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February 9, 2007

Britain Unveiled - "20 years too late"

More on this story: "Our mosques are importing jihad" by Mary Ann Sieghart in The Times of London.

It is apparent that Ms Khan is more Briton than Muslim, and Allah be praised for that.

Gina Khan is a very brave woman. Born in Birmingham 38 years ago to Pakistani parents, she has run away from an arranged marriage, dressed herself in jeans and dared to speak out against the increasing radicalisation of her community.

“There are mosques springing up on every street corner,” she says, pointing them out to me as we drive to her tiny house in Birmingham, near the district where nine men were arrested last week on suspicion of plotting to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier. Two suspects have since been released without charge.
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Over the past 15 years, she says, there has been an influx of jihadist thinking into her part of Birmingham. Bookshops sell radical literature and the mosques preach separatism and hatred. The Government and the white Establishment have allowed it to happen. And she is outraged about it. “It’s all happening on your doorstep,” she says, “and Britain is still blind to the real threat that is embedded here now.

“I truly believe that all these mosques here are importing jihad. The radical teaching is filtering through, and these mosques are not regulated. They are supporting everything that is wrong about Islam. We within the community knew this. People are lying. They are in denial. They knew they were bringing in radicals.

“But there are still more English and British people, no matter what, and if they got together and wanted to stamp out this radicalism, they could. I am wasting my time talking to my own people; that is why I am sitting here talking to you, to open your eyes.”

Khan is particularly worried about how mosques are brainwashing children and young people: “To me, it is starting to look like a cult.” And her local community certainly seems to be in denial. “After the raid I went to the corner shop here, and they were all saying it was a conspiracy. I turned round and said, ‘No, it is not. Let us be honest’.

“They say we’re being victimised. We’re not. The truth is coming out at last, but it’s 20 years too late.”

Is it not astonishing that we hear this not from a member of the British government or of its security services but from a member of the Muslim community? Is there anyone not asleep at the switch over there?

Three issues in particular enrage her: forced or arranged marriages for teenage girls, polygamy and the veil. Khan herself was pressurised into marriage at the age of 16 by her father, against her mother’s wishes. “I was manipulated by my dad’s side of the family into a teen marriage — you know, you are a passport for someone from Pakistan. My mum wanted me to study and make something of my life because she knew what this country had to offer.”

Khan married and became pregnant, but after her baby died she says that she suffered terrible postnatal depression and left the marriage. Her family disowned her, as did the Muslim community. “Where is the support in the community for women?” she asks. “Where is it? It is not here. The best thing you can do is go to the social services.” She is full of praise for the instruments of the British state: social services, the police, job centres. If she were prime minister, she says, the first thing she would do is ban teen marriages. “They are still being pulled out of the local girls school here and taken back home, aged 16 or 17, not allowed to get an education. These girls are so young, they can be manipulated by their family’s culture and religion. They don’t have a chance. To wait until they are 25 or so would make more sense.”

Maybe the Conservatives should give David Cameron the heave-ho and make Ms Khan leader of the opposition.

The mosques, she says, collude in these marriages, as they do in the informal polygamy that she claims is rife in Muslim communities. “It is still very, very common here, polygamy. This is Pakistan I have just brought you back into,” she says, gesturing at the streets of terraced and semidetached houses. ...

So, although polygamy is illegal in Britain, it is still, says, Khan, being practised with a Muslim seal of approval. The “marriages”, after all, are being sanctioned in the mosques. “My mum would turn in her grave if she knew Sharia was here. This is England, how can this be happening, how in this country? People in Pakistan are fighting for it not to happen there.” Khan is also vociferous on the subject of the veil, which is not, she says, a religious requirement: “It’s a 7th-century garment that should not be in this country.” In places like Pakistan, where there is little protection by the police from sexual harassment, she can see the point of it, but not here.

Of course, it is a 7th century garment but one with full Islamic authority:

"Oh Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters, and wives and daughters of the believers, to extend their outer garments around themselves, so that they would be distinguished and not molested. And God is All-Forgiving, All-Merciful." (Koran, 33:59)

"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons ... " etc., etc. (Koran 24:31)

Don't blame the 7th century, blame Islam.

Having banned teen marriages and the veil, cracked down on polygamy and ensured women’s representation in mosques, Khan’s next priority as prime minister would be to get rid of faith schools and teach Britishness more effectively. Although her children are taught well at an excellent Catholic school, she fears that Muslim schools exacerbate separatism. “Britishness should be compulsory in schools, taught by English teachers. And we should let kids know how valuable their British passports are around the world.” ...

“Compared with Third World countries, compared with every Muslim country, we Muslims are a lot safer here, I know that still. I would not want to leave and move to Pakistan or anywhere on my own as a woman with a grown daughter. I know that now, though it may have taken me a lifetime to realise it. I am so lucky to have been born here.

“We are women, we are treated equally here. If I am raped or sexually abused, the cruellest things that can happen to a woman and leave a residue on your life, this is a country that supports you. I do not have to hide. They are going to help me, give me counselling. What are they going to do in a Muslim country? Stone me. I need four witnesses. They are going to ostracise me, as if I am dirty.”
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“Muslim women aren’t suppose to make waves. I didn’t even hear my own screams and tears for 34 years. I have now stepped back and decided to understand and challenge my religion.”

"Challenge my religion" - precisely.

Posted by Greg at February 9, 2007 1:09 PM
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I fear for Ms. Khan's life. This much truth will not sit well with the Islamics. The Islamic gangsters are probably targeting her right now.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:18 PM

Perhaps this is the key-Muslim women in the West sick of the creeping sharia standing up to all the madness. If they unite, Islamania might finally be somewhat neutered (in the West at least). They are a far better hope to stop the slide into Islamic madness than the useless "leaders" we in the West must endure with their "all is well" mentality. After all, they are a big victim of sharia and know all about how wonderful it really is so maybe, just maybe there is some hope after all.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:23 PM

Begum Khan might be a few steps away from being the next Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

At a personal level, one might sympathize with her for losing her baby. But on closer inspection, had that not happened, her marriage would have stayed intact, she wouldn't have lost support of her family and the local ummah, and as a result, she wouldn't have discovered what's wrong with the ummah. What's worse: she would have ended up as another fast breeder reactor for the demographic Jihad.

As Greg says above, praise be to Allah (although Greg, we don't normally do that out here).

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:23 PM

My question is, how soon until we see the headline:

CRITIC OF ISLAM GUNNED DOWN IN BROAD DAYLIGHT

I fear the "religion of peace" will want the last word on this matter.

Posted by: rancorcrankor [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:33 PM

I had in mind my Arabic-speaking Christian friends who regularly praise Allah. No reason to surrender the language to Islam.

Posted by: Greg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:34 PM

"Praise be to ..." GAKKKK!!! I can't even type it.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:45 PM

I'd like Ms. Khan to tell us what is good about the Islam she refuses to abandon.

Posted by: remote_control [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 1:47 PM

Ms Khan and people like her are unfortunately one our best hopes. The reason I say unfortunately is that the ones who can change things are the most oppressed and mind screwed in this culture, women.

It was women in Ontario that shouted the loudest and had the implementation of Sharia stopped in Canada. It will have to be Muslim women all over the western world to stand up, or people will tune it out. Unfortunately women are also the problem, they on far too many occasions accept their status and buy into this ideology making it impossible to overcome.

This is not an unusual position for oppressed people, many that live under harsh oppression just accept things and say to themselves that "hey it's not that bad" and that's what we see here more and more.

Hopefully Ms Khan has an affect on more women in her community, because Ms. Khan is not going to be with us for very long I fear.

Niv

Posted by: The fanatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 2:12 PM

out of all the muslims polled over there who said they wanted sharia law, i wonder how many of them were women. i hope more woman come out as Ms. Khan has done and use their British given freedoms and rights to speak out. They have the most to lose of anyone.

Posted by: kelisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 2:20 PM

Ms. Khan is one brave woman. She's taking her life in her hands saying these things, given the growth of Islamism in the UK.

Hopefully she will open some eyes, though given the militant Dhimmitude of most people in the UK, one could be forgiven for being skeptical that any meaningful change will come.

Posted by: Proud Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 2:49 PM

Remote control said--"I'd like Mrs. Khan to tell us what is good about the Islam she refuses to abandon".

She might not abandon Islam because she is not aware of an alternative, or I should say THE alternative.

All of Briton and Europe has gone secular or apostate with many churches closed down, turned into bars and nightclubs, condos, and single residence dwellings. England and Europe have about 1% (more or less) church attendance, all due to mega P.C.!

They look at our President, a Christian, as something from outer space, a religious kook, driven to war by some bizaare religious, cultic, apocalyptic end time agenda.

Those of us that study end time prophecy in the Bible see this very clearly outlined.

Posted by: guide inside [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 3:16 PM

Bravo Ms. Khan. She calls it a cult; we could call it a ‘Corrupt Organization’:

Although the RICO Act can be used in many contexts, the statute is most easily understood in its intended context: the Mafia [substitute Islam]. In the context of the Maifa [Islam], the defendant person (i.e., the target of the RICO Act) is the Godfather [Imam or take your pick]. The "racketeering activity" is the criminal activities in which the Mafia [Islam] engages, e.g., extortion, bribery, loan sharking, murder, illegal drug sales, prostitution, etc. Because the Mafia family [Islam] has engaged in these criminal actions for generations, the criminal actions constitute a pattern of racketeering activity. The government can criminally prosecute the Godfather [Imam] under RICO and send him to jail even if the Godfather [Imam] has never personally killed, extorted, bribed or engaged in any criminal behavior.

Those ‘associated’ with the organization can also be locked up. The extortion and murders referenced do not need to actually happen, the threat alone is enough to complete the offence. The threat is established through the words of Muslim leaders. Repatriation could be offered as an alternative to jail time.

http://www.ricoact.com/ricoact/nutshell.asp

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 3:36 PM

Muslim women need to start throwing off the yoke of their masters! A good start would be to strip out of the veil. And I would be the first to volunteer to help them with that endeavor.

Posted by: S. Murphy II [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 3:44 PM

9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
-Extortion

5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
-Murder and More

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/5/index.htm

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 3:49 PM

The Grauniad and Independent will be up in arms at the dreadful islamophobia of this woman.

Oh hang on, she's a muslim. I guess they'll just ignore it then rather than address the uncomfortable issues raised.

Brave woman.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 4:00 PM

Good for you Ms.Khan. Take a deep breath and leave the evil cult, step into the freeworld. Good luck to you and your family.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 4:04 PM

Yes it seems only muslims are permitted and taken notice of by MSM when they speak out against Islam. Then they're targeted by other muslims so it's a win/lose situation for them. I think it will be the non muslim females in Western Europe and the Western world who are the key to stopping Islam encroaching incrementally into their lives as they're the ones who will experience what Islam has in store for them, earlier, in the form of the horrific clothing demands.

Posted by: cathkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 4:44 PM

If you want to feel sick, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG2t_rfZJA

It's a testimonial from Khadjia -- an adult woman convert in Britian. Notice how she blends in things familiar to Britons like "Christmas", "Jesus", "Christmas dinner" in some attempt to make Islam seem like an ecumenical cousin of the Anglican Church.

By God I think she really means what she says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG2t_rfZJA

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 5:01 PM

By God I think she really means what she says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG2t_rfZJA
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses February 9, 2007 05:01 PM

I like when she says Muslims don't believe in killing! Either Muslims get high on reading Cowran or they smoke something which penetrates their skull whenever they talk about Islam is a religion of peace.

I guess she can bladder what she wants till the cows return home, the fact is Muslims don't give a nickle when they kill innocents whether they're their own or not.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 5:19 PM

That Paki gal should write a book. She would make alot of money.

Posted by: callmeinfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 5:19 PM

'Gina Khan is a very brave woman'.

yes, and it is her Tony Blair should be inviting round to Number 10 for a cup of tea and some informative chat, not Bunglewallah etc.
and now that David Cameron seems to have woken up, maybe he should join them, he can take some biscuits (cookies) and a notepad, and get himself informed.

Posted by: M Al-Content [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 5:20 PM

"given the militant Dhimmitude of most people in the UK"

Absolute piffle -- it's the powers that be that could be described (sometimes) as dhimmi, not the majority of the people. And, by the way, how can you be a militant dhimmi?

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 5:30 PM

Gina Khan is a very brave gal.You might say a 'Death Defying one.'Hope she will survive to
gladden all our hearts.Unfortunately Muslim History is against her : Mo had that woman Poet[Asma] murdered whilst she slept with her children including baby at her breast.FEW DARE TO CRITICIZE ISLAM AND LIVE!

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 7:41 PM

When women work on reclaiming the lost part of themselves, they're also working on reclaiming the lost soul of the culture as well. - [ Maureen Murdock - author ]

Bless you, Ms. Khan.

Posted by: freedomschool [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 8:17 PM

“But there are still more English and British people, no matter what, and if they got together and wanted to stamp [this] out . . . , they could."
--Gina Khan


Better hurry, soon there will not be more English and British people than Moslems in the UK to be able to stop the Islamization of the UK.

Stopping all Moslem immigration, deporting all jihadists, those calling for jihad and shariah rule, and of course all imams preaching against a British-ruled UK.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 9:44 PM

ISLAMSFORLOSERS posted


"Perhaps this is the key-Muslim women in the West sick of the creeping sharia standing up to all the madness. If they unite, Islamania might finally be somewhat neutered (in the West at least)."


I hope this does happen but I fear we are to far down the road...the road to war within our own communities.

Do you really think muslim men will go quietly into the night (or light) of equality. Also there are enough demented muslim women who are brainwashed enough to defend the system. At most we can hope for a 25% defection of the female muslim population within western countries if lucky. I just don't think this can be ended by peaceful means. I will strive for peace but with a close eye on what is to come...."bleeding Kansas" on steriods.

I hope you are right however....make life much easier. I do however think without a doubt we must use this as an avenue to weaken Islamic communites by going after the women (esp. the young women). They have the most to gain by breaking with this system. A undergound railroad for muslim women must be put forward as a real possiblity and if our governments go really dhimmi and accept aspects of sharia law for areas this is a must.


Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 9:58 PM

If you want to feel sick, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG2t_rfZJA

"By God I think she really means what she says."

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at February 9, 2007 05:01 PM

Plague,

"Thanks" for the link. Repulsive resolve is the only thing that prevented me from vomiting immediately after watching that. Now I probably won't be able to sleep tonight, so "thanks" again for that.

By God, you are right, she does mean what she says, and that in and of itself, is the true tragedy. The summation of her life, up to 12 years ago, can only be elevated to semi-tragic status at best. Hopefully this is an exceptional example and not the rule. If Islam can, with some consistency, coerce a conversion from a Western educated, well spoken, non-Arabic, WOMAN, we are all dead in an expeditious manner.

OR

She could simply be starving for attention, donning the hijab to draw attention away from the fact that she is a "regular Joe" and considered mediocre at best, amongst her peers.


Please excuse me. The reality that either of those explanations are equally sad and nauseating, now compels me to step away from the PC(personal computer)....to be sick.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 11:15 PM

greg you wrote, "Is there anyone not asleep at the switch over there?"

"give us the tools and we will finish the job"

churchill.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 9, 2007 11:28 PM

Britain fights on the soils of Iraq against what they think are radical Muslim, and all the time Muslims grow and embed themselves in England with Mosques preaching separatism and hatred. The same is happening in France, America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada etc, so if Muslims are basically peaceful then why are mosques in all these countries and others allowed to be preaching hatred and separatism??? Why do their own not stop them???? there is only one answer....

Posted by: Gaye [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 6:50 AM

Greg, you said...I had in mind my Arabic-speaking Christian friends who regularly praise Allah. No reason to surrender the language to Islam.

Greg, no real Christian will praise Allah. They are giving praise to a moon god, and part of an evil deceptive cult... and I sure dont know what you mean by saying that there is no reason to surrender the language to Islam...

Posted by: Gaye [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 7:15 AM

It's a very sad thing to see the British sit back passivly and give their culture away to a bunch of vile beings.

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 7:56 AM

"It's a very sad thing to see the British sit back passivly and give their culture away to a bunch of vile beings."

Armchair smugness again, no doubt from over the water. What makes you think they are "sitting back passively"? For example, in an area of the West Midlands, where it is proposed to build a mosque and "community centre" (which community?), 2000 signatures have been collected for a petition against the planning application, and the local papers are full of letters opposing the plan, and in very forthright terms.

So let's have less talk about "the British", shall we?

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 8:19 AM

Roughie:

The BNP. Now where's my cookies?

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 9:58 AM

folk on here talk about the british national party winning the next elections and ending islam in the UK. dream on guys, nick griffin will either be assassinated long before the elections, by either the ultra left wing or by one of their islamo-fascist stooges. and really, once in power you think that the EU will allow the UK to break away. Austria tried their right wing experiment, haders freedom party. Austria was heavily economically blockaded by the EU, the BNP sadly has no chance of survival within the EU, unless it departed from this socialist entity, or unless europe becomes right wing.

Griffin has already survived one major court challange in the UK and one bomb assassination attempt in socialist sweden. the muslims will be left to finish the job, unimpeded by their marxist brethren.

as for the british fighting back? yes we whisper behind closed doors, in pubs we tact with bravado but when in public we act like dhimmi sheep.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 10:06 AM

Isn't "angry muslim" redundant?...sigh..

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 2:05 PM

"The vast majority of Brits ARE sitting-back passively. I'm English and can guarantee that this is the case"

And what are you doing? Canvassing for the BNP? I consider that in the same a league as the droves of Germans in the thirties who turned to Hitler as the only way of defeating the "red menace". No, voting for an odious anti-Semitic fascist party is not the answer. I want to preserve liberal democracy, for all its faults.

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 2:53 PM

What a GAL! She has got more balls than everyone in The House of Commons combined! Rock on Gina! Speak truth to the evil power!


----Nossy

Posted by: Nostrodamus [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2007 3:03 PM

Rougie,

- "You're just scaremongering. You can't just say "They have expressed anti-Semitism, so therefore that automatically makes them Nazis"."

If a party today expresses anti-Semitism, there is something seriously wrong with it, as Jews are no threat to anyone except islamist supremacists. You just can't argue away the BNP's visceral racism (and it IS racism).

- "But you know why I still vote for them? - Because I don't have a bloody choice."

Exactly my point about the rise of Hitler. Of course you've got a choice -- argue anti-islamism from a rational point of view, not fall into the arms of the fascists. That is the duty of democrats. Take a leaf from Robert's and Hugh's book.

- "Even though you're a left-wing Ken Livingstone clone..."

This is absolutely laughable (and personally offensive). I am not left-wing and detest Livingstone. I regard myself as a conservative English patriot, but will have no truck with fascism because I allegedly "don't have a choice". The smear, by the way, is a typically fascist/communist one -- "if you don't agree with me, you're a communist/fascist" (mutatis mutandis).

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 11, 2007 8:24 AM

"Plus, I don't care if I offend or smear you. It's called a bloody insult - Grow some skin and live with it, you liberal pansy."

Ah, there speaks the true fascist. Point made, and no further discussion necessary. I was going to argue my point further, but, as you say, "You cannot argue rationally with irrational people". You're not exactly a good advertisement for the BNP, are you?

Posted by: JFGR [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 11, 2007 2:57 PM
So, although polygamy is illegal in Britain

Tell that to the Guardianistas in social services, who have, for many, many years now actively acquiesced in the spread of (islamic) polygamy in the UK, all of course, in the name of wonderful multi-culturalism.

Social services, local councils, and many government departments accept (islamic) polygamy. I would be interested to see how they felt if we had a small mormon community in the UK, perhaps then we would see them for the racists they genuinely are.

Posted by: thomas ato [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 12, 2007 5:21 AM

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