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The Shi'ites, according to Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim, are even worse than (gasp) the Zionists! The fervid conspiracy theorists are beginning to trip over their Protocols. "London-Based Syrian-Born Historian Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim on Al-Jazeera: Iran Established Global Shiite Government, Operating in Accordance with the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom, to Annihilate the Sunnis," from MEMRI:
The following are excerpts from an interview with Syrian-born historian Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 30, 2007.TO VIEW THIS CLIP: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1380.
Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim: "We consider the Zionist plan to be dangerous to the Arab nation, but even more dangerous is the Safavid Sassanian Iranian plan to restore the Empire of Cyrus, which would range from Greece to Egypt, and the Arabian Peninsula, in addition to other regions. The Zionist plan was unable to penetrate the ranks of Islamic unity, the way the Safavid Iranian plan did. The collaborators with the Zionists throughout the Arab and Islamic world are too ashamed to reveal themselves, while the collaborators with the Sassanian Safavid plan boast about it in public. Wasn't it one of their leaders who said yesterday: 'We are a Lebanon in Iran, and an Iran in Lebanon?'"
[...]
"While the Zionist plan targets Jerusalem, which is holy to us, the Safavid plan targets Mecca and Al-Madina. If you go back to their books - which they do not mention in the media, yet these books exist and are accepted by them - they claim that their Hidden Imam will come to Mecca and Al-Madina, destroy the Al-Haram Mosque and the Mosque of the Prophet, and dig in the graves of Abu Bakr and Omar and burn them both, and then he will command the wind to blow them away. He will also dig in the grave of Aisha, the Mother of the Believers, and will execute her. All this is part of their plan."
[...]
"The Shah was most definitely one of the sworn enemies of the Arabs, but he did not legislate a law to persecute the Sunni Muslims, who constitute one-third of the Iranian population. The new Iranian constitution persecutes Sunni Muslims in Iran, while it gives constitutional rights to the Zoroastrians, the Jews, and the Christians. This constitution denies the Sunnis these rights. There is no Sunni mosque in Tehran, even though there are over two million Sunni Muslims there."
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"All these actions are part of the 50-year plan of the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom. This plan has been published and is well known. It aims to infiltrate the Sunni Muslim countries, to annihilate them, and to sow civil strife between the ruler and his subjects, all within fifty years."
[...]
"Listen to the following secret communiqué: 'At the command and with the guidance of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Guide of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, and under the title 'The Shi'a of Ali Are Victorious,' the extended conference of the world's Shiites was held in the holy city of Qom. It was attended by the leaders of all Shiite parties and religious authorities. The conference decided that a global organization must be established to annihilate the people who are left, to examine and analyze the current regional situation, to build a military force, to infiltrate governmental institutions through the women's organizations everywhere, and then to infiltrate intelligence agencies, and to finish off the Sunni leaders, even by assassination.' This is the plan of the Hashashin, which still exists.
[...]
"While the American target is economic oil, the Iranian Persian goal is to massacre the Arabs, as is evident in all their writings."
Posted by Robert at February 20, 2007 9:35 PM
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I LOVE IT! To borrow an old Russ Meyer movie title: "Faster, Islamic Pussycat, Kill! Kill!"
Islam, souped up on oil money is going 200 miles per hour but it has no brakes. What a crash it's gonna be! Gee, I'm trying to decide who's holier: Al Qaeda or Hezbullah.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at February 20, 2007 10:02 PM
"While the Zionist plan targets Jerusalem, which is holy to us, the Safavid plan targets Mecca and Al-Madina."
I would like to know more about this plan. Perhaps you could show me a sample?
Thank you,
C. Bogle
at February 20, 2007 10:03 PM
What if all the worlds Christians just decided one day to start "annihilatin" folks. Just get us one of them there "massacree's" going ourselves.
Two groups on this mud ball are growing at a faster rate than any others. Christianity and Islam. Each over a billion adherants, with Christianity bigger and growing faster than Islam.
You probably thought Islam was bigger and growing faster, didnt you? Maybe the difference is we arent killing ourselves like Islam is.
Remember, the number one killer of Muslims is other Muslims.
The Shias might outnumber the Sunni's in Iraq and currently have the government but most who live there say the Sunni's are much more vicious, almost beyond belief.
There they go again, talking about the hidden Imammi. This time talking about him digging up dead ones and "killing" them again! I guess several hundred years at the bottom of a well will do that to you.
Posted by: guide inside
at February 20, 2007 10:16 PM
Finally some good news! ...Or is it? Either way, we know where it all will end. They will both blame the jews and the US for having triggered them to fight against each other.
But until then, I just want to sit back and enjoy watching them destroy each other. Since the West are doing nothing to curb the islamists, perhaps they can do it themselves.
That would be an ironic twist of fate.
Posted by: Spencer_Rules!
at February 20, 2007 10:29 PM
Oldie But a Goodie:
"Take every opportunity to allow Muslim natures --the natural aggression, the easy recourse to tribal and group warfare, solved only when a despot comes to power -- to take their course. Allow, by refusing to intervene, the growth and evolution of those attitudes that arise naturally in societies suffused with Islam. It's cost-effective. It's untroubling to observe.
It's most instructive for those outside Infidels who need yet another Demonstration Project in the nature of Islam, and of states and peoples on Islam.
Posted by: Hugh at November 21, 2006 10:03 PM
Posted by: Malinois
at February 20, 2007 10:37 PM
True, with Saudi money and Sunni people the Saudis can take out Iran with only $15 billion. Heck, they are not America; life is far cheaper as a weapon to them (monetary wise) than military equipment. Yep, it is becoming very clear to me why there is all of this tension over there. The Shiites are cornered that if they don’t make progress in the ME, they are pretty much doomed by their wealthier counterparts.
The only thing I see that is keeping Sunni from kicking Shiite ass once and for all is oil, devil water or black gold. This is in the interest of Western countries, not so much their own: as I’m sure the gulf countries are swimming in cash that they don’t know what to do with.
at February 20, 2007 10:50 PM
when islamist run out of enemies, they turn on each other.. from what we see it does not take much for them to kill each other!. so much for the religion of peace.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at February 20, 2007 10:58 PM
If only!
Posted by: sceptico
at February 20, 2007 11:01 PM
Don't want to rain on your parade people, but this is just the start of a public campaign to justify the acquisition of nuclear weapons in the Sunni Muslim world to match Iran.
Those weapons may eventually be used against anyone.
Posted by: Cornelius
at February 20, 2007 11:07 PM
lets help to get the war going and stand back and watch......let loose the dogs of war........
we can then deal with the winner.............
at February 20, 2007 11:10 PM
Operating in Accordance with the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom
Ah yes, but never fear, the Sunnis are operating in accordance with the Protocol of the Muftis of Riyadh. The Buddhists are operating in accordance with the Protocols of the Lamas of Tibet...
Fiends, all! Conspiracies abound! The sky is falling!
Posted by: Archimedes2
at February 20, 2007 11:18 PM
I hope this is true!
Many people have said they are not united. Muslims vary from place to place.
If they go at each other let's pray both sides win: total victory, and perhaps they can leave us alone.
If necessary it could be a good reason for muslims in the west to return to their muslim homelands and start again.
If that ever happens we will know better than to let them back into our backyards.
I just hope it isn't a ploy to fool us all.
at February 20, 2007 11:18 PM
what goes around comes around...
you reap what you sow....
Well, the Golden Rule is looking pretty good right now to the Sunnis I bet. Too bad there is no Golden Rule (do unto others as you would have them do unto to you....treat people as the way you would like to be treated) in islam, isn't it?
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical
at February 20, 2007 11:20 PM
The entire poisonous cauldron will come to a boil if America leaves Iraq today, or next year, or the year after that -- it matters not.
It only makes good sense to leave swiftly and completely, leaving as little behind as possible. Save the lives of as many Americans as possible.
And then do the right thing and cut off all funding of any sort to virtually all of the Islamic states or groups. The only ones who seem to appreciate anything are the Kurds.
They have been well-armed already and now, with at least five or six mad dog Islamic terrorist organizations divided between the two major sects of the cult, it will be a Muhammad's teachings come to fruition.
And consider that the disaster which will follow, an endless war of pointless religious schism, will act as a vacume -- clearing out many of the most dangerous Jihadists who have made it a business to implant themselves in the lands of the infidels. They will return to their homelands to wage Jihad there.
It all can't happen soon enough for the countries of the Modern World.
Posted by: Abraham_Lincoln
at February 20, 2007 11:31 PM
To the poster whose conspiracy-theory posting has disappeared: banning, and removal of all of your posts, will follow any further attempts at posting conspiracy-theory stuff. I am long-suffering and sweet-tempered, but not forever.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 20, 2007 11:34 PM
This should not be a surprise. This was entirely predictable. That the Administration could not figure this out, and still cannot fathom it, and does not know how to make use of the sectarian (or the ethnic divides), and won't even allow itself to think about it (Pentagon and State Department share one motto about those fissures within Islam: "Don't Go There."
That no one even among those who oppose the Administration's policy can figure out that the most deadly and unanswerable criticism is based on the inability of the Adminiistration to recognize, and identify, the enemy, and to understand what Iraq presents that, if exploited merely by the act of leaving (that is hardly "exploitation"), could divide and demoralize and weaken the Camp of Islam -- that is what astonishes. That is what no one could have predicted -- the depth of timidity, the stupidity, the cupidity, the all-those-other-things that together make up the Esdrujula Explanation.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 20, 2007 11:40 PM
"...they claim that their Hidden Imam will come to Mecca and Al-Madina, destroy the Al-Haram Mosque and the Mosque of the Prophet, and dig in the graves of Abu Bakr and Omar and burn them both, and then he will command the wind to blow them away. He will also dig in the grave of Aisha, the Mother of the Believers, and will execute her. All this is part of their plan."
What a delightful thought! Sounds like an epic production worthy of Steven Spielberg. Now if thet can get Chuck Heston to play the hidden Iman, with a star studded cast to play Aisha, Bakr and Omar, it's sure to sweep the Oscars.
Can't wait!
at February 20, 2007 11:43 PM
Blair is beginning the pull-out.
PM Howard isn't as yet, but we have a lot less troops there.
Hugh,
Thanks for keeping the site "neat"!
at February 20, 2007 11:47 PM
Woooooooooooow I’m convinced; someone is making all of these up! 50 years for all that?! They’re waaaaaaaay behind the timetable.
=)
at February 20, 2007 11:47 PM
"What a delightful thought! Sounds like an epic production worthy of Steven Spielberg. Now if thet can get Chuck Heston to play the hidden Iman, with a star studded cast to play Aisha, Bakr and Omar, it's sure to sweep the Oscars.
Can't wait!
Posted by: rational "
LOL!!
Would you trust Speilberg after "Munich"?
Is Zeta-Jones too old to play Aisha?? Just a silly thought,,,,,
at February 20, 2007 11:51 PM
Condeeleza Rice is in over her head, but many things happen for a reason. It sickens me to think of the coalition and Israeli members who have been killed and will be killed by Western arms transfers to the Middle East.
But the cold reality is that most of the small arms we’ve sent over will be used in Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
O/T: Heard a report that all 7,000 of the Iraqis being considered for asylum in the US are Christians; ostensibly because they are the ‘most persecuted’ group in Iraq.
at February 20, 2007 11:55 PM
On just which planet is this guy considered to be sane?
Ah, I see: planet mussulman.
Well, that explains everything, doesn't it?
Hugh is correct: divide and conquer is our only hope and with Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim around and expostulating his idiocies such a strategy will be easy. Looks like we can win this one, guys and girls.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem
at February 20, 2007 11:55 PM
"All these actions are part of the 50-year plan ..."
Damnit! I'm not that young! Hurry it up! I don't want to miss it!
Posted by: LoneRanger
at February 20, 2007 11:57 PM
"the Iranian Persian goal is to massacre the Arabs"
Sounds good. Go, baby, go!
Posted by: unicorns62000
at February 21, 2007 12:31 AM
So, Mahmoud thinks that the Mullahs are a greater
threat to Arabia than the Elders. Wait until he finds out what the Jesuits and the Masons are planning for Sunni-land. And let's not forget Erich von Daniken's space aliens. And what about Fu Manchu, and Prof. Moriarty? The poor Sunni Arabs, so many enemies. The Arabs are such nice people, how can this be? It looks like they should stop wasting their petro-billions on building lavish mosques in the US, and start buying munitions instead.
Slightly OT, but what do moslems make of UFO's? Was "Close Encounters" shown in the moslem world? And what about that dozen infidels tramping around on Allah's home-base, the Moon? That must have been offensive to them. Seems to me that the first big oil price-hke by OPEC was right after the Apollo landings, as revenge perhaps. And we had to rub the insult in by naming the flights after a western god, and a pagan one at that. No wonder it's been terrorism ever since. Maybe if we'd included a couple of black muslims among the astronauts. . . .
at February 21, 2007 12:39 AM
What a bizarre name: Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim
Any one know anything about this character? A quick yahoo search shows many pages, but all seem to be based on this same al-jazeera interview-story.
at February 21, 2007 1:35 AM
"Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom"
- from article
LOL!
Posted by: Mike_W
at February 21, 2007 2:36 AM
"The new Iranian constitution persecutes Sunni Muslims in Iran, while it gives constitutional rights to the Zoroastrians, the Jews, and the Christians."
I didn't know that Christians have constitutional rights in Iran. But might well be true. Syria as well is Shia (the ruling Alawites are Shia) ruled and Christians there are treated far better than by their Sunni counterparts. 25th of December e.g. is an official holiday in Syria which few might know.
But it's worth knowing. Attacking Syria e.g. might let the Sunnis (the Syrian majority) come to governemnt there. I doubt that a Christian holiday would survive the first day of their rule.
No Sunni mosque in Teheran - big problem, eh?
No Christian church in Riyadh - all roger, eh?
Sorry, but I don't really feel sorry for you folks.
The sassanides he refers to were the heirs of the great Persian culture, overrun and subdued by the Mohammedans.
Obviously the Mohammedans didn't succeed in extinguishing their identity as completely as they did with the Byzantines.
As history shows the Shia is predominant in areas where the sassanides ruled, the Sunni is predominant in originally Byzantine territories.
I also can't help thinking that the Shia represents the more organized, slightly more tolerant and less violent part of islam.
At least they seem to be more under control of their leaders, as seen in Iraq. So there are some leaders to negotiate with - and hold accountable for - at least.
Some Iranians I met also prefer to be referred as Persians. Their current regime might be one of the region's worst but I think it's very credible that the Iranian population is the most America friendly in the region. With the Bush's family (senior & junior) hot love story in the region - the Saudis - I heavily doubt it..
at February 21, 2007 4:26 AM
flibustier: Your comment makes a lot of sense. But really, how less worried should we be in a nuclear age with the RofP getting the bomb, be it Shi-ite or Sunni?
If one thing was proven in Gulf Wars round one, was that Sunni or Shi-ite; they both hate our infidel guts equally. I mean do you remember who Saddam handed his air force over to, before the USA had a chance to wipe it out? Iran! His worst enemy, however the West is an even bigger enemy when it comes to pleasing Allah.
Which I think also proves one other important point, it is highly plauseable that Iran is eyeing off Mecca in order to gain a powerbase throughout the Muslim world, against the common enemy: The Great Satan (The West; incl. Eurarabia). I have heard that Iran has had war games practicing amphibious landings. Why? Mecca.
People don't write Iran off! They are closley aligned with Russia, whom is still a military superpower (even though many in the USA say otherwise), Iran is also in "bed" with China (who will overtake the USA by 2015 and can already hold their own against the USA in a military sense),with Hindu India being the only Western friendly buffer in the region. Iran has been buying state of the art weaponry off Russia and China for some time. And like Russia and China, Iran has a weapon we (the West) don't have: the will to spill enough blood of their own until they have won.
If a few of our soldiers get killed, we demand a surrender. They don't. They want total war. We want dhimmi (well our governments do).
Posted by: 3rdtimelucky
at February 21, 2007 4:55 AM
I've just got back from my local bookmakers in town. He's offering longer odds on an outright Shia victory. (longer than the Hamas/Fatah partnership lasting to the end of the week) As a cautious punter and not wanting to be out of pocket, I took an Each Way bet.
Posted by: western infidel
at February 21, 2007 5:54 AM
I wonder where he got that idea?..........Noting conditions in the present world, Ahmadinejad said "we can conclude that the world is on the verge of a great revolution." He added that most countries were taking Iran as their model of a state that applies Islamic teachings to settle the problems of the world.
http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-24/0702211332121640.htm
Posted by: storagemanager
at February 21, 2007 5:56 AM
The interview was on Al-Jazeera, and it should have been seen by many in the Arab world, unlike an interview in the New York Crimes or the Atlanta Constipation. We can only hope that this resonates and is repeated by other "Islamic historians and Muslim scholars" over and over and over.
Posted by: Pelayo
at February 21, 2007 6:27 AM
"Maybe if we'd included a couple of black muslims among the astronauts. . . "
....Muslims , even black Muslims, could encounter problems with space travel as noted by the Russians who have been meeting with potential Muslim astronauts....
"The two-day meeting will also mull how Muslim astronauts perform ablutions with water rationing in space and prepare food according to Islamic standards."
at February 21, 2007 7:01 AM
Exsgtbrown, ablution or wudu requires lots of water, and I believe that a wet cloth does not meet the requirements. One cannot pour water over one's head in zero gravity. Movies to the contrary, I don't think a zero-gravity shower has been built. The solution to this problem should be very interesting. I have read that there is also a serious concern over when the Mohammedan prays and which way will he face. Also the orientation of the toilet is a concern.
Aw forget it - no Moslims in space, it's too complicated.
Posted by: Pelayo
at February 21, 2007 7:29 AM
I can't help but think that all of the "elder conspiracies" might progress more quickly if the elders didn't keep letting their top-secret protocols fall into their enemies' hands all the time.
Posted by: ryoga
at February 21, 2007 7:43 AM
A general, all-out Sunni/Shiite conflict would not be restricted to the Middle East region. Europe and the US have lots of Sunni and Shiite immigrants.
If serious conflict breaks out, expect to have Shiite/Sunni bombings and shootings in Europe and the US as well. It will be like Bloods-vs-Crips writ large. It would also be impossible for the major media to sweep under the rug as well. I think this is one of the things that Bush wants to avoid.
OTOH, a Sunni/Shiite civil war on the streets of Dearborn Michigan would be a wakeup call to the rest of the US: you cannot import members of foreign cultures and expect them to leave their cultures, and historical animosities, at the border
Posted by: PapaBear
at February 21, 2007 8:24 AM
pez: O/T: Heard a report that all 7,000 of the Iraqis being considered for asylum in the US are Christians; ostensibly because they are the ‘most persecuted’ group in Iraq.
Detroit Free Press: More Iraqi refugees permitted -- the article implies that a good percentage are Iraqi Christians.
It would be good to import a whole bunch of people who read and speak the language, and who have no affinity for either the Shiite or Sunni sides. Maybe we can catch up on translations of captured documents.
Posted by: PapaBear
at February 21, 2007 8:35 AM
Previewing your Comment
Let's all come back down to earth for a minute. North American and European leaders will take sides because of fear of disruption of oil supplies. Who controls the mideast oil? Shiites?
Another reason is one I have written about a few times. The bleeding hearts will insist that we find a way to stop it because "all life is precious." If these bleeding hearts had any inkling of what might happen when the US leaves Iraq, they would be singing a different melody. Genocide in places like Rwanda does not resonate with white liberals.
at February 21, 2007 8:39 AM
Shouldn't we encourage this clash? I think we should let history take its course. We should move our troops into an independent Kurdistan, free the Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iran and let the festivities begin. I believe the Kurds are ready for capitalism and democracy more so than any other muslim nation. The Turks have messed it up and denied Attaturk's dream. Maybe the Kurds have learned from Turkeys mistake that Islam is the problem.
Posted by: kiko
at February 21, 2007 8:51 AM
Russia is in Iran for Hard Currency. Does it really matter to them if we destroy the Reactor they are building for them? Especially when the Iranians are falling behind in the payments.
Does it really matter to Russia if the Iranians do the field testing on 2nd or 3rd Generation Weapon Systems?
We need not Destroy Irans Oil infrastructure if it is a consern of Russia and China. Use that option to keep Russia and China out of our hair, if you know what hits the fan.
If the Iranian people "love" America as the Left would have us believe. Then do they not have a funny way of showing it? That Song has been playing for 20 years or more. It is a Golden Oldie no one wants to hear anymore. If they really do like America, then how large a Body Count is their continued silence worth?
It sounds plesant to have both Camps of Islam in open warfare with each other. The conflict will be long and bloody. Many will die. Mainly because it is difficult to see where either side would be able to strike a knock out blow to the other. So the war will drag on for years. Obstinately with the western Nations fueling the flames with support that each sees in their own National intrests. Just like the "Oil for Food" Program. Say one thing but do the opposite.
Oil demands World wide keep us from just letting them go at it. Neither Camp of Islam will allow the other to produce or ship oil. So, for as long as the 2 sides are fighting, there will be no oil from the Middle East. Removing Oil from the Middle East creates an overnight oil shortage.
The Goverment of President Bush has been adding to the National Oil Reserves for some time. For good reason. Probably adding presure to the rise in price... However, adding to the reserve in and of itself will only go so far.
I some times think the Politicans are more afraid of the reaction of the American Public to the loss of their Mobility through either Price or Physical lack of Oil, than to the other threats we face.
A conflict between the 2 Camps of Islam could become a World War in and of itself. From the Western Mediterranean all the way to the Pacific Ocean. Between open Warfare and internal disorders over all this Land Mass. there is no way the rest of the world could stay out of it.
I have no doubt that the Fundimentalists in both Camps will find more ways to attack us using safe areas over a much larger land mass. They blame us for their troubles as it is. What makes anyone think that will change?
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at February 21, 2007 8:52 AM
The "Infidel Revolution" begins - JOIN NOW!
see it, read it, pass the word (and do offer greatest appreciation to the "intellectual warriors" of JW/DW who have been instrumental in this movement - now reolution)
a portion of latest CSPI interview:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27030
"Warner: Our resistance so far has been the first stage: to know the enemy and to develop a strategy. We are now coming to the end of it.
Since 9/11 we have had intellectual warriors who have studied Political Islam, built websites, blogged and written books. We now know the entire scope of Islamic doctrine and the biggest elements of a repressed and denied history of the dhimmitude, and annihilation of cultures. To repeat, we now know the doctrine and history of Political Islam at a strategic level. We now know the enemy and this is a mark of our success.
...
We should all stop, take a deep breath, look at what we have done and congratulate ourselves for completing the first stage: Know the Enemy. Then we need take another deep breath and get back to work: Strategy
...
Our strategy must be the salvation of our precious civilization. We must save our very selves.
All of this cannot be accomplished without the Mind of War. There is a psychology of war that puts everything in a different perspective. We are rich, fat, dumb and happy living in the land that everyone wants to emigrate to. It is easy to turn on the Super Bowl, plan the bar mitzvah, work for a promotion and just let Political Islam have its way. The Mind of War sees that all of what we have is an illusion, that the cancer has started to metastasize. Until we develop the Mind of War, we are doomed. We must have that emergency reserve that war brings out.
Without this state of mind, we will lose all we have.
...
Our civilization must acknowledge our status. We are still dhimmis. It has been 1400 years of servitude, slavery, dhimmitude, ignorance and a repressed and denied history. When we understand our history we will see exactly how repressed and in denial we are. The first mark of the dhimmi is ignorance of Political Islam.
We must acknowledge our suffering. We must decide that 270,000,000 of our ancestors did not die in vain.
...
Luckily the cure for dhimmitude is very simple. Once you know the history and doctrine of Political Islam, you cease being a dhimmi. Knowledge is the key and the only key to freedom from shame and fear. We shall know the truth and the truth will make us free. Our future depends upon our facing the past.
...
In the end we will win or lose depending on how we deal with our dhimmi leaders in the media, schools and politics. Once we win the Dhimmi Revolution, winning the war with Political Islam is possible. If we don’t win the revolution, our civilization will become extinct."
at February 21, 2007 9:03 AM
"All these actions are part of the 50-year plan of the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom."
LOL.
What next, will Sunni Islamist television shows do a miniseries on the nefarious "Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom"?
LOL
Posted by: jeffreyimm
at February 21, 2007 9:11 AM
Let us make a "deal" .. We will leave Iraq if they take all the Muslims in our land off our hands...They do not want us and we do not want them.....We both can declare "victory."..
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at February 21, 2007 10:12 AM
I think the core belief in the mood to get out of Iraq is the idea that if we leave them alone, the Islamists will turn on one another and teach each other apart. They will always need money to finance their fight. I just wonder if we are on the right side. It is still not too late to put the Sunni successor to the monarchy on the throne of Iraq, you know! Sunnis are alot easier to deal with, and are historically our allies.
Posted by: Kay
at February 21, 2007 10:22 AM
Sometimes I have funny mental images that happen when something is said.
When the announcement of the UK troop withdrawal cmae this morning I had one.
I hope youe don't mind if I share it.
The late John Lennon with a large pair of scissors in his hand.
He is saying (in one of his great falsetto voices, a la Hard Days Night, the movie)
as he cuts a ribbon.
"I now declare this war over."
LOL
Aunt Bea
at February 21, 2007 10:39 AM
"There is no Sunni mosque in Tehran, even though there are over two million Sunni Muslims there."
Do they hear their own words? Do any of them look in the mirror or at the Shia Muslims or the non-Muslims in their own countries and how they are treated?
"Don't want to rain on your parade people, but this is just the start of a public campaign to justify the acquisition of nuclear weapons in the Sunni Muslim world to match Iran."
Cornelius,
The public campaign for nuclear weapons started long ago. It was originally justified by Israel's (undeclared) nuclear weapons. Nukes are the only way they can eliminate Israel, since not even their overwhelming numbers allowed the Arabs to defeat the IDF. Maybe Iran wasn't public about their intentions, but since the Cold War ended the Sunni world has made no bones about its desire for nukes. The next justification was President Bush's axis of evil speech. Nukes were needed to prevent any attack by the US. Now it's the nuclearization of Iran. Excuses, all.
The Sunni Muslim world already HAS nuclear weapons. They are in Pakistan. The A.Q. Khan network worked to proliferate them throughout the Muslim world. The genie is out of the bottle.
Posted by: PMK
at February 21, 2007 12:31 PM
We can't just sit back and watch unless and until we ban all travel of any kind to the US by any Muslim in the world.
If American Muslims begin to attack us here then we must deny reentry to any Muslim who leaves the country for any reason. No traveling to training camps.
For now, American Muslims have the benefit of the doubt. What they do with it is up to them.
Posted by: PMK
at February 21, 2007 12:35 PM
It is great news
The US & UK and other nations should pull out of Iraq straight-away. There is no need to adopt some face-saving delays so that Bush can claim "victory".
And then we should sell guns and other non-biological, non-chemical & non-nuclear weapons to both sides. We could make a fortune.
Let them kill each other.
And make sure at the same time that Muslims are not offered refugee status in the West. Tell them to live in their version of Muslimland paradise.
Oil prices will go up but I dont care.
About time we were weaned off the stuff.
at February 21, 2007 1:07 PM
I'm late to this, but it's partly funny, partly tragic to see all Persian dynasties being conflated - the Medians (Cyrus the Great), Sassanids, Safavid et al. The Zoroastrians have been 2nd class citizens in Iran since al Qadassiya, and it wasn't until the Safavids that Iran became Shia. So the complaint by the Imam above about the Shia wanting to dig up Abu Bakr, Umar and Aisha (incidentally, how does one execute a dead woman?) couldn't have applied to the Zoroastrians. And what about the period when Iranians were Sunni?
But I wish them luck. Since Infidels aren't going to destroy Mecca & Medina, I hope the Shia do. In fact, I hope they overrun all of the Middle East, and force Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan to go to war against Iran. That should be a sight.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at February 21, 2007 2:25 PM
"There are no Sunni mosques in Tehran", boo freakin hoo.
May someone point to the Sunni's there are no Churches, Synagogues or anything else allowed in Saudi Arabia.
at February 21, 2007 3:04 PM
dead aliens and their space craft from NM were moved to Area 51.......
posted by Texican
please get your facts right!
everyone knows they were transported to Wright Patterson Air force base
at February 21, 2007 3:27 PM
dead aliens and their space craft from NM were moved to Area 51.......
posted by Texican
please get your facts right!
everyone knows they were transported to Wright Patterson Air force base
Posted by: hierophant at February 21, 2007 03:27 PM
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this is why it is a conspiracy.....nonagreement on the facts...........
Posted by: The Texican
at February 21, 2007 4:32 PM
Hey! I want a Protocol too!
White, woman, 40ish... why can't we have one too? What are you? Womanphobes?
We want to take over the world too!
Posted by: Kay
at February 21, 2007 6:21 PM
Damn Muslims, their still living in 650AD ! Obviously, WWII was a mistake, we went after the wrong enemy !
Posted by: Jeff
at February 21, 2007 8:55 PM
No, WWII was not a mistake Jeff. It was the West going after a Western-created evil (Nazism). WWII solidified our stand against wide-spread evil, showing that we are willing to stand up against indiscriminate hate and prejudice. It is a testament to our character, and should be invoked by all Westerners when facing similar evil again. However, you can claim that we didn’t go far enough in WWII. Why was Nazism condemned, but not a certain other ideology that partnered with Nazism? Could it have been because we had allies with that same ideology? Why did we give them back all of the ME and North Africa? There was no ME back then. There was no Arab, except in Arabia. We fixed so many countries, but why didn’t we fix Turkey? Shame, oh, shame on us.
at February 22, 2007 12:04 AM
Ok Hugh..........didn't have to write from scratch this time..........
and you still didn't answer my questions???
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To the poster whose conspiracy-theory posting has disappeared: banning, and removal of all of your posts, will follow any further attempts at posting conspiracy-theory stuff. I am long-suffering and sweet-tempered, but not forever.
Posted by: Hugh at February 20, 2007 11:34 PM
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conspiracies, what conspiracies?????????
kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll by cubans....
kennedy's body lived for years in the basement of Parkland Hospital.....
dead aliens and their space craft from NM were moved to Area 51.......
the Air Forces Blue Book is a pack of lies......
hillary is not bisexual.......
the cult of islam is peaceful........
copied it this time so I can repost when Hugh hacks it again.
The Texican.
at February 22, 2007 1:19 PM
I'm confused. I was not addressing you, nor did I remove any of your postings. Perhaps someone else did, but if so, I don't know why, when, where. Sorry.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 22, 2007 2:30 PM
I'm confused. I was not addressing you, nor did I remove any of your postings. Perhaps someone else did, but if so, I don't know why, when, where. Sorry.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 22, 2007 2:47 PM
Damn those Zionist Shi'ites! or are they Shi'ite Zionists? One thing is clear, the hidden Imam is alive and teaching in a yeshiva near Tel Aviv. Don't believe me? Just ask Rabbi Ahmedinejad.
Posted by: Provoslavni
at February 22, 2007 4:15 PM
"incidentally, how does one execute a dead woman?" asked by Infidel Pride above.
Easy, just take a big scimitar and cut her skull off from the rest of the skeleton. Sure, it's not as fun as beheading a live kaffir, but Allah knows best.
Posted by: Provoslavni
at February 22, 2007 4:23 PM
I'm confused. I was not addressing you, nor did I remove any of your postings. Perhaps someone else did, but if so, I don't know why, when, where. Sorry.
Posted by: Hugh at February 22, 2007 02:47 PM
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have to lighten up occassionally or is that light up??
later........
Posted by: The Texican
at February 23, 2007 12:25 AM
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