that poll does not surprise me the least, but the questions should be asked if you have two choices which country would you rather live in the US or Iran ,and why?
l have some relatives who complain about the US,but they do go to the US for vacation and shopping trips. What you should realize that being #1 the US that is, there is a huge factor of jealousy, envy among other countries, especially in WEstern Europe.
Those young Germans who were polled would love to visit the US in a heartbeat, and even try to move over to the US. l dont trust most polls, as they ask questions to bring out the answers they want to prove their point.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at March 30, 2007 7:30 PM

From above,

that poll does not surprise me the least, but the questions should be asked if you have two choices which country would you rather live in the US or Iran ,and why?
Why ,thats a question that easily answered
FREEDOM,FREEDOM,FREEDOM!!!!!!!

Posted by: OLD SARGE at March 30, 2007 7:40 PM

Considering for the past 60 years Germans have been indoctrinated into believing they are evil and must always be wimpy socialist puppets, it is surprising the number is not higher.

You will notice the numbers reflect George Bush's popularity ratings and follows God's Biblical division that 2/3rds of the population are dolts. There is always a majority which is swayed by the event of the moment.
If one factors in the east Germans who are anti western and poll questions which state, "Do you believe reckless, cowboy, bombing George W. Bush who is a millionaire American who has more than pathetic socialist Germans is leader of a people more dangerous than those simple Iranians who have strong ties to Germany helping our economy?"

Always nice doing business with the children of Assyria in Germans in they make costly allies and deadly enemies, but always come running when the chips are down the Anglos and Americans.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at March 30, 2007 7:42 PM

Polls are too easy to manipulate, so I take such results with an iceberg-sized grain of salt. However, the results in this case could well be true since Europe, for many decades now, has seemed to be moving further and further away from reality and, into a strange parallel universe. Of course, when it hits the fan, as it will, the Europeans will come crying to us, yet again, begging us to spill our blood and use our treasure to save them. This time, I would hope we would decline unless we got something concrete like, say, the French and Italian Rivieras as payment up front.

Posted by: GaryK at March 30, 2007 7:52 PM

History repeats itself on a regular basis, you only know that if you read history, these muslims only read fiction.

Posted by: OLD SARGE at March 30, 2007 8:20 PM

This is very much off topic but i cannot resist.I have ben holding it back hoping another would break but anyway.

I hear vacationing in Umm Nasser palistine is not a good idea this year as they are having a flood.Although for an instant the rapids were fast and the green and brown waters were delightfuly foamy.However it appears a fowl odor has been emitting from the river and the locals are trying to understand why.One has to remember allah blesses the faithful muslims so bad water can't be the reason.Whatever the problem it is sure to be Israels fault,those god less dogs.

By the way one local has hung up posters asking the question "where did you get the corn and nuts?" "They were very tasty and i would like to buy some more,send your replies to hadji the sixth shack just off the NEW main river."

I'll bet every Israeli window within miles of that border are sealed shut.

This couldn't have happened to a nicer class of humans.

and the police post button says.....

Posted by: Dar al-harb at March 30, 2007 8:24 PM

Considering that America kicked the living shiite out of the nazis in an effort to bring them into the civilized part of the planet earth, it is understandable they would consider us "dangerous." They are no more relevant now that they were in 1946 - when they were starving and our planes were keeping them alive. Some things they should NEVER forget.

They came on to the world scene and were removed from the world scene - twice. Three times is not out of the question.

Posted by: infidel! at March 30, 2007 8:36 PM

Circa 1945

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 30, 2007 8:44 PM

Well, depending on exactly how the question was asked, there might be a certain logic to it. Think of it this way, what is more dangerous: a constantly angry, yapping, snapping pekinise dog or a normally relaxed but potentially angry lion?

Depends on your position: don't pull the lion's tail...

Posted by: Lili at March 30, 2007 8:44 PM

It's another reason I won't buy German made products, even though I would very much like to have a Porsche......

Posted by: n.a. palm at March 30, 2007 8:54 PM

No doubt.

We ARE more dangerous than the Iranians

And proud of it.

We are just in better control of our instincts.

For now.

Posted by: turn at March 30, 2007 9:10 PM

I find polls stupid and funny all at once. They ask 100-1000 people and make an assumption on the whole population. And we know that Germany is just like the rest of the EU - many muslims are moving in and will soon outnumber the locals.

So, who did they ask? And we all know that the EU has a vast majority of the population with their heads in the sand about what is happening in the middle east. Here we have a whole continent that is facing Islamic radicals and they prefer to ignore them and appease them. it is like they don't know their own geography with Eastern Europe being overrun by radicals. And their making of Che a hero on top of it all.

I would say that I question their intelligence level and the first thing I think of when I think of the Europeans, is... sheep. Dumb sheep who have to be protected by another animal (a dog) in order to survive the wolves, while they just go on their merry way chewing up the grass. (in the case of the Euros - smoking the grass is more like it)

Posted by: R_not at March 30, 2007 9:11 PM

Just returned from vacationing in Paris and Belgium last week. It's not just the Germans who share this negative view of America. The French and the Irish believe this nonsense as well, and they are not shy about telling you about their thoughts of America, and particualrly President Bush (though, in general, they were friendly in letting me know how much they detest Bush and in telling me how America is barbaric and a threat to world peace).

However, while visiting the small city of Bastogne in Belgium, every person I spoke with about America and Muslims understands the common Islamic threat, and they all had a very high opinion of Americans. Those people still remember our scarifice on their behalf during WWII.

Unfortunately, all those citizens of Bastogne who share our American views are 65 years old or older.

As for Paris, I never saw any Muslims while there (at least Muslims recognizeable by their dress). I assume the French maintain pretty tight security around the tourist areas downtown near the Seine. However, just days after I left Paris, about 100 "youth" rioters destroyed parts of the main train station (Gare du Nord) I visited while entering and leaving Paris. I am thankful I missed that.

There are many beautiful works of art in the Louvre, the Musee D'Orsay and throughout Paris. Of course, the Venus de Milo, Liberty Guiding the People and countless other works of art in Paris involve topless representations of women. Perhaps when the Islamists begin defacing these decadent and pronographic representations of women, as they are surely an affront to allah, maybe the French will wake up...but then again, maybe not.

Overall, because the French have their heads buried in the sand about Islam and because the Christian religion is dead there (I noticed practically no one attends church in Paris), look for a major civil war there within 20 years. It won't be Christian against Muslim; rather, it will be secularists against Muslims. I think the problems between the Huguenots and the Catholics in the 16th Century will prove comparitively mild.

I've only question about this predicted civil war: Can the French secularists defeat the French Muslims?

Posted by: tolivr at March 30, 2007 9:11 PM

I wonder how many of them think that America is controlled by the Jews?

Posted by: kevin at March 30, 2007 9:27 PM

More dangerous a threat to what world peace, exactly?

When has there ever been "world peace", exactly?

For 1350 years expansionist Islamic imperialism has been knockin' on Europe's door.

I guess they're now ready for "that long black cloud to be comin' down".

Sharia

The shadow of the pedophile prophet.

(How many German daughters will bear that name in the next century thanks to this kind of self-loathing, suicidal silliness?)

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 30, 2007 9:38 PM

It's another reason I won't buy German made products, even though I would very much like to have a Porsche......

Posted by: n.a. palm

So buy a Crysler instead.

Would anyone like to venture a guess about the outcome of such a poll if asked of American college students?

I would venture a guess that the German poll was tainted. Stern is a Freacking Leftoid magazine. Has been so ever since they started business.

They definitely want such a result for their poll.

All I can say Roise O'Fat is not German.

What a relief. I'd hate to be responsible for fat one, zat one, that one as well.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 30, 2007 9:43 PM

I really believe that the United States should announce to the world that we are no longer interested in other people's problems, that we will be closing all overseas bases and withdrawing our forces to the continental United States.

Let the Germans, along with the rest of the world, shift for themselves.

We've acted as a wall of protection for too many nations for too long. Let them spend their own blood and treasure protecting themselves.

We've done our duty to the world. Now it's their turn.

At the very least, they might learn to distinguish between good and evil.

Posted by: rational at March 30, 2007 9:59 PM

The Germans seem to have a habit of entertaining false beliefs. They should let other countries do their thinking for them as they ... think wrong.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at March 30, 2007 10:12 PM

@ Robert

Maybe it would be appropriate to start a category of most Dhimmi country.

Sad to say Germany is ahead in the race right now.

No need to bash the few who are trying to get the rest straightened out. I've had some hellish arguments with my relatives the last few years. Getting worse and worse too.

More than one just shut off and say they don't want to talk about it. All of them have used the Nazi/Racist argument against me.

So I ask them are those who warn about more anti-Semitism Nazis now all of a sudden?

Are those who point out the many parallels between islamic societies and fascist-run societies fascists for saying so?

It's like everyone is afraid to speak.

1984 indeed.

Reminds me of how Sigmund Freud described unearthing the pathologies of his patients [I can't recall the title but it's a collection of case studies and patient histories]. He says they'd invariably try to distract from the probing which was a good sign the doctor was getting closer to the source of the problem. Next would be tantrums and insults. Many of his patients ran out and ever came back. Only a few gace him the silent treatment but eventualy returned to the couch for tratment. Which is exactly I am trying to do with the Germans I know or am related to. I have to be careful not to let my temper get the better of me - I need to convince these people one at a time that they are facing a both moral and mortal danger.

Moral by allowing space to the devil once again. Mortal because all of Europe will cease to exist and thus all us Europeans will cease to exist as peoples should these ifascist followers of Lucifer [I call them iNazis] e allowed to continue their hostile takeover of our lands and culture.

Sadly this disease is spreading to the USA as well. If Hitlery gets in the White House - Sayonara!

I will continue working on the Germans until my heart stops beating.

I will be there at the Demonstartion against isamofascism tomorrow. It is time to stand up and be counted in the flesh.

Anyone in New York is hereby requested to support the Resistance by turning out and supporting us.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 30, 2007 10:16 PM

No doubt.

We ARE more dangerous than the Iranians

And proud of it.

We are just in better control of our instincts.

For now.

Posted by: turn

Then what are your instincts telling you we should do right now re. the iranian situation?

PS. Are you sure that SAUdi money might not be having an undue influence on the instincts of some of our leaders?

PS. And Thanks everyone for cheering me up with all the bad news coming out of Germany. This is worse than the World Cup.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 30, 2007 10:32 PM

If being dangerous means having the strength to be the first to say ‘enough’, count me in the 48%. Before you put too much thought into the poll, check out Stern’s web-site for context.

http://stern.de/

I don’t know the language, but the topless photos speak to me nonetheless.

Germany is solidly with us on this one. There is about zero chance that some whispy Arab is going to be allowed to stand before German males and proclaim the end of Bratwurst and beer. Never.

If I understand correctly, Germany is the only European nation that is not granting a general Citizenship to our Muslim friends. I've also heard that Germany is granting a $33k baby bonus and that birth rates have spiked.

Posted by: pez at March 30, 2007 10:33 PM

Since we're on those stupid germans.

Here's something that's got me sick to my stomach:
A "German" imam. Yechhh!

http://www.esnips.com/doc/529ca869-77a2-432c-972d-079b4698a4a4/ulfkotte_1/?widget=small

PS. This file has been getting targeted by moslems and it's been remoed from youtube and ifilm already.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 30, 2007 10:35 PM

I don't blame the Germans one bit for thinking that the USA is more dangerous than Iran. After all, we interfered in their internal affairs for a few years after devastating them in a war. Worst of all, we are so insidious in our propaganda and suggestiveness that about one out of every three American GI's who followed Eisenhower across Europe was, well, VOLKSDEUTSCH! Finally, we made it impossible for a large chunk of the German Volk to ever enjoy the Marxist paradise in which their intellectuals were so heavily invested.

By the way, Allahfanculo, re your view of Eureopans as sheep in need of a dog to protect them, did you notice that in the graphic novel _Maus: My Father Bleeds History_, in which the different nationalities have the heads of different animals (Germans = cats; Jews = mice), the artist did the Americans as dogs (both black and white ones)?

Posted by: Kepha at March 30, 2007 10:36 PM

If I start calling them Krauts instead of Germans will my comments be deleted?

Posted by: Pelayo at March 30, 2007 10:43 PM

"God's Biblical division that 2/3rds of the population are dolts."

I've never heard of this concept before. Please explain.

Posted by: Cheeky Human at March 30, 2007 11:06 PM

I am tempted to align my views about this with R_not in terms of who exactly was polled. Over time, as Muslims comprise more and more of the "Europeans" polled (put in quotes intentionally) what are we to conclude from such polls of "Europeans"?. At this point, however, given that this poll presumably sampled a thoroughly representative 48% of Germans, which couldn't possibly over-represent Muslim-Germans in the mix, as they don't remotely amount to that sort of percentage, one would have to conclude that these are the expressed attitudes of real native Germans. Still, I wonder at what point we literally won't actually know what it means when some poll of "Europeans" is taken in the not so distant future. Once Muslims comprise a significant percentage of Europeans and they express the typical views of Muslims, will it even make sense to refer to a poll of their attitudes as a poll of "Europeans" in any meaningful sense? And how will we know when that line has been crossed in demographic terms if the media taking such polls refuses to ever identify the respondents in empirically meaningful terms, rather than merely identifying the respondents as "Germans", or "Swedes" or "Brits" etc?. In comparable terms, if someone took a poll of "Texans" today, showing that a sizable percentage of them favored open borders with Mexico, what exactly would we make of that?

Posted by: Caroline at March 30, 2007 11:07 PM

Caroline,

Agreed on most, if not all, points you raised. Demographically speaking, Germany is already dead, or synonomously, Islamic, if the current trend continues.

The repulsion you are feeling is a direct response to PC multiculturalism, the current affliction of the West. It is nauseating and difficult to comprehend, but real nontheless.

Polls don't grow, like a virus, tainting all in its ever-expanding sphere of dominance, but Islam does. Islam is the problem and the enemy. PC multiculturalism merely aids and abets Islam in its well-documented objective of domination, as prescribed in it's immutable texts.

It is not wise now, nor ever will it be, to "put the cart before the horse."

Posted by: awake at March 30, 2007 11:45 PM

Message:
It's funny that while self righteously claiming to stand for pacifism and human rights, the Germans appear to be completely unwilling to put serious economic sanctions on Iran. They have the power to put enormous pressure on Iran, to hold them accountable for their human rights abuses, their defiance of the UN, their sponsorship of terrorism etc. and to do so without bombs. Yet they don't and the longer they don't, the more likely it is that an armed conflict erupts. Is this pacifism? Or just crass opportunism? The Germans make money trading with Iran while knowing full well that the US and/or Israel will eventually take care of any threat that Iran might pose. And while the bombs are falling and people are dying they can act all innocent, "We told them not to do it but they didn't listen. We're in your corner." Good for you Germany you win all around! You can get on with calling Americans a bunch of religious fanatics while kissing the behinds of those who preach from their "holy" places that vengeful suicide bombing is the sure path to heaven. Is this the kind of pacifism that you Germans are so proud of?

Posted by: Cristobal at March 31, 2007 12:02 AM

On the good side: Spiegel editors and writers seem to "get" more about islam than most mainstream media, and at least some are not anti-American.

Posted by: del at March 31, 2007 12:34 AM

Considering for the past 60 years Germans have been indoctrinated into believing they are evil and must always be wimpy socialist puppets, it is surprising the number is not higher.

Does Hans und Franz ring a bell? We're being mocked in the LEFTIST American media and the rest of you buy into that the same way that Germans buy into negative stereotypes perpetrated against Americans in the German LEFTIST media.

I hope I am making a point here.

THEY are dividing. I am trying to UNITE!
I am trying to make us whole.

We are from the same history and stock and culture.

The ONE thing the islamos hate is to see us united!
Same for our leftist Fifth Column. THEY wish to divide us.

Let's not hand them their objective so easily.

I objected to Brit-bashing and America-bashing many times on this forum and I'd appreciate the same for Germany and France and the other usual whipping-boys.

That's not only uncouth - but more importantly -
counter-productive.

There are MANY decidely Pro-American and PRO-Israel Bloggers in Germany. They fly the Israeli and the American fags proudly in the face of derision. We fly banners for our brave Danish Brothers as well since they've been attacked so dastardly!

I'm a friend of Poland and Russia too. And the Czechs and the Serbs.

Let us STOP fighting old past wars from 60 years ago and beyond.

We MUSt defeat islam first. If anyone has bones to pick - please pick them AFTER we've ensured our basic freedoms!

Thank you.

PS. I am outraged that Germany isn't making more noise for the British sailors taken hostage by iran. I am saddend and ashamed, OK?

What more can I say or do?

I am DISGUSTED with my German government for hiding like little lapdogs on this.

What we must do is to encourage the many many Germans and French and all the others who DEMAND more action on their behalf to speak up!

Just like during the Falklands.. the "regular Joe" [or Hans if you will] Germans were all in suppirt of England vs. the Argies, but all you got was the official media representation. And what you was the lackluster support from other Euro guvmints. And the anti-British attitude of the general European press.

Hell! They do NOT speak for us!

Why don't you go to a German pub and find out what they think of what should be done for the Brit-15?

The media certainly don't!

Let ME take a poll at some German pubs. The results will have us look like a bunch of warmongers. On behalf of our British friends.

Thank you for reading. I am trying to make an alternate point of view heard in a forum of outsider voices.

We are the MAINSTREAM!! We are the silenced to death MAINSTREAM!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 31, 2007 1:03 AM

"I really believe that the United States should announce to the world that we are no longer interested in other people's problems, that we will be closing all overseas bases and withdrawing our forces to the continental United States.

Let the Germans, along with the rest of the world, shift for themselves.

We've acted as a wall of protection for too many nations for too long. Let them spend their own blood and treasure protecting themselves.

We've done our duty to the world. Now it's their turn."
-- from a poster above

Not possible. But god, is it tempting. So very tempting.

Posted by: Hugh at March 31, 2007 1:07 AM

PS. The MSM have certainly done a GREAT job turning the rest against Germany. Wunderbar!

Great job!

Well done!

I can't stand that JIHADWATCHERS of all people should BUY this Propagarbage!

The "official" Germany and their media deserve NOTHING but contempt I agree.

But let's please not throw out the baby with the bath water!

THEIR aim is to divide [and conquer by making us seem divided]
MY goal is to UNITE us all.

We - most of us - are part of the anti-jihadist fold!

We've been brow-beaten for being "bad people" for so long and now the International-Socialists the *iNazis* are having easy game with us.

Do NOT help them in this!

I propose that European Football fans begin to show some UNITY amongst ourselves. So what if Bayern loses to Chelsea or Inter loses to Madrid!!

As long as we in-fight THEY will win.

THEY are united my friends, and they have our institutions for the most part on their side. In ALL our countries!

I will be glad to sing "Jerusalem" for the English when i see England restored to her rightful place.

And sing the "Marseillaise".

These songs signify all our freedom now!

We all depend on one another for our own freedom.

To the football fans I say: Be friends from now on!

Watch the games together.. cheer on your own teams of course. Then have a few pints with the "other guys" - win or lose.

We have our differences but we have SO much more in common with one another than we have with the encroaching iNazis who are setting up camp amonst us all.

The Borg have breached the SHIP, dear friends!

Internecine quarreling makes us that much more expolitable by the enemy side.

I for one cheer any European side taking on a moslem team - even if it's "bad" for Germany on a given day.

I am a German patriot but I am just as much a European and an American Patriot.

I am an Australian Patriot as well.

I root for you all. I root for US all.

And I am not the only one.
And no - I am not a dreamer.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 31, 2007 1:20 AM

God.. this Deutschland-Dhimminess makes me SICK!
Better get some rest now so I can be there for the anti-iNazi rally tomorrow.

I SAW 9/11 from closeup with my very own eyes.

I heard the intial explosion when the first plane hit the firts tower. It woke me up in fact.

I can still HEAR the vicoious brazzle of the burning fires.. I saw people jump rather than being burnt alive.

I heard the futile wailing of sirens.. police, fire department and ambulances..

I smelled the sickening stench of bodies burnt alive!
Reminded me of what I'd heard the holocaust must have smelled like.. a sickening sweet kind of smell..

I am a WITNESS!

I hear the anguished shrieks of my neighbors and from windons and rooftops near and far as if it were happening right now.

I am a WITNESS!

Incidentally I was also the first among those I was with to say; "bin Laden" and I was called a "racist". By Americans. Then the second plane hit.

They still were looking for other possibilities and I insisted: "Bin Laden."

I was not a racist then and I am not an appeaser now.

Good night and good luck.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at March 31, 2007 1:35 AM

allahfanculo, I agree. "The laughter of Mordor [puns with Murder?] will be our only reward if we quarrel" (Gandalf, in The Lord of the Rings by J R R Tolkien). This applies to Americans vs Europeans, Germans vs. French vs. English; it applies to Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican and other Protestant (Islam doesn't care about our quarrels except to profit by them - and if we wear a cross we're a target), Christians and Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Chinese vs Indians, indigenous vs. non-indigenous in the Americas and Australia, non-Muslim religious people vs. atheists and agnostics. Islam wants to kill or enslave us all.

To tolivr - please, don't despair yet. Though it seems to me that a 'Great Awakening' of the church in Europe is at present the only hope - even for the secular atheists. And the church is not quite dead, just harder to see...google 'l'abri' and 'taize community'.

But oh for the equivalent of the horn-call of Buckland (Tolkien, again): "Awake! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!"

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at March 31, 2007 2:30 AM

Allahfanculo:

Amen!

I understand some non-productive venting, but there is no reason to proclaim any battle, any country lost, or any cause futile.

We need to win. Nobody every made money underestimating Germany----wouldn't bet against them now.

The free people of the world must unite. All willing to speak the truth about Jihad, including secular Muslims, are friends.

25 years ago, who would have thought that Poland and Australia would be two of the strongest countries against an international threat that could threaten the Germans, the UK, and yes, the U.S.

Anything can happen, we each just need to play our individual roles and collectively hope for the best.

Since Lord of the Rings has been mentioned (a great series of books about the confrontation of evil), we need to be the riders of Rohan in the battle of Gondor---full speed ahead into the frey, and God bless us all.

Posted by: JSobieski at March 31, 2007 3:19 AM

The article - " Evil Americans, Poor Mullahs" is a wake up call for not only Germans but all Europeans. Following is the disaster that awaits the world if Iran obtains a nucleur weapon.

IT’S ALL ABOUT IRAN

We need to deal with Iran now otherwise the US could be left at one minute to midnight with no other option but to attack Iran. The longer the US waits to impose a meaningful sanction regime against Iran, the greater the necessity of military action will become – with all the potential disastrous political and economic consequences for both parties.

The Iranian Sanction Agreement just negotiated by the Security Council is an absolute joke. The US is allowing these countries to delay and obstruct sanctions against Iran.

THE REALITY IS THE US DOES NOT NEED CHINA OR RUSSIA TO INPOSE SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN. THE US CAN IMPOSE DEVASTATING RECIPROCAL SANCTIONS

(Go to www.irandemocracy.net)

Lest we all forget one of the main reasons for the Iraq war was that China, Germany, Russia and France had been bought off by Saddem through the UN Oil for Food program. It is hard to believe that these countries by their present actions are again moving us in the direction of war with Iran. By their greed, they are totally blind to the very real danger Iran poses to the entire Middle East. There is an impending political and military catastrophe facing America, Europe, China and the World in the Middle East. This catastrophe will lead to a disastrous disruption of oil supplies that will force oil prices to $10.00/$20.00/gallon and throw the world economy into a massive recession affecting all world economies espically the developing economies of China and India. This could cause political instability on a world wide scale. The reality of the situation is that you can talk with the Iranian leadership until you are blue in the face - AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. Iran is marching forward to obtaining a nuclear weapon and will not be stopped with endless talk. TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.

The West faces the greatest strategic defeat in its history.

As described in this article - if the US is forced out of Iraq the following disaster will ensue.

The Iraqi government immediately collapses.

All Iraqis who supported the Government and US flee the country by the hundreds of thousands.

Iran immediately steps into the power vacuum supporting the seizure of Baghdad by their radical Shiite militia allies.

A radical Shiite Islamic government is imposed on Iraq.

A podium against the Sunnis begins with millions killed. The survivors are driven out of the country.

One million Hezbollah style fighters are enlisted into the radical Shiite Militias. (If Hezbollah can muster an army of fifty thousand fighters from a Lebanese population of 1.5 million Shiites – then in Iraq a Hezbollah style government would create an army of one million Shiite fanatics.)

This force in alliance with the Iranian army captures Riyadh within weeks and seizes the Gulf States.

They then march into Jordon creating a Shitte Crescent stretching from Iran to the Suez Canal and from the Mediterean Sea to the Russian Cossacks.

As previously mentioned - with 80% of the world’s oil, under Iran's control the price will soar to $10.00/$20.00 per gallon.

Israel is attacked with rockets on all sides effectively shutting down the Israeli economy and destroying the Jewish state.

After obtaining nuclear weapons, Iran unleashes terrorist forces worldwide attacking Europe and the US.

These terrorists smuggle nuclear weapons into London, Paris, Washington, New York and kill millions.

This nightmare does not have to happen.

Its time for Europe to wake up and realize that it is not US cities that will be within range of Iranian ballastic missles but Berlin, Paris, London, Madrid etc.

Written By,

Larry Houle

E-mail: intermedusa@yahoo.com
www.irandemocracy.net

Posted by: Larry at March 31, 2007 3:59 AM

A feature of not only what is being reported by their media....drip....drip....drip

but unfortunately also a result of what is being preached in their pulpits.

Even their clergy are lefty-libs.

Posted by: The Goobs at March 31, 2007 6:55 AM

I take this poll at face value, and am only surprised that the numbers aren't higher. I'm sure the numbers would be the same on most other parts of the world, including in America in such places as San Francisco, Portland, and Vermont. I am firmly convinced that if someone was to claim that the United States caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, at least half the world would believe it.

Posted by: Balrog at March 31, 2007 9:30 AM

Does anyone else not see the similarity between Tolkien's LOTR and the current Islamic issue (not the "rings" part of it)? Sauron = Mo (of course - or Islam itself). We must "unite or we will fall". We need to stop bashing our potential allies and unite against the threat that is Islam.

Polls have always been slanted to bring out the desired result. I don't believe any of them.

I have been trying to convert, one at a time, those who do not understand. If we all did that, even if we only converted one person a month, think of the numbers added to our ranks. It's hard. We are labeled terrible things, but we must keep going.

In Aragorn's words "Stand, Men of the West" (we'll take those in the East, too).

Posted by: igetit at March 31, 2007 9:36 AM

I am an american living in Germany and I believe this poll is accurate, thanks to the poison that Gerhard Schröder fed the german people with his populistic crap from 1998-2005. However, please read the ENTIRE commentary. It is extremely PRO-american and serves the germans a much needed slice of humble pie.

Reading just the opening paragraphs to the commentary just does not do it justice.

Posted by: bonncaruso at March 31, 2007 11:26 AM

Let's put it this way: we could make a point of being very 'dangerous' to the German people.

Not that we could be more dangerous to them than the Germans have managed to be to themselves-- they forgot to have children over the past two generations and are now going extinct as their population implodes (now THAT'S pretty dangerous!).

Posted by: pythagoras at March 31, 2007 1:45 PM

Is USA more dangerous than Iran? I really hope so!!

I really hope we remain more dangerous than Iran. If Iran gets an access to the WMD, then Iran will be the most dangerous country on this planet. Europeans don't appear to understand that.

My guess is that the Germans may not think highly of Bush and relate him to the US. I don't believe for one minute the Germans hate the US. I don't know the details about the statistics conducted by the German newspaper to figure the credibility of the results.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at March 31, 2007 6:00 PM

This German survey shows the result of a left-wing brainwashing since almost 40 years in both parts of the country. Most people do think the anti American propaganda was only forced by the Sovjets in East Germany, but the western part was (is still) under cover brainwashed too.
The public Media like the 'Spiegel' was and still is influenct by people who where more governed by the left 'Generation 68' spirit like the former Chancelor Gerhard Schroeder. You know, he is working for the Gazrpom, a "post Sovjet" Company now.

Posted by: carl ranseyer at March 31, 2007 6:19 PM

Larry, I doubt that Shiites will take over Sunni territories, Sunnis are far too ruthless for that.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at March 31, 2007 6:36 PM

Hi,

First, I am a German born 1985 in the west. For me it is funny and scaring to read your "theories" concerning the origin of the result.

Because of the WWII things etc. We in Germany are still thankful that you beat Hitler and protected us against Russia.

Topic:

In fact: Like a guy allready wrote. The USA ARE more powerfull than Iran (and you are proud to be it). So are you more dangerous too?

The point is that the USA are the most powerfull nation ever seen on this planet and if you want to attack a country you can just do it. Iran can't. You can't deny that. So the USA are more dangerous for universal peace than Iran.

And this question isn't only a hypothetical one. George W Bush had proven that your country can attack every nation without an reason, except for oil. Last time 2003.

greetings, Phaidon

(I am not pro-Saddam too but I have the opinion that up to 70 000 dead civilians are a high cost for a free Iraq. Is a civil war really better than a dictatorship? Tell that the dead one.)

PS: Sry for my bad English.

Posted by: Phaidon at April 1, 2007 7:18 PM

And this question isn't only a hypothetical one. George W Bush had proven that your country can attack every nation without an reason, except for oil. Last time 2003.

greetings, Phaidon

(I am not pro-Saddam too but I have the opinion that up to 70 000 dead civilians are a high cost for a free Iraq. Is a civil war really better than a dictatorship? Tell that the dead one.)

PS: Sry for my bad English.

Posted by: Phaidon at April 1, 2007 07:18 PM

Phaidon, do you have any idea how much this war has cost the American taxpayers? Do you actually believe that we are in Iraq for PROFIT???? Iraq has cost billions of dollars and the lives of thousands of our young soldiers. We will continue to squander money and watch our soldiers die for probably years to come and you actually believe we're doing this for oil?!!! If that is the case, why does the price of gasoline continue to escalate? I don't know what the media in Germany churns out to the masses, but apparently they mimic the BBC.

And where did you arrive at a figure of 70,000 civilians? Most of the civilians killed in Iraq were killed by Iraqis, and what about the tens of thousands of innocent civilians killed by Saddam? Iraqis and muslims in general are the most sadistic, barbaric, brutal, feral people to ever call themselves "humans." We do need to exit Iraq posthaste; we should have left long ago. The moment we do leave, all hell will ensue and Iraq will become a Shi'ite hellhole like Iran, but at least they'll be killing each other instead of our people, and just one of ours is worth a million of them. Human life means nothing to islamic savages and the US government is crazy if it believes we can civilize these primitive barbarians. I wish we would leave tomorrow and let the internecine slaughter begin. The fewer muslims in the world, the better.

Sorry you think America is a threat to "world peace", whatever in the hell that is. I suppose pacifist Europeans would prefer to be subjugated under islam than to fight for freedom but we Americans haven't reached that sad point yet, and I pray we never do. We'll try real hard not to drag you into our battles, and maybe we'll even insist that you defend yourselves for the first time in sixty years. Self defense might deplete the welfare funds but what the hell, I guess survival is worth a little sacrifice.

Posted by: Susanp at April 2, 2007 12:51 AM

Hehehe…

I hate to play the anti-Semite card BUT.
Two things to consider when talking of Germans and the rest of the EU:

#1) Liberated the Europe exactly from what? White only? Who do you think most Europeans blame for having foreigners in their midst? Hitler or the freedom everybody equal Yankee Philosophy?
I think you are missing the logic train that is hading for the brutal reality.

#2) WWII started around 1938 Americans came in around 1944. Liberated? Every educated European knows that USA came in on the war-spoils and to counter the Soviets from dominating the whole continent.
Wasn’t it Churchill who said: “If it wasn’t for the Americans we would be speaking Russian”?
Bombing Hamburg into oblivion is not liberating. At least not as far as Germans are concerned.

USA is nice, if you have money. That’s the problem. I don’t know too many civilized people who would choose living in Black ghettos of Detroit over Tehran. Islam suck @%^#%$#! But drugs, vulgarity, uncontrolled homicide and social anarchy are far worse.

Posted by: Nordic Freedom at April 2, 2007 3:35 AM

If Americans should ever learn a French word it's "nuance". Why must every problem in the world be regarded in terms of black and white? Yin & yang? Why the dualism?

Why can't a person feel that President Bush is a danger to the world in much the same way as mister Achmedinejad is? Why can't some people say they feel that the Israeli authority is not helping the peace-process in much the same way as the Palestinian authority is?

Why must it always be the good and the bad? I think this is what worries most Germans about the more patriotic of Americans; They don't seem to want to understand there can be such a thing as nuance.

If the violence of terrorism is not going to bring about any change for the better; why would we assume that violence in our name would?

Get out there and get to know a muslim a.s.a.p. Talk to these people. Ah and while you're at it; get a hold of an atheist, a black man and a homosexual too!

Posted by: Roosenvelt at April 2, 2007 5:52 AM

@Susanp

"Phaidon, do you have any idea how much this war has cost the American taxpayers? Do you actually believe that we are in Iraq for PROFIT???? Iraq has cost billions of dollars and the lives of thousands of our young soldiers. We will continue to squander money and watch our soldiers die for probably years to come and you actually believe we're doing this for oil?!!! If that is the case, why does the price of gasoline continue to escalate? I don't know what the media in Germany churns out to the masses, but apparently they mimic the BBC."

So can you tell me why you invaded Iraq? I looked often cnn at that time and even the German TV had starship-troopers like headlines "War on terror" etc. So I guess it is possible that really 60 percent of the Americans thought that Saddam has WMD's. But we know that this wasn't true. Than Bush said that there is a link between Osama and Saddam. I hope you know today that this is nonsense. There was only one reason to attack Iraq. To remove the dictator Saddam Hussein. That is a good one but the Europeans feared that there will be a civil war. The US ignored this warning - why? I think because of they wanted the oil and wanted to beat the Europeans. I saw on TV US guys who were analysing the Iraq oild fields before the war started. And the US army was used to protect the oil fields instead of protecting the population. Before the war started many oil fields had been controlled by European especially French companies. Now after the war the owners had been changed. This way Europe lost indepandence and became more addicted from Russia and the US.
Btw in Germany you pay $ 7.29 per gallon.
And you can't tell me that nobody in US is earning money making this war.

"And where did you arrive at a figure of 70,000 civilians? Most of the civilians killed in Iraq were killed by Iraqis, and what about the tens of thousands of innocent civilians killed by Saddam?"

iraqbodycount. Yes, most of them had been killed by other Iraqis - but only because of your incompetent occupation they have the possibility to do that. I know only one kind of occupation which had prevent this civil war. No one.
Saddam didn't slaughter his population anymore. There was no reason to start the war.

"The moment we do leave, all hell will ensue and Iraq will become a Shi'ite hellhole like Iran, [..]."

Yeah, you are right. Do you still think that it was a good idea to remove Saddam Hussein?

"Sorry you think America is a threat to "world peace", whatever in the hell that is. I suppose pacifist Europeans would prefer to be subjugated under islam than to fight for freedom but we Americans haven't reached that sad point yet, and I pray we never do. We'll try real hard not to drag you into our battles, and maybe we'll even insist that you defend yourselves for the first time in sixty years. Self defense might deplete the welfare funds but what the hell, I guess survival is worth a little sacrifice."

I have problems with the expansion of the islam too. But as long it is peaceful and every person can free decide by his own to became a muslim or not I will do nothing against that. Europe allready beat the violent expansion - 1683 at Vienna.

Posted by: Phaidon at April 2, 2007 9:34 AM