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Extreme what? Extreme skateboarders? Extreme Thomists? Anyway, nothing to be concerned about here at all, says the FBI. They just want us to be on the lookout for those extremist whatevers about whom we need not be concerned.
"FBI: Extremists Signing Up to Be School Bus Drivers," from AP, with thanks to all who sent this in:
WASHINGTON — Members of extremist groups have signed up as school bus drivers in the United States, counterterror officials said Friday, in a cautionary bulletin to police. An FBI spokesman said "parents and children have nothing to fear."Asked about the alert notice, the FBI's Rich Kolko said "there are no threats, no plots and no history leading us to believe there is any reason for concern," although law enforcement agencies around the country were asked to watch out for kids' safety.
The bulletin, parts of which were read to The Associated Press, did not say how often foreign extremists have sought to acquire licenses to drive school buses, or where. It was sent Friday as part of what officials said was a routine FBI and Homeland Security Department advisory to local law enforcement.
It noted "recent suspicious activity" by foreigners who either drive school buses or are licensed to drive them, according to a counterterror official who read parts of the document to The Associated Press.
Foreigners under recent investigation include "some with ties to extremist groups" who have been able to "purchase buses and acquire licenses," the bulletin says.
But Homeland Security and the FBI "have no information indicating these individuals are involved in a terrorist plot against the homeland," it says. The memo also notes: "Most attempts by foreign nationals in the United States to acquire school bus licenses to drive them are legitimate."
Posted by Robert at March 16, 2007 4:15 PM
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Another reason to consider home schooling.
at March 16, 2007 4:24 PM
Huh?..."no history leading us to believe that there is any reason for concern"....is he kidding!
9/11 taught us that terrorists will use planes full of innocent passengers as bombs, why not buses full of innocent children.
This FBI agent doesn't know what he's talking about, or he doesn't want to create a panic.
Posted by: champ
at March 16, 2007 4:26 PM
Is this an American Beslan in the making? I won't be surprised if something like that happens.
Posted by: wrathofasma
at March 16, 2007 4:30 PM
BESLAN!!!!!
BESLAN!!!!!
BESLAN!!!!!
caugh....
BESLAN!!!!!
But wait this can't be because the FBI says...
"parents and children have nothing to fear."
It appears they have it undercontrol!
We can put that on the memorial of the "American Beslan" when it does happen.
Posted by: greatcometof1577
at March 16, 2007 4:31 PM
Interesting.
FBI says nothing to fear. But they DO label the folks as extremists. Not retired history teachers or plumbers - but extremists. Extremists of a group where even the normal are prone to committing acts of terror.
Go to sleep folks - nothing to see here.
Posted by: infidel!
at March 16, 2007 4:31 PM
Should a Beslan style attack occur in the US as a result of this total inept political correctness gone amuck, I trust my fellow citizens will remember that the "FBI spokesman said "parents and children have nothing to fear" and hold him and his superiors accountable. Somehow, I won't hold my breath....
Posted by: jhl952
at March 16, 2007 4:32 PM
"parents and children have nothing to fear"
will go down in history with the famous quote:
"We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable." White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin
All I have to say is the FBI better be right on this one or there will be hell to pay!
at March 16, 2007 4:38 PM
The Beslan school siege shook me to my foundations because I couldn't understand how anyone could be so inhuman and EVIL. Now I understand. The more shocking and horrible the killings the better for them. This sounds like exactly something they would be planning.
Posted by: kelisw
at March 16, 2007 4:39 PM
wrathofasma
"Is this an American Beslan in the making?"
Yes!
Posted by: greatcometof1577
at March 16, 2007 4:41 PM
Members of extremist groups NEED NOT APPLY for any jobs, anywhere. These 'members' should all be stuffed into a cave filled with venomous snakes, and then pray that allah would protect them. Be sure to seal up the cave.
Posted by: champ
at March 16, 2007 4:49 PM
The memo says:
The memo also notes: "Most attempts by foreign nationals in the United States to acquire school bus licenses to drive them are legitimate."
Legitimate means what? The extremists have valid chauffeur's licenses?
Also what does 'most are legitimate' mean? Some extremists are illegal aliens or don't have green cards to work in the United States? MOST doesn't mean 'all' or 'every'. That is cause for concern as well.
Do some extremists attempt to buy buses or get chauffeur's licences ILLegitimately ( fraud ?)
WTF??????
I hope the memo text posted isn't the complete text of the FBI release and I hope the memo is more direct and understandable than the CYA-obfuscated BS that has been shown to us here.
FBI: who are you trying to protect? The people and their children in the United States or your bosses, appointed bureaucrats and f*ing politicians? I know what I think after reading this claptrap bullshi'ite...
Politicians and enforcement agencies aren't going to protect you people. They will simply file reports and shovel you remains into plastic bags after the extremists do the next big thing.
We deserve every attack they make on us at this point. Reading memos like this make me livid!
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at March 16, 2007 4:52 PM
The good news is all people who are hired in school districts must be fingerprinted and have a federal background check run on them.
This is how these "extremists" are being found.
The bad news is what in the hell are extremists being left in this country and are not being deported?
Rhetorical question, because it is the communists at the State Department and the bribe boys at key government offices who do not want to offend either Pakistan allies or Saudi oil support. It cuts both party lines in Carter being the chief of ilk and certain Republicans who affirmative action 3rd worlders into executive positions to prove they too are multicultural.
There is not going to be any corking this if a Beslan occurs in America. The Americans will burn down Fallujah Detroit and politicians to save their own hides will be the first once again screaming for "George Bush do something do anything".
The Bush family just can no get it through it's head that the Saudi royals who are secular Islam are not the same as the nuts in the sand spits.
If these dopes allow our children to be slaughtered, this will lead to the Global Strike of Iran or the invasion and thermobaric to atomic neutralization of the Pakistani hinterlands.
Posted by: Lame Cherry
at March 16, 2007 5:02 PM
Perhaps the FBI is relieved
They would rather have Extremists driving School buses than crashing planes into buildings.
I am visualising some kind of mammoth carnage that will make Columbine seem a minor event.
And for a spectacular make it a quad whammy.
What does it take to wake the West up?
Posted by: UK Infidel Lover
at March 16, 2007 5:04 PM
UK Infidel Lover.... what does it take to wake the west up? A couple of mushroom clouds, and 20 or 30 school buses full of children stroan about the highway, maybe.
Posted by: AMartinez
at March 16, 2007 5:11 PM
ANTI-JIHAD ACTION ALERT!
1) Print out multiple copies of the F.B.I. alert.
2) Go to the authorities at your local school, show them the F.B.I. warning and ask for the names of all the school bus drivers.
3) Demand that all drivers with Arab-sounding names be fired. Note their response.
4) Attend P.T.O. (Parent-Teachers Org.) meetings and share the F.B.I. warning with all parents present. Share the results of your meeting with school authorities. Encourage parents to check to be sure their child is not being transported by a Muslim bus driver.
at March 16, 2007 5:15 PM
"no history leading us to believe there is any reason for concern"
oh, really?
1. go to www.dogpile.com
2. type in fbi school bus extremist
et voila !
Hamas attempted a suicide attack on an Israeli school bus in 1998, and this was referred to by John Pistole, Assistant Director,Counterterrorism Division, FBI, before a House Committee in September 2003.
the FBI has run exercises based on school bus attacks.
Homeland Security is now funding training for school bus drivers to watch for potential terrorists observing bus routes with evil intent.
it took this private individual about 5 minutes to glean that info.
honesty would be the best policy in this case !
at March 16, 2007 5:25 PM
Was the Beslan Massacre to have Taken Place in Maryland?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003163.php
at March 16, 2007 5:26 PM
There have been several odd occurences involving Muslims and school buses. Wasn't there one recently with adult Muslims trying to finagle their way on to school buses? I seem to have read it here.
A Beslan nightmare in the U.S. - that would be SO educational. They've been trying to introduce Islam into the curriculum, that would be, how you say, 'crash course'?. If they ever murdered a bunch of American kids it would be the END of Islam in America.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at March 16, 2007 5:27 PM
That was in Florida, poetcomic1
Posted by: AMartinez
at March 16, 2007 5:34 PM
Must be Extremist Quakers in question here. How could anyone from the vaunted Religion of Peace (save for a very 'tiny minority' of radicals) be fairly described as "Extreme"?
at March 16, 2007 6:50 PM
It's not great leap of ability to go from Taxi Driving to Bus Driving.
Nevermind that our very future, our children, are at stake.
So it will just be 'business as usual' until we get our own version of Beslan at home.
But the F.B.I. is all over this, nothing to worry about...
Posted by: alexon
at March 16, 2007 6:53 PM
Re: FBI: "Extremists" Signing Up to Be School Bus Drivers
Be on the lookout for Ibby Hooper, the challenged one. (Has your number-doesn't he, Ibby?)
at March 16, 2007 7:07 PM
Back in 2001, there were reports of a group of Muslim men who were discovered inside several elementary schools in Brookline, and each time, when confronted by a teacher or the principal, explained that they were merely "looking the schools over" in order to see if they were suitable for their children, and they would then disappear. Finally, one principal apparently had the wit to call the police. I don't know what happened. Does anyone?
And one more thing. The Ice Cream Truck and Muslim owner/drivers. A strange thing. Google "ice cream truck" and "Jihad Watch" for more. Anyone aware of this, or find it of interest?
Posted by: Hugh
at March 16, 2007 7:16 PM
Perhaps this would be for the best. It would get this ‘party’ started. But without a war we have little hope of ridding the Nation of this plague. And if it is to come I only hope they do it soon. I know, I know, they are just kids, so please don’t send any more ‘hate Steve’ mail, my mail box is full now.
OT: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/16/nislam16.xml
Posted by: QuadoLama
at March 16, 2007 7:19 PM
OH, sorry, and this one as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/16/nislam116.xml
Posted by: QuadoLama
at March 16, 2007 7:26 PM
I guess they may plan to seize school buses in various parts of the country and demand the release of the swine at Gitmo.
Posted by: Bingo
at March 16, 2007 7:27 PM
Maybe this is the beginning of Usama's dream to kill 2 million children....just a thought. I'm glad to see that the F.B.I has followed Mueller's rules of not using the words "Islamic Terrorism". Pathetic!
Posted by: Patriot_1/17
at March 16, 2007 8:06 PM
Quadolama.... If it did offend the muslims there would only be two ways to appease them.
1) Do not do the three little pigs at all.
2) Change the three little pigs to three little jews,rename the big bad wolf a 'martyr or hero,or lion'.The ending must have the three little pigs or the jews Dead and the 'martyr,or hero,or lion' ascending to paradise with allah.
But of course this being a multicultural aware society these days one would think there would be no need to worry at all.
As for your other link the leeds story on the cancelled anti semite seminar.I believe they really were worried about security.What they fail to point out is who they feared would commit criminal acts durring the sminar.
Not that it needs pointed out in the first place but they could at least lay blame where it belongs.The many are suffering for the few and over criminal acts no less.
It's getting really pathetic to watch the intelectual type people give way to what they should be protecting most.
The universities and media are killing themselves by coddling the muslim bull crap and they kill us in the process.
What needs to be played is a fairness game.When the muslims protest over our wishes we protest over thiers.They have no more right to offend than anyone else and i for one am tired of being sold down the river.
All peoples need to get together and the next time some muslim brain rot zombie insults our religions or our desires for education and the like ,we sue and protest and sue and protest.
Islam needs to be put on trial...EVERYWHERE.
Let them spell it out PUBLICLY and OPENLY what they desire from the infedels in thier own lands.
Enough is enough.I posted on the first link you gave but on a different site.My comment was a eulogy more than it was a comment.
FAREWELL my dear british allies and friends it's been nice knowing you,whats left of the freeworld will try to remember you as you were after your new masters erase your existance.
Ta Ta
Posted by: Dar al-harb
at March 16, 2007 8:13 PM
I would be very worried, seeing how these muslims have no respect for women and children. Remember they hide behind children, and they treat women like crap. They also have a major hate-on against infidels. Can someone answer a question for me….is there such a thing as murder in islamic society? Is it ok for them to murder infidels, but not other muslims? do they believe that the Koran condones murder?
Posted by: xena the dog
at March 16, 2007 8:36 PM
Well, being a CDL driver myself, with all the testing and retesting to do, that's one national database I wouldn't want to screw with. Having a Passenger Endorsement is something you are constantly tested on, and no, you can't buy it, you can only earn it.
-Jeff posting
How easy would it be, in the spirit of multi culturalism, for a Warrior of Allah to be promoted to the Board that oversees these Passenger Endorsements? We saw it here in Boston, that a Muslim was working for the Ummah (gathering money for the Grand Mosque) while employed in the Boston Redevelopment Agency. The land value went from $2 million, to $420 thousand to a $175 thousand to the Islamic society of Boston in a fire sale along with some secret charity work given to nearby Roxbury College by the Islamists. Data bases can be manipulated by those whose intentions are to manipulate them.
Posted by: Briars
at March 16, 2007 9:01 PM
Apparently, we have nothing to fear but...
FBI indifference.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at March 16, 2007 9:11 PM
Yet another reason to home school.
Posted by: MadMom
at March 16, 2007 9:48 PM
Could they be any more transparent in their blatant refusal to identify the transgressors as Muslims?
Posted by: Ibn_Iblis
at March 16, 2007 10:01 PM
If they ever murdered a bunch of American kids it would be the END of Islam in America.
Posted by: poetcomic1
Unfortunately I have to disagree and say that you are being a tad "optimistic" - if one can say that in the face of the catastrophe we are debating here. Everything will be business as usual.. politicians blabbing about the Religion of Peace and calling for calm in the streets and "we are all in this together" and even more handholding and candle light vigils.
Oh and of course we'll all be singing Kumbayah!
Since I am feeling sarcastic.. maybe things aren't as bad as they look. They probably mean normal American citizens when they are talking about "extremists".
That's the way they do it in Germany anyway.
There's all these reports about the "rise of right-wing extremist" violence.
ROFLMAO or whatever you say when you are dying from laughing!
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at March 16, 2007 10:02 PM
And as the neighbor is muz it is driving him frickin crazy, so he calls the cops on a regular basis. But we live in a small town in Missouri and they have no laws governing doggie doo
WHAT the heck is a MoFoe doing in a small town in Missouri?! What does he do for a living? Inquiring minds ya know..
Please do tell. And keep up the good work with the Shepherd and all that.. but please do look into how this guy is paying to live next to you in a small town in Missouri.
They are doing the same in Europe.. invading the small towns and the countryside.. building mosks.. "community centers".
BURN BABY BURN!
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at March 16, 2007 10:11 PM
Seriously.. the ones in the small communities and the small remote towns are the ones who REALLY bear watching. Where is the nearest mosk? where does this guy worship his devil? How many wives does he have? How many visitors does he get?
Take pictures too!
I got into a fight with some MoFoes taking pics of their mosk on W.29th St in NYC right after they bombed the London Tube no less!!
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at March 16, 2007 10:14 PM
I thought we were fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here...
Posted by: Ibn_Iblis
at March 16, 2007 10:21 PM
"I thought we were fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here..."
Yeah its a nice myth to keep the panic down to the minimum before the Jihad is released within our borders, or until they are done with their term & it can happen on someone else's watch. Maybe we can re-relect Slick Willy, after all he said he wished 9/11 happened on his watch.
Posted by: SoteriA
at March 16, 2007 10:44 PM
The FBI may choose to forget these recent incidents, but we won't . . .so here is a brief reminder:
Previous events involving school buses should have the FBI reconsider any attemts at selling us false optimism . . .
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In yesterday's crash of the private school bus, the driver, Abdelrazeg Abdalla, 31, of Falls Church,was charged with several counts, including operating the Islamic Saudi Academy bus on a suspended license.
Investigators said Abdalla's driving privileges had been suspended at 12:01 a.m. yesterday because of insurance-related issues. He was fired by school administrators shortly after the charges -- including citations for reckless driving and driving a vehicle with faulty equipment -- were issued.
"They determined that the bus had little or no brakes at all and that the tires were in fact bald," said Alexandria Police Capt. John Crawford, adding that investigators found skid marks to suggest that Abdalla tried to apply the brakes.
The chain-reaction crash, in which two other drivers sustained minor injuries, occurred as the school bus ferrying students to the Islamic Saudi Academy failed to stop as it traveled south down a hill on North Quaker Lane near Duke Street. The bus struck a Honda Civic, causing a chain-reaction crash involving the bus and three cars.
Police said Abdalla told them he was unable to stop the vehicle as traffic slowed. State police towed the bus to a maintenance lot for examination.
Virginia State Police determined that the bus was unsafe to drive and said it would remain out of service until the problems were repaired.
David Kovilik, director of education for the Fairfax County academy, said the bus was not part of the fleet's normal daily rotation, calling it "a spare."
He said that the bus passed its Virginia state inspection in July and that it was subject to daily mechanical checks as well as monthly preventive maintenance.
"I looked at the bus [after the crash], and the tire tread was thin, and on one axle the brake was worn down to the metal," Kovilik said. "The other three tires had functioning brakes."
Kovilik said Abdalla was hired as a driver in August after a comprehensive background check that he said included a search for any past convictions and "points on his license."
But a check of court records in Virginia revealed seven past charges, including several traffic violations for speeding and crossing a double yellow line. Several of the charges had been dismissed.
Abdalla also had a misdemeanor conviction in Fairfax for abducting his estranged wife and 3-month-old daughter at knifepoint. He had originally been charged with felony kidnapping, but friends and family -- including his wife -- wrote letters of support to the court on Abdalla's behalf, and he agreed to plead guilty in May 2003, after nearly three months in jail, to a reduced charge of misdemeanor assault and battery.
After his release, Abdalla was picked up by Department of Homeland Security officials and detained for about six months, according to court records. It could not be determined why he was detained.
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Jihad Watch: Two Saudi men board school bus in Tampa, are arrested ...
"Saudi Men Who Rode School Bus Arrested," from the Tampa Tribune, ... Hillsborough County sheriff's deputies met the bus at the school and detained the men. ...
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Terror Suspect Received Haz-Mat License
From Associated Press Wednesday, June 30, 2004Terror Suspect Received Haz-Mat License
MINNEAPOLIS — A man who authorities believe may have been part of an Al Qaeda (search) "sleeper cell" obtained a license to haul hazardous materials months after he was identified as a suspected terrorist by the FBI (search), officials said.
The FBI identified Mohamad Kamal Elzahabi (google this name for more) as a suspected terrorist before the attacks of 2001, the Star Tribune reported in Wednesday's editions, citing unidentified law enforcement officials.
Yet Minnesota Department of Public Safety officials said they did not know that Elzahabi was suspected of having Al Qaeda connections when he applied in early 2002 for a commercial license to drive a school bus and haul hazardous materials.
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An American Beslan?
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S. D. school crisis plan is found on disk in Iraq
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Jihad Watch: Teacher's 'bus bomb warning' probed
Police are investigating allegations that a physics teacher warned wayward pupils that he knew how to make a parcel bomb and put it on their school bus. ...
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The beltway snipers:
According to Malvo, Muhammad had a two-phase plan -- six shootings a day for a month, followed by a wave of bombings of schools, school buses and children's hospitals. Malvo said that when he asked Muhammad why, the older man replied: ''For the sheer terror of it -- the worst thing you can do to people is aim at their children.''Posted by: justamomof4
at March 16, 2007 10:47 PM
Standard government B.S. The Federal government tells local governments to ‘be advised’ to shift some of the blame if busloads of innocent children get killed.
Somebody knows exactly what’s going on and is either keeping quiet for career reasons or is being muzzled by the State Department.
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
-From Section 9 of the Constitution
Cases of Rebellion or Invasion…
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
A real government would use the tools at hand to protect its people. It could use Section 9 above, an Amendment stripping Islam of Constitutional protections, or RICO. But we have to settle for a nation of worried parents and, heaven forbid, children that will step on to the wrong bus someday because it is less unsettling for the civil servants. Washington is broken.
at March 16, 2007 11:11 PM
There was a Beslan and after that,the muslims in Russia got more concessions from the government,they became more determined in their barbarism while the russians became more intimidated.
If a Beslan happened in America,God forbid,the government`s first reaction will be to deploy national guard troups to protect muslim neighbourhoods and to imprison any american who would as much as say anything negative against islam...
We need someone like Michael Savage,or this country is finished.
at March 16, 2007 11:31 PM
This is a Beslan in the making. It's not if it will happen but when? Here is a 9 minute Beslan tribute:
I have Overcome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0b5YYg9-0
Never forget Beslan!
at March 16, 2007 11:34 PM
RE:
There was a Beslan and after that,the muslims in Russia got more concessions from the government,they became more determined in their barbarism while the russians became more intimidated.
If a Beslan happened in America,God forbid,the government`s first reaction will be to deploy national guard troups to protect muslim neighbourhoods and to imprison any american who would as much as say anything negative against islam...
ADELA IS RIGHT ON THIS. THE NATIONAL GUALR WOULD BE PROTECTING MUSLIM INTERESTS; NOT OUR SAFETY
Posted by: The Resistance
at March 16, 2007 11:41 PM
The thought of another Beslan is horrifying. I certainly hope it doesn't take that before our Federal Bureau of Insanity wakes up to reality.
at March 16, 2007 11:50 PM
OK, I cant read this anymore, it’s too much to think about. I’m going next door and having my dog bite my neighbor, my muzlim neighbor.
Posted by: QuadoLama
at March 17, 2007 12:01 AM
Once kids become the INTENTIONAL targets, the majority of the public will go on the warpath,regardless of who will defend those mosques, neighborhoods or families. Ironically, it shall be many of those very law enforcement officials who will break ranks and choose to protect their friends and neighbors as opposed to following the "spirit" of their orders. Many apologists(apologists being defined as showing sympathy for the tenets and goals of this faith,not,as one troll so aptly put it once: "apologizing for the actions of some fool") will find life quite uncomfortable,if they aren't run out of town on a rail. No amount of "can't we all get along?" hang- wringing will pass the mustard once children are involved. Such a scenario will usher in the next U.S. civil war,which will define the course of Western (worldwide for that matter) civilization for the next century. Sadly, the same techniques employed by these scum will be adopted by many, and while the public is counseled to show restraint, there shall be civil unrest by those who move like shadows in the night,evading the hawkeyed glare of law enforcement,who,more often than not, will turn a blind eye.
Posted by: We need G.C. Scott
at March 17, 2007 12:06 AM
Once kids become the INTENTIONAL targets, the majority of the public will go on the warpath,regardless of who will defend those mosques, neighborhoods or families. Ironically, it shall be many of those very law enforcement officials who will break ranks and choose to protect their friends and neighbors as opposed to following the "spirit" of their orders. Many apologists(apologists being defined as showing sympathy for the tenets and goals of this faith,not,as one troll so aptly put it once: "apologizing for the actions of some fool") will find life quite uncomfortable,if they aren't run out of town on a rail. No amount of "can't we all get along?" hang- wringing will pass the mustard once children are involved. Such a scenario will usher in the next U.S. civil war,which will define the course of Western (worldwide for that matter) civilization for the next century. Sadly, the same techniques employed by these scum will be adopted by many, and while the public is counseled to show restraint, there shall be civil unrest by those who move like shadows in the night,evading the hawkeyed glare of law enforcement,who,more often than not, will turn a blind eye.
Posted by: We need G.C. Scott
at March 17, 2007 12:07 AM
This is insane! If there is nothing to worry about, why even mention it?! How could the FBI take any chances with the lives of our children? They know what these savages are capable of!!!!
Surely innocent babes will not be their next sacrifice on the altar of political correctness, or are we all potential sacrifices now? Are the "sensitivities" of the traitors and spies at CAIR and the muslim umma in America more important than bonafide, loyal, INNOCENT American citizens?
It makes absolutely no sense to issue a statement like this to the public unless it is their way of warning people that they cannot remove suspicious drivers until they commit a crime, and they have reason to believe these people are connected to terrorists but don't have enough on them to arrest them. How can parents feel confident that their children are safe? And just think, if we had no muslims, this problem wouldn't exist. Thanks Ted Kennedy for starting the plague and thanks to the rest of the multicultural social engineers for ruining our country and putting the lives of our school children in jeopardy.
Posted by: Susanp
at March 17, 2007 12:39 AM
Well, one thing is for sure -- the jihadirats have shown that they are not above slaughtering children.
BTW, I donated to the survivors of Beslan (I know others here did too) through the Russian embassy in Washington. I hope it got through but one wonders.
Posted by: Lizard
at March 17, 2007 12:41 AM
I think you pretty well nailed it SusanP. It doesn't make any sense. We now need another Federal Bureau to investigate the one we have now.
at March 17, 2007 12:46 AM
No need for concern. Sleep tight, the effah-bee-eye is on the job. The "counterterror officials" have warned them. And they in turn have warned local police.
"Members of extremist groups have signed up as school bus drivers in the United States, counterterror officials said Friday, in a cautionary bulletin to police. An FBI spokesman said "parents and children have nothing to fear."
Of course, there is "nothing to fear." Larry, Moe, and Curly (the 3 Stooges) are in the FBI, and have been assigned to the job. We can all sleep tonight, knowing that in the morning, our children will be safe aboard the yellow school bus. Whew! What a relief!
Posted by: unicorns62000
at March 17, 2007 12:59 AM
Hey Lizard, I almost did that to! I was warned though to give through the US-based Beslan relief fund located here:
http://www.moscowhelp.org/en/index.html
They keep public records for everyone who donates. Lets all hope we will not need this here in the USA. I think most people would explode into civil riots if it did.
at March 17, 2007 1:02 AM
Good night everyone. Have a hopefully peaceful weekend.
at March 17, 2007 1:06 AM
If they ever murdered a bunch of American kids it would be the END of Islam in America.
Posted by: poetcomic1
Unfortunately I have to disagree and say that you are being a tad "optimistic" - if one can say that in the face of the catastrophe we are debating here. Everything will be business as usual.. politicians blabbing about the Religion of Peace and calling for calm in the streets and "we are all in this together" and even more handholding and candle light vigils.
____________________________________
I would hope that A) This NEVER happens to ANY school children at all!!!!!!!!!!
B) If, God forbid, it did...that the US would take response and get over PC attitudes. "Wake Up"
C) I was PHYSICALLY sick when I heard about the Beslan Massacre.
D) I will be even sicker if it happens here.
E) Home-schooling is not a bad idea for a number of reasons.
at March 17, 2007 1:12 AM
Susanp wrote:
"Thanks Ted Kennedy for starting the plague and thanks to the rest of the multicultural social engineers for ruining our country and putting the lives of our school children in jeopardy."
Indeed, I agree. Well put SusanP.
Posted by: awake
at March 17, 2007 1:19 AM
I am not having any luck finding the ayat about the children of Ta'if. You know...when the "prophet" says the children are "of them", meaning they could be murdered. Anyone got it?
Posted by: Carolyn2
at March 17, 2007 1:37 AM
Monkeywho,
" . . . handholding and candle light vigils."
yes, that plus mosque visits were G. w. Bush's answers to 9-11.
What a difference 60+ years made in the American spirit.
After Pearl Harbor, there was anger, not calls to "feel the pain" of the Japanese, who were after all concerned about American power in the Pacific and therefore justified in their preemptive strike at Pearl.
The people wanted pay-back. The government wasn't concerned about the welfare of the Japanese in the country. The drive was to destroy Japan and the Japanese.
The stupid peaceful mourning after 9-11 served nothing but to bury any anger in tears and endless mourning. Where was the justified outrage--the anger that drove people to enlist in 1941 just so they could smash the Japanese?
All Bush wanted to do was rush and protect the domestic mus, so would be safe and he could show the Saudis how much he cared for what he inisisted on calling "a great religion" and the "religion of peace."
Rightful anger stifled will turn to depression and defeatism. This apparently is what those who govern us wanted and still want. The empty, "Of course we support our troops, but no more war,' is the wailing of the defeated.
Our government is more concerned for our enemies than it is for us--Americans, citizens, non-Moslems.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at March 17, 2007 2:02 AM
OH AMERICA,
Can you not see that mere men can't protect you? These are 'the end days',so get ready.
The actual land (physical land),is under judgement and money can't prevent that from happening.Best if we humble ourselves and pray.
at March 17, 2007 2:15 AM
Carolyn2
I am not having any luck finding the ayat about the children of Ta'if. You know...when the "prophet" says the children are "of them", meaning they could be murdered. Anyone got it?
That's from the hadith.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.256
eagerbeaver:
Best if we humble ourselves and pray.
You go right ahead. In fact, stick your ass in the air while you're at it. Allah likes that.
Posted by: Burgundy Infidel
at March 17, 2007 2:28 AM
Members of extremist groups have signed up as school bus drivers in the United States, counterterror officials said Friday, in a cautionary bulletin to police. An FBI spokesman said "parents and children have nothing to fear." (*
This is absolutely crazy! This could lead to a planned blackmail to pull this or that out of some crapStan !
The trouble with 'Beslan style massacre' would be that the politicians will blame each other and none of them will take on the responsibility. Of course the dick-head Mussies will get all the necessary protection from our F..B.I.
Oh yeh, of course it will have nothing to do with Islam, the ROFP. Naturally, you can’t blame the peaceful Mussies in America because they aint done anything (yet).
You know wat, I am beginning to wonder they’ve already won first step of Jihad by using our own democratic tools.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy
at March 17, 2007 2:30 AM
Well, if I had any doubts about homeschooling, I don't now.
This is utterly stupid. I think I've heard it all and then bam..another worse stupid thing happens.
Posted by: Highrise
at March 17, 2007 4:26 AM
"I think most people would explode into civil riots if it did."
Some may do that, but there are a lot of people in organized groups that would see this as a call to arms and lead assaults against the raggies.
And, eagerbeaver, I pray daily: I pray for the lord to give strength to our fighting men and women in harm's way, now, for the souls of those lost at the bloody hand of raggies since the fifties, and for our government officials to wake up from the "religion-of-peace" trance they've been in and at least ACT LIKE leaders. One doesn't, however, have to give up his backbone to speak to the Lord in prayer.
I seem to remember an old saying that went, "Trust in God, but keep your powder dry." I always took this to mean be prepared for anything at any time. As a CCL holder, I keep several guns around, always loaded and, though I don't have the vision I did when I was twenty, Some fool that harms a bus full of school kids around me had better hope that he perishes in the wreck.
I also keep a "grab-and-go" bag at hand whenever I'm at home and a 3 week survival container in my truck.
We have just had a muzzy family move into this small town of 12,000, I will be keeping a close eye on them and any suspicious behavior will prompt a tip to the proper authorities, who will get a detailed report on just what they were up to. I have a feeling that this could cause me to be arrested for "stalking" but, if so, I have a very good shyster on retainer who is of a mind with me on this.
Posted by: Rowane
at March 17, 2007 7:04 AM
Sometimes I think that the FBI are extremists - extreme ignorami.
Posted by: jewdog
at March 17, 2007 8:44 AM
burgundy infidel,
" Out of the heart, the mouth speaks ".
Why do you call yourself-infidel?
A praying soldier / praying for a soldier
PRAYER WORKS!!
at March 17, 2007 9:35 AM
wonder if they allow those muslim bus drivers prayer rugs? can the kids bring a piggy bank on the bus? lots of questions come to mind.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at March 17, 2007 10:08 AM
On Ali Sina's website on the Beslan photo galleries,he says "If you are still a Muslim, shame on you! Leave this cult of hate! curse Muhammad, this messenger of Satan and reclaim your humanity today. God does not prize you for being stupid."
Posted by: The Resistance
at March 17, 2007 10:30 AM
Is this an American Beslan in the making? I won't be surprised if something like that happens.
Posted by: wrathofasma
++++++++++++++
extermists = muslims...........
how many American children will be murdered by the muslims/extermists before Americans take back our country from the PCness that is slowly killing America.
what will you do if one of your children or grandchildren are murdered by muslims/extermists?????
The Texican.
Live free and die free.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.
at March 17, 2007 10:52 AM
"But Homeland Security and the FBI "have no information indicating these individuals are involved in a terrorist plot against the homeland," it says."
No information indicating... - they neither had that information indicating... before September 11, before the Kenya bombings. Actually they virtually never had this information indicating... prior to any bombing.
Nor did their European counterparts in Madrid and London.
But I guess they already have information indicating.. - that whatever happens - it's nothing to do with islam.
Posted by: flibustier
at March 17, 2007 11:10 AM
justamomof4 mentioned “The beltway snipers:”
Interesting that you should bring that up. John Allen Muhammad was directly tied to Jamaat ul Fuqra (founded in New York by Sheikh Gilani in 1980.) Gilani is perhaps the REAL reason Daniel Pearl was beheaded, not so much KSM. Within the Islamberg compound of Jamaat ul Fuqra, there was spotted a school bus riddled with bullet holes.
Target practice, perhaps.
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t12676.html
more on Jamaat ul Fuqra here:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005/10/jamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-1.html
A few other related articles:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/node/613
*Terror suspect used his position of trust as a bus driver to recruit young men to embrace an extremist ideology and to attend terrorist training in Canada and elsewhere.
http://homelandsecurityus.com/Schoolpreplist
School safety advisory & checklist
-XRDC
at March 17, 2007 11:48 AM
Beslan... Never forget...
Posted by: The Resistance
at March 17, 2007 11:56 AM
you know that if one muslim bus drive does the shooting, killing of children on a bush, the media, and cair will only say the guy is nuts, his family will say, he was under a lot of pressure. his neighours will say, he seemed like a nice quiet man.
all these talking points will be paraded in front of the camera, and the word "muslim" will never be said on tape, paper, etc.
at March 17, 2007 12:23 PM
"Asked about the alert notice, the FBI's Rich Kolko said "there are no threats, no plots and no history leading us to believe there is any reason for concern," although law enforcement agencies around the country were asked to watch out for kids' safety."
As long as the FBI is content to continue its association with CAIR, we don't really know, and will not really know.....what's what.
Posted by: DCWatson
at March 17, 2007 3:27 PM
The most worrying aspect of this is that in recent terror raids in Iraq (conducted by our military) detailed floor plans of US elementary schools WERE found in them.
A US equivalent of Beslan COULD very well be in the offing by the mosques.
Hopefully, the US Department of Homeland Security has been advised of these disturbing developments and is making preparations to defend US elementary schools from Islamic terror.
Posted by: pythagoras
at March 17, 2007 5:00 PM
If we have a Belsan in the United States it will result in a long overdue open season.
Posted by: Truth
at March 17, 2007 7:57 PM
So if there is no problem, then why are certain school districts be given more specific information?
If there is a Beslan -- (let us pray that there is not!) -- I will be drawn to the conclusion that the US government allowed it to happen so as to rally public sentiment that will enable the sheep to be more easily herded.
There is NO reason why we should have to worry about this issue -- but we do thanks to CAIR and their Washington stooges.
There is NO reason why we should not have won the war in Iraq four years ago -- but we didn't because the Washington idiots don't believe in winning wars, only managing the enemy.
If Beslan occurs in America -- the islamics should not be the ONLY ones to pay dearly for the blood of innocents!
God save our children from ALL the monsters; including those that wear expensive suits and strut down the halls of Washington!
Posted by: witness
at March 17, 2007 8:44 PM
It should be mandatory that the driver's seats and stearing wheels in all school buses be be covered with pig skin.
I think this would be a reasonable precaution to protect our children.
Posted by: rational
at March 17, 2007 11:53 PM
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