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Investor's Business Daily (thanks to Doc Washburn) comments on this story:
Homeland Security: As Democrats hold more silly hearings to embarrass Republicans, the FBI is warning local police to be alert for Muslim extremists hijacking school buses. Reality check, please.We wonder if any of the grandstanding politicians on Capitol Hill are thinking in terms of one of these nuts driving a fertilizer-filled yellow bus up to a government building — or, easier yet, a school. Of course not. They're too busy swooning over Valerie Plame to even notice we're still under threat from the Islamic terrorists they say we shouldn't be spying on.
The FBI and Homeland Security Department last week sent out a bulletin to law enforcement across the country warning that Muslims with "ties to extremist groups" are signing up to be school bus drivers. They also noted "recent suspicious activity" by foreigners who drive school buses or are licensed to drive them.
Recent events come on top of several other school bus-related incidents involving Mideast men that raise suspicion of terror activity.
They include last year's surprise boarding of a school bus in Florida by two Saudi men dressed in trench coats. Authorities suspect they were making a dry run to see how easy it would be to hijack or blow up a school bus filled with American children.
Previously, an Arab man from Detroit was caught trying to obtain a job as a school bus driver in New York using fake Social Security documents.
Authorities fear the school massacre that took place in Beslan, Russia, in 2004 may be a dress rehearsal for what al-Qaida plans to do here. Chechen terrorists tied to al-Qaida seized a building in Beslan on the first day of school and slaughtered 338, including 172 kids.
Three years later, schools and local police in this country are still unprepared to deal with such an assault. Most don't have response plans for handling a single active shooter, let alone a cell of trained terrorists.
Read it all.
Posted by Robert at March 21, 2007 3:45 PM
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DETROIT: FirstGroup buys parent of Greyhound bus
LONDON: FirstGroup of Britain agreed Friday to buy Laidlaw International, owner of the largest U.S. school-bus company and the Greyhound bus service, for $3.6 billion to triple revenue in North America.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/09/business/ibrief.php
Can't happen here, ehh? Just who will be doing the hiring?
Go back to sleep, your kids are fine!
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at March 21, 2007 4:05 PM
An 'American Beslan' is what it will take for this 'war' to be fought like a war.
Posted by: myiironu at March 21, 2007 4:24 PM
Wouldn't put anything past these scum.
A Beslan here would put much blood in the streets.
(except in San Francisco and the Capital)
Posted by: dgene at March 21, 2007 4:27 PM
"An 'American Beslan' is what it will take for this 'war' to be fought like a war."
Unfortunately, you are right. Hopefully it WON'T be a bunch of kids, though!
Posted by: MBaker at March 21, 2007 4:41 PM
But you guys, Islam is peace! Come on!
...
Oh crap, my solar-powered car is being towed! I got to run!
/Liberal Wing Nut
Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth at March 21, 2007 5:21 PM
a good, well-written piece. the more coverage this story gets, the greater the chance that some alert citizen will spot a clue that will enable a plot to be forestalled.
i agree that it is a lot to hope for, but it is a start.
at March 21, 2007 5:26 PM
It seems that the same jihadis who wanted to learn to drive tractor trailer trucks (forwards only, not bothering with reverse gear!) are now seeking jobs as bus drivers.
Many school systems and bus companies already run background checks for school bus drivers to prevent pedophiles and other convicted criminals from getting near the kids.
ALL these public sector jobs (including those outsourced to private firms) must require such screening. Many private sector firms already required criminal record checks and ID verification; there is no reason for local, state, and federal government to not do the same for all jobs.
Posted by: Dave at March 21, 2007 5:26 PM
I would add that some of the other articles I saw on this stated that the FBI said that there was no cause for concern. That's reassuring.
I have to agree an 'American Beslan' would be fundamentally change the U.S.'s approach to this war - and if we had to make a solitude and call it peace, that is what would happen.
at March 21, 2007 5:38 PM
myiironu wrote:
"An 'American Beslan' is what it will take for this 'war' to be fought like a war."
My sentiments exactly.
“Nothing to fear” from ‘extremist’ school bus drivers says the FBI
at March 21, 2007 5:46 PM
What is this article trying to say before it happens? Is it saying 'Hay look we have just given you guys an idea now bet you never thought about buses?' Well that's a shot in the foot a bit like exposing how to make bombs on TV so more people have a chance to copycat.
Or is it saying 'Ok no more muslims near sensative targetted areas,' so it's one rule for them and another for the non muslims?
You can never be prepared but it helps to reduce somethings as anything can happen. The problem is for them to decide since the West can not trust anything Islamic do they have to get hard on Muslims untill the fire is out or do they sit and watch and be PC about it? It's there choice.
Posted by: jesusisthelamb at March 21, 2007 5:50 PM
Mr. Spencer, the problem is not an American Beslan, but American Beslans.
When these terrorists strike it will be at multiple school districts at once.
Posted by: Lame Cherry at March 21, 2007 5:59 PM
See, I have to disagree with y'all...
The world has become so voraciously anti-American the last few years, and I honestly believe that were a Beslan-style tragedy to happen here in the US, the world outcry for us to 'remain calm and measured in our response' would be deafening. Of course, our hands would be tied from Day One and we would be condemned for daring to defend ourselves. I think CAIR and the like would be SO QUICK on the draw, ready with their conspiracy theories, ready with 'victims of backlash' from the tragedy... I just honestly don't see where we would be ALLOWED to go completely postal and vigorously defend ourselves by going after these creeps.
In fact, I don't even think that in the face of a nuclear attack by Iran on either Israel or any other Western country would we be allowed to respond in kind. I think the anti-American world would be so bent on 'Well, they deserved it!' and we would be roundly condemned were we to respond to a nuke attack with a nuke attack. They would whine that it was the Iranian leadership that dropped the nuke, and here the evil, war-mongering Americans want to drop a nuke on the Iranian PEOPLE? *GASP*
Sorry for the doom and gloom folks... I just don't see the Western Civilized World ever growing a pair big enough to deal harshly and realistically with the islamic problem in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: JenBee at March 21, 2007 6:10 PM
The more I think about this editorial and the facts it reveals that I have not seen elsewhere, the more concerned I am getting. I distinctly recall this series of statements from an Osama bin Laden interview:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/02/05/binladen.transcript/
BIN LADEN: That it is not permissible. They spoke of evidence that the Messenger of God forbade the killing of women and children. This is true.
[Break in tape.]
Q: This is exactly what I'm asking about.
BIN LADEN: However, this prohibition of the killing of children and innocents is not absolute. It is not absolute. There are other texts that restrict it.
I agree that the Prophet Mohammed forbade the killing of babies and women. That is true, but this is not absolute. There is a saying, "If the infidels killed women and children on purpose, we shouldn't shy way from treating them in the same way to stop them from doing it again." The men that God helped [attack, on September 11] did not intend to kill babies; they intended to destroy the strongest military power in the world, to attack the Pentagon that houses more than 64,000 employees, a military center that houses the strength and the military intelligence.
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Of course Islamists will create any excuses they like to commit their atrocities, so bin Laden leaves the door open to follow through on this threat issued by one of his spokesman:
"We have the right to kill four million Americans — 2 million of them children — and to exile twice as many and wound and cripple hundreds of thousands."
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/marshall200408270844.asp
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We are damn fools to not take this threat with absolute seriousness. Concerted attacks upon our very vulnerable school systems and activities would eclipse 9-11 in the blink of an eye, which is exactly the M.O. of Al Qaeda. Each attack has to be bigger than the last.
Want to see Hell unleashed? If this threat ever becomes reality, the American people will be through trying to be reasonable.
Posted by: Foehammer at March 21, 2007 6:11 PM
If a Beslan or multiple Beslans occur in the US, then all hell will break lose.
The correct response though would be for the American people to accept that Islam and democracy are incompatible, as has been shown in Iraq. The imams and even the Saudi ambassador to the UK agree that is so.
The best for all, would be a peaceful separation from Islam, or as Muslims would put it, "for you, your religion, culture and land, and for me, my religion, culture and land.
at March 21, 2007 6:39 PM
I'm tempted to write that we are so mired in PC that a Beslan or Beslans wouldn't make a bit a difference but when it comes to peoples children things get nasty.
They don't care if their children live or die, we do.
at March 21, 2007 6:56 PM
Lame Cherry wrote:
"When these terrorists strike it will be at multiple school districts at once."
Agreed. These current actions by Islamists in the US, the bus drivers, the haz-mat drivers, the flying imams, et al, are the early probings of law enforcement and the US judiciary, seeing how far one can push, then subsequently how far one can push after litigation, or the mere threat thereof.
Once the Islamists relatively figure out and then tweak the system to exploit weaknesses, the infiltration will begin. Another Muslim will get a bus job. Time will go by with nothing to mention in this area and then more Muslims will get bus jobs.
Ultimately, when, not if, the next big symbolic strike on the US occurs, it will be augmented with mass simultaneous bus "incidents", the specifics unclear, but irrelevant since deaths will most assuredly occur. The drivers will be turned on as one, like a light switch, wreaking havoc on a grand scale.
Islam is Islam. Anyone who has spent about ten minutes here knows that. We know what to expect, attack, attack, attack. What we don't know is the US response to the next big attack.
Choose your candidates wisely in 2008.
Posted by: awake at March 21, 2007 7:06 PM
@Jeff: Yes, GPS is one thing, but don't miss these points:
1) They 'extremists' are buying buses, not just getting licenses to drive them.
2) Floor plans of schools have been found in the hands of the bad guys.
Whatever this attack is planned to be, it's certainly only going to use the buses as a means to a worse end -- most likely bombs and/or campus and schoolroom invasions (i.e. Beslan).
Posted by: Foehammer at March 21, 2007 7:06 PM
Choose your candidates wisely in 2008.
Posted by: awake
How can we do this when all we have are the Republicans and the Dhimmicrats to choose from?
This is SO frustrating. Both parties just keep putting up another politician. Neither party knows who the enemy is. Both parties are so concerned with being politically correct that they can't get anything done, except gouge at the other party. I haven't seen a good candidate yet out of all the one's who have "thrown their hat into the ring" so far. There won't be a real choice to "choose wisely". We need an independent with smarts and some balls, but if that guy ever shows up, the media won't let him be elected.
at March 21, 2007 7:58 PM
FROM ABOVE
" I just honestly don't see where we would be ALLOWED to go completely postal and vigorously defend ourselves by going after these creeps. "
I don't know about the situation outside of my world of contacts, but i can speak of what i have been able to glean from inside my circle ---IT WON'T BE UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE STREETS!!!
at March 21, 2007 8:18 PM
Here’s a solution. Why don’t we simply screen school bus drivers to make sure they don’t pray five times a day to a God who directs them to:
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. - 8:39
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Just suggesting that this might be a good idea as this cult has recently authorized the execution of two million American children.
History will look very poorly on our current government and see Robert Spencer and those like him as a modern equivalent of Paul Revere.
at March 21, 2007 8:25 PM
Have you not noticed we live in a bomb free west? They tried the terror tactics and the result was millions of people telling them to piss off. (7/7) in particular spoiled their cause here. 911 set the dogs of war on them everywhere.
So now we have the slow jihad in the west, the insidious jihad. The kind of jihad that knows wiring bombs to an all American basketball hoop is likely to start WWIII.
Posted by: Mert at March 21, 2007 8:37 PM
FedUp
"I feel your pain".
How can so many politicians be so blind for so long.
I have just recently (past 2 months) come to understand the threat of Islamic jihad. It has become sort of obsession.
I have an excuse for taking so long. I just retired and have found the time to do the research on my own. It didn't take me very long, on my own, to learn why "they" hate us so much. Now I know.
Bush, Obama, Clinton, McCain... none of them have a legitimate excuse for being so ignorant.
Some political figure, and I don't care what political affiliation, MUST step forward and identify Islam as the root of the problems in Iraq and the "war on terror".
The threat of global domination by Islam is a bigger threat than global warming ( if a threat at all), social security , abortion and any other issue. We need to get this issue to a candidate who will pick it up and run with it to the White House.
I am waiting for a candidate, any candidate, to take on this issue as part of his/her platform. I will be with them 110%.
at March 21, 2007 8:39 PM
Your right
" 911 set the dogs of war on them everywhere."
Their fake god that was/is going to crawl out of a well better hurry up, the boys in r&d have some new toys they would like to try out!!!!!!!
Posted by: OLD SARGE at March 21, 2007 8:53 PM
"Three years later, schools and local police in this country are still unprepared to deal with such an assault. Most don't have response plans for handling a single active shooter, let alone a cell of trained terrorists."
So the question remains: What are we to do about it?
Do you have school-age children? Do you know people that work in education? Do you know who the First Responders are in your area?
Here is a checklist to start with:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/Schoolpreplist
How does the saying go...red sky in the morning...
-XRDC
Posted by: XRDC at March 21, 2007 10:23 PM
Do not scare people with hearsy stories. If anyone is planning to kill children, well then they must be arrested and brought before an Islamic court.
People! Some of your comments are beyond belief. When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this? Your parents? The media? Islamphobes? Study Islam before commenting o ignorant one!
Islam extends both olive leafs to you. Peace or war. The choice is yours, o infidel!
Give muslims peace and security. They will return the gesture.
Posted by: Abu Jehad at March 21, 2007 10:28 PM
olive branches I meant....can someone edit that for me....thank you
Posted by: Abu Jehad at March 21, 2007 10:31 PM
Get on it Hugh. Snap snap.
Posted by: pez at March 21, 2007 10:42 PM
"Give muslims peace and security. They will return the gesture.
Posted by: Abu Jehad"
Translation: Give us the jizya!
And even then, they'll still kidnap your sons and daughters and turn them into Janissaries and harem whores. Like the Turks used to do.
Even if non-Muslims withdrew from every piece of land that is or ever was ruled by Muslims, there would be no peace.
Posted by: WingedHussar at March 21, 2007 11:08 PM
“When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?”
Answer to part A: First, 9/11. Second, when I found out what Jihad means. Next, when I discovered that Islam sanctions slavery, among other things. What really sealed the deal was when I watched a Muslim saw off a human head invoking Allah’s name.
Answer to part B: Muhammad.
at March 21, 2007 11:09 PM
“When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?”
It was the airport shooting in Rome, in the late 60's I believe. Then the Munich Olympics, then the hijacking of many airliners, then suicide bombings of Israelis, then killing little children at school, then....
Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 21, 2007 11:41 PM
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Cruise this site Abu
at March 21, 2007 11:44 PM
Do not scare people with hearsy stories. If anyone is planning to kill children, well then they must be arrested and brought before an Islamic court.
Islamic court? You're nuts.
People! Some of your comments are beyond belief. When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this? Your parents? The media? Islamphobes?
The sawing off of human heads was a lovely touch; the suicide murders are another attractive feature unique to islam; so is the slave trade in Sudan; the hijackings and murders that have gone on against all non-islamics since the last 1500 years is partly responsible to for why islam is evil in many eyes.
Study Islam before commenting o ignorant one! Can't plead ignorance on this; have read the quran, the suna and ahaditha and studied them in detail as have many.
Islam extends both olive leafs to you. Peace or war. The choice is yours, o infidel!
Really? I'll choose war.
Give muslims peace and security. They will return the gesture.
Yes, with more hijackings, beheadings, slavery, suicide murders, ....
Posted by: witness at March 21, 2007 11:45 PM
"Islam extends both olive leafs to you. Peace or war. The choice is yours, o infidel!"
"Give muslims peace and security. They will return the gesture."
Posted by: Abu Jehad at March 21, 2007 10:28 PM
These are perfect examples of tu quoque and taqiyya, respectively.
I believe Naseem might have a formidable rival to "her" absolute control of the throne of useful idiocy.
Abu jehad, or Abu Jihad, or whatever his current posting name may be, is a true Muslim. Not intentionally griefing, but rather, actually believing everything he says, ignoring reason, and ultimately, struggling with the fact that he has vested all of his interest into an absolute failure of a belief system, that of course, being Islam.
Posted by: awake at March 21, 2007 11:52 PM
I recall in 2004 the U.S. found a computer disc in Iraq containing photos, floor plans and emergency procedures for six separate school districts, from California to New Jersey.
Posted by: Nimby at March 22, 2007 12:16 AM
Abu sez:"People! Some of your comments are beyond belief. When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this? Your parents? The media? Islamphobes? Study Islam before commenting o ignorant one!"
Abu...Abu...dear boy...possibly you have not noticed that nearly all the posters here know far more about Islam than you do. You are in way over your head. Has Allah put you to sleep? Wake up!!! If you would debate the experts here, you have to be alert and in top intelectual form. Judging from your posts, I dont think you are up to the job, but keep trying. It was Allah who said 'If at first you dont succeed, lay down and rest, untill the urge for success passes'. Most muslims have no problem with that, in fact, some have it down to a fine art. Abu...prior to refering to the posters here as ignorant, do some homework so you can actually make a point...
Posted by: duh_swami at March 22, 2007 12:19 AM
The consequences of an “American Beslan” has been soberly summarized by only JenBee. The naivety of other posts is staggering.
Very few people will be affected by such act. A school bus would have 25-20 children and if it is a multiple attack, the number can go up to 50-60.
Out of those 50-60 parents (men), very few would take up arms and try to do something. If they do, how many of them KNOW WHAT TO DO? Police will stop them in a few minutes.
Beslan was the best example of how spineless people are. It was not the first time Ocetia was attacked. Just being next to Chechnya, they should have expected a school to be attacked and yet they were surprised and unprepared. Many of them blamed special forces for the tragedy, not Muslims. The same will be in America. Those parents will blame Bush, FBI, CIA and so on. As in Beslan parents in America will just stand around and look their children being slaughtered.
Terrorism is not a new phenomenon. History provides us with good examples of what to do when we face terror and even more important: what not to do.
The ONLY weapon against terror is TERROR. Nothing else will work, never have.
at March 22, 2007 3:00 AM
"When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?"
My first big anti-Islam moment was when I ran into an Al-Muhajiroun demonstration in London in 1998. (The main slogan of the demonstration was "Islam - the future for Britain").
It went downhill from there, especially after 9/11.
at March 22, 2007 5:03 AM
Abu Jehad:
The Qu'ran tells me that the Jews make Uzair a son of God the way the Chrisians se Jesus Christ. In a lifetime of living around Jews and discussing/debating religion with them, I've never heard such preposterousness from them, nor have I read it in their books.
The Qu'ran also seems to say that the Trinity in Christianity is God, Jesus, and Mary, when it as always been the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
The Da'wa boys say that the Jews and Christians hve corrupted the Scriptures, but can never explain to me why the Jews and Christians, despite being non-cooperative, have been reading the same Old Testament for millennia now; and why the various sects of Christians rea the same New Testament.
The moral of the story is that Islam has neither argument nor evidence. That is why it is violent and terroristic.
Were I Muslim, the jihadis who fled while blowing up children in their car bomb or who taught the little girl in the article here to dedicate herself to suicide would have shaken my faith more than seven million Christian missionaries.
And, Abu Jehad, since you wish to be the father of war, may you face Allah with a bellyful of pork fat.
Posted by: Kepha at March 22, 2007 7:10 AM
Abu Jehad
"When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?"
Hard to say there is so many moments. I guess it started with being curious about the religion in highschool because of the large Somali student popualtion at my school. My curiostity brought me to a mosque where i met some true muslims (ones not tuned into the sensitivities of secular westreners, so they were unapolgetic about the unatractive elements) that filled me in. I think they had a chip on their sholder or something. They finially had a westrener cornerd and sounded off on a whole list of grivences. I just glad i made it out of that akward encounter alive. My later readings confiremed everything I was told. Two combat tours and my travels in the Muslim world and living in south Thailand have confirmed everything. I still rember how shocked i was when i first saw a bunch of bound and dicapitated bodies in Baji Iraq ( some were kids i knew that worked for us. One 13 and one 15) and the same depravity was seen in Afganistan. Free yourself Abu Jehad and join the rest of humanity.
Posted by: American_soldier at March 22, 2007 7:37 AM
Abu Jehad,
Since when did Islam lose my admiration ?
Ever since I read reliable history books on Islam's barbarous midsoings in the Indian sub-continent.
Islam is a backward, violent and an ignorant ideology masquerading as "religion".
I advise you to read about Hinduism, the Vedas and the Upanishads.
You will find that Hinduism is about freedom, questioning and living a rightful and enjoyable life.
Posted by: proud-hindu at March 22, 2007 8:22 AM
quote
Despite Islamic teachings against suicide and killing innocent people in battle, terrorist groups like Al Qaeda have used a fundamentalist form of Islam to justify an unholy war of terrorism.
..
The vast majority of Islamic fundamentalists are not terrorists, but their teachings have been adopted by terrorist groups to justify their actions.
..
But terrorist tactics run against the basic teachings of Islam. The Koran, the holy scripture of Islam, set strict rules against suicide and killing women, children, and old people in battle.
end quote
When does not telling the truth become complicity?
Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode
Begala: Virgil Goode is a bigot and an idiot.
If they call Goode a bigot and an idiot for saying stop Muslim immigration and their response to WTC 93 attacks was to let Atta in, when will they change? When will they ever learn, if they aren't taught the truth in school?
Posted by: Old Atlantic at March 22, 2007 8:35 AM
yet one more reason to educate the kids at home. If you are sending your kids to school, make sure you get to know the busdriver & school staff.
Posted by: americanmadestrat at March 22, 2007 9:45 AM
“When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?”
See my blog
Posted by: Rowane at March 22, 2007 9:59 AM
Aw, c'mon. This is an extremely silly article. Blaming the Democrats in Congress? Uh, if the government lacks oversight in this area, doesn't the last six years of 100% Republican domination of the government, Congress, Admin, Supreme Court, uh, uh, count for, oh, you know, just a teenny weeny bit of the problem? If the writer of this article wants to place blame for lax oversight, it doesn't belong to Democrats.
Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 22, 2007 10:12 AM
How about the school would be renamed for Muhammad when it was rebuilt? Or at least they would teach its destruction had been counter to Muhammad's teaching?
Posted by: Old Atlantic at March 22, 2007 11:28 AM
don't think the American people would stand still for this kind of bull shi'ite.
If anything would cause the people of this country to rise up and, as ONE, crush is-lame it would be for the terrorists to make a direct attack on our children. I'd be willing to bet that, a month after such an atrocity, there would be no more mosques standing and the only moo-slimes in the country would be underground, one way or another.
It was about a week after 9/11 that Bush warned the American people that hate against islamics would not be tolerated.
Hate crime legislation followed; then CAIR was sought for there expertise to help Bush.
I enjoy your optomism, but I think there are other realities -- people will have to fend for themselves.
And don't forget, there are plenty of islamic schools in the US too.
at March 22, 2007 11:29 AM
“When did Islam become evil in your eyes and who is responsible for this?”
Muhammad was responsible. Read this WarDaddy:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sira/03.htm
Several nobles of the Quraysh, including Utba and Abu Sufyan, went to Abu Talib (Uncle of Muhammad) and said, 'Your nephew has insulted our gods and condemned our religion. He considers our young men to be fools, and our fathers to have erred. You must either restrain him or allow us free action against him, since your religion is the same as ours, opposed to his.' But the apostle continued to preach the religion of Allah and to seek conversions, and the people hated him. Again they went to Abu Talib and said, 'You are aged, noble, and highly respected among us, and we have already asked you to prohibit your nephew from offending us. But you have not prohibited him, and, by Allah, we shall not overlook his insults unless you guarantee his future good behaviour. Otherwise, we shall fight both him and you.' After this they departed, and Abu Talib was much grieved by the enmity of his tribe; but he could not surrender or desert the apostle of Allah.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at March 22, 2007 11:37 AM
A Beslan-style massacre in the United States of America? Now THAT would be the End. Of. Islam.
No; really. I don't just mean the end of Islam in America, or North America, or The West... I mean the end of ISLAM, period. There won't be any mosques standing in New Jersery, nor Dearborn, Michigan; nor Hamtramck... none left standing in Birmingham nor London, nor NYC... not in Paris, nor in India.... NOR in Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.
There will be no Islam, and no Muslims (openingly practicing Muslims that is) if there is an American Beslan.
Muslims of the world, remember Pearl Harbor.
We will nuke your cities, your "holy" cities... we will invade and occupy whatever's left; the portions we need to take ALL of your oil. Israel will stretch from the Nile to the Euphrates, and you will live like the desparately poor Muslim fools of Niger.
If Bush and his toadies don't have the nerve to make the response that America will demand, we will elect someone that will.
There will be fistfights and knife fights in EVERY American city between men clamouring and shoving to enlist in the military.
If there is an American Beslan, look for an entire new political party to be swept into power: the one that promises to destroy Islam.
Do Muslims really want millions of American men to destroy them? We will be joined by China AND India.... England, Russia, Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Nigeria, Mexico... hell, we might even turn Japan lose on you. Oh, and don't forget our ally Israel, with their hundred nuclear bombs.
It really will be easy for us to do... the first thing we do is invade Saudi Arabia and start sending free oil and gas to America. Our Army is ALREADY NEXT DOOR, dumbasses.
Then all those car factories that have been shut down in the last 20 years are going to spring open to turn out tanks, jeeps, and hummers. Americans will be paying about twenty-five cents per gallon of gas at this point, so WW III will be easy to finance. Saudomy Arabia is going to pay for it!
AND: we freeze that trillion dollars that Saudi has in American banks. That would make a nice jump-start for our battle plans.
While we run millions of angry men through basic training and infantry school, we nuke every city that has over 500,000 Muslims. There MIGHT be a warning, but maybe not. Meanwhile, Europe expels every Muslim from the continent, all the way down to Constantinople. Yes, there will be a WALL.
Every Muslim will be expelled, once and for all, from India, Thailand, Nepal, The Philippines, Ethiopia, and every other nation with a Muslim minority.
I really can't understand why Russia did start this when the real Beslan massacre (of children by Muslim terrorists) transpired...
... but I KNOW that America would not stand for that.
Do you losers REALLY want to wake up this sleeping giant? You THINK that Allah will save you? Are you really willing to bet your lives, the lives of your children, the existence of you culture, your nations, your religion--on the possibility of murdering hundreds of American schoolchildren, in America, and then having America NOT destroy you? Wow. Those are pretty long odds.
Do you WANT a President Pat Buchannon with HIS fingers on nuke launchers? Do you WANT a President Tancredo, President Falwell, President Duke?
Do you really WANT politicians to make their SOLE platform issue, "I will punish Islam harsher than my openent"?
Do not think for one second that President Hilary or President Obama will go any more soft on you than President McCain or President Guiliani. Heck, it could be President ANYONE: Nuggent, Fonda, Mike Moore, Roy Moore, Billy Joel, Condi Rice, Jeb Bush, Jenna Bush, Jenna Jones, Ron Jeremy, Larry Flynt, Jerry Lewis, Tom Cruise, Tiger Woods... unless you get a nutcase like Nader or Cynthia McKinney (and you most certainly won't), YOU'RE DONE.
Perpetrate and American Beslan, and you're all toast. All you cities are glass, and uninhabitable for the next 10,000 years. Everyone you know, everyone you love, everything you call "home" is GONE.
When the dust settles, there won't be even 100 million "practicing" Muslims left. And most of them will be sterile, sick, and DIRT poor.
People like to throw around the phrase "relegated to the dustbin of history." But in this case, I think that it is not an exageration.
Don't find out. Think about the repercussions. Think before you act.
Allah is not going to save you from a million United States Marines. Your Qu-eeran is not going to save you from 1,000 ICBMs with nuke tips. Nothing is going to save you from the wrath of America if you murder hundreds--or "just" one-hundred--American children. Nothing.
The ghosts of Chesty Puller, George Washington, Ulysses Grant, George Patton etc. will guide us. And you will go the way of the Dodo.
keithjoy
fanorollins@yahoo.com
Posted by: kj at March 22, 2007 12:05 PM
Now that's the kj I know and love.
Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 22, 2007 12:21 PM
kj,
I think i love you. what a post. angry, accurate and prophetic. well done.
no to islam!
Posted by: No To Islam! at March 22, 2007 2:11 PM
I don't know if an American "Beslan" event would bring these results, BUT THEY SHOULD.
Posted by: fedupinamerica at March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
keithjoy
Let me know when you run for president!
YOU HAVE MY VOTE! AND A SIZABLE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION TO BOOT.
Posted by: witness at March 22, 2007 4:22 PM
Shouldn't 9/11 have been enough?
I've heard no American politician identify the enemy.
And Duke doesn't deserve to be in that list.
Posted by: Amillennialist at March 22, 2007 6:54 PM
Memo to Abu Jehad:
Islam is evil and becomes clearly so to anyone who is able to observe its ideological components objectivly. That requirement leaves you out because you are forbidden to think objectively about Islam in any way, like all Muslims.
Islam first made an impression revealing its inherent malignance to me when I read the Kuran's following pasage: "and when the forbidden months have passed slay the infidels everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, torture them, prepare every strategem of warfare upon them, levy the tax upon their conversion to the ways of al-lah." NOW, THAT is EVIL.
Did the hijackers of the 9-11 commercial jetliners require any formal legal arrangements from the shariat courts by the way??? No. The hijackers just went ahead and massacred thousands of American civilians-- and the Muslim world loved every minute of it.
at March 23, 2007 2:06 PM
KJ--I'm with ya. Pax re any bad blood in the past.
Once, I said that if I saw vandals trying to burn a mosque at night, I'd be the first to call the police. Were there an American Beslan, I'd join the lynch mob out to dip any captured perps in lard and set them on fire--alive. And I'd advocate that if the war then moved into Islamic territory, we'd have the self-respect to apply the rules of war only to uniformed combatants, and then, at the slightest hint of "People's War", to start massacring anyone taller than the wheel of a jeep (as for the little ones, the ones not eaten by jackals could be taken in by kind-hearted Christian and Jewish families. So, Abu Jehad, unless you want to end up as Abu Nazrani or Abu Yahud, don't press your luck with our forebearance. We are the land of lynch law, you know).
And yes, if we were to fight Islam the way the Mongols initially did, maybe Al "Mega-megawats" Gore would praise us for returning a goodly swath of the globe to wilderness.
When Muslim crowds start hissing at and shunning the families of suicide bombers, I'll believe this "religion of peace" talk. Not before.
Posted by: Kepha at March 23, 2007 10:07 PM
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