies to her.
Maryam, you are a twit, though. We all know that the surest way for a Muslim to go to Paradise is to die a shahid. How can you do this without trying to kill somebody?
WSW
Posted by: Wild Slutty Womens
at February 7, 2007 1:24 PM
We all know that the surest way for a Muslim to go to Paradise is to die a shahid.
It isn't, though!
How is it that you "all know", with such certainty, something that is NOT TRUE?
at February 7, 2007 2:40 PM
"Maryam isn't as much fun as Naseem. And though she has her uses, I don't think she's going to be here for long."
posted by Hugh
You are right, I do have to go inshaALLAH.
Only Allah can help you, not me.
Whomsoever Allah guides, none can mislead, and whomsoever Allah misleads, none can guide.
If you want to know what is really going on, take a shower (be clean) and humbly and sincerely ask Allah to reveal the truth to you.
After all, if He didn't exist, no harm in asking.
And if you assume He does, it's really important to find out what the truth is isn't it?
And if you want to keep your opinion whatever the truth is, then no amount of explaining will change your mind.
Peace be upon you all, and especially ZK.
at February 7, 2007 4:08 PM
"The Islamic attitude to non-muslims is one of kindness and tollerance and brotherly concern"
Fine. Let's show this demented creature the qualities she believes in, as stated in the quorancid.
Here are your options maryam
Convert/pay a back breaking tax/ be killed.
Oh, and seeing as your a woman {?}, matbe you'd also enjoy being treated the way muslim scum tend to treat human {non- mooslime} women before being killed. ie, pack raped
at February 7, 2007 7:28 PM
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