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Yet another indication of why Islamic reform is so exceedingly difficult. The Muslim Canadian Congress has had this kind of problem before. From CBC News, with thanks to WriterMom:
A moderate Muslim group that called for a separation of religion and state in a recent documentary has received a pointed death threat.The Muslim Canadian Congress received the message Tuesday morning. It was left on the Toronto telephone of secretary general Munir Pervaiz.
"I swear on 99 names of Allah, if you don't cease from your campaign of smearing Islam … I will slaughter you," the unidentified caller said.
Toronto police and its hate-crime unit are investigating.
The message was addressed to congress president Farzana Hassan and founder Tarek Fatah, and mentioned Allah's name three times in a row.
"It is scary," Pervaiz told CBC News on Wednesday.
"This is the first time that someone is really swearing in the name of God and it appears that person is taking an oath by announcing the name of God three times."
'Proves problem exists'
Pervaiz said the accusation of smearing Islam is a serious one, an offence that some Muslims believe is worthy of punishment.
The death threat comes after the Muslim Canadian Congress took part in a documentary that aired on CBC News on March 6. The piece examined the divides between secular and fundamental beliefs within the Canadian Muslim community.
The congress has been targeted for its moderate beliefs before, but never in such a direct fashion, Pervaiz said. Members have had their homes and cars damaged after sharing their opinions publicly.
"We want as many people to know that such a problem exists in Canada," Pervaiz said. "People thought we were exaggerating, but this now kind of confirms and proves the problem exists."
Posted by Robert at March 22, 2007 10:18 AM
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I cant say that I am surprised
Posted by: Elric66
at March 22, 2007 10:23 AM
MORE BLASPHEMY FROM THE MOUTH OF A MUSLIM:
Oaths
33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
at March 22, 2007 10:33 AM
What does this word mean?
Ghazawat
As in
Narrated Ibn 'Umar: During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.Sahih Bukhari 4:52:258
at March 22, 2007 10:37 AM
"We want as many people to know that such a problem exists in Canada," Pervaiz said. "People thought we were exaggerating, but this now kind of confirms and proves the problem exists."
And the arrest of 17 home-grown Islamic terrorist conspirators doesn't indicate a problem?
And the presence of the Khadr family, the al Qaeda family, the family that has expressed scorn for Canada yet stays in Canada for the health care offered to one of its members wounded in the jihad, all of that doesn;t indicate a problem?
And the presence of Imam al Hindy, the "spiritual" counselor of the Khadr family, the man who has declined to condemn Islamic terrorism because he's already "done so once" and to continue to do so "makes one appear guilty?" That doesn't indicate a problem?
And the attempted attack on LAX, planned by a Canadian Moslem and caught only by the sharp-eyed diligence of US border authorities? That doens't indicate a problem?
Posted by: Chatillon
at March 22, 2007 10:47 AM
The same old problem isnt it ?
islam is evil in the bone - there isnt truth or brotherhood as an ideal in it - so it just promotes aggression, deception and death for its grand poohbah called allah and child rapist rep Mohammed.
So the muslim cannot trust their own religion.
Think of Malcom X in NYC opposing his grand poobah and knowing there is a death sentence out for him and he is a walking dead man. Seeking protection he does not get it. And the puke who arranged to kill him (Farrakon) continues to head the muslim group.
The best thing a muslim can do is to search his conscience and say goodbye to this monstrosity.
Who would ever want to be part of such an ideology ?
And when possible, stamp it out.
Posted by: dgene
at March 22, 2007 10:50 AM
Islamists are out in full force in The Great White North, now imposing dhimmitude on Canadian colleges & Universities. Under the legitimacy of the "Canadian Federation of Students", an alliance of Marxists & radical Islamists have published a high-profile "Islamophobia" report that the media here is reporting on uncritically, calling for speech codes, hate-crime prosecutions, and sharia accomodation.
Click on my name below for my full post on this story.
Posted by: Neil Toronto
at March 22, 2007 10:52 AM
I wonder if the New York Times will be reporting on this? (not)
at March 22, 2007 10:53 AM
“Toronto police and its hate-crime unit are investigating.”
Which side are they investigating for hate associated crimes? Blow people up and you will be portrayed as a fighter against oppression, think about someone the wrong way and they are all over your ***. Somehow I’m not convinced they will find any evidence or the evidence they do find will be deemed an islamist right of ideology. I sometimes wonder, who is more dangerous to us, the islamists or law enforcement/media/academia that shields them at every opportunity?
at March 22, 2007 11:20 AM
Neil Toronto
Thanks for keeping watch. The report is amazing. I'll try to download it. It's like being back in my parents' days when the communists hunted down the "enemies of the people," "outed" and "unmasked" them and sent them to the gulag.
at March 22, 2007 11:44 AM
"I swear on 99 names of Allah, if you don't cease from your campaign of smearing Islam … I will slaughter you. Have a nice day"
Posted by: TheOmegaMan
at March 22, 2007 11:47 AM
Two conspicuous names are missing from Allah's 99: Yahweh and Love.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at March 22, 2007 12:35 PM
Comments made in the recent past by Tarek Fatah in response to Irshad Manji have suggested that Canada and the West are "Islamophobic".
http://www.canpalnet-ottawa.org/fatah.html
I appreciate and admire his contribution as a moderate, but he and other Muslims who think like him still have tried to bury their heads in the sand, and in doing so, have been part of the problem, rather than the solution. Hopefully this threat will be a wakeup call to them and to the rest of us. Its time for Canada to start dealing with Islamic problems head on.
Posted by: templar
at March 22, 2007 1:00 PM
"Death threat lobbed at Muslim group promoting moderate beliefs"
This is exactly why I say that there is no such thing as a "moderate moslim" whenever one raises his head he is culled from the heard.
Posted by: Rowane
at March 22, 2007 1:13 PM
This is why lawmakers in the West must make tough laws specifically targeting those who make physical threats (esp death threats) against individuals who speak out against an ideology or organization. Eg. Prison for those who call for beheading of those who criticize Islam, even if only as a general threat as part of a demonstration.
They should also make laws protecting people against lawsuits (as from CAIR) who in good faith report a suspicious activity of individuals that's possibly terroristic in intent.
Posted by: FM
at March 22, 2007 2:03 PM
Jihad can happen in Canada too. I am happy to see that some Muslims are speaking out against Jihad, sharia, ect. It's a shame that they have to risk their lives to do it. Could this mean that Islam in western countries could reform?
at March 22, 2007 2:36 PM
Would it help the cause of moderation within Islam if more groups stepped forward to support the drive towards nonviolence and church/state separation? What if liberal and conservative groups alike openly showed their support? Heck, what if the Canadia government, an opponent of terrorism, stepped forward? The more violence elements of Islam would seethe and rage, certainly, but isn't what is needed is a show of solidarity against the barbarism? I know it won't happen, but every time a threat is made, and it's only reported on, the Islamists gain more ground. Obviously moderate Muslims exist. I think now more than ever they need support of other moderates alike, both Muslim and infidel.
Just my .02 yen, idealistic as it very well may be.
Posted by: Eclectic Infidel
at March 22, 2007 3:20 PM
One of the suggestions which seems rational to me is that the psychopaths and nutters of the world flock to Islam because it legitimizes their criminal, evil ways. A large number of prisoners apparently do convert.
Posted by: cathkins
at March 22, 2007 5:18 PM
So all along now those Islamophobic claims for any vandalism at a Mosque just might have been as I suggested as a war between the Moderates and Islamists.
Iraq has shown us how little value Muslims put on human life when each Sect believes THEY are the True followers of Muhammed and it's the other Mosques that are full of Apostates and must be killed , so why should Canada be any different since the blood thirsty murderers for Allah
have permiated the Global Population to commit Terrorism everywhere they go.
http://nonprofitnet.ca/wao/wao.php?show&1086
And for all those niave Canadians that fell for the scam by CAIR and Maher Arar with his denial to terror friendly groups, just visit this Pro-Hamas website where his wife and the NDP MP
endorse suicide bombers by their overt silence to condemn strapping bombs to children as Palestinian Mothers do as praise Allah on videos
for killing Jooooos.
The Arar settlement was exactly that , a out-of-Court payment to shut them up and not an admission to guilt or declaration to absolve the Arar's as having no ties to terror groups like CAIR and the jew-bashing WAO .
Our Government Laywers advised Canada to avoid the massive costs for a lenghty Trial like the Air India scam which ran up to $80'000'000.00
and one of the terrorists is now Suing canada like Arar has done , Arar had only "Alleged" torture but in his original LawSuit against Jordan he detailed all the torture that his lawyer claimed was Jordan's fault and it never once mentioned Canada or the uSA.
When the Jordan LawSuit was rejected it was Arar's lawyer that turned his Wrath on the USA and Canadian taxpayers for the Pot-O-Gold by demanding $400'000'000.00 with the hope of forcing a $35 million dollars settlement which we now see ended up as only $12'000'000.00 minus the Legal fees for the bottom feeding Lawyers .
I'm glad Arar accepted the settlement, this now puts him in the position of being charged with Financial-Fraud to mislead a Judge or Inquiry to gain from those Lies , plus, lets sit back and watch how much of the money is funneled back to CAIR and Hamas or the Taliban to murder Canadians
by Global Jihad .
The NDP and now the Liberals have sided with Hams, Hezbollah and the Taliban by their failure to condemn either one , they also blindly accept any claim of Racial-Profiling or Islamophobia spewed by CAIR or Sheema Khan who lied to Justice O'Connor with her fabricated Survey of Human-Rigths abuses in Canada to Arabs and Muslims.
If they hate the West so much then CAIR should build a kiosk at all the Airports and warn Muslims to "Go back...go back " it's a Cookbook
for "How To Serve Muslims" and not a book to create an Islamic State with Sharia Law to killing all the Apostates and adulters.
at March 23, 2007 12:29 AM
The conflict is inevitable, and the Holy War is unavoidable, and therefore we cannot tolerate any moderate defaitism.
The enslavers, the elite of American lordists, are attempting to extend their rule across the whole planet. Either we all become their slaves, or else we exterminate that elite.
The Almighty Allah expects every man to do his duty.
Allah Akbar!
at March 23, 2007 1:15 AM
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