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Anyone debating Dinesh D'Souza should be sure to do exactly as Serge Trifkovic did. Simply ask D'Souza a question or two about the most obvious and elementary of matters.
If nothing else, it will force him, after his "four years of studying Islam" to little effect, to actually have to start studying it -- if only so as not to play the fool in public. Why, who knows? It may force him to learn something.
I can think of a dozen things right off the bat that Spencer or Trifkovic or others could ask D'Souza -- very elementary things, but things I am sure he will not be able to answer.
He now has three choices:
1) Be shown up for an ignoramus, prating about things he knows very little, almost nothing, about.
2) Be forced to study Islam, and in so doing, he may have to modify some of his views.
3) Never appear where anyone can debate or even cross-question him about his knowledge of Islam.
I think Dinesh D'Souza will choose #3.
#1 is something he obscurely realizes he is, but like the mountebank hawking his wares at the County Fair, he has assumed that no one will call him on his hollow claims. But he can no longer assume that.
#2 requires work. It requires study. It requires thought. It requires making sense of many different things, of connecting the thigh-bone to the ankle-bone, in order the Hear the Word of the (Islamic) Lord. D'Souza long ago lost the habit of study, like so many of the pontificators of our day.
#3 it will be.
No more debates, for Dinesh D'Souza, with anyone at all. But what if -- for him, a hellish What If -- some of those interviewing him started to bone up on Islam, and asked him questions? What if on Talk Shows there were callers who would call up pretending that they were about to ask one thing, and then suddenly asked D'Souza one or more of those questions, the ones he cannot answer, to what should be his own great shame and chagrin? Then where would he be?
And the same can be done at those appearances he solicits for "Corporate Audiences" and "University Audiences." It is perfectly legitimate, it is hardly harassment, to simply ask him a few questions to see if this self-minted and self-described "expert on Islam" who has "studied it for four years" in fact knows anything.
Why, let's begin with the isnad-chain, and the work, and relative authority, of the muhaddithin. Or with "naskh." Or "fiqh" or "tafsir." Or for that matter, "Jihad" (give support for various definitions), or "dhimmi" or "Ahl al-dhimma."
And say, just what did happen at the Khaybar Oasis? And who was Asma bint Marwan? And who was little Aisha, and of what contemporary relevance is her story? And who can issue a fatwa, and what is the difference between a fatwa and a rukh? And what is the Treaty of Al-Hudaibiyya, and why does it matter? And who was Abu Bakr? Ali? Hussein? And what does the phrase "al-masjid al-aksa" mean, and who decided what that phrase must refer to?
As I said, let's keep it very simple -- at first. By degrees, the questions can become more difficult.
Don't worry. I have faith that no matter how hard Dinesh D'Souza starts studying now, he simply won't be able to figure it all out. Not given the list of his authorities. Not given his mental incapacity.
There is more on the entrepreneur and world-conqueror Dinesh D'Souza, from the best source of information about Dinesh D'Souza: the Dinesh D'Souza website, where the copy is written by -- Dinesh D'Souza.
Would you like Dinesh D'Souza to speak to your business convention, or perhaps to enlighten an annual meeting of the stockholders in Phoenix or Boca Raton? Well, you have come to the right place when you go to www.dineshdsouza.com, because according to Dinesh D'Souza at www.dineshdsouza.com:
"Dinesh D'Souza is one of the nation’s most popular and acclaimed speakers for business and university audiences, and has been a featured guest on many popular television programs, including the Today Show, Nightline, O'Reilly Factor, Good Morning America, and The Dennis Miller Show.He speaks at top universities and business groups across the country, and among his recent engagements are the annual World President's Organization conference, Forbes CEO Summit, Harvard University, and the University of Virginia.
Mr. D'Souza is available to speak on a variety of subjects relating to contemporary business, politics and culture, including:
THE CULTURAL LEFT AND ITS ROLE IN 9/11
THE LIBERAL-ISLAMIC ALLIANCE
THE WAR AGAINST THE WAR ON TERROR
AMERICA AND ITS ENEMIES
ISLAM AND THE WEST: A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS?
WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT AMERICA
WHY AMERICA IS LOVED, WHY AMERICA IS HATED
THE MORAL DEBATE OVER TECHNOLOGY AND CAPITALISM
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION? NO. REPARATIONS? NO.”
Hurry and call now to book Dinesh D'Souza for your next corporate or university event.
Don't delay. Operators are standing by.
No, sorry, let me correct that:
An Operator Is Standing By.
That operator's name is on the cover of the latest issue of the Dartmouth Alumni Magazine. The issue appears to have been written by the Development Office, hoping to win favor from some rich Muslim alumni -- for it is otherwise difficult to explain the special solicitude for the clear tone of apologetics.
The two articles listed on the cover (which has a nice crescent and star) under the main line "Understanding the Muslim World" are:
1) What's New in Islamic and Arabic Studies, by Andrea Useem '95.
In this article you can learn all about what students are learning about -- and it isn't the unadorned contents of Qur'an, hadith, and Sira. The words "dhimmi" and "Jizyah" are unlikely to be much in evidence in the Dartmouth classes on offer, but the innocent and impressionable students won't discover that in most other colleges either -- and will just have to pick up a real knowledge of "Islamic and Arabic studies" outside the confines of MESA Nostra (google "MESA Nostra" for more).
2) "Radical Islam: Why We've Got it All Wrong," by Dinesh D'Souza.
In this article you can learn why "we've got it all wrong" -- all of us: Snouck Hurgronje and Arthur Jeffery, St. Clair Tisdall and Joseph Schacht, David Margoliouth and Edmond Fagnan, Charles-Emmanuel Dufourcq and Hans Jansen, everyone who was a student of Islam in the Western world, in the golden, unafraid age, from about 1860 to 1960, when truths were told. Islam didn't change. The texts and teachings of Islam didn't change. What changed was the willingness of Western scholars to tell the truth about Islam. Now there is a climate of correctness and desire to blame the West. This attitude grew and grew until it now suffocates even baby truths in their cribs, as they attempt to let out their first squeals.
And "we've got it all wrong" if "we" are Ali Sina, and Ibn Warraq, and Irfan Khawaja, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Anwar Shaikh, and Azam Kamguian -- "we" who have been born into Islam, pondered it deeply, considered carefully what it is about it that led us, each on his own, to come to conclusions that forced us to jettison Islam. "We've" got it as wrong as C. Snouck Hurgronje and Joseph Schacht.
But one person, above all other persons, has it right.
And his name is Dinesh D'Souza.
And he is right about Islam, as about so many things, when all the world has heretofore gotten it wrong.
Dinesh D'Souza, it should not be forgotten, is available for corporate and university speaking engagements.
For more information, simply click on www.dineshdsouza.com and then on "Events" or "Corporate Speaking" or "University Speaking."
Then you may contact Dinesh D'Souza directly to find out more details -- especially about the fees.
Don't worry. Those fees are really, under the circumstances -- what with Dinesh D'Souza getting it at long last right when all of the rest of us have "got it all wrong" -- those fees are really very modest.
Don't delay. Call today.
That Operator Is Still Standing By.
Posted by Hugh at March 6, 2007 10:25 AM
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I dont pray for much but I do pray interviewers do "bone up" on Islam so they can ask a few pointed questions.
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at March 6, 2007 10:33 AM
D'Souza Keeps on Talking
*****
D'Souza keeps on talking,
Beginning to conceive
that the words of Muslim spokemen
are not what they believe.
The Muslim spokesman smiles and lies,
D'Souza smiles in stress.
As D'Souza keeps on talking,
we know less and less.
D'Souza has a fine career,
explaining Muslim thought.
Yet sometimes he may wonder
About the fog he wrought.
Study now, D'Souza,
back off the speaking biz.
The way to start to win the war
is to learn what Islam is.
at March 6, 2007 10:39 AM
I don't understand why you are glamorizing this guy. did you fall into the trap?
f*#k Dinesh D'Souza.
at March 6, 2007 10:41 AM
more important is Cheney stepping down?
and does Nancy get the position? or someone else?
is that dangerous?
at March 6, 2007 10:44 AM
The USC Muslim Students Association conveniently keeps a website where people can see for themselves what Mo had to say about various subjects, in their collection of Hadiths (sayings of Mohammad)
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/
The hadith collection is conveniently arranged in sections by category. I would urge all Westerners to take a look at section 52 (Jihaad) and section 53 (dividing up the loot)
Posted by: PapaBear at March 6, 2007 10:51 AM
Every now and then someone comes along who must be excoriated for their foolishness, their idiocy, their cashing in. It is not ad hominim when it is justifiable and true. Mr D'Souza has apparently found the message the people are willing to pay to hear. Pseudo-Conservatives lap it up when our "decadence" or Hollywood is blamed. There was a time when live models were not allowed in lingerie commercials on TV, when a cowboy could not go upstairs in the Longbranch Saloon arm in arm with a dance hall girl.
Yeah, blame Hollywood, liberalism, the permissive society. We dare not blame Islam.
Posted by: Pelayo at March 6, 2007 10:51 AM
In the above link, section 82 (punishment of disbelievers) and 84 (dealing with apostates) are also fun reading
Posted by: PapaBear at March 6, 2007 10:54 AM
"What if on Talk Shows there were callers who would call up pretending that they were about to ask one thing, and then suddenly asked D'Souza one or more of those questions, the ones he cannot answer, to what should be his own great shame and chagrin? Then where would he be?"
...What a marvelous idea...I bet it would work on just about any other Muslim appeaser or Muslim speaker on a talk show.....how quickly do you think you would hear...beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
at March 6, 2007 10:56 AM
PapaBear, thank you. We would do well to follow Hugh's advice, to step away from the world (for a time, or for short periods of time) and learn the details of Islam, a political belief system that our leadership and the fools in Europe insist on telling us is benevolent.
Posted by: StillBreathing at March 6, 2007 11:13 AM
US Constitution Amendment XXV,
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
Those who care to win this battle against the islamists better know our laws and rights inside out. You can damn sure bet the islamists do.
at March 6, 2007 11:26 AM
This is one of my favorites from the MSA site
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 47:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle used to visit Um Haran bint Milhan, who would offer him reals. Um-Haram was the wife of Ubada bin As-Samit. Allah's Apostle, once visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head.
at March 6, 2007 11:38 AM
Sobieski
Mo' mo' mo' mo' Jizya should have shaved his head and henna tinted beard. That would have denied his lice a place to nest. Unless they can infest arm pits and the nether regions (Aisha I'm talking to you!!)
Posted by: dennisw at March 6, 2007 11:54 AM
What I find pathetic about D'Souza is that with a little honest intellectual curiosity and effort he could learn a lot about Islam and why his theories are so wrong. I'm certainly no Islamic scholar, but with a little bit of research I've been able to learn a lot. A lot I didn't want to learn because I wanted to believe the "Religion of Peace" twaddle. But the truth beat down my wishes with a barrage of unpleasant facts. If I can do it, if I can realize how wrong I was, so can he.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at March 6, 2007 12:17 PM
Mr. D'Souza is available to speak on a variety of subjects relating to contemporary business, politics and culture, including:Now I'm confused. I thought that the Right should pick up 'traditional Muslims' as allies. But when he says he's available to talk about a Liberal-Islamic alliance (notice - not Islamist, not Islamo-Fascist, but Islamic - what are you, Dinesh - an Islamophobe?), isn't it about the fact that that alliance exists, rather than doesn't? And if it does, doesn't that make it totally worthless for traditional Americans to ally with traditional Muslims?
THE CULTURAL LEFT AND ITS ROLE IN 9/11
THE LIBERAL-ISLAMIC ALLIANCE
The Hoover institute needs to vacuum him out of there.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2007 12:32 PM
There is a problem with the questions Mr. Fitzgerald for Double D as anyone who has had contact with him finds out.
HE DOESN'T ANSWER WHAT YOU ASK!
His response is "I have a book".
He follows with "Real Conservatives do not sell books."
and ends with, "I am popular so therefore what I say is right".
What bothers me most about this affirmative action immigrant is the tarnish he is putting on the Hoover Institute, the Reagan legacy, the Truth and Conservatives.
Yes I informed him of that and he could care less.
That is who is speaking on terrorism along with other "experts", some of whom are Muslim immigrants in guiding US policy.
They are biased and idiots. God help our country.
at March 6, 2007 12:32 PM
@Jan Sobieski
Here's are some of my favorites. Real pearls of spirituality from Bukhari:
(1) Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible). (Book #4, Hadith #229)
(2) Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar: I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. " (Book #4, Hadith #231)
(3) Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun: I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them. (Book #4, Hadith #232)
(4) Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them. (Book #4, Hadith #233)
at March 6, 2007 1:06 PM
The 'umm al Muslimeen' seems to have been a lousy washing woman - surprising, since some Muslim the other day claimed here that they invented soap. Didn't she have an odd number of stones with her that would have done the trick?
Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2007 1:11 PM
D'Stupid is a Dartmouth Grad and teaching in Stanford, yet he can't be bothered with homework. He probably glanced at the Cliff Notes on Quraan. What a complete faker!
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at March 6, 2007 1:14 PM
damn!!!
I should have known that it was all my fault for being a long-haired moonbat ...
Now D'Souza has "lessened my self esteem" and made me feel like a "victim" - can I sue someone?
Posted by: drk at March 6, 2007 1:46 PM
Hugh -
I think you're wrong - but just in motivation.
Let's say, for argument (possibly a stretch), that DD isn't a complete fool. There is nothing good, and only misery, that will befall him if he publicly states anything counter to his books.
Publishers, like Doubleday, have far greater resources to punish those who lie to the giants.
at March 6, 2007 1:54 PM
"D'Stupid is a Dartmouth Grad and teaching in Stanford, yet he can't be bothered with homework."
-- from a posting above
One shouldn't make much of anyone's alma mater these days. No assurance of quality, because little Quality Control, anywhere. You have to know the individual. Remember: Cornel West went to Harvard, and taught there, and then was snapped up by Princeton and given a University Professorsip. And while that is all ye need to know, there are so many other similar scandalous examples, from those hired and promoted (and those not), and the courses taught, and the lectures given, that you can throw all fond assumptions about the "prestigious universities" right out the window, and you will be less foolable and saner for that defenestration.
Dartmouth is the school with which Michael Oren begins and ends his "Power, Faith, and Fantasy" with the much-travelled John and closes it with Nathaniel Flick, who served in Iraq -- and both had attended Dartmouth (Ledyard for a year). Like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, the value of Dartmouth's offerings vary by docent, by department, by doctoral program.
And the same is true for Stanford. But D'Souza does not teach at Stanford. He merely enjoys the same Palo Alto micro-climate. But what if he did teach at Stanford? Then so what? Joel Beinin, of MESA Nostra fame, and the "Palestinian people" business, teaches courses on the Middle East at Stanford, and you know what he knows about Islam -- nothing.
Much gnashing of teeth goes on about the state of colleges and universities. It's a bewailment well-earned. But what of research institutions, such as the Hoover? A little weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth could go on about that as well. The places where Sidney Hook and Robert Conquest both found a retirement home, and where some of the most significant papers have been deposited, such as those of the late Mark Vishniak, for many years the editor of "Sovremenniye Zapiski," and the Bakhmeteff Archive, and all kinds of Rossica and material pertaining to the Constitutional Democrats and the Left S.R.s, as well as papers pertaining to the Winners (those early Bolsheviks) can be found at Hoover.
But just as Cornel West swans along Nassau Street, Dinesh D'souza can be found, apparently, when he's not on some self-promoting speaking tour to pick up the check-filled envelopes, in and around the same campus. One hopes for the sake of the Hoover Institution that his appointment is temporary. Otherwise -- there goes the neighborhood.
at March 6, 2007 2:01 PM
But one person, above all other persons, has it right.
And his name is Dinesh D'Souza.
And he is right about Islam, as about so many things, when all the world has heretofore gotten it wrong.
Dinesh D'Souza, it should not be forgotten, is available for corporate and university speaking engagements.
Dinesh D’Souza: Dartmouth man; Stanford professor. Very prestigious; very impressive.
at March 6, 2007 3:03 PM
Much gnashing of teeth goes on about the state of colleges and universities. It's a bewailment well-earned. But what of research institutions, such as the Hoover?
Most of the research universities in America are state universities.
Like a tiring thoroughbred approaching the fourth turn, it is the Finishing Schools who are fading back to the pack (that being leading state universities), and in some cases have already got there or have faded even further backward.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at March 6, 2007 3:26 PM
this a$$hole is a mouthpiece for Islamic government, no?
there are tons of agent provacateurs out there like him, they are strategically placed at all seminars, conventions, speeches. the way to shut them down is to ignore them.
if you make more of a fuss over this guy he is completing his job.
gawd people, get a grip.
at March 6, 2007 4:03 PM
"An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs) is a person employed to associate with suspected individuals or groups with the purpose of inciting them to commit acts that will make them liable to punishment."
like the imams in the Minnesota airport... they want attention. and he sure is getting alot here!!!
shouldn't we really be concerned about who he's working for and why they feel the need to enlist such agents? I assure you that he's not independent.
Posted by: sectionOne at March 6, 2007 4:07 PM
I'm curious: anybody know, or have an estimate on, the fee DD can command for, let's say, a one-hour speaking engagement with q&a at, let's say, a non-ivy, medium sized university?
Posted by: deesine at March 6, 2007 4:15 PM
Allah's Apostle used to visit Um Haran bint Milhan, who would offer him reals. Um-Haram was the wife of Ubada bin As-Samit. Allah's Apostle, once visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head.
Posted by: John Sobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 6, 2007 11:38 AM
After reading a bunch of articles about MooHamHead, my impression is that if he ever existed, he was a Xross between Hitler and Casanova.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at March 6, 2007 5:58 PM
There is, of course, a much larger context to be extrapolated from this spectacularly entertaining Trifkovic - D'Souza eschange: namely, that in all likelihood it can be repeated ad infinitum using just about every dhimmi apologist as a substitute for Dinni the Dhimmi Dimwit.
Do not forget the crucial factor that made this revelation possible in the first place: Trifkovic is not a journalist. Journalists do not ask probing questions at Muslims or dhimmis. Journalists know less about Islam than does the average JW/DW reader; who are they to call anybody's bluff, even if they dared, or cared about their profession in the first place?
Trifkovic seized the moment and made a textbook example of what journalism should be all about (and which I seem to remember it being about, a long time ago?).
There are scores of little Dinnis out there, waiting to be told they have no clothes.
Posted by: anti-uffe at March 6, 2007 6:21 PM
Minor correction: Serge Trifkovic is indeed a journalist, but the point here was the fact that during this exchange he spoke for himself, and not as a representative of a media outlet, with all this entails in the sensitivity department. Laziness and lack of professional attitude aside, journalists are also bound hands and feet by their employers' fear of offending those-who-must-not-be-offended.
Posted by: anti-uffe at March 6, 2007 6:33 PM
deesine... a speaker like Alan Keyes or Henry Kissinger command $30,000 for a 3 hour engagement. some of that goes to their agent and pays for the limo and other transportation.
I suspect this dweeb costs much less or works for free because he's paid from a government slush fund. you want to hire him for some entertainment?
at March 6, 2007 8:07 PM
Hugh D'Souza has responded!!!!!
It appears D'Souza has responded today on his blog with a bonzi charge up the hill of reason!
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/03/06/bernard-lewis-vs-the-islamophobes/#cont
In which he continues to call Robert Spencer and Serge Trifkovic Islamophobes and breaks out his trusty Benard Lewis defense!
He then does something really wild in this entry:
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/03/06/its-not-a-religious-war/
In which he claims Iraq is not a religious civil war and Shia and Sunni love each other
at March 6, 2007 9:15 PM
D'souza is as slippery as an eel and twice as repulsive.
Let's permit him to slither back under the rock he crawled out from under (I think he's too much of a coward to crawl back out from it).
Posted by: pythagoras at March 6, 2007 9:54 PM
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