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February 8, 2007

Lebanese army fire on Israeli bulldozer near border

Act of war. "Lebanese army fire on Israeli bulldozer near border: TV," from Xinhua, with thanks to Mackie:

The Lebanese army fired at an Israeli bulldozer when it was trying to cross a border area late Wednesday night, Lebanese Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV station reported.

The report quoted Lebanese military officials as saying that their troops opened fire with machine guns on an Israeli bulldozer after the vehicle crossed a southern border area and entered about 20 yards into Lebanon.

There was no report of casualties, it added.

Earlier on Wednesday, Israel's Army Radio reported that Lebanese troops fired on Israeli forces as they scoured the area for bombs planted by Hezbollah guerillas.

On Monday, Israeli army said it had discovered four explosive devices that had recently been planted by Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas but the Shiite group denied the allegation, saying that the bombs were planted before outbreak of the 34-day conflict with the Jewish state on July 12.

Oh. That makes it all right.

Posted by Robert at February 8, 2007 12:25 AM
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Lebanese army staffed by Hezbollah. Army of God my butt. They're nothing but a bunch of gangsters. Where's the Wyatt Earp of the middle east. Is there not one leader in any country in that part of the world, or Europe for that matter, that has had enough of seemingly civil countries being split in two and then swallowed by militant Islam. It's INSANITY that they cannot see it. Appeasement is nothing more than acceptance of defeat.

What in the world is the threat from a bull dozer? Are they afraid Israel was coming to pave their streets and lead them out of the stone age? Dumb a$$es.

Posted by: RollingThunder [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 1:01 AM

The nothing left to lose are going berserk.
No pity!

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 1:11 AM

I just saw this myself. Here's a little more detailed account from the AP.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/ISRAEL_LEBANON?SITE=CAWHI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-02-07-22-27-57

And what is this? We gave Lebanese Security Forces 60 new Ford Explorers?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/photos/B/BEI10202071624.html?SITE=CAWHI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Posted by: flyingcarpetdust [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 1:17 AM

Agression as usual
Israel will face a big defeat if they don't react properly to this kind of agressions. Every strike on Israel is a motivation for the muselmans and a step further towards its destruction.

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 1:31 AM

And if the lebanese army doesn't knock it off, olmert & peretz will be forced to release some terrorist prisoners, give up Judea and Samaria and half of Yerushalayim, put up a fifth minaret on the Temple Mount, and completely destroy the Holy Land from within...oh, wait, they're already doing that.

Never mind.

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 1:48 AM

India enjoys not only the luxurious status of islam's victim but also that of an adamantine dhimmi who refuses to learn. The following writeup would be edifying for the West. Sorry for posting it from Daily Pioneer without much pruning, as the link very often does not work. What applies to pukistan applies to the entire muslim brotherhood.

"The pullback syndrome

Accommodation beyond a point by India may not help, it hasn't during the last 59 years and will demoralise the Army, says Proloy Bagchi

I happened to be in Kargil in September 1968. From the lawns of the brigade mess there one couldn't really miss the towering presence of a tall mountain - named "13620" because that was its elevation and, shockingly, it was in Pakistani occupation. In fact, it was handed back to them under the Tashkent Agreement after being captured in the 1965 war.

.. sitting up on those commanding heights, the Pakistanis could take potshots at every thing down below... even from the foot of this mountain, while approaching Kargil from Leh, the supremely-vulnerable brigade establishments stretched out in front. No wonder the day it was handed back, the major, who, I was told, lost many of his brave men in capturing the peak, wept like a child.

He had every reason to! After all, those courageous men fearlessly faced enemy bullets while clawing up the forbidding feature to dislodge them from those heights. The return under the Tashkent Agreement of 200 square miles of the captured Pakistani territory wouldn't have hurt so much as the 'pullback' from the strategic gains such as the "13620" peak and the Haji Peer pass - freed at great human cost from the illegal Pakistani occupation.

But this has been our wont, a kind of a syndrome - 'the pullback syndrome'. Hasn't somebody said that we always lost in negotiations with Pakistan whatever we had won on the battle field?.. after the 1962 debacle,.. we offered, in negotiations during 1962-63, withdrawal from the 1948 ceasefire line - to which the Pakistanis were pushed back after loss of hundreds of brave soldiers - to suit the latter's strategic needs. In addition, 1,500 square miles of Jammu & Kashmir territory were offered to make the deal look "substantial". Mercifully, it fell through as, Z. Ali Bhutto kept demanding the entire Kashmir Valley.


The 1965 War was not of our making, and likewise, the one of 1971, too, wasn't. And, on both the occasions the adversary was defeated. Yet, every time in post-war negotiations, far from inflicting punishing reparations on the enemy, we came out losers. In post-1971 negotiations, we were conned by a crafty Bhutto into signing the Shimla Agreement under which we allowed the 93,000 Pakistani prisoners-of-war to go home and pulled our troops back from 5,139 square miles of captured Pakistani territory, letting go of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity of applying the closure on the vexed question of Jammu & Kashmir.

The withdrawal from Siachen, however, is being contemplated in the pursuit of peace. Backing off from those frozen heights, held by our forces with exceptional tenacity, fortitude, bravery and sacrifice, in the chase of a peace that, at best, will be uncertain, tenuous and fragile is ominous and disquieting.

Siachen can be, in the words of the Prime Minister, a "mountain of peace" only if Pakistan plays ball. The question is, will it? We are all too familiar with its antics - chicanery, underhandedness, et al. Quintessentially double-faced, treacherous and duplicitous, Pakistan carries no baggage of credibility. So, we have to tread carefully, for treacherous is the way up to the "mountain of peace".

Posted by: Crows&Cows [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 3:12 AM

60 new Ford Explorers?-----Nobody over here will take them. Who wants a Ford anything these days?
Can anyone tell me the P.C. decision the Ford family made awhile back that has caused about 100,000 Americans to not buy a Ford this year. It has caused Ford Motor Co. to lose Billions this last year. Boy, being P.Correct is getting expensive these days. The reality of the situation is choosing to be cursed instead of choosing to be blessed.

Posted by: guide inside [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 5:04 AM

If they did cross the border into Lebanon, didn't the Lebanese military have a right to open fire? Or am I missing something?

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 6:01 AM

Between the mine field violation and crossing into "no man's land", both sides has to stop violations. Now, as for Ford's; you still need gas to run-em; better get to work and do somthing positive with the remaining investments, or poverty will come knocking harder on your door !

Posted by: Jeff [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 6:31 AM

MUST READ LEBANON HIZBULLAH vs IDF BULLDOZER STORY---->>>

By the way, here's an excerpt from the Week on how Hezbollah plays murderous games along the Blue Line (from the January 30, 2006 issue):

In January 2004, Hezbollah planted five camouflaged "improvised explosive devices" (IED's) inches on the Israeli side of the border with Lebanon, fifteen miles inland from the Mediterranean coast. Israeli troops detected the IED's and notified (as per the truce agreement in effect since the end of the 1967 Six Days' War) the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), "peacekeepers." A UNIFIL engineer certified the existence of this gross violation of the truce, and "requested" that Hezbollah remove the bombs. Hezbollah declined, stating that as the mines were (just barely) inside the "Zionist" border, Israel could perform the removal itself. The IDF dispatched an armored bulldozer to carry the mines off for safe disposal. This required making a 90-degree turn from the Israeli access to the narrow border trail. Slowly making this turn, the left front corner of the Israeli bulldozer unavoidably had to occupy, for a couple of seconds, about one cubic meter of air space on the Lebanese side of the "blue line" between the two countries. During those seconds a Hezbollah fighter launched an anti-tank missile at the narrow windshield of the bulldozer. The pinpoint strike, which our Israeli sources concede required uncommon training and skill, killed the 21-year-old Russian immigrant driving the bulldozer, Jan Rotzanski. This diabolical murder was widely celebrated by Hezbollah as a confirmation of its desire to kill "Zionists" on any pretext. IDF Northern Command soldiers remain embittered by this killing (and by UNIFIL's indifference to it) eighteen months later. * On June 29, 2005, an elite Hezbollah team equipped with high-tech optical gear (cameras, binoculars and night-vision equipment) penetrated into Israel from Lebanon to kidnap Israelis, whom Hezbollah planned to torture and kill, eventually exchanging their corpses for imprisoned terrorists in Israel. Intercepted by an Israeli border patrol, the team opened fire and ordered mortar rounds lobbed from Lebanon onto the Israeli defenders. Two of the three Hezbollah terrorists were killed or wounded, as was one Israeli officer. * The Katyusha rockets launched at American ships and at the neighboring town of Eilat, Israel from the Jordanian port of Aqaba, on August 19, were likely shipped to that country by Hezbollah, which has cornered the world market on Katyushas.

(from National Review on line)

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 6:53 AM

Psych-operations and guerilla operations are the required responses in asymetrical warfare

and little restraint, and the George Patton dictum: an imperfect plan executed today is worth far more than a better plan in the future.

Audace, toujours l'audace.

Get with it Wahington and Tel Aviv.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 10:32 AM

Supercop,

From the yahoo news article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070207/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_lebanon

my understanding is: In that area, the Israeli constructed border fence is several dozen yards within Israel from the UN demarcated international border. The hisballah mines were planted within Israeli territory, but on the outside of the fence. Israeli troops remained within Israel while they cleared the mines.

The Israeli Army said: " 'The [Israeli] bulldozers crossed the heavily guarded border fence but remained inside Israeli territory, which extends north of the fence in that area' ".

"Lebanese officials", however, assert that the Israelis crossed into Lebanon while they were clearing the mines.

The Israeli Army has more credibility than unnamed "Lebanese officials", who are covering for hisballah.

Posted by: del [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2007 11:23 AM

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