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"But no one dares profile them."
"Terrorists – coming to a school near you: Police ill-equipped to defend against an American Beslan," from WorldNetDaily.com:
Authorities fear the school massacre that shook Russia a few years ago may be a dress rehearsal for what al-Qaida plans to do in America – only on a grander scale, launching multiple school attacks simultaneously across the country.In 2004, Chechen terrorists associated with al-Qaida seized a school building in Beslan, Russia, and slaughtered 338, including 172 children.
Three years later, schools and local police in this country are still unprepared to deal with such an assault, experts warn. Most don't have response plans for handling a single active shooter, let alone a cell of trained terrorists launching a large-scale attack.
Yet terror cells secreted inside America may be planning to use buses, as well as other vehicles and methods, as a Trojan horse to infiltrate school campuses and massacre students and teachers.
The FBI and Homeland Security Department last month distributed a bulletin to law enforcement across the country warning that Muslims with "ties to extremist groups" are signing up to be school bus drivers. They also noted "recent suspicious activity" by foreigners who either drive school buses or are licensed to drive them.
"The enemy is infiltrating us at all levels, and certainly school bus drivers are one area to look at," warned retired Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, president of Killology Research Group, an anti-terror consultancy that trains the FBI and other law enforcement. "And how about high school, middle school and elementary school cafeteria workers? Janitors? Delivery people?"
Grossman says some school district security officials he works with have expressed concerns about some of the Muslim employees schools are hiring.
"But no one dares profile them," he told WND.
Posted by Robert at April 2, 2007 11:25 AM
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"But no one dares profile them," he told WND.
Look at the shift we are now in: Good becomes evil and evil becomes good.
Where is the moral fortitude to correct this?
Posted by: sounder
at April 2, 2007 11:44 AM
If there are any moderate muslims in this country(and that is a big IF)and they are found out to have had information concerning an attack like this on our kids before hand but took no action to alert the police, then they get what they get.
Posted by: OLD SARGE
at April 2, 2007 11:45 AM
The moderates are the jihadists. They are closest to the teachings of Mo
Posted by: Elric66
at April 2, 2007 11:46 AM
It wont happen , it doesnt have to happen, we are giving them what they want without bloodshed.
Posted by: KAOSKTRL
at April 2, 2007 11:50 AM
""But no one dares profile them,"
...WHY NOT!!...they sure profile us....
at April 2, 2007 11:50 AM
I for one profile any muslim i encounter, don't you!!!
Posted by: OLD SARGE
at April 2, 2007 12:00 PM
All I can say that if the Jihadists ever try a stunt like this here, paybacks are a bitch.
Posted by: William The Crusader
at April 2, 2007 12:09 PM
"But no one dares profile them," he told WND.
What a f###ing absurdity.
In Islamic countries they take note if you are non-muslim and act on it. Why cant we do the same in reverse?
Political correctness, left-leaning attitudes, human rights is killing us. All of our institutions badly need an ideology transplant.
Our institutions slap us, the natural citizens down if we protest. It is time we voted the political correct elite out.
BTW, in Russia they have just passed news laws forbidding immigrants from doing certain jobs : like selling food in a market place. Russia knows what the threat is, but the difference is, it puts Russians first.
at April 2, 2007 12:20 PM
If Jihadists do strike at our children in some Beslan style attack, the public retribution against Muslims and their supporters will be truly terrible.
The Muslim fundies don't get that Americans won't play nice with them if they go after our kids - its serious taboo they're breaking.
On the plus side if you can it that. Such an attack will put an end to multiculturalism and the liberals pushing it.
at April 2, 2007 12:23 PM
I profile them all the time. I am an islamphobe because I know their koran and hadiths. I know the history of their prophet better than they do and know what jihad is and their stated goals for our country - and the world. Even if anyone doesn't know the above, all they have to do is pay attention to the current world history in the past several decades to figure it out - it is wise to be an islamophobe.
Posted by: R_not
at April 2, 2007 1:08 PM
While profiling should not be hindered it is not the end all. There is much more the schools should be doing but aren't:
School safety advisory & checklist
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Schoolpreplist
-XRDC
Posted by: XRDC
at April 2, 2007 1:09 PM
A good JihadWatch t-shirt for the days after an atrocity: "But no one dares profile them."
Posted by: StillBreathing
at April 2, 2007 1:15 PM
As soon as science and political correctness knocked out the name of Jesus from every corner of society these new problems arose and Allah has gained more ground for permission than the Son of God. Their problems without God’s guidance have been brought down to us, what problems they had in their countries is now ours. We let it happen Jesus was not asking for much unlike Allah does and in a way we get what we deserve now put up with it because prophecy says their is much more extremism to come this story has to happen the dragon is building his armies in all cities.
Posted by: jesusisthelamb
at April 2, 2007 1:28 PM
The problem is not only do we have to put up with atrocities such as the Moscow theatre and the Beslan school massacre, we have to listen to the liberal MSM, particularly the BBC, explain how it's really all our fault for not being nice to them!
Why can they not just tell the truth and say they are evil screwed-up b******s who need to be sorted out?
As to profiling, it is the only sensible course but tragically it will take another massacre or two to shut the liberal PC crowd up.
at April 2, 2007 1:34 PM
This article was like reading my own mind. LOL.
Posted by: Foehammer
at April 2, 2007 1:35 PM
An Urgent Message From the Desk of David Horowitz
Dear Supporter,
Liberals are so afraid of offending Muslims that they are denying these facts which are staring us in the face:
•Muslims the world over are engaged in an openly declared Holy War or Jihad against the West.
•This Jihad is a grave danger to our nation and to all of Western civilization.
•The Jihad challenges every facet of American life. Its agenda includes the purposeful and systematic dismantling of all aspects of our culture. It hopes ultimately to impose Sharia law on the U.S., replacing our law with provisions such as the stoning of adulterous women and cutting off thieves' hands.
•The extent of the threat is not being effectively and truthfully communicated to the American public.
These are the reasons my organization is now sponsoring Jihad Watch, an information and action campaign to alert the American people to the real threat of the Muslim jihad, and what needs to be done to make our country and our civilization secure.
I am writing to you today to ask your support.
Here's just one example of what we need to expose:
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."
Do you have any idea who said this?
It was Omar Ahmad, the chairman of the board of CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations. CAIR's spokesmen appear regularly in the media complaining about the treatment of Muslims and giving us the message that "Muslims are part of the fabric of this great country and are working to build a better America."
But when speaking to a Muslim audience, as Omar Ahmad was, the message is not so benign.
I'm certain you didn't know who made this statement. The media are too eager to portray Islam just as Muslims wish them to. But I'm out to portray it as it really is.
The threat of Islam's Holy War is so dangerous that we can't continue to allow Americans to remain ignorant. That's why I brought in the most hard-hitting and knowledgeable expert in Islam I know, who has already been running the Jihad Watch website on his own for several years.
He is Robert Spencer, author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and other books, who has studied Islamic theology, law and history for decades. He has been a consultant to the U.S. State Department, U.S. Central Command, the Department of Homeland Security and the German Foreign Ministry on Islam and Jihad, and has appeared on the BBC, the VOA, CNN, and numerous other TV and radio outlets to discuss Jihad and terrorism.
His most recent book, The Truth About Muhammad, has been banned in Pakistan because it contains "objectionable material" about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. An official at the Pakistani Embassy in Washington said: "The book is very, very damaging - let me tell you."
As a long time supporter of Robert's work, I know you understand better than anyone, the importance of the Jihad Watch project. I decided to sponsor and expand the work of Jihad Watch because Robert is not afraid to tell the truth - even though it has led to his being targeted with death threats by militant Muslims. In a recent Al-Qaeda videotape, he was actually mentioned by name as one of four people the terrorist groups regards as its most formidable enemies. And here's one of the more colorful threats he received:
"May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over again.... Amen."
That's supposed to be a prayer! Have you noticed any Christian or Jewish prayers like that? And if you received that kind of threat - along with many others - would you continue to dig up and publicize the truth about Islam? Robert Spencer does, even though he has to conceal where he lives and some things about his identity to protect his family.
Robert is a hero. I'm proud that he is heading up Jihad Watch for us.
The Jihad Watch effort includes booklets, articles, speeches, email campaigns, Internet, and as many appearances in the media as we can get. We're already experts at getting media attention, and Jihad Watch is the kind of hot topic that TV and radio hosts love.
We need to raise $180,000 for the next three months of Jihad Watch. I hope that you will help us with a gift of $25, $50, $100 or more. Click here to give. https://www.donationreport.com/init/controller/ProcessEntryCmd?key=F0M2I3C2Y4
For your gift of $25 or more I'll send you Robert Spencer's pamphlet, What Americans Need to Know About Jihad. For your gift of $50 or more I'll also send Robert's Politically Correct Guide to Islam. If your gift is $100 or more, I'll also send you the book that was banned in Pakistan, The Truth About Muhammad.
I know that many Americans do not want to face unpleasant facts. Too many refuse to admit that Islamic jihad is out to destroy America and is already influencing much that goes on in the media, the entertainment industry, schools, libraries, and other institutions.
I hope you are one person who is not afraid to face the threat and do something about it. Please respond right away with your generous gift.
My Sincere Thanks,
David Horowitz
President & Founder
P.S. Imagine American women submitting to wearing a head scarf, or giving up contact with unrelated men. Imagine the Koran as the ultimate authority over our daily lives. That's so hard to think about that it appears unreal. Yet that is the exact goal of the jihadists' Holy War. Please help me fight them with the truth.
at April 2, 2007 1:39 PM
David ...
Can you please post a link to the page that takes contributions?
Thanks!
Posted by: Morgaan Sinclair
at April 2, 2007 1:59 PM
https://www.donationreport.com/init/controller/ProcessEntryCmd?key=F0M2I3C2Y4
Posted by: tgusa
at April 2, 2007 2:10 PM
Is wonderful the light colonel is being listened to now as I posted the same message long ago. Oh to be the clique and so right and shunned when you are breaking the news other people take credit for.
The game of money for hype includes one an all left and right.
Posted by: Lame Cherry
at April 2, 2007 2:11 PM
Shortly after Sept. 11, Daniel Pipes said all that needed to be said (unfortunately I might add). Dr. Pipes stated that it will be education through murder. I'm afraid he is being proven correct.
Posted by: johnb
at April 2, 2007 2:13 PM
The link is uncooperative, please copy and paste it into your browser. Sorry.
J/Wers, how much is your civilization worth? 25, 50, 100…….?
at April 2, 2007 2:18 PM
Shortly after Sept. 11, Daniel Pipes said all that needed to be said (unfortunately I might add). Dr. Pipes stated that it will be education through murder. I'm afraid he is being proven correct.
Posted by: johnb at April 2, 2007 02:13 PM
Seems its the only way these appeaser of jihad will learn. Sad to say.
at April 2, 2007 2:20 PM
Connecting some dots here may be in order -
School buses - -Wasn't it just a couple weeks ago we were reading about
suspicious applications for school bus drivers?
Earlier we read about:
Extremists Buying School Buses
Jihad Watch: Florida man who tried to buy ambulance and police ...
Dhimmi Watch: Jihad at the St. Petersburg Times
Note: Abdalla Deiab was involved in transactions to aquire school buses AND surplus emergency vehicles.
School buses, police vehicles, ambulances -
a most sinister combination.
Suspicious activity reported involving ambulances
From the website NEIN -
With video feed link here -
UPDATE - This culprit was apprehended but here is the story:
OPP Warns Of Phony Cop
Friday March 30, 2007
It is a breach of trust that makes cops crazy - somebody impersonating one of their own.
It's the scenario that's facing the OPP and now they're fighting back.
They're received numerous reports about a man in "uniform" who's telling people he's a member of the Ontario Provincial Police. He's been on a whirlwind tour of hospital emergency departments around the GTA, asking what's being described as 'disturbing' questions.
And he appears to be the real thing. He has the costume down pat - complete with the force's official crests. He wears the regulation blue uniform pants. And most ominously, he appears to be packing a firearm on his side.
Cops are sure he's not one of theirs, but they don't know who he is or exactly what he's up - except that it's likely no good.
"We would like to know why this is happening," admits Cst. Graham Williamson. "It gives us real cause for concern."
So far, the man has been spotted at St. Michael's Hospital, The Hospital for Sick Children, and Trillium Health Centre in Mississauga among others. He's been to seven ERs within 24 hours and the real cops have no idea what his motive may be or where he got his hands on what looks to be a real uniform.
"It's extremely serious," Williamson adds. "Something like this casts a dark shadow. It does make us look bad."
Patients aren't happy to hear about it, either.
"I'm scared about us," declares Carlos Mbutu. "That cannot happen in hospitals. Maybe they lack security."
The staff at Trillium spotted him on Thursday night and called the real thing when his story didn't check out.
That's one of the places where he was caught on security video, and it may be the best clue cops have.
The man is described as being in his early 20s and roughly 6 feet tall.
What should you do if you run into someone who ignites your own doubts?
A legitimate officer will show an official ID to any citizen who asks for it without complaint. If you're still not sure, you can also call your local police division and check on the name.
And check out our photo gallery of the suspect below. If his face rings a bell, call the O.P.P. at 1-888-262-4821.
***
Recall this NEIN post in 2005 -
Probing Activities in U.S. Rise Sharply
by Douglas J. Hagmann, Director
20 May 2005: A "sudden surge" of individuals possessing and attempting to use false credentials, badges and in some cases, uniforms to probe key areas within the infrastructure and emergency services of the United States is being reported by federal law enforcement officials. A significant increase in potential terrorist probes is being reported concurrently on three levels as detailed below:
Surveillance & Active Probing of Power Plants, Water Treatment Systems, and other Areas of U.S. Infrastructure Active Entry Attempts at Hospitals, First Responder Stations (Ambulance & Fire) to Access Information & Assess Response
Electronic Probing of Critical Computer Systems
"Sensitive" reports compiled this week by the Department of Homeland Security are showing a consistent, nationwide increase in attempts to breach security at key locations within the U.S. by individuals using subterfuge and false credentials, according to the report labeled �restricted dissemination.� The report cites a sharp rise in incidents of individuals using fictitious identification who have attempted to gain entry into restricted areas of hospitals, medical facilities, fire stations, and ambulance and rescue stations. In some cases, there have been reports of thefts of various equipment, including biohazard suits and protective clothing.
Also cited in this report is a significant rise in "suspicious activity," further described as "the surveillance and photography" of key elements of our infrastructure, including nuclear and conventional power plants, water treatment plants, chemical storage facilities, gas refineries and storage facilities, bridge structures, train and subway stations, and large office buildings. In some instances, ventilation systems appeared to be the focus of attention.
In situations involving hospitals and key medical support facilities, security has thwarted all �known fraudulent attempts� to gain access to restricted areas or information, according to the report. [Emphasis added]. A number of cases were cited where individuals using fake credentials, once questioned further by internal security, fled upon more detailed questioning. Some imposters have been identified and investigations are in progress.
Regarding reports of active surveillance and photography or videotaping of critical infrastructure, the report states that the �number of incidents of suspicious activity reported to police agencies has risen dramatically since April.� Details regarding these activities were less specific in terms of their disposition.
Attempts to gain access to confidential, proprietary and information described as �sensitive� via computer have also risen sharply. According to specific reports, attempts included both those of �intrusion� as well as those involving individuals conducting pretexts via e-mail. The report describes the latter form of these attempts as �creative� and seeking to exploit human vulnerabilities.
In situations involving individuals engaged in the above activities witnessed by law enforcement, security personnel and others, suspects have been described primarily as well groomed Arab men appearing to be in the 25-40 year-old age group, although men appearing to be of Hispanic origin also accounted for 10-15 percent of the incidents described. Further, a number of suspects were identified as Caucasians within the same general age range.
Everyone in the emergency sector as well as those involved in the security of our critical infrastructure are advised to be on a heightened state of alert for the activities described above.
****
This has always been a serious concern, as people can easily find uniforms, badges, not to mention steal company vehicles that would have common access to secured areas. People that enter government buildings are thoroughly searched and go through a metal detector, however having observed people simply bypass security measures completely by showing a badge on their belt or nameplate on a lapel and nothing more. Everyone should pass through these security measures even if in law enforcement. A little inconvenience is better than unnecessary insecurity.
Here are a couple more stories from the recent past:
Hospitals Warned Of Terror Threats
Terrorists Could Target Hospitals After An Attack
Aug 11, 2004 11:08 am US/Eastern
NEWARK, N.J. (AP)
Hospitals have tightened security since recent warnings of potential terror attacks, with one area medical center banning deliveries from outside flower shops.
The move comes after state counterterrorism officials warned hospitals they could be targeted by terrorists immediately following an attack, crippling efforts to treat victims.
The warning was communicated through the state Department of Health and Senior Services.
"Hospitals have been asked to improve their security, preparedness, and to test and drill," state Health Commissioner Clifton R. Lacy told The Star-Ledger of Newark.
Saint Michael's Medical Center is only a few blocks from the headquarters of Prudential Financial, one of five locales cited Aug. 1 by federal officials as potential terrorist targets.
"We are definitely making the hospital harder to penetrate," said Mary Danish, corporate director of emergency preparedness for Cathedral Healthcare System. It operates three Newark hospitals, including Saint Michael's, where deliveries from outside flower stores are now banned.
The state Office of Counter-Terrorism also warned ambulance operators earlier this week to guard against suspicious people. The bulletin came after workers at two rescue squads and one emergency room reported fielding strange inquiries.
Jihadwatch reported on hospital probes:
From WABC
New York, "Government Alert: Hospital Security Breach"
New York —
Imagine - people posing as doctors and inspectors, just walking into a hospital and demanding information and patient records. Now the Department of Homeland Security is taking action.
The last two hospitals where it happened were in Newton and New Brunswick, New Jersey.
This really has federal authorities puzzled - intruders masquerading as doctors and inspectors probing hospital security. But there is no evidence the cases are connected, including two in New Jersey. Hospital officials and security experts say the similarities are disturbing.
It happened on Easter Sunday.
Here we are today, the beginning of holy week for Christians and tomorrow is first Passover Seder - the above previous incidents took place Easter weekend - coincidence?
AHA pdf link{no longer online}
(original pdf no longer at first link- http://www.aha.org/aha/key_issues/disaster_readiness/content/advisory15.pdf">second link w/pdf via way back machine)
The American Hospital Association issued the bulletin from the Dept. of Homeland Security. Some of the detail:The identity of these intruders remain unknown. We do know that security cameras at the Newton Hospital did capture video of the three men pretending to be doctors. That tape is now in the hands of the FBI.3/27/05 NJ hospital reports 4 separate instances within 6 week period.
From 2/26-3/10/2005 three additional hospitals (LA, Detroit, Boston) reported suspicious activity.10/24/2004, two hospitals in Phoenix, AZ (as well as hospitals in Texas and Indiana)(these hospitals happen to be distribution points for antedotes to biological attacks).
2/7/05 Middletown Regional Hospital in NY also reports suspicious surveillance by two individuals (SUBJECTS) using identification badges representing themselves from Department of Defence and CIA.
at April 2, 2007 2:34 PM
Can anyone make a list of the most influential and powerful advocates of "political correctness" and "multiculturalism" in our country? Maybe the victims of terror and crimes perpetrated by illegals can sue them for facilitating the activities of terrorists/illegals.
Posted by: george_rem
at April 2, 2007 2:34 PM
Daniel Pipes Speaks at UCLA.
http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr004=7sd22hq0m1.app7a&page=NewsArticle&id=14313&news_iv_ctrl=1221
Admission is free.
Attendance is mandatory. IMHO.
at April 2, 2007 2:57 PM
Speaking of schools, I saw this item this morning about the threat of "Christian terrorists." As you know those fanatical Christians are going around beheading people and forcing people to convert to Christianity.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/04/the_christian_terror_threat_to.html
Posted by: TexasInfidel
at April 2, 2007 3:19 PM
Self-handcuff job
Can we go back to the part where profiling was rendered verboten? And what did our ruling elites base this extraordinary decision on?
I assume they found profiling to be unconsitutional, unfair, un-multiculturalistic, something like that.
Can somebody please refer me to the federal law that prohibits profiling?
610 * 623 * 632 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
Profiling in the general sense is a basic police method whereby variables are ground down into commonalities so as to enhance enforcement quality.
So to prohibit profiling Moslems is to consciously reduce our quality of safety in connection with Moslems.
at April 2, 2007 3:33 PM
Thus far, the supremely confident advancing jihadists have dealt exclusively with appeasing "smiling eunuch" political leaders (as Mark Steyn termed them)and brainwashed unarmed citizenry. I have a feeling that Beslan-type atrocities in the U.S. could finally unleash the first serious countervailing force these savages will have faced in some time - an armed and angry citizenry. If angered enough to not be afraid of what their own government will do to them, it could be a pretty effective force against not only the jihadists, but their supporters and enablers as well.
Posted by: Infidel33
at April 2, 2007 3:54 PM
I know it is off-topic but here is what I mentioned earlier:
Trading ban targets non-Russians
Russia has banned all foreigners from working as retailers in its shops and markets under a new law which came into force on Sunday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6515293.stm
====
I have no doubt this is the tip of the Iceberg.
Expect a whole swath of laws over the next 5 years in Russia designed to protect Russians.
It shows that the Kremlin understands and Putin is no fool.
So why doesnt Western politicians protect the West in the same way?
Expect also over the next 5 years, more illegal immigrants (many Muslim) entering Europe from
Afghanistan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Pakistan
Tajikstan
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
partly because Russia has made it diffcult for them emigrate there.
at April 2, 2007 4:29 PM
tgusa-
Are you going? There has got to be a way to weed out the useless idiots that are only there to take seats away from sincere attendees. I say make everyone pay admission, fully refundable at the end if they contribute in a positive way to the discussion.
-XRDC
Posted by: XRDC
at April 2, 2007 4:43 PM
tgusa & morgaan
Here is the donation site in question - just so that people can link in directly.
Only question I have - when David Horowitz talks about the JihadWatch effort:
The Jihad Watch effort includes booklets, articles, speeches, email campaigns, Internet, and as many appearances in the media as we can get. We're already experts at getting media attention, and Jihad Watch is the kind of hot topic that TV and radio hosts love.Given that Horowitz gets more radio and TV appearances than what Spencer gets, I do wish he's focus on those things more during his appearances. Also, he needs to get with Robert and Hugh and decide whether the best Infidel strategy is to stay on in Iraq, which is the mainstream conservative position, or withdraw from Iraq and let Muslim fight Muslim, as Hugh has so brilliantly advocated over time.
If everybody who agrees with us on the threat of Jihad then turns around and says that we should remain in Iraq until the job is done, then either we aren't getting our message across to our own audience, which really reflects poorly on our delivery, or Hugh is wrong, and we should stay in Iraq until Islam becomes as cuddly and lovable as Christianity or Judaism. Which one should it be, David?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at April 2, 2007 4:47 PM
READING -- RIGHTING -- RITHMETIC
By BILL MARSH
Published: March 31, 2007
THE math isn’t pretty. As of February, there were an estimated 636,000 “fugitive aliens” in the United States — foreigners who have ignored orders to leave the country. They may have entered illegally and been caught (about 60 percent of all fugitives), or they may have visited legally but then overstayed their visas or committed crimes.
In any case, they are on the government’s list and the government wants them out. Taken together, they would rank as America’s 18th-largest city, ahead of Baltimore, Boston and Seattle.
Washington (the 27th-largest city) has deputized a force of about 318 officers in the Department of Homeland Security to track and apprehend the fugitives — a backlog of roughly 2,000 fugitives per officer.
--Read the rest here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/31/weekinreview/01marsh.html?em&ex=1175572800&en=c769d17ded07b798&ei=5087%0A
at April 2, 2007 4:50 PM
i looked at the link XRDC posted above,
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Schoolpreplist
and it seems to be pretty thorough.
maybe it would be a good start for parents ask their schools if they have read that info, and what action they have decided to take as a result of that reading.
at April 2, 2007 4:58 PM
Killology Research Group
Straight out of Batman. You cant make this stuff up!
at April 2, 2007 6:04 PM
I am convinced the pet food thing is a dry run.
Cancer chemical in pet food, melamine in pet food.
The next time it will be in human food, especially since no one is concerned with the safety of our food, it's just the almighty dollar that rules. Import wheat from China? Why?
We can't insult islam? Just using our commonsense is against US policy. Can we insult Christianity?...damn right. You know Janet Reno burned the compound at Waco( they were not mainstream Christians) to the ground, killing a lot of kids....why? Well to protect them from being molested...I didn't know that was the way to solve that little problem. If a mosque was involved with the same rumors, would we burn it with the people inside? Oh I don't think so. There is definitely a difference in the way islam is held over our heads in the world.
at April 2, 2007 6:12 PM
All I can say that if the Jihadists ever try a stunt like this here, paybacks are a bitch.
Posted by: William The Crusader
I hope you are right, but I'll lay you odds that our military would be ordered to protect the mosques, instead of us.
Posted by: interestinconundrum
at April 2, 2007 6:19 PM
OLD SARGE says,
"I for one profile any muslim i encounter, don't you!!"
Damn right I do! I see a bunch of Moslem males, speaking Arabic, loudly laughing and disregarding all the "unbelievers" (free people) among whom they move, I wonder what they are doing at this location, what they are up to, and look upon them as potential anti-Americans. I don't know nor do I care whether they hold U.S. citizenship, as that has been so cheapened by the Saudi-purchased officeholders at State (visa express, etc.), that this no longers enters into the picture.
No matter how many protestations "We are as American as you are," a Moslem is a Moslem. Unless he/she proves by acting as an American (reporting suspicious jihadist activities), these Moslems are part of the problem.
The solution: Watch 'em, and keep watching 'em, no matter if the multiculti dupes of the ROP look upon you as a "racist," "Islamophobe," or "bigot."
Profiling is incumbent upon any American, it's all we civilians are permitted to do by our power-elite keepers. Only be careful what you do with the results of that profiling. CAIR and the courts are not sympathetic with that activity.
But then, you always have the choice: Would you rather be dead than sued?
at April 2, 2007 6:46 PM
His most recent book, The Truth About Muhammad, has been banned in Pakistan because it contains "objectionable material" about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. An official at the Pakistani Embassy in Washington said: "The book is very, very damaging - let me tell you."
That's the best possible endorsement you can get! That should be included in the liner notes next printing!
interestinconundrum, I am thinking the exact same thing as you. I just made several lengthy posts on the next thread describing how they treat native Germans in their own country who dare fight back with their fists [no weapons] when they are attacked and harrassed. So I don't want to go on about it again. But that's what they'll be doing here to anyone who stands up for themselves.
I don't quite get it with the rush to sellout. But they're doing it. Are they that naive and that greedy? The greedy one should be calculating enough to know that thaey or their offspring will be cast away just as the useful idiots who will share their fate.
Where are these self-enrichers and money-grubbers go once they've allowed the monster into the house?
We've got a fire starting. It can still be put out. But all we are seeing is a fanning of the flames.
The Left and their damnable slogan "no blood for oil" would make me laugh if they weren't so dangerous since they have all the power. The slogan should read "No Sellout for oil money"
at April 2, 2007 6:54 PM
"Steyn, "the neo-con weasel" never mentions immigration. Too non-PC, too dangerous"
....from a post above
With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about?
Steyn is one of my favorite columnists. I strongly disagree with him (and Hugh Hewitt) on the iraq issue, but he is spot on most of the time.
Posted by: Infidel33
at April 2, 2007 7:04 PM
Until jihiadists off someone like Rosie O'Donnell (haram feminist infidel lesbian), the march of Islamic Imperialism into the West will be blindly protected.
By their Useful Idiotarian Brigades in the extreme left media (studiously ignorant about the dismal dogmas of Mohammad and intolerant, terroristic Mohammadism) / the politico class (anyone with greenbacks is kosher to them, whether Saudi "prince" or Dubai "sheik") / and the stupendously greedy and indifferent business interests (flooding the country with illegal alien workers and Muslim "refugees" to depress the wages of Americans and reap short-term, suicidally-stupid "profits" in this devil's bargain).
But the jihadists know better than to hurt those assisting their invasion. The islamo-infil-traitors deceive their "liberal" dupes ("interfaith priest andf rabbies" and the arts, t.v. and movie types who love to kick every faith but Islam) brilliantly.
Mohammad and W.C. Fields have the same motto:
"There's a sucker born every minute."
Posted by: profitsbeard
at April 2, 2007 8:21 PM
Watch the children,
keep them safe,
they are our tommorrow.
Teach them kindness and respect,
good from bad, that life is not easy,
there is happiness as well as sorrow.
Show them how to be brave,
and how not to be a slave.
May we never again see such barbarity
as the jihad against Beslan. amen.
at April 2, 2007 8:49 PM
Unlike the Jews who kill innocent children in palestine everyday, we Muslims do not kill children.
at April 2, 2007 9:13 PM
If there were no children in the world we wouldn’t even be hearing about the islamists. Without their prime targets, our young, they wouldn’t even be a small boil on the anus of our civilization. I said it a long time ago, what ever they accuse others of, is exactly what they are guilty of. They are not clever enough to think up these things on their own, with the islamists, the experience begets the accusations. And we all know that they have lots of experience in the killing of not only their own children but everyone else’s. Personally, given what I have learned about islamists, I believe that there is some sick sexual gratification involved.
Posted by: tgusa
at April 2, 2007 9:29 PM
abdullah
LOL!!! you just marry and f**k them!!!
at April 2, 2007 9:40 PM
@ Abdullah - "Unlike the Jews who kill innocent children in palestine everyday, we Muslims do not kill children."
How do you expalin this?
"... “When they cook a dish in the Middle East, it is traditional to put the meat on top of the rice when they serve it. They kidnapped a woman’s baby in Baghdad, a toddler, and because the mother was unable to pay the ransom, they returned her child – beheaded, roasted and served on a mound of rice.” The infant’s crime was to be an Assyrian, but this story, reported by the Barnabus Fund, went unnoticed in the West, like so many other horrific accounts of Christian persecution in Iraq.
Since the invasion of Iraq, Muslim militants have bombed 28 churches and murdered hundreds of Christians. Last October, Islamists beheaded a priest in Mosul in revenge for the Pope’s remarks about Islam at Regensburg. But never let it be said that jihadis do not have a sense of ironic humour: that same month they crucified a 14-year-old Christian boy in Basra. ..."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015893.php
at April 2, 2007 10:31 PM
Let me tell you guys a little joke about a man called Juha...A man came to Juha wanting to borrow Juha's donkey. Juha, not wanting to lend his donkey to the man, he informed that he had sold the donkey. No sooner had Juha informed the man, the donkey at the back of the house preyed.
The man was dumbfounded and exclaimed to Juha, 'Oh Juha your donkey is here'. Juha simply replied, 'YOU FOOL, YOU BELIEVE A DONKEY OVER ME?'
I say to getrealnow4: You Idiot fool, you believe a donkey over MUSLIMS???
How do you expalin this?
"... “When they cook a dish in the Middle East, it is traditional to put the meat on top of the rice when they serve it. They kidnapped a woman’s baby in Baghdad, a toddler, and because the mother was unable to pay the ransom, they returned her child – beheaded....
Muslims consider every born child to be Muslim. How can they then turn round and kill?
at April 2, 2007 11:03 PM
I don’t know, maybe the lifetime of sexual repression they are subjected to? The humiliation that the older islamists perpetrate on the younger bucks by stealing all the women for themselves? The knowledge that a donkey may be their last best hope for true love turns them into raving lunatics? No wonder one would hesitate, yes even lie to keep their donkey a secret. Donkey, islamist. Islamist, donkey, who cares?
Posted by: tgusa
at April 2, 2007 11:22 PM
Abdullah.
Given the choice between you and the donkey, I choose the donkey.
"Muslims consider every born child to be Muslim. How can they then turn round and kill?"
I belive that was my question to you regarding your previous post and your contention that Muslims do not kill children. It would appear you have no answer. However you fekt a response was required. That reponse was my question, poorly paraphrased, then repeated.
I have another donkey for you. Explain, if you can, the actions of the Muslims in Baghdad that recently used two children as decoys to get past a security then left the car and detonated it with the children still in the vehicle?
Posted by: getrealnow4
at April 2, 2007 11:31 PM
As I read this, four things come to mind.
1. PTA (in places like Australia they're called P & Cs - 'parents and citizens') - all people who are posting here who have kids in school HAVE TO ATTEND MEETINGS, raise awareness once you've been to a few and volunteered for a few things so they know you're credible - NOTE TO SELF! - DO IT!)
2. Self-defence classes and/ or tae kwon doe, judo, karate, kung fu (NOTE TO SELF) - whole family including little kids.
3. First aid classes (NOTE TO SELF - DO IT)
4. Write to one's political representative - recommend National Service like the Israelis and Singaporeans have, for all citizens on attaining age of 17 - give reason: homeland defence.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at April 3, 2007 12:02 AM
Abdullah clearly did not get the donkey joke, the way he used it in his post.
Hell, there isn't even a need to mention any more donkeys: the Beslan event is already mentioned in the article Spencer quotes.
Denial is lovely, isn't it?
Posted by: Audacity
at April 3, 2007 3:36 AM
The recent School bus hostage situation in Manilla.
A practice run for America?
at April 3, 2007 8:31 AM
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