GIRLS FORCED TO CONVERT TO ISLAM

Police protect girls forced to convert to Islam

Sir Ian Blair: Police and universities working together to tackle 'aggresive conversions'

Extremist Muslims who force vulnerable teenage girls to convert to Islam are being targeted by police, Met chief Sir Ian Blair has revealed.

Police are working with universities to clamp down on "aggressive conversions" during which girls are beaten up and forced to abandon university courses.

The Hindu Forum of Britain claims hundreds of mostly Sikh and Hindu girls have been intimidated by Muslim men who take them out on dates before terrorising them until they convert.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=437871&in_page_id=1770

Posted by: DP111 at February 22, 2007 5:52 PM

That answers the doubting Thomases about the WMD's

Posted by: Infidel Pride at February 22, 2007 5:55 PM

But he suggested the strategy was backfiring by turning public opinion against the insurgents, saying the number of tips provided by Iraqis had doubled in the last six months.

Yeah, the Shiites are probably ratting on the Sunnis and the Sunnis are ratting out the Shiites. I do not believe for one minute that a Shiite or Sunni would snitch on a co-religionist.

Someone else in another thread has expressed their displeasure with the word insurgent. It means nothing and is thus misleading. I would presume that the Sunnis could be called insurgents because they inceremoniously had power taken away when Saddam was overthrown. The Shiites could be called insurgents because they want the US out so that they can mete out some unsupervised retribution for all the years Saddam was in power.

I would like to know which sect the perps belonged to so I can keep score.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 22, 2007 6:07 PM

the media has been silent about the use of WMD's use by the islamist terrorists. WMD stockpiles are being used up now, and some uncovered seems to prove the point that saddam did have WMD!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at February 22, 2007 6:08 PM

Iraq was and probably still can be considered a semi-industrialized medieval country. There would be plenty of pressurized containers containing any kind of lethal chemical that a mischievous Muslim would want. Propane, acetylene, chlorine, hydrochloric acid, are just four.

Chlorine is obsolete as a military gas. I doubt that Saddam stockpiled it as a weapon.

In these latest two incidents, chlorine was a weapon of opportunity.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 22, 2007 6:27 PM

When the "insurgents" start using ricin, sarin, or VX, then we can speculate that the "insurgents" got hold of some WMD that every damn politician in the US said Saddam had.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 22, 2007 6:34 PM

Pelayo is correct,i think.
the AP report does not seem to me to be about pre-war manufactured WMDs, it refers to propane gas containers and "all kinds of ordinary chemicals".
these terrorists are using whatever comes to hand.
this reminds me of Dhiren Barot's limo plot, as outlined in his written proposal to al Qaeda, in which hired limos would be packed with gas
bottles and then detonated in locations such as the underground car parks of large London hotels.
another of his ideas was to ram chemical-laden vehicles into the front lobbies of important buildings.
his plans were discovered on al Qaeda computers seized in Pakistan, and he is now in prison in the UK, but there many like-minded guys out there. they want to kill people, and modern industry provides a wide range of chemicals, compressed gases and other items which can be
used to do that.
probably similar attacks are being planned in the US and Europe right now.

Posted by: M Al-Content at February 22, 2007 6:40 PM

Pelayo:

I refer to them as Islamites, and claim that they are one of the 7 lost tribes of isreal. I make this claim as it makes them crazy/er. The magic horse of Islam is an embarassment as well, so I make sure to mention it in every conversation. Along with the 'Holy Duck of Islam', the duck that mohammad used as he assended into heaven, and as we all know, the duck makes the sound of the angles of islam when it quacks.

Posted by: QuadoLama at February 22, 2007 6:40 PM

I have been reminded twice that supper is ready so I have to go. I can't resist just one more comment. I predict the military will come up with a new acronym, such as ICD - improvised chemical device, or EIED - enhanced improvised explosive device, or PYHBYLKYAG - put your head between your legs and . . .

Posted by: Pelayo at February 22, 2007 6:42 PM

They should set up a gallows right in front of the "factory" and decorate it with anyone found inside.

Posted by: MP at February 22, 2007 7:16 PM

There have been numerous cases of stolen propane tanks and tankers:

In Columbus, OH: (2/14/05)
http://www.com.state.oh.us/press/display.asp?ID=526
Twelve propane tanks were reported stolen from a machine tool manufacturing facility on the city’s west side earlier this month. In all, 35 tanks have been stolen in the area in the past few weeks. In addition, 30 tanks were taken from a hardware store last November on the north side of Columbus.

Authorities say the stolen tanks were large and weighed between 80 and 150 pounds. They were not the type used by consumers for their gas grilles.

And in Chicago: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=185352
March 19, 2003 - Dozens of propane tanks have been stolen in the Chicago area in recent weeks. The FBI is now involved because of the fear that those tanks could be in the hands of terrorists.
In Evanston, five 30-pound tanks used for a forklift at J and S Steel were stolen. In Burbank, 28 propane tanks used for barbecues and heaters were taken. In Oak Lawn, the storeowner who was hit is adding new locks and lighting to his business to try to deter theft. It is the second time in 16 years Magdi Elwi has been robbed.

"It's a matter of theft, that they needed tanks to use for heat, i mean, someone around the area needed them for heat," said Magdi Elwi, theft victim.

Hearing about the series of missing propane tanks has nearby residents wondering.

"Yes I think it is a concern because if it's a large amount of tanks being stolen then that is definitely something to worry about," said Rene Jagiello, resident.

"People could just be stealing the tanks to get ready for the war and not knowing what it will do to the city. If they have propane heaters at home they're probably stealing propane tanks to get ready. Or to sell them to people on the black market," said Angela Russell, resident.

Because of the heightened terror alert the thefts were reported to the FBI.

"Were they thefts for resale or thefts for terrorism, you know, right now we're looking to see exactly what that is," said Tom Knear, FBI.

The store in Burbank happens to be the same place where an individual on a terrorist watch list was arrested-- Nabil Al-Marabh. At this point there is no connection to the thefts and terrorism, according to the FBI.

Dontcha just love the "no connection to terror" disclaimer the FBI always says?

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at February 22, 2007 7:34 PM

Too bad the Iraqi government we're fighting to protect is a Shiite ally of Iran, or at least they would be more overtly if we weren't in the neighborhood.
As nasty as those chem-weapons are, the only threat to our security comes from strategic WMD, something a combine of Iraq and Iran could effect.
BTW, a friend of mine read one of Robert's books on my rec (Islam Unveiled) and now reads JW. He's from Thailand and so I sent him some of the Thai JW posts to pique his interest.

Posted by: jewdog at February 22, 2007 8:07 PM

"People could just be stealing the tanks to get ready for the war and not knowing what it will do to the city. If they have propane heaters at home they're probably stealing propane tanks to get ready. Or to sell them to people on the black market," said Angela Russell, resident.
++++++++++

propane tanks will explode..............shoot them with tracer rounds and watch them blow.

Posted by: The Texican at February 22, 2007 8:18 PM

Your attention required Mr Spencer

RALEIGH - A national Muslim advocacy group has rebuked the Wake County Public School system for allowing a Christian evangelist to speak at Enloe High School and distribute pamphlets denouncing Islam.

The Council on American Islamic Relations said the school system will have created a "discriminatory, hostile learning environment," violating federal civil rights law, if it does not investigate the incident and apologize to students.

The complaint stems from a guest appearance last week in several classes by Kamil Solomon, a Raleigh-based Christian evangelist, who urged students to shun Muslims.

"When you bring in somebody to distribute hate-filled literature without an opportunity for rebuttal, you have a disturbing situation," said Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the national council, known as CAIR. "These students are obliged to be in the classroom and listen to this speaker who is presented as an authority figure by the teacher."

'Don't marry a Muslim'

Solomon's appearance Friday in teacher Robert Escamilla's social studies classes at Enloe, a magnet school for gifted and talented students, shocked many who took the pamphlets home and showed them to their parents, students said. One pamphlet, comparing Jesus with Muhammad, says the Muslim prophet "enslaved people, abused women and taught Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims and force them into Islam."

"He basically told us Muslims were bad and we should convert to Christianity," said Alyssa Kaszycki, 14, of Cary, who heard Solomon during a freshman seminar class. "He told all the girls we should never marry a Muslim man because they would take away our freedom and beat us."

AND

A spokesman for the Muslim American council said he was seeking assurances from the Wake County schools that the incident would not be repeated and the people responsible for it would be held accountable.

"There should be some kind of system where proselytizing is not allowed," said Marc Conaghan, spokesman for the Raleigh-based Muslim group.

Parents, too, said the school's response wasn't adequate. Tariq Butt of Raleigh, whose daughter, Saira, is a freshman, said the principal's suggestion that Solomon's presentation was just "one person's perspective," was disingenuous.

"It wasn't opinion. It was an outright attack and fabrication," said Butt, who is a Muslim. "Can we allow the KKK to distribute hate-filled literature in school?"

Posted by: DP111 at February 22, 2007 8:37 PM

If they didn't catch the brew master getting the factory doesn't matter.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at February 22, 2007 8:42 PM

One can not expect to get the truth in School can you?

Posted by: flowerknife_us at February 22, 2007 8:45 PM

I wonder how many of these iraqi chemists have degrees from American Universities?

It wasn't long ago that George invited several hundred students to attend American Universities; gave them grants for tutition; and made American kids go to the end of the line.

Perhaps some of Bush's graduates are putting their free degrees and their new found talents to work courtesy of the US taxpayers?

Posted by: witness at February 22, 2007 9:30 PM

Muslims go on violent rampage and get off without jail:

http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/dailyechonews/display.var.1210432.0.gang_walk_free_after_racist_rampage.php

Gang walk free after racist rampage
By Chris Semple

A GANG who screamed racist abuse as they went on a violent rampage through Southampton city centre have escaped immediate jail terms.
Seven men were part of the group who left bystanders unconscious and bleeding.
One even waved a knife in the face of two terrified women shouting: "I'm from Afghanistan, I'm a Muslim. I'm going to stab every white person."
Deeply concerned' Today community leaders said they were deeply concerned at the "lenient" sentences.
…
Peter Wirgman, pictured below, of the Southampton Federation of Residents' Associations, added: "It's a very lenient sentence and very concerning.
"The fear of violence is one of the biggest worries our residents face, and keeps people in their homes at night instead of going out to enjoy themselves. Consequently violence like this must be punished and be seen to be punished if there is to be a deterrent against it."
A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Southampton said: "Given the violence they showed, the sentence is rubbish.
"It is unacceptable and anyone who breaks the law in this way should be taken to court and properly punished.
"In this case, the fact that they called themselves Muslims is particularly concerning given that they had been in a bar and had drugs with them. It shows their ignorance of our faith and leads me to question how much Islam they have in their hearts.

FROM LIONHEART
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/index.html

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at February 22, 2007 9:41 PM

Islam will continue to steal, be given, or maybe even copy 100-yr old Western technologies that can be used to cause mass death. Its going to get viscous.

Posted by: pez at February 22, 2007 9:50 PM

I wonder what yer average Sunni/Shiite muslim thinks about the use of any gas or chemical agent in public attacks. Do they remember Saddam and the Kurds? Do they think some idiot Shiite/Sunni might go off the deep end and gas everyone? If I were a Baghdadarian, or anywhere in Iraq, I would be nervous that one good gas attack deserves another. Soon the escalation starts. The heavy gasses come out. My gas is deadlier than your gas.
Gas wars, muslim style. Aint that a gas? Dont anyone light a match...

Posted by: duh_swami at February 22, 2007 10:13 PM

"... large amounts of chemicals in car bomb factory ..."

Alternative fuel research, perhaps?

Posted by: LoneRanger at February 22, 2007 10:32 PM

Church leaders meet with Iranians.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/02/religious_left_leaders_chided.php

Posted by: Carolyn2 at February 22, 2007 10:45 PM

DP111---- Isnt it interesting that, according to the article, there is no refutation of the TRUTH of what the evangelist distributed, only that it wasnt proper in school, They couldnt deny the truth.

Their only tactic was to try to paint the Christian evangelist as a "hate filled KKK member. Hey, get that guys address and phone number; I want to send him a medal for bravery!

Re: Chemical bombs. Isnt all that happens over there somewhat of a harbinger for over here. Are we in a Monroe Doctrine mode or are we waiting for the other shoe to drop?

Posted by: guide inside at February 22, 2007 10:50 PM

The War on Terror is like a mathematics problem, the common denominator is Muslims and the prime number is Islam which indivisible and cannot be divided.

From the desk of Mortalkombatent 2007, age 13

Posted by: alvindchipmunk at February 23, 2007 3:34 AM

....some may refuse to believe...but "old" chemical and biological weapons will still kill you graveyard dead....that they exist there can be no doubt, the soldiers have found artillery shells contaning mustard gas, sarin gas, and other nerve toxins...as the war drags on the terrors (as we are seeing now)are starting to use the WMDs and it is only a matter of time before they go into the desert and dig up their stores of WMD and begin to use them....The chlorine gas attacts are but training runs....those who have denied the WMDs for so long will see that the truth was there the entire time.....unfortunately many will die including American soldiers who have been finding WMDs and have wage a courageous fight...it will happen...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 5:51 AM

"Ordinary chemicals" Ordinary chemical one: chlorine gas (CL2)+ ordinary chemical two: carbon monoxide (CO)= COCL2 Phosgene = WMD. Chlorine gas alone used as a weapon does qualify as a WMD. It is a blistering agent, scars the lung tissue and 3 or 4 good whiffs of it can kill you in less than a minute. This would qualify as a WMD if Bush were not president.

Posted by: Infidel One at February 23, 2007 6:35 AM

Just because chlorine gas is obsolete military weapon doesn't mean it won't still kill you. A musket ball would scare the hell out of me right now as I suspect we have not developed an immunity to them,

Posted by: Infidel One at February 23, 2007 6:39 AM

how many deaths are required to label a weapon as a WMD?....in my opinion, a car bomb which explodes leaving a 50 foot crater and killing 100 people could be called a weapon of mass destruction...a handheld boxcutter used to bringdown an airplane which crashes into a sky scraper killing 3000 people could be called a weapon of mass destruction, a bearded,crooked finger pointing crazed Islamic cleric who commands his minions to round up 150 people for torture and executions could be called a weapon of mass destruction....a cold and calculating follower of Islam who detonates a backback of ballbearing laden explosives in a crowded train killing 200 people could be called a weapon of mass destruction....a self named group of Islamic terrorists (and there are scores of self named groups) who state mission is to kill all Non Muslims in the world could be called a weapon of mass destruction ....

.....Does a weapon of mass destruction have to kill 100, 1000, 10000, or 100000 to qualify? Does a weapon of mass destruction have to have lingering killing power to qualify?....

....it occurs to me that Islam is a weapon of mass destruction...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 6:55 AM

...for the record, Islam has killed millions.....has there ever been a bigger weapon of mass destruction....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 6:59 AM

I'm going to disagree on some semantics.

Yeah, chlorine will kill and disable, using industrial chlorine in a bomb is not WMD in the sense that pre-invasion intellegence is now validated. If that were the case, every municipal water treatment plant in the US has a tank full of WMD.

When we see ricin, mustard, sarin, or VX, then we can say, "This is probably Saddam's WMD." Until then, the location of Saddam's stockpile is still unknown, at least to the US military.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 23, 2007 7:02 AM

"the location of Saddam's stockpile is still unknown, at least to the US military.""

....don't be so sure.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 7:09 AM

Yeah, Islam is such a peaceful religion, I almost want to throw up. I feel it's not a religion, it's a wanna-be Government.

Posted by: Jeff at February 23, 2007 7:10 AM

Poison gas as a weapon is ineffective against trained and equipped troops. This was shown true in WW1, and it is true now. Killing civilians with gas is easy.

I see lots of video and film from Iraq where the soldiers and Marines do not seem to be ready for a poison gas attack. That is a problem.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 23, 2007 7:14 AM

eve_anne_gelical wrote:

“There have been numerous cases of stolen propane tanks and tankers”

I concur…http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015373.php#c354192

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at February 23, 2007 7:39 AM

Do not forget the Muslims in the US, wanting to learn to drive the trucks and were interested in only driving forward....

.....every day in the US, there are tanker trucks carrying a variety of chemical payloads...even a person with a small imagination and limited brain capacity should be able to imaging a worst case senario.....

.....be alert and report any suspicious activity...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 8:11 AM

I am amazed at the comments re WMD. Surely, logic would dictate here. The borders of Iraq have not been secure for years now. Insurgents have been pouring in from far and wide with the support of other terrorist-sponsoring states. To say that "WMD" - namely chlorine - Found all these years later validates the invasion of Iraq is ludicrous.

Posted by: robertdb at February 23, 2007 8:26 AM

Infidel Pride:
"That answers the doubting Thomases about the WMD's"

Not really.
The insurgents could easily have have manufactured chlorine _since_ Saddam toppled.
The coalition and Dr Hans Blix searched hard between 2002-2006 and found nothing really.

I think Saddam _did_ have a few WMD after the 1st Gulf War in 1991. The evidence is there. And between now and 2nd Gulf war, they vanished (deteriorated? exported to Syria and/or Iran?).
I think the sanctions after the 1st Gulf War was effective (despite the corruption surrounding the oil-for-food program).

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at February 23, 2007 8:56 AM

Exsgtbrown, quite some time ago a few artillery shells containing sarin (I think) were found. If a large cache (thousands of pounds)of sarin or VX or other such were found, Bush would have a prime time press conference. If the military knows were the stuff went, and they believe it went out of Iraq, then I can understand the lack of public disclosure.

Posted by: Pelayo at February 23, 2007 9:24 AM

UK Infidel Lover wrote:

“I think the sanctions after the 1st Gulf War was effective (despite the corruption surrounding the oil-for-food program).”

Yes and after that Saddam gave up his brutal ways throwing parades for the Kurds and pardoning all up-risers after the gulf war. Any mass graves found were actually prehistoric civilizations and had nothing to do with Saddam. His weapons program broken, Saddam gave an open invitation to the UN Weapons inspectors, providing unrestricted access to prove his repentance...right.

Even if WMDs were found, what difference would it make? Saddam’s regime was the threat and now it’s gone. What remains or has risen from its ashes is no less troubling and for which there is no immediate remedy. Finding WMDs at this point will do nothing to fix the problem. Without international support and political backing within America, this effort is doomed as are perhaps tens if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqis once the coalition is gone.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at February 23, 2007 10:24 AM

"Bush would have a prime time press conference"

...No, he would not...such an announcement would be countered by claims of "lie, setup, or it was planted,"....when the terrorists begin using them, there can be no such clamor....and the terrorists are but one step away from using them....You underestimate the situation...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 10:33 AM

hmmmmm...as I write....there is yet another chemical attack......ok boys and girls....big things happenign soon... Islam is revealing the truth....and the truth has been know for a long time....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 10:38 AM

...."Without international support and political backing within America, this effort is doomed"

....The world has never backed America before and I would not expect them to do so in the future....You have a pessimistic attitude....

....Muslims hate the truth....Ban Muslim Immigration now....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 10:42 AM

I do not know how accurate these numbers are, but Al Reuters via News Max is saying that about 34,000 Iraqis were killed in 2006. That number represents a fair sized city.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/22/102325.shtml?s=lh

Posted by: Pelayo at February 23, 2007 11:18 AM

"You have a pessimistic attitude..."

In regards to our current government, I am cautiously pessimistic and justifiably so. My optimism lies with the citizenry and a few stand out congressmen. Until our generals have the freedom from the press and legislature and threat of court martial to BE generals, I will maintain a sober attitude toward our current 'war'.

Call it pessimism if you want but there is such a thing as being overly-optimistic as well.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at February 23, 2007 11:29 AM

How optimistic are you about:

"...banning Muslim Immigration now...?"

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at February 23, 2007 11:30 AM

The terrorists will remove any doubt you may harbor about their intent to use any means availiable to instill fear and terror. they have tried torture, rape, suicide bombers,attacks, intimidation, forced conversions,beheadings,kidnappings,hangings,rockets, ieds,and all have failed to achieve success,...the latest round of chemical attacks is just a hint of things to come...there is no doubt the chemicals will turn from nasty chlorine to others they have in their possession...

.....of course the appeasist slugs will continue to be appeasist slugs....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 12:14 PM

And in case you did not know....

"Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population. "

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 4:56 PM

...Maybe we should bring the troops home to fight the immediate and more deadly invaders, then finish off the Muslims after they work on each other for a while...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at February 23, 2007 4:58 PM