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March 28, 2007

How two teens were recruited for jihad

An illuminating piece by Mushtaq Yusufzai and Carol Grisanti for NBC News (thanks to all who sent this in):

"We were told to fight against Israel, America and non-Muslims," said Muhammed Bakhtiar, 17, explaining why he wanted to become a suicide bomber. "We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing," he said.

Last month, Bakhtiar and his school friend, Miraj Ahmad, also 17, left their home, families, and boarding school in Buner, a district of the Malakand Division of the Northwest Frontier Province. Their destination was the Muridke madrassa right outside of Lahore, Pakistan’s second-largest city. The madrassa or religious school is run by the Jama’at-ud-Da’awah, the charity linked to the outlawed terrorist organization, Lashkar e Taiba. And Lashkar e Taiba has links to al-Qaida.

The grounds of this madrassa looks much like the campus of any exclusive boys boarding school – except for the bearded armed guards sporting Kalashnikovs checking all those who come and go. There is a cricket field, swimming pool, all sorts of sport activities, and horses too. In addition to religious instruction, the school offers computer sciences, engineering and pre-med classes for students ranging in age from six to 17.

It also offers jihad.

"We read about jihad in books and wanted to join," said Ahmad. "We wanted to go to the Muridke madrassa so we would have a better life in the hereafter."

Recruited at local high school

Ahmad said that he and his friend Bakhtiar were recruited at their high school in Buner. The recruiter offered to take the boys to Muridke for two weeks of training and then to Peshawar where they would be introduced to people and make contacts.

"We were told it is our choice to become a freedom fighter or a suicide bomber," explained Ahmad, who had a neat beard and wore a white Muslim prayer cap. "But we should never fight against Pakistan."

Every morning the students were taught Islamic studies; afternoons were reserved for sports. Jihadi training was given in the evenings; two classes a night.

Posted by Robert at March 28, 2007 4:51 PM
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There's an interesting book I read years ago. It's called "Education for Death". Written by an Englishman, it cronicles the brainwashing techniques used by the Nazis on German youth.

VERY similar to what is going on in these madrazas. I am convinced these inazis have been reading this and similar books on ideological brainwashing techniques.

Just as I am convinced that bin laden and his bitches are big fans of the "Die Hard" series. To all those sycphantic liberals who go on about how "briliant" 9/11 was: give the Die Hard writers and director some Oscars already! They're the once who came up with the idea. Not that I believe they bear any responsability for what those savages did to us.

As a matter of fact, these movies have a refereshingly patriotic stance to them.

We need more movies like that.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 5:10 PM

Sounds like a well rounded education plan... but if they are going to be dead by 20, what is the point of high school? Being muslims, do they have a prom and what would the formal outfit be? Sounds like a waste of scant resources and financial mismanagement to educate someone for ten years so they can release a deadman's switch - not a lot to know about letting the switch go.

Posted by: Penfold [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 5:16 PM

"We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing"

Choose life, not death. If you are unhappy, then make different choices, because life is what you make of it; and committing suicide is not going to solve yours or the worlds problems.

Blowing yourself up is such an insane choice to make, and the ultimate act of selfishness and stupidity. But if you insist on killing yourself, then by all means, go right ahead!! But don't involve those who are sane and have chosen life.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 5:20 PM

Reminds me of the movie Syriana.

Posted by: Cheeky Human [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 5:23 PM

There is a reason they term it suicide for the reason these miserable people are murdering themselves to escape their existence.

Who is to blame but their thieving leaders who stole over a billion dollars last year while their people do not have schools, hospitals, jobs and housing.

They steal and the people suffer and are told to murder Jews, Americans and non Muslims.
Muslims need to rise up and give the rope to their imams, clerics and thug rulers and start performing some democratic dispersement of billions in oil and foreign aid into their own bank accounts.

They want life, well take the money back which is their money and empower themselves. Money will not buy happiness, but it sure will put them into a position where they can get some things done in life to make their lives into lives and not existence.

Muslims you are being raped spiritually, emotionally, physically and monetary terms by YOUR LEADERS. Start a jihad against them and solve your problems by setting yourselves free and stop blaming non Muslims, Americans and Jews.
You will notice we have lives and nations you want. The difference is WE ARE NOT ISLAMIC STATES!

Get the lesson and rid yourselves of your slave masters trying to get you to murder yourself.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 6:09 PM

"There is a cricket field, swimming pool, all sorts of sport activities, and horses too."

Islam perverts absolutely everything in the service of death.

In the West, we have developed sports as a kind of ritual combat, a means to channel natural human aggression and youthful restlessness in a positive direction. In sports, we are taught valuable lessons about teamwork, friendly and fair competition, self-improvement, grace under pressure, humility and magnanimity in victory, honor in a game well played whether in success or defeat. In short--good sportsmanship.

In the Islamic world, sports is undertaken purely as conditioning for violent jihad, kital, against the enemies of Islam--that is, against the rest of humanity. Slaying and being slain for Allah--that's all that counts. Sick. Sick. Sick.


Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 6:35 PM
There is a cricket field, swimming pool, all sorts of sport activities, and horses too.
Skip the cricket. Pakistan's cricket team has been a home to Jamaat Tablighi, and by the grace of Allah, that team has become a laughing stock - getting knocked out of the world cup first round. The prophet didn't play cricket - neither should the budding Jihadis.

Instead, admit 10 of Pakistan's 11 cricket team members into this Madrassah (the remaining one is still Hindu)

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 6:54 PM

"We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing," he said.

this kid has all the talking points of a liberal.. blame everyone else but yourself.
hey islamist you need to look in the mirror to see who to blame. go after your own leaders and ask why dont they go and put on bomb belts?

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 7:00 PM

"We were told to fight against Israel, America and non-Muslims," said Muhammed Bakhtiar, 17, explaining why he wanted to become a suicide bomber. "We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing," he said.

Unfortunately, this reality is prevalent in Islamic societies, and is, and will continue to be, a powerful impetus aiding in recruiting for the ranks of Islamic jihad. The joy of the Lahore kite festival, notwithstanding.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 7:11 PM

champ says something that is so logical and easy to comprehend to those who remember what shaping your destiny is (was) about before cultural relativity and political correctness infected our collective mindset:

Choose life, not death. If you are unhappy, then make different choices, because life is what you make of it; and committing suicide is not going to solve yours or the worlds problems.

From this statement, I ask the following of nobody in particular yet everyone not on the side of the cult of death:

- when will the courses start in universities which dissect and deconstruct the mindset of the development of the child of an islamist, or a child of islam, for that matter? All the scholastic work of centuries on child development...we have over time evolved a set of standards and common experience which shape us in somewhat categorizable 'stages'.
The child of islam does not go through the same stages. Do I have to give the example of Palestine?
Even the semi-dullard can deduce then, that the adult in islam is according to our standards incomplete, stunted, and having travelled down a route not entirely parallel to our own 'Western' experience.

There should be books on this galore. CONTEMPORARY ones...not ones on Nazi Germany or whatnot. There should be forums discussing it (not just on the net). There should be legislation coercing (yes, coercing) immigrants from a world 180 degrees to our own to get with our program.
The whores of the political world sell this culture out for a dollar, and for black gold.
I have predicted before, and I'll say it again...those that are in positions of power who can quickly nip this in the bud but who do not for whatever reason, be it votes, being stuck in the glorious times of their younger years in the 60's...the greatest generation created a strata of a generation who are mentally lazy, embarrassed for what their parents' culture stood for, and who want problems solved in a chaotic world with impotent measures.
The citizens will certainly eventually take matters into their own hands. We are NOT so civilized that self-preservation will not take on some ugly characterstics.
In a sane world, the question asked would be answered via common practice.
Some people really do hate themselves...
I'm just saying!

Posted by: anathema [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 7:18 PM

"We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing"

You mean Islam offered them no peace, fulfillment, purpose? Thus they needed the Jihadist fire to atleast make them feel alive? How sad...

Just say no to Islam-o-perilism
Jihadee go home!!!

Posted by: SoteriA [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 8:02 PM

Life sucks around here. So we went away to get a Degree in Bombacology.

The other Medical Classes must be for those who do poorly with their Lessons.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 8:11 PM

Say, I think this must have been where Dr. Evil got his high school diploma.
Rah! Rah! Let's die for Allah!

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 8:22 PM

step aside 12th Imam, someone else wants top billing

PAKISTAN: BROTHEL ROW STIRS TENSIONS
Karachi, 28 March (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - While reports of a crackdown on vice, namely music and dancing, are frequent in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province and tribal areas, the virtue-vice battle is now taking hold in the capital, Islamabad.

Posted by: akak [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 8:23 PM

Create life-hating zombies and what do they do?

Kill.

Same formula at work since 622 A.D. when the pedophile warlord began his march of rapine, pillaging and slaughter disguised as a "religion".

Promise them heaven for being inhuman.

It works with the emptied souls of these vessels of resentment, rage and rampaging.

Irrationalism breeds chaos, horror and doom.

The Koran is pure irrationality.

More will be spawned by it until it is gutted of its cruelty, calls to terrorism, homicidal hatred of all those it robbed of their original faiths (Jews and Christians) and everyone else who denies the worth of this dismal creed (Hindus, Jains, Budhhists, Confucians, Taoists, animists, agnostics, atheists, etc.) because they find their own beliefs -or skepticism- superior.


Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 8:28 PM

What would be a good recruiting catch phrase?

Join the Jihad and see the world blow up.
It's not a job; it's a short adventure.
Be all the pieces you can be.
The few, the proud, the dead.
Aim high, sky high.
Join the Peace Corpse.
Uncle Sammi Wants You.

My apologies to all the past US military recruiting programs.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2007 10:19 PM

They live in Pakistan and say there is nothing for them there........why, instead of making life better for themselves and others in Pakistan do they feel the need to kill people who live somewhere else or practise a different religion.
Admittedly they are young but really ??!

Posted by: marilyn [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 12:21 AM

Join the Peace Corpse

Hands down the best recruiting slogan for jihadists. Kudos Pelayo

Posted by: Xero G [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 1:27 AM

all jihdists, when blown up, should be sent to a pig farm and either put in the trough or soaked in pigs blood, this may keep them from doing what they do best...

Posted by: AllahFUBAR [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 1:28 AM
We were told it is our choice to become a freedom fighter or a suicide bomber


We wanted to go to the Muridke madrassa so we would have a better life in the hereafter


They admitted they were given a choice - but that last comment may give some insight why they selected suicide bombing over freedom fighting

Posted by: BODYGUARDS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 2:39 AM

""We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing"

You mean Islam offered them no peace, fulfillment, purpose?"

.....exactly!....peace, compromise, religious plurality, charity, love,liberty,life.....none are taught by the Jihadists....


"Their destination was the Muridke madrassa right outside of Lahore,"

.....Hmmmm, I wonder if the insane Islamic clerics of this madrassa in Lahore thought to share the wealth of Islam by purchasing furniture from our frequent poster Naseem?....


of course, if they showed up in her store, she would be wise to be armed....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 6:41 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Teen recruiting is sad news and really not in the interests of Pak...as we are trying to ramp up our tourism industry. The offical figure quoted is 1 millions of peoples to spend their hard earned money to be spent in Pak hotels, goods and foods...but is hard going at the moment.

Talibinisation is not really in the interests of Islam...or Pak...their brand is incompatible with most peoples living in Pak.

Unfortunetely we are starting to "reap" the rewards of Zia Ul Haq talibinasation policy. Use it in Afgan ...and keep it there...and in Kashmir ....BUT KEEP IT THERE was supposed to the policy...but as the link below shows...there are signs of it in the Islamabad centered around Lal Masjid.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/03/29/top4.htm

A sad day to see muslimas in full burka wielding daangs (long wooden sticks used as weapons).

I'm not sure it's suitable attire for fighting...or that this is the place of muslimas.
Police officers on the scene were actually "arrested" themselves by the madrassa students...and only released later in exchange for "prisoners" in jail (which disgustingly the authorities did).

This standoff at the lal masjid has been going on since Jan...it will be interesting to see how Mushi deals with it ...because it just won't go away quietly....the word is "no tele for the teleban".

Note this is not the bahaviour of the Ahmadi...so you are still safe with Islam with us.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 6:46 AM

JIHAD HOLIDAYS
Contact Jihadballout at the Internet Cafe on Sheik Osama Bin Laden Street. Alternative phone number:9/11,7/11
Greetings Glorious Muslim Youth. May Allah strengthen you in all your orifices-please remember to clean out nasal passages as Shaitan or a Djinn might be lingering there pretending to be pieces of snot.
We do have some goodies on the travel scene today and no follower of Allah,The Merciful & Compassionate, Mohammed is his Prophet,[Pubah] needs to fear disappointment. One of our favourite destinations,Chechyna, is alas, closed to the Jihadi due to operations by Wicked,Impious Infidels but our Emir there has a cunning plan
to incinerate a few tanks tomorrow and clear the road.
How about Afghanistan to those of you who like a
challenge? A large reward is offered for the capture of live Amerikis or Britons for the new
Decapitation Video which Mullah Omar has promised
he will personally supervise.
Want a taste of the Balkans and an exciting stay in Kosovo with our Albanian Brothers? This is your chance to kill stupid U,N officials and blow up their vehicles.For the nightlife there we
recommend meeting at Hitler's Diner where you will be introduced to Holy Warriors who have killed Jews and Serbs and other Unbelievers.
All inquiries will be answered personally by Iman Desai who
has come all the way from Afica to dispense his
wisdom.INSHALLAH.

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 6:53 AM

"Choose life, not death. If you are unhappy, then make different choices, because life is what you make of it; and committing suicide is not going to solve yours or the worlds problems."

You are so correct. What did those who came before us do during the Great Depression? They did whatever they could to provide for their families. Suicide bombers? Well, they're just leaving their families to fend for themselves while they go on to live the easy life in paradise. Now, that sames something about the Islamic train of thought, doesn't it?

Posted by: RIslander [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 7:25 AM

"'We were told to fight against Israel, America and non-Muslims,' said Muhammed Bakhtiar, 17, explaining why he wanted to become a suicide bomber. 'We are so unhappy with our lives here. We have nothing,' he said. "


Yup, them damned occupiers - Israelis, Americans and non-Muslims - have just such an evil, malign and oppressive influence on the Northwest Tribal region of Pakistan.

PINHEADS!

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2007 7:54 AM

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