Stop Muslim immigration to the United States or one day face this type of violence right here.

Yes, it's that simple.

Posted by: Foehammer at March 7, 2007 8:42 AM

ROP, despite all we know and continue to witness...

Posted by: Moose at March 7, 2007 8:50 AM

Outrage at western decadence. Between tree-tapping jobs, he was watching re-runs of "American Bandstand."

Posted by: Hugh at March 7, 2007 9:01 AM

Once again another senseless killing of an innocent human being by the barbaric Muslims. They give no reason....I am sure this man was unarmed, threatening no one, he wasn't chasing babes in burkas, he wasn't chanting death to Islam, he was probably barefooted, wearing the barest of clothes, working in the forest to honestly earn money to buy food for his family....Working a honest job is something the Jihadists will not do, they prefer to run around lopping of the heads of old men and children...He may have been CHristian as many in that area are....if so, that would prove ethnic cleansing is happening as it usually does when Muslims begin to sense power....

...The other attacks were on Buddists, yet another sign that Muslims fear other religions, once again...ethnic cleansing....

such attacks continue often and as usual the attacker is Muslim...

that is why we must Ban Muslim Immigration now..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 9:10 AM

A 19-year-old Saudi woman who was kidnapped, beaten and gang raped by seven men who then took photos of their victim and threatened to kill her, was sentenced under the country's Islamic-based law to 90 lashes for the "crime" of being alone with a man not related to her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html

90 lashes..... that'll teach'er.

Posted by: Abrog8 at March 7, 2007 9:18 AM

In a few years or less, I bet that the Thai Muslims have their own country. Those living in the north don't seem to want to confront this situation. They only hope that it will go away, which, of course, it won't. There are Muslims living in northern Thailand too. Right now, they seem to be at peace with their neighbors. How many minutes will that last when their own co-religionists get another country to call their own?

Posted by: maryrose at March 7, 2007 9:20 AM

Thank goodness the coup of the Thai government by that muslim army general late last year has settled the muslim issue in the south. I bet all non-muslims are breathing easier now, at least those who still have heads to breathe with.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at March 7, 2007 9:28 AM

Yet another fatal case of Infidelophobia-the only phobia that kills and keeps on killing. The same cannot be said of the far more screeched about Islamophobia, which is basically a figment of the imagination.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at March 7, 2007 9:35 AM

When Muslims encroach on your terroritory, you must not run away or concede...The Muslims will only follow...sooner or later you have no where to run....better to arm yourself now and fight....

..in the meantime...ban Muslim Immigration..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 9:44 AM

despite its implications terroritory, it should be territory...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 9:50 AM

Obviously another case where USA "liberal society", "certain strains of US conservatism" pressured these otherwise submissive good and decent citizens, but "misunderstood gentlemen" into "cherry picking" the most violent passages from the Koran, taking those (only few) exhorting any knind of violence, and every sort of mayhem and other similar animal-like behaviour, and then carrying out these crimes against their fellow human beings. Damn the US liberalism and "certain strains of conservatism" - Thailands followers of submission will live in sharia's schackles even if means killing everyone!

Posted by: TINBH at March 7, 2007 9:55 AM

Folks,

I saw this article in Readers Digest (Feb-2007) by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and makes for an interesting reading. I see that there are several posts on this forum on articles written by FP. In this article he talks about his experiences as a converted muslim.

http://www.rd.com/content/openContent.do?contentId=33063

Posted by: Ishwar at March 7, 2007 10:19 AM

Yeah those Buddhists are certainly dangerous with all their, um...rubber tapping and living at peace with others and all.

/sarc off

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at March 7, 2007 10:29 AM

Ok now the question should be is how come the United States is not forcing democracy in Thailand? The elected government had taken a hard line against the Islamic groups in the south and now the dictatorship has only dhimmified themselves and guess what happens....more attacks!

When are the Buddhist people of Thailand going to rise up against this nonsense and go back the Plan A that was working? God I smell Arabian/Islamic money all over the current dictatorship with the head guy being a muslim. This should concern us all.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at March 7, 2007 10:48 AM

" guess what happens....more attacks!"

MUslims can smell weakness as keenly as a shark can smell blood in the ocean...the end result is the same...a feeding frenzy....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 11:02 AM

"If we address the Dearborn issue we may anger the muz, and then they will plot against us."

...."They" are already plotting,we are already seeing an ever increasing number of attacks against our populace by the Muslisms,the attackers when caught boast of their allegience to Islam and laugh at our ways, 80% of the Islamic mosques in the United States are led by militant radical Clerics....You can bet they are not teaching peace, co-existance and koom ba yah.....The Muslims arrive in small groups or singly, but all the time adding to the Islamic house of war, they are building large voting blocks and are taking over the local, state, and Federal positions, one by one....

...If we anger the Muslims by telling the truth to the citizens and we identify the terrorist as Muslims and by doing so, it angers the Muslims...then so be it...

...The reign of Islamic terror creeps ever so slowly in our neighborhoods..there is no doubt they plot against us....There is no doubt there are cells in the US right now plotting and planning for attacks...we have uncovered several...

We can at least slow down their troops by banning Muslim Immigratrion now...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 11:28 AM

We could always do what the French have done, and outlaw reporting by private citizens about the impotence of the police and the rampant violence des jeunes africaines de l'Afrique du nord...who are of no particular race or religion...nous sommes tous francais, maintenant, non?

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at March 7, 2007 11:33 AM

Where are the Human rights activists now??????
Where are the moderate muslims now????

If they can protest a cartoon with so much fervour,why not a beheading is protested????

And the human rights activists ,who protest a little bit of torture of terrorists in Guantanomo bay( eventually for future safety of the same human activists) why dont they protest now.

Posted by: Indiana_jones at March 7, 2007 11:37 AM

Is not this a bit of over kill? Rhetorical

Xerxes the Persian emperor at Thermopylae also in rage beheaded the corpse of Greek Spartan King Leonidas and then crucified his dead body.

Rage is all Islam seems to be a part of as the commit outrage over being outraged....yet they seem to find ways to become more outrageous in outraging the outrages.

I don't really want to consider what these thugs will think of next, but at least it is dead bodies they are venting on, allot like the torn up graves by Muslims in Kosovo.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at March 7, 2007 12:01 PM

Why do Muslims complain about the "genocide" and "apartheid" supposedly perpetrated by Israel, yet they don't even mention Thailand? Why do they go berserk when someone makes fun of Islam, yet they don't think twice about how "extremists" in Thailand are "misrepresenting" Inner Spiritual Struggle on a daily basis?

Many things become obvious when you look at the Muslim response (or lack of it) towards Thailand, and compare it with some other things.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at March 7, 2007 12:17 PM

"nous sommes tous francais, maintenant, non?

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah"

Les musulmans ne se considèrent pas Français du tout... qu'ils se considèrent des musulmans habitant en France.

The Muslims do not consider themselves French, They consider themselves Muslims living in France...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 12:20 PM

Lame Cherry

Xerxes was emperor of Persia long before Islam existed. Besides, the Persians lost the battle of Thermopylae.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 7, 2007 12:35 PM

The proper response is to raze Jihadist mosques and liquidate Jihadist imams. Liquidate the other men who lead the Jihadist mosques. The Thais must do this or Muslims will always be terrorizing them. Muslims only stop when they are living in fear of getting much greater terror in response

Posted by: dennisw at March 7, 2007 12:42 PM

"We could always do what the French have done, "

...bend over and proudly scream , oui....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 12:43 PM

Ishwar,

You'll probably enjoy this FP exchange between Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and his former boss at Al-Haramain.

Daveed is a regular contributor at FP.

Posted by: deesine at March 7, 2007 12:44 PM

When I was young we had a name for men who made concessions to other men who abused women, yellow dog is what we called em back then. It just goes to us show that our gubment institutions are riddled with mice not men. Dearbornistan? Send in the guard, dispatch any opposition, deport the rest then raze the whole place, not one brick should be left standing. Afterwards hold congressional hearing focusing on how many of our girls have been saved from a future of second class citizenship, physical abuse, rape, murder, to name a few. Harsh? Considering the alternative I don’t think so.

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 12:44 PM

How long will it take until the Western governments and media will finally acknowledge that a great deal
of muslim violence is firmly rooted in taking islam's teachings literaloly by the word?
How many people are killed in the name of allah - compared to how many in the name of Buddha, Jesus or any Hindu god?
Jesus set an example by living modestly and suffering pain for the sake of the people.
Mohammed obviously also set an example - by inflicting pain on others who didn't want to share the benefits of of his teachings. He became a wealthy man by being entitled to a fixed part of the loot his men made during their raids, by the way...
As long as muslims continue to refer to Mohammed as the perfect man their teachings will remain largely incompatible with Western values.
Is there e.g. one single islamic country that is not in clear violation of any of the human's rights like gender equality, non discrimination of minorities etc.?
The west should make sure, that - when muslims immigrate - they leave islam at the threshold. As long as there is no reformation, as long as there is no clear distanciation from taking Mohammed's teachings literally by the word. (Ever wondered why islamist behead and don't simply shoot their victims?) And as long as the qu'ran and the haddiths contain passages which islamists refer to frequently and virtually uncontradicted by "moderate" muslims when committing thier atrocities.

Posted by: flibustier at March 7, 2007 12:56 PM

Stop Muslim immigration to the United States or one day face this type of violence right here.

Yes, it's that simple.

Posted by: Foehammer at March 7, 2007 08:42 AM

Square that against increased student's visa for these wahhabbi barbarians; go figure: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200702/NAT20070216a.html

Posted by: Alert at March 7, 2007 12:57 PM

"How do we force our politicians to listen to us?"

"It is by force that we will have to get these guys to listen."

Were Patriots and real Americans in charge, the satanic cult of death in America would be but a bad memory.

Unfortunately those in charge are traitors, scum, and demons working overtime to INCREASE the flow of muslims to the Homeland, increase muslims in government, while simultaneously excusing almost every act of muslim terrorism. They to this day they refuse to name the enemy calling it instead "peaceful" and misdirect by saying there is a "war" on an emotion (terror) or a tactic (terrorism).

Had there only been one plane on 9/11, the first tower hit, we would be reading about a catastrophic navigational error and the cia would have made a video ala TWA 800 showing "what really happened."

The internal enemy is 1000 times more dangerous than the external enemy.

The external enemy can not succeed without the internal enemy.

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon at March 7, 2007 1:08 PM

FROM THE ABOVE POST : How do we force our politicians to listen to us? Letters/emails don't seem to work.
HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT THEIR VOTING RECORDS. In this day of internet vastness and with all of the whinning about polititians this,polititians that, you'd think our people would be the most educated on earth when it comes to electing qualified people to represent us.Find that record and post it on open sites like this. They use millions of dollars to advertise themselves, hold up the black and white when they come to your town for votes, ask them to explain votes that go against common sense.

Posted by: OLD SARGE at March 7, 2007 1:13 PM

s_sgt,
Running away never got anyone anywhere they wanted to go. I am not sure what the problem is with that state. It could be that the pols there are paralyzed with fear, fear of what, beheading and being set afire for starters. I have wondered, what do these islamist reps say to these pols in their secret meetings? Perhaps a warning to them about what will happen to their wives, children, extended family, friends, coworkers, brief acquaintances? I agree with you regarding the situation here, I have always believed we should have cleaned up our own yard before trying to clean up the world. The world is in bad shape and we need to consolidate our position here first, yes we can think of the USA as the position we occupy now but we are going to have to fight for it in the future.

It’s pre WWII Germany with the Hyper Nazis on the rampage right here in the good ole USA, shame on you Michigan, Congress, Gubment Institutions, President Bush!

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 1:15 PM

Deesine,

Thank you for the link. I hope more and more people like Daveed come out of the clutches of Islam and be free. That is the only way this menace can be dealt with because as Wafa Sultan says i don't think Islam can be reformed.

Posted by: Ishwar at March 7, 2007 1:23 PM

"In a few years or less, I bet that the Thai Muslims have their own country."

And that country had d@mn well better be Malaysia.

Simple solution: Whenever a dead Buddhist is found, go and burn down the nearest mosque, preferably during Friday prayers. Only when the local ummah feels threatened will they do anything about Islamic terrorism. Until then, it’s all jihad, all the time.

”despite its implications terroritory, it should be territory...”

“Terrortory” (the proper spelling for one of my better bon mots), is reserved strictly for reference to the Palestinians. Otherwise, carry on.

”...If we anger the Muslims by telling the truth to the citizens and we identify the terrorist as Muslims and by doing so, it angers the Muslims...then so be it...”

This is why it is so critical to implement an immediate ban of halal slaughtering plus any public wearing of the burqa and niqab. Just these bare few countermeasures would enrage the hardcore Islamic fundamentalists and make it easy to identify them. Those who could not withstand these minor curtailments of how sharia law is practiced within America’s borders should then be deported as non-integrating immigrants who effectively lied on their entry questionnaires.

”If they can protest a cartoon with so much fervour,why not a beheading is protested????”

That’s because no Muslims (or their precious bleeding endless sensitivities) were harmed in the making of this movie.

”How do we force our politicians to listen to us?”

By threatening to vote them out of office if they do not act, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY DOING IT IF THEY DON’T.

”I cannot believe that people at the level of the FBI, CIA and Pentagon actually resorted to pre-1960 levels of segregation.”

I cannot either and this sort of blatant favoritism needs to be legally overturned stat!

”The proper response is to raze Jihadist mosques and liquidate Jihadist imams. Liquidate the other men who lead the Jihadist mosques. The Thais must do this or Muslims will always be terrorizing them. Muslims only stop when they are living in fear of getting much greater terror in response”

Here’s one person who gets it. I like the way you think, dennisw!

Posted by: Zenster at March 7, 2007 1:27 PM

begin by denying muslim immigration,
ban new mosque building permits
ban veils, burkas, and other body covering clothes
deny Political and security positions to Muslims
deport all Muslims including their families if convicted of a felony..
deport all Muslims including their families for 3 misdemeanor charges.
make hate speeches or jihad praising speeches a felony...
require more frequent checks on temporary,student,or travel visa entries into the US.prosecute all who have not followed our immigration laws...if the visa holder cannot be located, a felony arrest warrant should be issued.
fingerprint and photograph all Muslims entering into the country..do background checks against fbi,cia,interpol and other computer databanks...
impose stricter travel guidelines for Muslims...
deny local,state,and federal loans and aid to Muslims....
do not allow Muslims to own land in the USA...
the list goes on and on...

These are similiar to the restrictions and laws imposed on NonMuslims in Muslim countries, therefore the Muslims in this country should not be surprised if we treat them exactly as we are treated in their countries....

call it racism, call it profiling, call it discriminatory,,,but above all call it survival....

Islam is at war with you and the Muslims are soldiers of Islam whether or not they are currently participating...it is only a matter of time,,they will strike when they feel they are superior...

As you say:

"we well know the methods they use to take over an area. Broken windows, spray painted signs, threats and harassment."

All you have to do is look at France,Spain,India,Thailand,Indonesia,Britain and other countries, you can see the same pattern of Muslims disrespecting your laws, your customs, your people, your land...

It is a Muslim March on civilization and it must be stopped...

...unfortunately the only thing Muslims understand is brute force...Do you remember Charlemagne...He conquered by brute force, he came about 100 years after Mohammed , I suspect he read about MOhammed as he used the same tactics, beheadings, brutal treatment, forced conversions. He routed the trouble makers....it may be necessary to do the same today in some sort of modern version...but it starts by denying the Muslims access to your property...

Ban Muslim Immigration NOW....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 1:32 PM

exsgtbrown for President!

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 1:41 PM

OT:

OT:

Refuting Islam on YouTube

Yep, I'm stirring the anthill. Finally.

Posted by: Foehammer at March 7, 2007 2:05 PM

QuadoLama,
We have been down the road of secession before, remember how that worked out? We are not going to cede a strategic location on the Great Lakes to the islamists. A couple of cities are islamisized and you are ready to call it a day. Wow, I am glad that many Americans past and present have thought otherwise. During the Revolution the country was split between each side with some areas being more pro or con. Just over 5% took to arms. http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/other/stats/warcost.htm
Pre civil War America was split, pre WWII we had a good number of fascist supporters as well, and lets not forget the commies that have always been here harassing us at any opportunity.
If the men of the past had thought as you do where do you think we would be right now? Would we have even ever existed?
BTW your sister has my sincere sympathy, I look forward to the day we will reclaim her homeland.

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 2:11 PM

No you are right we will just let them kill us. Uh huh. The men of the past had children, yes, they are out there. I don’t care what they do with the islamists of any color, I don’t care if they are related to George Washington himself, if they are islamists they must go. We haven’t yet fully joined this fight give us time. And if you think the Military doesn’t have contingency plans for this you don’t know American Military history. Don’t look to the pols to save you, the pols didn’t win WWII the people did. You seem to be a decent person but I have nothing in common with you even in this fight with the islamists, you seem to have already surrendered, so I won’t argue along these lines anymore.

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 3:32 PM

Perhaps you dont know that standing on a milk crate and poking your finger in the air while you rail against some unseen force is a fight with you. But for the people from Michigan it is our homes that are lost.

Posted by: QuadoLama at March 7, 2007 3:38 PM

Tree stump, you can’t get a decent milk crate anymore. I will grant that I have on occasion been guilty of railing but today is not one of them. I am confused, should I,
A.Have sympathy for you and yours.
B.Do what I can to aid you and yours.
C.Give up more of our territory to them as
you and yours have had to do.

Posted by: tgusa at March 7, 2007 4:05 PM

D. All of the above

Posted by: champ at March 7, 2007 4:41 PM

Did you ever have drug deals and prostitutes move into your neighborhood?...At first no one complains,...more move in, no one complains, ..suddenly burgarlies increase, no one complains, then there is a murder, no one complains...then there is vandalism , no one complains...the cycle gets worse with each full moon....suddenly you realize , you love your house and you are going to do something about it...you call the police when you send open drug dealing by your mail box..the cops come, arrest a couple of punks,, suddenly your car is keyed or tires slashed...you call the cops and complain , they cannot do anything just yet no proof, you install cameras on your property to catch the vandals in the act, you call the police to report the prostitutes are being a nuisance in front of your house,,the police come and arrest the prostitutes,,,suddenly your plants are ruined, your mailbox is trashed and your gargage door is grafitied, but this time you have video of the thugs, you call the police and give them the video, they take time , but they locate and arrest the thugs, suddenly the thugs are passing by your house shouting slurrs and giving you the finger...you call the police and give them a descripition of the car, the police of course cannot do anything...you keep reporting the drug dealers and the prostitutes and the vandals, you get your neighbors doing the same thing,, suddenly , after many incidents of vandalism, verbal abuse, some violence, you begin to see the drug dealers and prostitutes moving to some other area,,,they realize you nor your neighbors will not give in and that you and your neighbors are willing to fight...you begin to win....then you realize all this could have been avoided had you stood up for your rights to begin with...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 7, 2007 4:45 PM

Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly." (8:60)

I don't understand how Muslems can read the words of this evil book and be comforted by them. Satan is telling them that what they do to others will be done to them, and they can't figure out that he is poking at their eye with the golden rule. No one is so blind as the person that refuses to see.

Posted by: fedupinamerica at March 7, 2007 4:48 PM

Beheaders are just plain old executioners, except that executioners did it for money, while Mohammads
thugs did it for Allah and 72 virgins.
So what kind of person applys for the job of executioner or beheader? Is this someone you would invite over for dinner, or watch your children while you go out? Could you look at this person and not think about their job? Especially the beheader. Its bad enough to pull the switch or drop the pill, but beheading is so much more personal. What does beheading someone do to ones mentality, or to their soul, if they have one. What would this person do for a living, or for fun and entertainment, if they were not beheading someone? Beheading is the ultimate rape for power. It cannot be God who is filling the head of the beheader, if it's not God, Who/what is it?...you already know, dont you...

Posted by: duh_swami at March 7, 2007 5:53 PM

"So what kind of person applys for the job of executioner or beheader? Is this someone you would invite over for dinner, or watch your children while you go out? Could you look at this person and not think about their job? Especially the beheader. Its bad enough to pull the switch or drop the pill, but beheading is so much more personal. What does beheading someone do to ones mentality, or to their soul, if they have one."

Evidently, you just don't get it, duh_swami. Islamic executioners are looked up to and admired for their important "contributions" to Islamic law and order. They are proud of their work and would glady perform their task 24/7 if only a sufficient supply of offenders could be secured (and you can bet they're working on this). How better to serve Allah than by dispatching His most dire enemies? You may as well ask an American police officer if he would feel any regret over apprehending a proficient serial killer.

You are not talking about people with a functional conscience. One of Islam's signal functions is to eradicate any sort of autoscopic or introspective thought. This yields followers of the most unquestioning sort. Muslims, more than just about anything else, qualify as true believers by exhibiting all the best character traits of a well-constructed robot. The ability to unhesitatingly follow orders and obey the commands of their superiors is all that matters. How else do you think they can persuade young women and men to strap on several kilos of semtex before they visit a crowded pizza parlor?

"What would this person do for a living, or for fun and entertainment, if they were not beheading someone?"

Go out and watch or help somebody else behead someone.

Posted by: Zenster at March 7, 2007 6:20 PM

Yes,

La creme de la creme de le Islamic Law....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html

Posted by: theoldman at March 7, 2007 10:14 PM

ISLAM = Religion of Savages

Posted by: champ at March 7, 2007 10:47 PM

And who says Allah is not merciful: Was he quartered? Was he dragged through the streets? Was he fed to dogs? Was he strung from a pole? No, my friend, decapitation and immolation are mere paper cuts in the panoply of atrocities wrought by Islam.

Posted by: Mr. Slugworth at March 8, 2007 1:02 AM

Have you noticed that the Thai killings are very similar in nature? The bodies are beheaded and the heads are left somewhere else-------or is it the heads are lopped off and the bodies are trucked off somewhere else. Could there be two competing groups? The "headies" and the "bodies" dukeing it out in good old Thailand!

Ill bet that the "headies" are sunni and the "bodies" are shia!

Cant we all just get along????

Posted by: guide inside at March 8, 2007 3:30 AM

Quadolama---If we give them a couple of states; I guess our flag would be 48 stars and a couple of little turds.

Posted by: guide inside at March 8, 2007 3:39 AM

"---If we give them a couple of states; "

...they will then want more....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 8, 2007 7:47 AM

Exactly!!

Posted by: guide inside at March 8, 2007 11:58 AM

"No, my friend, decapitation and immolation are mere paper cuts in the panoply of atrocities wrought by Islam."

Then, permit me to say, that dal al-Harb is undergoing the death of a thousand papercuts.

Posted by: Zenster at March 9, 2007 10:09 PM