If Pakistan complains the answer should be the same as they give regarding scum operating on their territory: "Attacks on Pakistan? What attacks? We don't attack places that have no enemy troops-you say there's no Taliban there so why would we attack"?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at February 12, 2007 11:00 AM

Assalamu Laikum all,

This situation is unaceptable...it is like mexico shelling the Amerike...would you accept this situation.

I have heard that you have satellite tech that spot a number plate from Space...so why not use that to spot the Taliban when in Afgistan ...and then do your attacks if you must.

Pak made a peace deal with Taliban...we do not have the amerike firepower or advanced technology for mountain warfare...what is the point of our jawans bleeding.

I admit that this is a problem ...but shelling a soverign tribal area is not the answer.

Posted by: Naseem at February 12, 2007 11:57 AM

“We’re in the middle of two wars.” — Wrong!

Posted by: Foehammer at February 12, 2007 12:19 PM

@Naseem:

"This situation is unaceptable...it is like mexico shelling the Amerike...would you accept this situation."

We seem to accept an invasion, I don't think a few artillery rounds from the Mexican military is even going to make us flinch at this point.

I hope to one day be proven very wrong on that point.

Posted by: Foehammer at February 12, 2007 12:21 PM

Very promising indeed. If Pakistan was the ally it stated it was none of this would be neccessary. However we all know that it was this government that created the Taliban and it was not serious in its destruction.

Niv

Posted by: The fanatic at February 12, 2007 12:34 PM

"Pak made a peace deal with Taliban"

...and just why is this so....If you agree to fight terrorists and terrorist organizations...why do you agree to leave them alone?...Makes one think you are on the side of the terrorists or that you have a secret agenda...(which, of course , is not so secret).

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 12, 2007 12:46 PM

"but shelling a soverign tribal area is not the answer. "

....attacking the enemy who is constantly attacking you is always a good policy....no matter where you find them....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 12, 2007 12:47 PM

What a plank Naseem. The US isn't being shelled from Mexico, and isn't likely to be in the future, and your country couldn't possibly be a bigger craphole if nukes were dropped on it - but then it is a Muslim country and that explains everything.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at February 12, 2007 1:00 PM

Col. John Nicholson said, "rather than halt such incursions, the peace deal has led to a substantial increase."

Big surprise -- that a terrorist organization would ignore a peace agreement. They don't want peace, so why would anyone be so stupid to think that they do by making "peace deals".

Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: champ at February 12, 2007 1:02 PM

Naseem -- pack your bags, it's time to evacuate.

Posted by: champ at February 12, 2007 1:04 PM

Big deal. A few token artillery rounds is not going to stop the Taliban. Now a devastating bombardment with thousands of cannon and mortars and wave after wave of high-powered airstrikes is what we need! That would do some damage and really hurt 'em! This sadly looks like another attempt by the walking, empty suits of Washington to continue to fight a "politically correct" war from thousands of miles away. It is another sad attempt to avoid doing anything that may upset the Pakis yet still try to masquerade that we are actually fighting. We don't need LBJ's "Rolling Thunder." We need Nixon's "Linebacker 2." Firing a few potshots will succeed in accomplishing nothing except to make us look weak and impotent.....again.

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at February 12, 2007 1:21 PM

Big surprise -- that a terrorist organization would ignore a peace agreement.

Actually its really two terrorist organizations, though only one has been yet declared as such. The Islamic Pakistani Government is as much a terrorist organization as the Taliban. If anything, the Pakistani Government, with its hands on the Islamic bomb, is an even more dangerous organization than the Taliban.

Posted by: Razdan at February 12, 2007 1:28 PM

I love Naseem's new political concept -the 'sovereign tribal area'. The Pakistan government's writ has never run in those hell-holes any more than did that of the British Raj. If they can't rule an area why should anyone respect their demands to treat it as part of the Pakistani state? The tribal districts are practically independent countries in their own right.
The Brits at least considered pacifying the area but decided that casualties, given the nature of the terrain and opposition, would run to ten or twenty thousand and the game wasn't worth the candle. I suspect the reason the Pakistan government hasn't decided to become a normal unitary state and rule the districts properly has less to do with the military cost than with the fact that in the course of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries the area became virtually holy ground in the cause of Islamic jihad - second only to Mecca and Medina, for some.
It's as though soldiers not wearing uniform, pursuing their own individual campaigns, not under government officers and making up their own rules of engagement had to be treated as though they were the same as the Pakistani army!

Posted by: wallyUK at February 12, 2007 1:34 PM

Yay Yay Yay This is good news.
Finally a little wake up.
And hey Naseem all your blabbering is shit because you know it as well as world knows it that terrorists hide in pakistan safely and all your Muslims help them directly and indirectly.

And you guys put up an act of bieng victim.!!!!!!

Pakistan does same thing on both sides of border i.e in Kashmir as well as Afghanistan and play a double game. But sooner or later the world will stop buying your false claims.

I hope even India does the same because you guys are playing dirty games with 2 sleeping giants on either side of border and someday soon they are gonna wake uo and crush you guys and stop your double games.

Dont worry Naseem ,that time is coming soon.

Hey if u guys get nuked in future and you cease to exist I want you know It was no fun talking to you and you were as irritable a person as any muslim is.

Dont want you under the impression that people respect you.

Yaya ya ya yaa go USA go bomb them deep enough soon.

Posted by: Indiana_jones at February 12, 2007 1:51 PM

Army Col. John W. Nicholson, commander of the 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, said in an Associated Press interview that "rather than halt such incursions, the peace deal has led to a substantial increase."

Another shining example of the way Islamists enter into a truce, as thoroughly documented in Robert's books.

As per the Qur'an, followers of Islam are not permitted to enter into a truce unless it directly benefits Islam or allows Islamists time to regroup for another attack.

Their strict adherence to Islam, with peaceful dawa being conspicuously absent, is a benefit in that it provides example after example of the predicitability of those within the "camp of Islam".

Posted by: awake at February 12, 2007 1:56 PM

YOU GUYS got to read this.
Just and example of what the moderate muslim thinks and supports indirectly while ever so denying their support for the jihadis.
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?168700

Posted by: Indiana_jones at February 12, 2007 2:03 PM

YOU GUYS got to read this.
Just and example of what the moderate muslim thinks and supports indirectly while ever so denying their support for the jihadis.
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?168700

sorry i dont know how to create a link but if u cut copy paste it the meassge should get through

Posted by: Indiana_jones at February 12, 2007 2:05 PM

AND YOU GUYS DEFINETLY must read this.
Just and example of life under Islamic law and I hope those politician and people calling Islam a religion of peace and supporting it by saying it is not bad read this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6354803.stm
This is just an example of kind of freedom Islam allows or should I say complete lack of freedom

Posted by: Indiana_jones at February 12, 2007 2:09 PM

l have a better idea, US coalation forces bomb the pakis on the afgan border, and India can bomb the paks on the Kasmir boders, get rid of islamist on boths sides.. soon poor naseems will be able to walk around withhout her potato sack!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at February 12, 2007 2:16 PM

Does anybody see the Trojan horse attitude in both of these conflicts; Iraq and Afghanistan ?
Go ahead America, keep sleeping and the threat will be on our doorstep again.

Posted by: Jeff at February 12, 2007 2:24 PM

Naseem

:)

Good news!

We won't sleep walk forever....Pakistan will get theirs for 9-11 one day!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at February 12, 2007 2:55 PM

"The thought that Pakistan was our ally was, and always has been, a joke. that same joke includes Saudi Arabia."

So when will President Bush get the joke? Or has it been on US the entire time? He STILL thinks these two countries are our friends.
Did you see Saudi Arabia's peacemaking efforts - between HAMAS and FATAH!! Let's get all Muslims on the same page. We can't fight Israel if we fight amongst ourselves. (That's some peace!)

Posted by: PMK at February 12, 2007 3:13 PM

It's Cambodia all over again. Guerrillas using a neutral country as a safe haven from which to attack American forces. Nixon caught hell from Democrats for going into Cambodia. George Bush going into Pakistan? See the Democrats implode!!

Let's see how they "support the troops" this time.

Posted by: PMK at February 12, 2007 3:17 PM

Isnt this going to create a surge of recruits for these militants by young nationalistic pakistanis?

If any pakistanis are here please comment.

(excluding you nassem if thats where your from)

Posted by: BlowHammed at February 12, 2007 3:17 PM

.. soon poor naseems will be able to walk around withhout her potato sack!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at February 12, 2007 02:16 PM

Now that's funny! :)

Posted by: A.I. Steamroller at February 12, 2007 3:54 PM

I can personally attest that this is not the first time we have used artillery to strike targets on the Paki side of the border, hasn't happened often enough, but it has happened before. I agree with a previous poster about starting a version of "Linebacker I & II." Negotiating with any of these cretins is pointless in the first place since it implies the other party has sufficient honor and integrity to keep their word.

It is funny to look into the eyes of one of these hapless recruits from the Madrassas (if he has survived) that has crossed over the border to wage "Jihad" against the "infidels" Especially when he is sitting on his ass beside a road, hands tie-wrapped behind his back, blubbering about all his dead friends. It wasn't like the TB recruiters said it would be - American soldiers being cowards and all - running from the brave "Jihadis." They cross the border into Afghanistan with a head full of BS about their own capabilities, purpose and eventual rewards from Allah and a laughable level of training. The reality is that they ALWAYS lose against American firepower once they engage.

Posted by: IOWarrrior at February 12, 2007 3:58 PM

Naseem

If those tribal areas are sovereign, you should have no problems with them being bombed. Anyway, you've been attacked by Kafirs - you're not going to stand for that, are you? You have nukes - show us what you're made of. Send some towards Bagram and other places.

The houris are waiting.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 12, 2007 6:43 PM