"And no one is asking why the Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims isn't doing anything to stop it,"

...Muslims will be Muslims, no matter what type of Muslim they are calling themselves at the Time...

...They don't object because they believe it to be correct.....Their silence should serve as an Exclaimation Point....

inch by inch, step by step....NIAGRA FALLS!!!

Ban Muslim Immigration now...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at March 10, 2007 12:32 PM

America will turn to Islam never.........

Posted by: The Texican at March 10, 2007 12:34 PM

Why would a peaceful Muslim speak out against violence which benefits them.

Topple Saudi Arabia by driving America out...they get the billions in oil instead of a shiek.

Topple Israel, they get all that land and Jewish industry.

Topple America, they get to rape, murder, drug traffic, slavery and money launder with Islamic blessing.

Violence benefits the "peaceful Muslim", so they are not going to speak out. Not until like the "peaceful Indian" met the United States military in Custer, Dodge, Miles and Crook in having their livelihood destroyed for aiding Indians on the warpath did actual peace occur.
This is an Indian war and if you re read the old histories such as Theodore Roosevelt mentioning that Indians at one time thought it was ok to murder Chinese people as they were not human mirrors exactly the Japanese Shogun, Nazi supremacist to the modern Muslim.

Unless peaceful Muslims are meant to pay for violence which benefits them they are going to keep right on supporting bin Laden and company.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at March 10, 2007 12:38 PM

It's as simple as this.

If America can't stop the gangs...

then America can't stop the muslim takeover.

Like I said before you have to humiliate the jihadis so not rational or self respecting muslim or convert will want to associate with them.

You need to narrow their sphere of influence.

And lastly, they must be told that their families will pay a price if the family knowlingly helped the jihadist.

If they didn't know then just shame them.

Fathers need to pull the reins in on their sons and let them know the stupidity will not be tolerated.

Some of you may think this is Polyanish but you must start at some point t0o take action, and it is better to start early so you can cut down on the violence.

If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here.

Posted by: Mekoots at March 10, 2007 12:48 PM

Mekoots said:

If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here.

Here is a must-read article for those who want western civilization to triumph over Islamic totalitarianism:

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-winter/no-substitute-for-victory.asp#_edn11

Posted by: Michael Smith at March 10, 2007 12:52 PM

Sorry, that link takes you to the bottom of the article. Follow this one instead:

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-winter/no-substitute-for-victory.asp#

Posted by: Michael Smith at March 10, 2007 12:54 PM

“the underground trade in hate talk.”

This is exactly why we don’t want laws censoring this material. It would just go deeper underground and the authorities (if we can call them authorities these days) would be able to pretend it doesn’t exist with greater ease than they do today. We need to spread the word and the islamist propaganda is the best messenger of that word. Most westerners have no intention of living as they do so the more exposure the better. The pols should be holding hearings on the material itself, not how to ban the material. They should be holding it up for all to see and saying, see this is what is going on out there, this is the behavior being promoted and or ignored. The people would not be pleased with what they see and hear.

Posted by: tgusa at March 10, 2007 1:02 PM

Islam literally promises humanity the moon. Look at the top of the next mosque spire you pass if you don't believe me (it will have a crescent moon atop it more than likely).

And it has learned to hype itself it as the greatest thing before or since sliced bread.

But what are the Muslims NOT telling the world about Islam that would stop would-be converters dead (possibly literally) in their tracks?

That Islam teaches its followers to commit first degree murder, of course!

For those who think otherwise, here is my favorite Kuran quote verbatim (IN context): "And when the forbidden months have ended, slay the unbelievers everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, torture them, prepare every stratagem of warfare against them; levy the tax upon their conversion to the ways of al-lah...."

THAT command being given in this stanza is first degree murder (although it may be repeated as necessary and also constitutes conspiracy to commit murder--ANOTHER capital crime). How many people could this possibly appeal to?? How many people out there would comprehend that since this is al-lah's law it may neither be amended nor omitted, only obeyed? All converters to Islam are stuck with Islam's homicidal (carefully concealed to the outside world) nature. Not pretty. Not at all.

A suggestion to those out there who may be considering conversion to Islam (along with a few questions). Does the prospect of sticking a machete into a(screaming)person appeal to you? Does the propsect of watching someone being hacked to death inside a mosque at a Friday service turn you on? Does lying to outsiders to conceal murderous intentions towards them turn you on just a little bit? If you have said "no" to any of the previous questions, there you have it: Islam is NOT for you! Get a REAL religion (which excludes Islam in our books). And cultivate a respect for human life while you're at it. The world has far too many murderers as it is without adding you to an already ridiculously overcrowded roster.

Posted by: pythagoras at March 10, 2007 1:29 PM

americaningermany,
You are either sincere and are really concerned about what is going on or you are a stealthlamist posting here to tell us in your opinion what is unthinkable, to drag down morale. You have to make up your mind eventually, are you a fighter or a whiner, you can’t be both and do either of them well. It makes no sense to predict a future of doom and gloom, what we have and where we are is the way that it is. We all know the problem, solutions are what we need.

Posted by: tgusa at March 10, 2007 1:38 PM

To stop Sharia Law.Stop all Muslim immigration.There haven't been a country in the world that have a majority non muslim population that have adopted Sharia Law.Stoping all Muslim immigration is one of the ways to peacefuly and nonviolently defend oursleves.It's proactive.If we don't then we will have to defend oursleves violently.An once of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Posted by: RED at March 10, 2007 1:41 PM

In their own way, all religions envision s world made into their image, but it's by force of moral superiority. Only Islam wants to do it by brute force. I don't care how much money they have, it's not going to work.

Posted by: jewdog at March 10, 2007 2:01 PM

If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here. - Mekoots

Jihad Watch has suggested plenty of these. To name a few:

- Cut off aid (jizya) to Islamic countries-- our putative "friends and allies" who continue to to stab us in the back in various ways. For example, Egypt and Pakistan.

- Get off of foreign oil, both to stop funding countries with jihadist sympathies (as well as overseas dawa campaigns like that of Saudi Arabia), and to eliminate any influence countries have over US policy because we're dependent on their oil.

- Stop the erosion of Western legal systems to accomodate increasing Muslim populations-- in other words, creeping Sharia.

- Stop taking in "refugees" from Islamic countries for a lifetime of public assistance in a Western countries. By simultaneously allowing the mass influx of refugees, and pumping millions of dollars in aid into those countries, we enable them to go on without cleaning their own house and making their own country more liveable and less corrupt.

Also:

- Implement a "welfare-to-work" program for immigrants already on public assistance, including compulsory education, especially in northern Europe. Limit the time frame during which an immigrant/refugee is allowed to be on welfare in a lifetime, as well, so that welfare is a last resort, rather than a lifestyle.

There are easily many more.

Posted by: MarisolJW at March 10, 2007 2:09 PM

tgusa --

What is your plan? What are your ideas? Clobbering other posters is not productive, and I would rather hear what YOUR solutions. What are they?

My solution, and Mekoots won't like it, is to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. All of them. Like yesterday.

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 2:17 PM

Lame Cherry, I have some respectful comments to you post:

Topple Saudi Arabia by driving America out...they get the billions in oil instead of a shiek. Without infidels working the oil fields, production will soon decrease to zero.

Topple Israel, they get all that land and Jewish industry. Remember what happened to the greenhouses that the Israelis left behind? They fell into disuse and are now worthless.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 10, 2007 2:28 PM

"If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here."

First, I don't bevieve that Islam is spreading throughout the world due to conversion. The Muslim population is increasing because of it's tremendous birth rate. If the Muslim poputation is anything, it is young. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about this, but sit back and watch.

Secondly, Christian nations are doomed to be swamped by the world's Muslims because we are goverened by self-centered and selfish ideologies.
The ideology of birth control tells us that the good life depends on how few children we have, So we glorify small families with few children because that allows us to accumulate the material things we lust after. In addition, small families use less of the would's natural resources, thus making them good custodians of the environment.

The ideology of abortion is much the same as the ideology of birth control, but with the added glorification of "rights" and "liberation" -- a woman's right to control her own body and to liberate women from Male domination.

One has to wonder what arguments these ideologues will use to defend themselves when sharia law becomes the law of the land? Muslims won't allow themselves to be bogged down arguing the finer points of "rights", "freedom" and "liberstion." They simply kill you for breaking God's laws.

We in the Western world, must begin saving ourselves by, first, encouraging and glorifying large families as assets to our nation and civilization. Secondly, Abortion should be condemed and outlawed as the murder of a child and treason to our nation and civilization.

For those who think these are harsh measures, ask yourself what life would be like under Islamic law?

The bottom line is that Muslims won't convert their way into power, they'll simply wait for the people of the West to abort themselves out of existence. Think this isn't true? Americans have already aborted 40 million fetuses, and Europeans have killed even more.

And Muslims know and relish this fact.

Posted by: rational at March 10, 2007 2:30 PM

Speaking of Iranian nukes, has anybody noticed that Russia is the enabler? Russia also supplies weapons to the most radical Mideast forces.
Russia is the power behind the throne of Jihad.
China also lurks there.
It makes sense really. Russia and China are unprincipled dictatorships, just out for power. They're a perfect match for a ruthless power ideology like Islam.
We really need to take off the gloves with Russia and end strategic and economic cooperation. We should also actively promote the further breakup of the KGB Republic, because that's really all the Putrid regime is, a.k.a "Polonium and Old Lace."

Posted by: jewdog at March 10, 2007 2:33 PM

champ,
That is your idea? I’m glad you aren’t running the show. Guess what, they already have nukes. Oh sure the gubment will say they don’t but can you tell me the last time they were right? Do you think we can run around the world blowing up every wmd we think we know the location to? Do you think that paki scientist gave nuke technology to iran and the norks and stopped there? If americaningermany is unhappy with my post she can say so. If you have been around and paying attention you would have read my ideas/solutions. My plan starts right here in the USA and includes many of the same ideas posted above. Your bully tactics don’t work on me.

Posted by: tgusa at March 10, 2007 2:38 PM

Excellent point rational!! Muslims are breeding like rabbits, while we are supporting abortion through our legislation.

Do the math!

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 2:43 PM

I am not bullying you, tgusa, but you did try to bully american. I was simply putting your question to her back on you. If that's bullying to you, then I'm sorry. I did not mean to bully you. Forgive me.

I still think that destroying their nuclear facilities is a necessary step. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 2:53 PM

americaningermany

Who's going to stop them?
You, and I, and all of us at JW, and the proud Aussies that have demonstrated a lot more backbone than the rest of the world.

We also have to keep a keen eye on those who are enabling Islamic imperialism with their claims of moral superiority meant to maintain their power in society: the political, economic and cultural/academic elites. Fight them wherever they are, whoever they are. Expose their lies, like Robert did with D'Souza, whether "conservatives" or "leftists."
Comming out of a communist country taught me that, Russian armies on the ground after WWII or not, the whole tragedy was possible only because of the many, many levels of opportunists and malcontents and collaborators that profited from the upheaval ("revolution") to get on top. They continue to be in power, whether as oligarchs or politicians or Secret Police or all of them.
Watch those profiteers from Islam "victimhood" industry closely. I am. Like D'Souza, their motivation is their own advancement and power and fame, an American dimension that was not a factor in Eastern Europe, where a military prosecutor who had sent hundreds of innocents to the gulag in the 50s and 60s just wanted to live the good life in retirement, unknown to the neighbors, quietly, taking his walks in the park undisturbed by conscience or law.
The collaborators with Jihad crave fame.
Go get them. It's easier than with the communist collabos.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at March 10, 2007 3:17 PM

I bullied, show me exactly how? What question, I didn’t ask one, I was making a statement. And while you are at it tell me what I stated that was untrue? I don’t use caps, on the net that’s yelling. Maybe my post hit a little close to home, hmm?

That could be a part of a larger battleplan but we would need to be a whole lot more determined to fight than we have shown we are. Its not just iran, the problem is global and will require a global solution, every thing else is just marching in place. Thankfully some posters have not forgotten the red menace, it is still out there perhaps even bigger than the former ussr. So now we not only have our old reliable enemy the reds but we now have another added to that. So the world gets more complicated each day. One of my solutions, lots of nuclear submarines, if they get us I want to know that even though I may no longer exist, myself and other dead Americans will be able to reach out from the grave and strike them down, down so far they will never get up.

Posted by: tgusa at March 10, 2007 3:19 PM

Americans, I have some questions -

As a European, I have watched all of our countries speed toward their eventual decline. I cannot get the History of the Western Roman Empire out of my head. In the end, there was apathy, inability to control their borders, and finally an inability to raise a proper army. I see this happening to the States and it makes me sad.

I have written this before - Right now, the media would have you believe that the whole world hates the Yanks. Say what you want about George; however, at least your President and your Country will fight. I worry about Western Civilization. So, I stand with the Americans. Europe has failed. "Political Correctness" has established a foothold here. It is not popular to say this; but, only the Americans are really doing something about this.

Why must I respect Islam? Why must I see Christians and Jews ridiculed in our own media? Religion of Peace?!?!?!? So far, I have not seen anything resembling peace from the East. Sure, they have their Pillars of Faith.....However, are they currently living by them???

Americans, do not vote in an unabashed liberal as President! Please!! It is time to get mean. It is so improper to use the word "Crusade;" however, why not? Why not? And, please do not start going on and on about abuses done in the name of a Crusade 800 years ago. That was then and this is now. The reality is that Western Civilization is at a crossroad. What will we do? My Continent has failed. I truly hope that America does not forget people jumping out of a World Trade Center Tower rather than burning to death. An angry America is a righteous weapon. Do not give up and do not give in!

I will never kneel in a Mosque!

Posted by: LouisRusso at March 10, 2007 3:29 PM

more racsim from so called "peace" loving muslims.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6437731.stm

this time a mother and son, white, europeans kidnapped and threatened with slaughter.

any muslims reading this. please note, you need to on the streets today protesting this racist, anti-european kidnapping, obviously this is against islam. you need to stop this racism and the MSM needs to address the fact that muslims are the most racist most violent peoples on this earth of "OURS"!!!

i really can't write anymore, i feel sick, disgusted muslims, you need psychiatric help, all of you.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at March 10, 2007 3:43 PM

I guess the good news is that the Australian Herald Sun is actually doing an audit of these bookshops and publishing the results. I read the Sun and it is heartening to see that when Andrew Bolt, a columnist, does an article on the latest Islamic outrage that the comments from readers are, in the main, very much in line with jihadwatch. In fact this site is sometimes mentioned.

Posted by: cathkins at March 10, 2007 4:04 PM

If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here.

1. Stop all immigration of Muslims

2. Deport any Muslim who advocates sharia or Jihad, regardless of immigration status.

Thats it.

The first is not illegal, as it is within our ambit who to let into the country.

The second is slightly more difficult, but once we name the enemy, which 5 years after 9/11 our politicians still do not have the courage to do, it becomes straightforward, as no state can tolerate a group of people which threaten the state's existence.

Posted by: DP111 at March 10, 2007 4:17 PM

Mekoots asks:

"If you have any non-violent, creative ways to stop the spread of jihadism post it here.

STOP BUYING ANY MORE OIL FROM ISLAMIST NATIONS.

Form a "coalition of the willing" among major non-Muslim nations (including Japan and India) that will boycott the imports of oil from Islamist nations. Supertankers carrying that oil will be turned back and not allowed to dock in Western countries.

Along with that, new legislation must be passed by federal, state, county and local governments, mandating disinvestment in any companies that do business with Islamist countries. Hit those companies in the pocketbook and they will pull out of the Muslim world.

If China wants to become so dependent on Islamist oil, so much the worse for them; eventually they will learn the hard way what we've already learned the hard way.

This has to be coupled with emergency measures domestically to cushion the admittedly major blow to the economies of the Western nations. But I am confident that with the right fiscal and monetary policies, we will survive. But without their oil revenue, the Islamist states will soon collapse.

Posted by: Steven L. at March 10, 2007 4:20 PM

If the Aussies had any common sense, they should arrest, deport all muslims who support, advocate sharia law and sedition. So should all of the western civilization.

All muslims who support sharia law and sedition, should lose their citizenship and be deported to their country of origin (back to the hole they crawled out of)

Europeans need to wake up. Your cultures need to be preserved. Islam is a scourge on humanity. The muslims say their intentions are peaceful . Do not believe them. They are lying. Just ask the foolish Christians in Lebanon who allowed the Palestinians into their land.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at March 10, 2007 4:47 PM

Glad to see a more solution-oriented turn in the posts. We are all on the same side, and we are all frustrated with the inability of Western civilization to even acknowledge that it is at risk.

Stopping immigration from Muslim countries (er even better Muslims from any countries) would be an excellent step, but we can't do that--at least not now. There isn't the will or the awareness to do so. So long as Islam is a recognized religion, the First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment in the hands of the ACLU will mean nothing happens.

So a more realistic yet valuable first step is to side-step the issue of Islam per se and focus on loyalty to the U.S. Constitution as opposed to say Shariah law. Robert's questionnaire is an excellent beginning. We need to send copies of it to our respective Senators and Congresspersons.

My vote would be to pressure our politicians as a group to focus on the questionnaire.

Posted by: JSobieski at March 10, 2007 4:47 PM

The comments that are left on this website are highly offensive. has it never crossed the minds of the people that send them that what they are saying are hurtful as well as ignorant. before you condem a religion and its people do you not think to even try and meet one and see what they are really like- your false views are based on propaganda that is based on either incorrect, biased or misinterpretated information.

for any one who has come across muslims that are equivical to the views posted here then im sorry on their behalf but as a muslim i can honestly tell you that not all muslims are like that. unfortuantely muslims ARE being brainwashed by people who call themselves preachers of islam - and this i do admit, but for you to say muslims sit there in silence is a blatent lie.

we do try to stop people who preach about terrorism and violence. however this is not as easy to target as it appears and is not helped by the comments made on this site which could only ever incite anger.

the mere fact that this website has the nerve to say that, just because they allow the postage of these messages does not mean that they endorse it, is ridiculus. the fact that you allow such hatred says more about the people that run this site then the actual comments themselves do.

i now that IF this message is posted then someone will criticise but all i have to say is open your mind first and look at it from my point of view.
signed a muslim with a heart-
dont be surprised - were not all cold canines like other hypocrites out there - take the hint.

Posted by: educated and rate it at March 10, 2007 5:00 PM

Some fast track solutions for America:

Ban all halal butchering. By existing legal definitions it is an inhumane practice.

Ban wearing the burqa and niqab in public. Such face coverings are a security threat.

Just these two simple measures would bring the radicals out of the woodwork where we could identify and monitor them. Many fundamentalists would leave the country. A total win-win for America.

Posted by: Zenster at March 10, 2007 5:16 PM

educated and rate it:
You said:

>>
before you condem a religion and its people do you not think to even try and meet one and see what they are really like- your false views are based on propaganda that is based on either incorrect, biased or misinterpretated information.

===

Well I do condemn it.
I condemn it on the basis of the Quran, the Hadith collections (Salih Bukhari & Salih Muslim) & the Sira. And I also condemn it on the basis of History.

People in this newsgroup are not ignorant as to what Islam teaches. We know that Islam has a dark side that Muslims hide from non-Muslims.
We know that Islam is totalitarian, it seeks to dominate the world by guile, by stealth, by force until all countries are ruled by Muslims.
That was what Muhammad intended.

"educated and rate it"
- do I need to remind you of the Islamic conquest of Spain for 800 years?

- do I need to remind you of the Islamic conquest of Syria, Egypt, Libya, Algeria?

- do I need to talk to you about Islamic practices of booty, enslavement, murder of non-Muslims living peacefully in their countries?

So dont dare tell me of "false views, incorrect, biased or misinterpretated information".
If necessary I can quote solid verifiable facts.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at March 10, 2007 5:18 PM

LouisRusso:

There was nothing wrong with the Crusades. In fact, they were a very noble but failed attempt by Christianized western Europeans to prevent the Arabs from destroying the last vestiges of Christianity and civilization in the Middle east. It is tragic for the world that the Crusades ultimately failed to accomplish what they set out to do: stop Islamification of the Middle east. Europe lost thousands of good young men fighting in these anti-islamic wars,too.

Although it did appear from the US Mid-term election results that the Bush Adfministration has finally worn out its welcome with the American public, it is not entirely clear what the Bush Administration's final straw in fact was. In the last election, Bush won by at least 2 million votes and the Iraq 'War' was already underway (and, according to the media, Bush was almost as unpopular then as he is now). It is entirely possible that the American public isn't on a liberal swing after all. It may just be that this administration had made too many foul-ups (especially with domestic policy). There were a number of domestic policies Bush was pushing that raised my hackles and I could not have been the only one (and I don't happen to be a 'libera;" at all). (I was among the few who personally didn't care about Bush's Iraq invasion, which didn't bother me at all).

I do agree with you that a leftist US president would at this point in history be a complete disaster for America, but it is not clear that this is what is going to happen--but like you I truly hope not.

There are plenty of Americans around who would still be more than happy to defend their country militarily if it was necessary. Many of the Minutemen guarding the US border are conservatives volunteering to protect America, So all is not (yet) lost. So apathy does not rule here. And it IS still possible to raise an army here (we also have robotic soldiers now too).

Thank you for sticking up for us, Louis! (It's something of a rare treat for us when that happens).

Sincerely,

Pythagoras

Posted by: pythagoras at March 10, 2007 5:28 PM

For the majority of posters here:

I also like the solution-orientated approach.

But I still think we have major obstacles in terms of "liberals" in Western countries.
Most of these people are oblivious to the danger.
And most of these people beleive that somehow Muslims can be accomodated. And some "liberals" are in considerable positions of power.

I do know that in trying to convince "liberals", our facts at our fingertips have to intracontravertible. It is why I admire Robert in that in his confrontations with Muslims and "liberals", these people will stop at nothing to trip him up or catch him out in someway, therefore, you have to _very_ careful.

The worse thing for us is if Western Muslims be reasonable and bide their time, growing numerically stronger and so do the long game.

I am hoping civil war breaks out between Shia and Sunni as that will focus the danger on Western minds

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at March 10, 2007 5:31 PM

educated and rate it --

The only Muslim I have 'personally' ever known used to work for my husband and I as our general manager, and for the sake of his privacy, we will call his name Mike.

He called himself a "moderate" Muslim, and at first we really liked Mike, until we got to know him.

I used to receive calls from Mike's wife, as did my husband, pleading for our help because Mike would beat her, and I guess she thought that we were the only people she knew that could help her.

Another thing that was very disturbing about this "moderate" was his attitude towards Israel. He hated Israel/Jews, and he was very outspoken about it!

I have a bumper sticker on my car that says, "I Stand For Israel", and I gave one to my husband to put on his car; but he didn't want to use it for fear that Mike would start another argument with him.

Not all "moderate" Muslims beat their wives and hate Israel, but it does make me wonder where you stand.

Most men/women would agree that you should never hit a woman, and not everyone stands behind Israel. But it does make me wonder where YOU stand with Israel.

Do you recognize Israel? Do you love the Jews? What do you think, what do you say, what do you "do" when you hear Ahmadinejad say that he wants to "wipe Israel off of the map".

Thank you.

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 5:35 PM

I condemn muslims and their death cult book they follow. Unfortunately I can't tell the difference on which one will act on it..as their silence is disturbing.

You can't erase what their book commands them to do. They even say it in their own words what their aim is and where they see sharia in terms of gov't. Listening to keith ellison talk to his muslim audience was disturbing and everyone..and I mean everyone should be disturbed he made it in to the reps and talks openly about how muslims will show America what *justice* is. Are we really that stupid not to connect that to his thinking about sharia law?

*stop muslims from coming into free worlds
*encourage our own birth rate by lowering taxes or other means..right now, I'd not call the usa family financial friendly. I struggle and have a good solid education.
*bomb anything that even resembles weapons cache, nuclear facility
*Surround Iran with the other countries with our bases so we can act asap
*absolutely do not allow them air superiority...don't let them launch space ships and satellites.
*stop visas period coming from muslim countries. I'm sick of us educating them and then them blowing us up
*boot CAIR out..and for the love of pete, stop giving them tax exempt status! The ACLU has done enough damage because people won't call it what it is...and now CAIR is on the scene and people are not calling it for what it is.
*label muslim faith as a cult, not a religion. Calling it a religion gives it same status and consideration as other valid religions that aren't calling for our death.

At this point, it's about survival...period. Time to stop being PC and trying to have compassion for a cult that would rather see us dead. We need to be the bigger people here now..and save our way of life...not cower and cater because of what the loons and muslims think of us.

Can I run for President now? hehe.

Posted by: Highrise at March 10, 2007 5:38 PM

The comments that are left on this website are highly offensive.

Then don't read them. This is a free country.

has it never crossed the minds of the people that send them that what they are saying are hurtful as well as ignorant.

Gotta love it. The old ruse of charging ignorance. Jihad Watch is specifically devoted to combating ignorance about Islam in general and jihad in particular. I suggest you read the article at this web site titled, "Charging Ignorance to Fool the Ignorant". Here's the link:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015565.php#comments

Few people who post at this web site are ignorant on the topic of Islam. I sincerely doubt if your knowledge of it is any better than the least informed poster at this site.

before you condem a religion and its people do you not think to even try and meet one and see what they are really like- your false views are based on propaganda that is based on either incorrect, biased or misinterpretated information.

I've tried and then came 9-11, Bali, Madrid, London and endless other terrorist atrocities, the overwhelming majority of which are caused by Muslims.

we do try to stop people who preach about terrorism and violence.

The efforts you refer to are essentially imperceptable to the world at large. I suggest that you redouble those efforts and then redouble them again before time, along with patience, runs out and something really nasty happens to Islam.

however this is not as easy to target as it appears and is not helped by the comments made on this site which could only ever incite anger.

Fabulous, so if we say that Islam creates killers, it's going to "incite anger". Threatening us with danger becuase we are excercising free speech and free thought is exactly why so many people have such a low opinion of Islam.

Allow me to refer you to another thread at this site:

Muslims call for beheading of Christian preacher who called them killers

Here's the link:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015574.php#comments

I will congratulate you on dropping by and confirming exactly what many of here already know. Your games and threats are well-known to many of us and we refuse to countenance it.

You are completely out of your depth, educated and rate it. While you're at it, why don't you show some respect for other people and learn how to use the "Shift" keys on your computer's keyboard. You might be able to more easily convince people that you actually are "educated".

Posted by: Zenster at March 10, 2007 5:41 PM

Highrise --

I like all of your suggestions, and I especially liked your last point: "label Muslim faith as a cult, not a religion. Calling it a religion, etc....."

Right on!!! Islam is more a "system of government" than it is a religion. I mean, how can anyone argue against "BECAUSE GOD SAID SO".

Islam wants to rule the world, so they made up some crap about a god that supports their murderous agenda. Outrageous!

I'd vote for you :)

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 5:53 PM

I have a novel idea, but it will require some really extreme measures. Have the police enforce the laws! Aggressively go after bigamists, islamist sexual segregationists, halal food processors, wife beaters, of course to find the beaters we would have to ban the disguise/mask, I mean, why do you think they really wear those things? There is no shortage of good ideas and most of these have been mildly antagonistic. Nothing is completely non antagonistic to them. There are some highly antagonistic non violent legal methods we could employ that have not as of yet been discussed here. To do those things we would have to get, as is said, really mean.

Posted by: tgusa at March 10, 2007 6:14 PM

educated and rate it wrote:
"The comments that are left on this website are highly offensive."

Wow, what an opening. The obligatory insulted Islamist, never giving an inch of credence to the topics discussed here, just condemning them wholesale, as insulting.

educated and rate it wrote:
"your false views are based on propaganda that is based on either incorrect, biased or misinterpretated information."

This is a qualifying statement by the Islamist that the "false views" come from a variety of flawed sources, without of course, providing one single solitary example of a false view, in particular.

educated and rate it wrote:
"for any one who has come across muslims that are equivical to the views posted here then im sorry on their behalf but as a muslim i can honestly tell you that not all muslims are like that."

No one seriously considers the individual cognitive workings of 1.4 billion Muslims to be identical. In fact, individual Muslims are irrelevant, it is Islam, taken from the immutable texts, as applied, that is the problem, your apologies aside.

educated and rate it wrote:
"unfortuantely muslims ARE being brainwashed by people who call themselves preachers of islam - and this i do admit, but for you to say muslims sit there in silence is a blatent lie."

OK, so the admission is there and that is a start. But what the Islamist's statements cannot support is that if these people are not preaching true Islam, then they are heretics, and would obviously be slapped with a fatwah from legitimate Islamic scholars. It is odd that I've never heard of a single example of this. Has anyone else?

educated and rate it wrote:
"we do try to stop people who preach about terrorism and violence. however this is not as easy to target as it appears and is not helped by the comments made on this site which could only ever incite anger."

So stopping Islamic heresy, from those preaching violent jihad, is "difficult". The Islamist then actually has the unmitigated gaul to say that sites like Jihad Watch add to the difficulty, by merely pointing out the obvious truth about Islam. The last line about comments on this site is a true gem. It is a classic example of tu quoque, insinuating that if we would just stop commenting on Islam as it exists, and as a by-product of our commenting on it, humiliate it, then the problems we have identified would just go away. Absurd.

educated and rate it wrote:
"the mere fact that this website has the nerve to say that"

The nerve to say "That", which has been left completely undefined by this poster is indicative of the entire sloppy post. He just re-affirms all the things that we have learned here about Islam, rendering himself another useful idiot, but of a degraded form, one that makes Naseem appear semi-intelligent.

educated and rate it wrote:
"the fact that you allow such hatred says more about the people that run this site then the actual comments themselves do."

Another useless, ad hominem attack on Robert, Hugh, et al. It is completely non-substantive in nature, and quite typical from the Islamist. Nothing new here.

educated and rate it wrote:
"i now that IF this message is posted"

This particular Islamist is obviously accustomed to sites where any differing opinions from the main ideological vein of the site are never posted. This is confirmed with his choice to capitalize the word IF.

Well my "friend", your message was posted, but in retrospect, you might consider this unfortunate, for revealing "your point of view".

For Allah's sake, please DO post again. That was explicit, no need to "take the hint", on that one.

Posted by: awake at March 10, 2007 6:24 PM

There's so much of it, authorities are powerless to stop it. And no one is asking why the Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims isn't doing anything to stop it.....

How long will this silly question be asked and repeated, the time to answer which, has come and gone. If "Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims" wished to do somthing about it they would have already done so. By doing nothing they are serving the umma, "muslim brotheres" and the larger Islamic cause. In addition to holding the fort for their cousins i,e, muslim brothers, the "Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims" have been rewarded a bonus to the ummma as fools see a "Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims" where there arn't any. Not only that, the same fools then confuse others (ofcourse the same fools are bewildered at their own foolishness) like them, increasing the ranks of confused fools. All they have to do is say "Repeat after me... Izlum is a religion of peace"... and fools follow:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html

Ofcourse, these seeming fools are amply rewarded for their "foolishness" (i.e. turing a blind eye): http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html

Who would expect president/commander-in-chief/leader-of-free-world tohave close ties to the wahhabis who slaughtered his civilians (if he considers Americans 'his').?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/041203metwithbinladen.html

Finally no.. am not a democrat..... just am alert American.

Posted by: Alert at March 10, 2007 6:26 PM

"Peaceful Muslims" are really non committals to what really drives Islam in the first place, so why should anyone expect any effective backwash from them against the tide of the fundamentalist tsunami pushing Sharia? I think there is a lack of objective reasoning present when the idea is expressed "why isn't there a concerted movement within Islam against Jihad?".

The radicals control any Islamic movements within Muslim saturated nations & even the mosques outside of the middle east, so any organized effort is going to take place in nations that are viewed as having anti-Islamic leanings and EVEN outside the Mosques in them. Is having a meeting in a hotel in St. Petersburg, Florida going to generate the same influence among Muslims if it was held at a Mosque...say somewhere in the middle east? Except we all know what would have happened then...and it probably would have involved guns & explosives.

Posted by: SoteriA at March 10, 2007 6:39 PM

A politician has one job. To get more votes than his opponent.

A CEO in the business world has one job. To maximize the rate of return for shareholders.

Now that politics is boiling down to expanding an unsustainable social safety net, there’s not much room on either of those plates for defending the culture. Everything has become a bad business.

On the ‘solutions’ front, one thing to do is just be a good Citizen (even in the absence of political leadership). Join a fraternal organization and share what we share here. Be able to live independently for up to a year in the absence of electricity. Know that the Constitution will likely be suspended in response to any significant action, and that the time to buy a gun is now.

Posted by: pez at March 10, 2007 6:47 PM

Those of us, who really care and worry about the future of America, who believe in doing what it takes to save our beloved nation, our kids, our grand-kids, our future, our security, our freedom and the sacrifices made to make us proud of the grate nation that America is, here is what we can all do:

https://www.campaigncontribution.com/version6/process/info.asp?id=3748&jid=&firstname=&lastname=&address1=&city=&state=&zip=&email=&amount=&employer=&occupation=&homephone=&layout=&language=

Let us give America, a chance.

Posted by: Alert at March 10, 2007 6:49 PM

Here is where America's future is: http://www.teamtancredo.com/

Posted by: Alert at March 10, 2007 6:51 PM

Islam is derived from the arabic root word of 'salam' - peace; Not only does it preach coexistence with people who have different beliefs, but it also emphasises on assisting non-muslims (be it Christians, Jews or Idol Worshippers) in a humane way.

According to the Quran, there is a verse that states, 'There is no compulsion in religion, truly the right way has become distinct from that of the wrong path.' If God does not force people to follow Islam, the muslims are only obliged to 'encourage good and shun evil' (Quotation from the Quran) i.e. they can preach Islam and try to guide others onto the right path.

Studying the history of Islam reveals that it is a religion that was not spread by the sword as claimed by many, but by people who followed the laws of Islam and thus attracted others into embracing the religion of Islam after all Actions do speak louder than words!

It is therefore very sad that extremists who have their own version of Islam - contrary to that of what the Prophet of Islam preached grab the headlines and create misconceptions about Islam. Worce still, they use the disguise of Islam to pepertrate their own ideologies which clearly contradict those that Islam is based upon.

In summary, it is painful that extremists are currently having an upperhand in propagating their corrupted claim of Islamic Laws. However, it has been prophesised that towards the end of the world, there will be about 73 different groups that will be claiming to be the true muslims but only 1 will not be rightly guided.

Majority maybe might but in this case they are not right. The 72 groups may be having a great advantage in publicising their own interpretations of Islam, but this should not prevent you from finding about the true Islam.

What is the true Islam? For starters, you can try www.al-islam.org. Islam cannot be summed in a website but indeed this will provide any intelligent being with the perfect stepping stone into discovering the True Islam.

Please accept my sincerest apologies for not providing the exact references for the above quotations but I will try to God-willing find the exact location of these verses and eventually update my comments

Posted by: The Doctor at March 10, 2007 7:35 PM

Fight dhimmitude and visit http://www.masada1234.blogspot.com !

Posted by: Bar Kochba at March 10, 2007 7:37 PM

9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

Feel the love.

Posted by: pez at March 10, 2007 7:39 PM

educated and rate it

please look at the pictures of the mother and her son, kidnapped in iraq, good natured people, europeans, under the gun from islamic fascist RACISTS! and then get back to us and tell us that we are the ones spreading hate!!!!!!

WE NEED TO END ISLAMIC RACISM AND KICK THEM OFF THIS PLANET SO THAT THE REST OF US CAN LIVE IN PEACE, ALL RACES IN HARMONY. I'M SICK OF MUSLIMS AND THEIR MARXIST ALLIES!

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at March 10, 2007 8:14 PM

to the doctor.

er, the other root word for salem, i believe is the bite from a snake or insect or the tanning of horse leather!

but i still believe that islam is a cult, for the mentally ill. you may as well believe in little green men at the bottom of your garden, that come out at midnight, do a jig and drink purple tea. who cares what your made up koran means, we, westerners are being force fed your garbage and quite frankly, we have had enough.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at March 10, 2007 8:18 PM

The Doctor said:

Studying the history of Islam reveals that it is a religion that was not spread by the sword as claimed by many, but by people who followed the laws of Islam and thus attracted others into embracing the religion of Islam after all Actions do speak louder than words!

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I have studied history Doctor, better than you.

You mean that Muslims conquering Jeruasalem & Damascus in 637AD - that never happened?

You mean that Muslims conquering Egypt in 641AD -that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims raiding Sicily in 666AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims doing campaigns against the Berbers in 700AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims subjugating Spain from 711AD to 1492AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims occupying Nimes, France in 725AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims being defeated in Tours, France by Charles Martel in 732AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims invading the Punjab in 1019AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims annexing Albania in 1462AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims conquering Belgrade in 1521AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims laying seige to Vienna in 1529AD - that never happened either?

You mean that Muslims laying seige to Vienna again in 1683AD - that never happened either?

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There has been nothing but systematic enslavement, theft, rape, murder of Jews and Christians and non-Muslims over 1400 years.
Dhimmi like status has been enacted many times.

The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" is myth.
It might have been "Golden Age" for Muslims, never for those that had to live under them.

So do you deny all this Doctor?
There are Muslim historians that we can consult.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at March 10, 2007 8:45 PM

"It might have been 'Golden Age' for Muslims, never for those that had to live under them"

LOL!!!

Posted by: champ at March 10, 2007 8:52 PM

"Studying the history of Islam reveals that it is a religion that was not spread by the sword as claimed by many, but by people who followed the laws of Islam and thus attracted others into embracing the religion of Islam after all Actions do speak louder than words!"

Oh great another whitewashed historically revised sales presentation that doesn't align with any facts outside of Islam. Sorry but no one is buying this easier to swallow "Islam has no fangs...only smiles" b.s. anymore. Yes "actions" speak louder than words, and the 7,000 acts of Islamic terrorism since 9/11 hasn't changed my mind at all.

Posted by: SoteriA at March 10, 2007 8:53 PM

To the Doctor, Educated and other flag wavers of the Religion of Peace:

Don't tell it to me. Convince your murdering, enslaving co-religionists. As these demons threaten the ideals of my country and the lives of my family and friends, I will fight in self defense with the zeal of a Crusader. I could give a shit about your Mohammed and the dogma that comes from your Koran, but when your herd of swine raise their swords and try to stick it on me, then I and those like me will fight back.
Islam has modern day blood of innocents on its hands. Wash it off before you start preaching to me.

Posted by: Briars at March 10, 2007 9:47 PM

The world has waited 1400 years for the vast majority of Muslims to take care of that tiny minority of extremist misunderstanders. The reason it hasn't happened is because the vast majority knows that the tiny minority is, in fact, practicing Islam correctly and probably more faithfully than they are. That hidden imam that Iran's Monkey Man is waiting for will show up before that majority ever does anything regarding that minority.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at March 10, 2007 10:45 PM

"Excellent point rational!! Muslims are breeding like rabbits, while we are supporting abortion through our legislation.

Do the math!"

Champ,

Interesting, isn't it, that the post following this one, titled "Australian Muslim leader: Lack of faith in Islam causes drought, climate change and pollution" makes exactly the same point, except that it's not being made by you or I, but by Imans throughout the Western world.

They rightly observe that the West is killing itself with its low birth rate, and that Muslim birth rates are soaring in Western countries, insuring the demise of civilization as we know it.

The tragedy is that people in the West don't give a damn. They'd rather cling to their selfish pursuit of the good life, and the feminist ideology of 'a Woman's right to abortion", rather than do what is necessary to defend themselves and their civilization against the approaching Islamic catastrophe.

As the Imans are telling us, all they have to do is wait.

Posted by: rational at March 10, 2007 10:59 PM

Adding what to do to stop Islamization without weapons:
- ban Sharia Law, even criminalize it.
- run a campaign among Muslims to educate them on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
- have the Mosques, like the Churches, open to anyone.
- also ask a question to all visitors and prospective immigrants on whether they support Sharia Law. If their answer is ‘yes’, simply deny the visa. If they say ‘no’ but become Sharia Law supporters after their arrival, it means they lied to immigration and should be deported.

But it seems quite unlikely that a non-violent solution will come in Europe. Hopefully this will be the eye-opening in North-America.

Another thing is, immigrants from Mexico, even the ilegals, may be a blessing in disguise. They are predominatly Christian ...

Posted by: calatrava at March 10, 2007 11:24 PM

"- also ask a question to all visitors and prospective immigrants on whether they support Sharia Law. If their answer is ‘yes’, simply deny the visa. If they say ‘no’ but become Sharia Law supporters after their arrival, it means they lied to immigration and should be deported."

That would be fun to see, but they would do a burka dance right around that with one word...

ahl-tah-KAY-uh...uh-huh-uh-huh-uh-huh

Posted by: SoteriA at March 10, 2007 11:41 PM

"As the Imans are telling us, all they have to do is wait."

Brutal as the following observations may be, I stand by it nonetheless.

Jihad simply cannot and will not wait. Islam refuses to accept any postponment of its assault upon the West, regardless of its negative impact upon Muslim majority nations. However many more senseless deaths it causes, it will outstrip the far more glacial pace of slow jihad's demographic displacement.

In an intense irony, jihad's proclivity for mass murder will save the vast majority of us from Islam's withering embrace. Long before Muslims become voting majorities in the countries they currently colonize, Islam will have committed a final atrocity of such hideously astounding proportions that our only response will be the Muslim holocaust.

A signal hallmark of Islam is that of overreaching itself. It does so now and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. There is absolutely no indication that this will change in any way. Therefore, it is quite safe to assume that jihadis will be unable to resist the temptation of committing an atrocity that finally triggers the Muslim holocaust.

As Wretchard observes in his superb piece, "The Three Conjectures":

... there exists no competent Islamic authority, no supreme imam who could stop a jihad on behalf of the whole Muslim world. Even if the terror chiefs could somehow be contacted in this apocalyptic [nuclear] scenario and persuaded to bury the hatchet, the lack of command and control imposed by the cell structure would prevent them from reining in their minions. Due to the fixity of intent, attacks would continue for as long as capability remained. Under these circumstances, any American government would eventually be compelled by public desperation to finish the exchange by entering -1 x 10^9 in the final right hand column: total retaliatory extermination.

The so-called strengths of Islamic terrorism: fanatical intent; lack of a centralized leadership; absence of a final authority and cellular structure guarantee uncontrollable escalation once the nuclear threshold is crossed. Therefore the 'rational' American response to the initiation of terrorist WMD attack would be all out retaliation from the outset.

It is supremely ironic that the survival of the Islamic world should hinge on an American victory in the War on Terror, the last chance to prevent that terrible day in which all the decisions will have already been made for us. That effort really consists of two separate aspects: a campaign to destroy the locus of militant Islam and prevent their acquisition of WMDs; and an attempt to awaken the world to the urgency of the threat. While American arms have proven irresistible, much of Europe, as well as moderates in the Islamic world, remain blind to the danger and indeed increase it.

As Wretchard so capably observes, this is Islam's golden hour. Much like the vital 60 minutes within which a severely injured patient must reach adequate medical care, Islam is in the concluding phases of its earthly existence.

It is no coincidence that Muslim imams are causing the needless death and paralysis of fellow believers by proscribing polio vaccinations. Islam’s obsessive rejection of all things Western resulted in the murder of chief surgeon Dr Abdul Ghani Khan, director of a regional Pakistani immunization drive. Triage protocol demands that a violently psychotic patient who repeatedly harms those doctors seeking to assist him be denied all further treatment. Thusly, Islam's incessant atrocities gradually disqualifies it from all further interdiction with any chance at all of saving it. Witness the ingratitude that is liberated Iraq and ask no further questions.

In exactly the same way, Islam ardently seeks to injure those who have within their grasp the only means of saving it from itself. With devastating prescience, Wretchard notes how "It is supremely ironic that the survival of the Islamic world should hinge on an American victory in the War on Terror, the last chance to prevent that terrible day in which all the decisions will have already been made for us.” Islam fights us tooth and nail as we desperately attempt to avert its own self-destruction.

How much longer must we suffer such gratuitous insult and injury in the attempt to save our most dire enemy from its own suicidal inclinations? The words of a 1980 speech in Qom by Ayatollah Khomeini ring clear:

’We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. I say, let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant.'

How much longer must we be obliged to perform this thankless task? How many more thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars must the West expend before throwing our hands up in exasperation and simply opting for a swift and conclusive end to this madness? Islam must be read the riot act. In no uncertain terms there must be made a clear declaration that all further hostilities have to cease at the expense of Islam’s very corporeal existence. The only alternative is continued sacrifice upon the West’s part as it attempts to avert the inevitable. Anything else is merely a fork in the road to madness. Islam delenda est.

Posted by: Zenster at March 11, 2007 1:15 AM

A propagandist above brings out the old chestnut about there being "no compulsion in religion." Perhaps he is unaware that in the lands conquered by Muslims they offered, as Qur'an and Sunnah tell them to offer, only three possibilities to non-Muslims: death, conversion, or (if they happen to be ahl al-kitab, People of the Book, that is Christians or Jews, or treated as such at some point, as happened to Zoroastrians and, after some 60-70 million of them had been killed, even the Hindus -- so as to keep the Jizyah flowing) the status of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity known as that of the "dhimmi." Isn't that a form of "compulsion" in religion? If one is forced to pay a burdensome tax, forbidden from suing Muslims at law, forbidden from repairing or building new houses of worship, forbidden from marrying a Muslim woman without converting to Islam first, forbidden from all kinds of things which add up to a condition that in many cases was nearly unendurable, so that, over time, those Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians who constituted outside of Arabia proper, the original population of the Middle East and North Africa, over time steadily became more and more islamized. That certainly constitutes "compulsion in religion." And in any case, the meaning traditionally given that over-quoted line (a favorite of apologists who assume that Infidel audiences will simply take it at face value) does not mean what it appears to say. It means merely that you cannot compel deep inner belief, but you can certainly can compel outward conformity with it (i.e. outwardly showing belief in Islam, whatever one inwardly might feel).

The history of Islamic conquest shows that there has been, from Spain to the East Indies in space, and from the seventh century until now, a great deal of "compulsion in religion" by Muslim rulers on the non-Muslims they conquered. And there is to this day, with the intolerable pressures put on the most helpless, such as the Mandeans in Iraq, or to a lesser extent, the Copts in Egypt, the Christians in Lebanon and in the "West Bank" and the Chaldeans and Assyrians of Iraq.

Of course in Islam there is "compulsion in Islam." It's all over the place, and not only in the Middle East. When Christian schoolgirls are decapitated in Indonesia, and thousands of churches burned, or Buddhist villagers decaptitated all over southern Thailand, or Hindus beaten to death in Bangladesh, or attacked in Pakistan or driven out by the hundreds of thousands from Kashmir, when if they converted to Islam they would be left alone, surely over time that has its effect. Not everyone can heroically withstand such persecution and threat of murder and actual murder.

That may be defined as "compulsion in religion."

Posted by: Hugh at March 11, 2007 1:22 AM

Doctor, thanks for the pep talk but we're well acquainted with islam, which means "submission", not "peace". I studied Middle Eastern History extensively in college, so that's been covered. To sum it up in a few words: When islam was spawned, desolation ensued. Islamic history is a study in carnage, barbarism, genocide and wanton destruction, one of history's most malevolent, devastating chapters.

It is so very disconcerting that muslims, in their brainwashed, twisted minds, are capable of transposing good and evil. Evil is good because allah wills it. Good is evil because allah wills it. Islam and psychosis are conjoined like venal, inseparable Siamese twins, and muslims, blinded by the dissonance so obvious to the unindoctrinated, actually believe the illogical and mendacious platitudes they disseminate.

Posted by: Susanp at March 11, 2007 1:52 AM

"Islam and psychosis are conjoined like venal, inseparable Siamese twins, and muslims, blinded by the dissonance so obvious to the unindoctrinated, actually believe the illogical and mendacious platitudes they disseminate."

Author! Author!

Posted by: Zenster at March 11, 2007 3:17 AM

"Actually, the mother is German, married to an Iraqi doctor, her son is Iraqi and they haven't lived in Germany for many years. They have German passports and that's about it."

Callous as it might sound; Any woman idiotic enough to marry a Muslim ...

Posted by: Zenster at March 11, 2007 4:20 AM

americaningermany,
I know that is not your intention, and I know you are very concerned with the happenings all around us. In my opinion you are a kind and decent woman and the thoughts you have are a perfectly natural result of that. I like you and therefore I don’t want to see you drag yourself down, worrying about things that may or may not be true, may or may not happen. Where this fight will lead us is unknown but for sure we will need every clear thinking mind we can get our hands on. Don’t get mad, don’t get sad, get even. You are not alone, you are surrounded by people who will never give up, never back down, no matter if it leads us to the gates of hell itself. Tell us all about Germany, what is going on there regarding the islamists. It is hard to find out exactly what the truth is “over there” given that our media is working for the enemy.

Posted by: tgusa at March 11, 2007 12:38 PM

Humble beginnings or a lone voice?

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/03/11/christian-democrat-leader-fred-nile-calls-for-a-halt-to-muslim-immigration/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 11, 2007 1:36 PM

Another one: The taxpayer should not have to bear the costs of "hair-weaves" for African (many of whom are muslims) asylum seekers living here, with the excuse that it is part of their heritage and therefore they cannot be refused such luxuries even while living on welfare.
americaningermany

And that is why the indigenous people have to work such long hours to pay for such stupidity. Is that really something that is paid for? Unbelievable.

It's stuff happening like that which causes people to force a change in gov't.

Posted by: Borg at March 11, 2007 2:11 PM

The islamist/global warming convergence.
The drug=oil. The drug addict=the West. The drug dealer=the ME. Who is more responsible for this global warming, this environmental catastrophe? Mars is warming too, are we causing that as well? Cold or Hot, which type of day do you prefer? If we make the world colder, wouldn’t we have to burn more fuel to heat us in the winter? What kind of world does agor want, one where we are allowed 1 hour a day on the internet, computers use energy. Cars, will we be told when and where we are allowed to drive? How about food, cow flatulence is dangerous, will we be able to get a hamburger? Agor will, he will have credit. No, I see a future a lot like the movie Soylent Green, only colder.

Posted by: tgusa at March 11, 2007 2:17 PM

Thank you for the reply Pythagoras!

Posted by: LouisRusso at March 11, 2007 3:44 PM

It looks funny to read all your comments but im not making any fun. Why are you wasting your time in thinking of how to deal with Islam or whatever? If you read the Hadith, concerning the world before Doomsday, then you will learn that how and why are all these happening. The Muslims believe that a 'yellow race' will rule the world before the end of time, can't we see the rising of China and the East? It is also written there that Muslims will spread in all continents and will be the fastest growing religion. It is written Muslims will fight Muslims, there will be injustice everywhere, Iraq will 'receive a shock', well there are too many to paste in here. Try to study these at least and you will understand that we are living in a world which has already been given a fate by God.. life is mysterious.. just be good and cool..

Posted by: CoollyMysterious at March 11, 2007 3:57 PM

However, it has been prophesised that towards the end of the world, there will be about 73 different groups that will be claiming to be the true muslims but only 1 will not be rightly guided.

Hello Doc. We dont have the time or the inclination to wait until the end of the world to find out which one of the 73 groups is not humanphobic, mysogynist and murderously violent of the Islamic groups. If you would be so kind, as you are the learned doctor, to inform us which one it is that is the true "there is no compulsion in Islam" one, it will save us no end of bother.

Posted by: DP111 at March 11, 2007 4:58 PM

".. just be good and cool.."

[slaps palm to forehead]

D'oh! Why didn't I think of that? All that's missing is the peace, love and brown rice. What a solution to this entire world's problems: Just sit around calmly navel-gazing until some friendly Muslim comes along to slit your throat for you. Or not.

Posted by: Zenster at March 11, 2007 6:55 PM

"we are living in a world which has already been given a fate by God"

That's a little too fatalistic for my blood. Sounds like someone needs to read the Bible instead of the Hadith, and maybe you should lay off of those funny cigarettes too.

The Bible has an end-time scenario that contradicts the Hadith. Expand your mind through scripture, not through the writings of Muhammad.

Posted by: champ at March 11, 2007 7:38 PM

Right now, our best weapon is our freedom to still have such articles published. There was another one today, about how "hardline" clerics are urging Muslims to cheat on paying taxes, defraud the welfare system and encourage the cash economy.

There's so much of it, authorities are powerless to stop it.

Maybe they're not so powerless and would rather let the hate continue to spew forth and enlighten people. I'm encouraged by the talkback callers on the radio, the letters to the editor both in print and online, and comments from general conversations with friends and acquaintances. More people are becoming aware of the true nature of Islam and Muslims. I fear that if Labor wins the federal election, this freedom will be curtailed because Labor is notorious for whoring itself for the Muslim vote.

So don't agitate for these hate-mongers to stop or for them to be deported. Let them keep educating the public.

Posted by: feralee at March 12, 2007 10:24 PM