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March 7, 2007

Mesha'al gets Iran aid pledge

Hamas/Iran alliance cemented. Will Sunnis collaborate with Shi'ites? The learned analysts will deny it, but here is manifest proof. From Gulfnews, with thanks to Sr. Soph:

Tehran: Hamas leader Khalid Mesha'al extracted from Iran yesterday a pledge to fund his radical Palestinian movement to compensate for the West's financial blockade of the Palestinian government.

Mesha'al, who arrived in Iran early yesterday, told a press conference with Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki that Iran had been giving financial and political support to the Palestinians, whose government has been cut off from Western aid since Hamas took office in March last year.

"We still look forward to get support [from Iran] to break the political and economic sanctions," Mesha'al said.

Mottaki told reporters that Iran would continue to provide money to Hamas, but he did not give any figures.

Posted by Robert at March 7, 2007 7:28 AM
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I'm sure this is going to play very well in the streets of Tehran, where the bona fide protesters (as opposed to the hired claque) are fed up with Ahmadinijad plowing money into the Hezbullah statelet in southern Lebanon (where they are madly buying up land from Christian and Druze landowners who are no doubt eager to get the hell out of there) and the PA.

I'm not sure, however, how Hamas taking the Shi'ite coin is going to play in the Wahhabi heartland. Maybe the Umma is going to suffer a seizmic event entirely of its own making.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 7:39 AM


Isn't this a good thing if Israel and America does the next move they should? With Iran officially signed up to support Palestine, then Israel and America should withdraw any future support for this leach "state". They, and Europe, should publically acknowledge Iran's support for their muslim brothers. Then walk away forever and not say another word again about supporting "palestine". This is an opportunity to save taxpayers millions upon millions of wasted money on jihadist terrorists and put the ball firmly into muslim hands where it has always belonged. And it sets up the Modern World to then follow through with further withdrawls of billions of wasted money or "jizya" infidel tax. Of course, this would require somebody with intelligence in the White House who lives in the real world, recognizes the the facts about Islam, and thinks past his next hot meal.

Posted by: Abraham_Lincoln [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 7:46 AM

...besides financial blockades, the west should stop food, medicine, clothes, technical aide, communications support (satelite services),and educational aid to Palestine....Let them get these items from Iran also...Let Iran absorb the cost of feeding,funding and arming the Muslims all by theirselves....Put the wheels of civil dissent in Iran into motion...

....Whoever agrees with Iran gets the same treatment...Maybe the oil workers will stage a slowdown, maybe the students will become more vocal, maybe some sabotage will begin to occur on the railways and in the oilfields....it could happen...once the Iranians realize all their money is going elsewhere...

.....a naval blockcade of the area could be extremely effective....

...the Western nations could send a signal in strength if all would work together....Imagine no money, weapons, technology,food, medicine, clothes, technical support, education,or aid of any kind going to Muslim entities supporting terror....what a statement that would make...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 8:24 AM

Iran-mother of most Middle Eastern troubles. When will its criminal regime of fanatics be dealt with once and for all?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 9:40 AM

If nothing else, Western governments should realize that the Arabs and Iranians have all the money, the unearned and unmerited money, in the world, and if anyone is going to support (no one should, but some may insist) the "poor Palestinians" who are merely the local shock troops, raised up as irredentist fighters in the Lesser Jihad that does not have, and can not have, an end, it should be fellow Muslims. For all sorts of reasons, but above all in order to change the pscychology of the Western world, and also that of the Muslims, all payments by Infidels, all support by Infidels, to Muslim peoples and states must end: it always and everywhere becomes a Jizyah. It is treated as a Jizyah by the recipients, who regard it as theirs as a matter of right, as something the Infidels must pay. Just look at the bizarre behavior of the "Palestinians" and their outrage at being cut off from Western aid. Even though those "Palestinians" have killed Americans, including diplomats (Moore and Noel in Khartoum), and American government officials coming to Gaza to announce the local winners of American scholarships, even though the "Palestinians" have been championed by the egregious Carter, and Arafat was the foreign visitor most frequently entertained by the slightly-less-egregious Clinton, even though the cult of "Palestinianism" has had a good run all over the Western world, yet these people, when their foreign aid from the West is cut (they seem to have no trouble paying for huge quantities of arms, and save for the odd bomb attack by those opposed to Western decadence, their DVD-rental stores seem to be thriving, which tells us that this is not exactly Calcutta, much less the Warsaw ghetto (whatever a few morally-distrubed German bishops may think), call it "an economic boycott" or "economic blockade."

And if the attitude of the Muslim recipients of Western aid is one not of gratitutde in the slightest -- see Egypt, a world center of anti-American viciousness, whipped up by its press and radio and television, which has been the recipient of $60 billion in aid. For what? In order to achieve what? Egypt was not a whit less anti-American before that aid started, and indeed, it would be less anti-American today if the Americans were not seen a propping up the Family-and-Friends Regime of thick-necked Mubarak.

And then there is Pakistan. $27.5 billion since the World Trade Center attacks. For what? How is Al Qaeda doing, in its hidewaways in Pakistan? And how are the Taliban doing, as they re-enter Afghanistan, and are resupplied, from Pakistan? What was that aid for? And why does the government of Pakistan think it is entitled to such aid, as its every pronouncement demonstrates?

But just as bad as the outrageous attitude of Muslim receipients of Western, especially American aid, is the attitude of those who give it. For they exhibit more and more the classic behavior of the dhimmi under Muslim rule. That is, they give the aid, and then are afraid to cut it. They do so only very reluctantly. Only very reluctantly did the aid to the "Palestinians" stop, and so many, including the Europeans, are eager to turn on the Jizyah tap, to find some meaningless formula that will allow them to rush to empty their pockets all over Gaza and the "West Bank." Say anything, Hamas, just say you've got a "truce." Or say that you "recognize" Israel, by which you will mean that you take notice of its existence, nothing more, but we'll pretend you meant: We hereby declare that Israel is a sovereign state and is permanently here, and that's okay by us." Please, just say something, becuase it is hurting us not to renew that Jizyah. And the same is true with the American government, apparently terrified of cutting aid to Egypt, when that aid should have never started. If Egypt is indeed so "critical" to stability in the region, let the Saudis take a few billion from their mad-money slush fund, the one that is used to pay for even more mosques in London, Paris, Rome, and Washington, and prop up the Sunni regime in Egypt. And if they don't wish to support Egypt? Fine, then let the Egyptians resent the rich Arabs for not sharing their vast unmerited wealth, and not the American government for taking the money of taxpayers to provide, for the Egyptian elite, a style of living that we, those taxpayers, can scarcely imagine, much less imitate.

End the Jizyah. For god's sake. It isn't very complicated. It is the first step in getting the relations between Muslims and the West adjusted properly, in order to make sure that that West, superior in every way, is not eventually undermined and undone by the primitive adherents of a primitive and dangerous belief-system. That is the minimum one should ask of one's governmnet: that it stop paying the Jizyah.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 9:42 AM

End the Jizyah. For god's sake. It isn't very complicated. It is the first step in getting the relations between Muslims and the West adjusted properly, in order to make sure that that West, superior in every way, is not eventually undermined and undone by the primitive adherents of a primitive and dangerous belief-system. That is the minimum one should ask of one's governmnet: that it stop paying the Jizyah.

Posted by: Hugh at March 7, 2007 09:42 AM

Boy, if this isn't the truth. Sometimes I wonder about these relations-it's as if the West has to go hat in hand to the Infidelophobes all the time and ask for the basic necessities of life. It makes no sense to me that people of the 21st century should be in total thrall of a bunch of 7th century crackpots-if anything, it should be the other way around. If they want something, let them behave. Otherwise, give them NOTHING!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 10:08 AM

On the one hand we hear that Iran is having financial troubles. Where are they getting the money?
Let's see.... Russia visits Saudi Arabia... Iran visits Saudi Arabia... Saudi Arabia gets a lot of American Money... Boy those Saudi's sure are popular nowadays.

PS What happened to the 100 million that Israel just released to Palestine? Spent it as fast as the Barbie Bandits I bet.

OT Turkey has shut down Youtube and Kashmir has shut off foriegn TV.
Isolation, it's making me sad. (to the tune of Carol KIng's Anticipation)

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 11:31 AM

"OT Turkey has shut down Youtube and Kashmir has shut off foriegn TV.
Isolation, it's making me sad. (to the tune of Carol KIng's Anticipation)

Posted by: auntbea "


...Muslims are terrified of the truth ....Iran also locked out most internet service, made it illegal to own satellite dishes, and jams tv and radio signals....other Muslim contries do much of the same...The Muslims are fearful their people may actually develope a sense of questioning or curiosity...you know...begin to use their brain in a thinking manner....


....The only thing most Muslim youth hear all day , day in and day out, is the constant ravings of the insane Islamic clerics....government control,brainwashing and political indoctrination 24 hours a day....turning the people into mindless robots...these are the people you see at the Muslim protests, carrying hate banners and shouting hate slogans.

Muslims teach their young to be insensitive and absolutely obedient to the Islamic slavemasters...

That is one of the reasons that Muslim immigration must be banned.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 11:41 AM

I also read a post that Hamas lost all it's money investing in dot.com stocks. Poor managers of government and poor managers of finance.
Get a loan from the loanshark Iranians and they will be made to pay with blood.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 12:19 PM

It ls about time someone else pay the Palestinians bills. Must be some new Money for Tomatos Program. Is it possible they are running out of Rocks to throw and need something else instead?

Let Islam show its own Humanity by spending its own Money to support their own downtrodden.

Destroying Israel is not going to materilize some large ecomonic Jackpot. Saving themselfs from a self imposed Misery.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 12:49 PM

Khalid Mesha'al needs a bullet and Iran needs a bombing. Only then will it begin to end.

Posted by: Zenster [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 1:43 PM

Hugh as to what you wrote i wouldn't change a thing. In fact i quote "How hard would it be?" What in the world would we lose by not handing good for nothings our hard earned money? I do not wish to be Palistines or any other state or nations economy,especially islamic ones who want to destroy the hand that feeds them.

Can you imagine the positive impact ( you and others can of course )it would have by the west not doling out our money to fuel the wars we try to avoid or stop?

Where would the have nots turn to? And rightly so.
I read an article a while back that spoke of the amount of aid countries give. The house of saud gave just over two million and the home of lunatics (iran) gave near the same.The west gives way over 100% more than two of the worlds most oil rich nations.What is it we give palistine something like three hundred million,plus what Israel collects for them.Theres a joke there somewhere with Israel passing along money to the ones who wish to see them dead.

Everything is bass ackwards.I am completely dumfounded,most indubitably and without question.

I don't have much fondness for any politician past or present.To be president of the U.S. is a huge task in itself but it can be done well and properly if thier personal agendas were checked at the whitehouse doors.same goes for all other elected and appointed by the elected officials.

Aid is not meant to be a way of life.It is welfare a helping hand something to keep you going while you work to rise to your own two feet.The same goes for aid to nations as it does for individuals.Aid is not meant to sit your rear at home and do nothing till the check comes,much less fuel a constant war.

All we hear is how much our deficit is.why is that? How does it get that way? We are in hock up to the ying yang with china,for what? To give to those who wish only to do terrible things.If this is what people mean by we cause terrorism then i fully agree.We are terrorists in this manner.

"The tax payer: That's someone who works for the government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination."

"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of resposibility at the other."

The two quotes above are from the late President Ronald Reagan i was proud he was from my area.Too bad i can't say that about many other 'people' comming from my neck of the woods,OBAMA.

How many people out there think that if they organized a protest over such an item as the aid to the loser palistinians,how many people do you GUESS would show up?

I stood out in pouring rain years ago for a tax protest.People thought i was the idiot.They grumble under thier breathe about it,i stood up.

The only protests since the wars began were the enemy demanding our exit from islamic lands and our own citizens demanding the same.

Yes by all means let us leave the lands of hell and allow the devils to fend for themselves.It is time for right to be right and wrong to be wrong again.This is the correct reality politics or no.

keep rising monsters soon a roar so load as the deaf will cringe.

and i leave you with

"No arsenal,or no weopon in the arsenals of the world,is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we will be a nation gone under."

And all that jazz!

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 8:55 PM

nice to see iranian paying more money for their thugs on the pali streets. good lesson for Western governments, no more of our tax money going to ungrateful muslim countires, they can get it from oil rich mo brothers!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 8, 2007 2:31 AM

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