Does he have a point, or this is yet another instance of Blame the Infidel? I don't see how the problems in Iraq are caused by anyone but the Iraqis themselves.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at April 10, 2007 6:32 AM

One aspect of this is how George W Bush's lack of curiosity had real-world implications. (In hindsight, perhaps his mediocre academic performance was as telling as the "mission accomplished" fiasco on the aircraft carrier.)

And while the administration sent Americans to suffer for Iraqi freedom, they also informed the Iraqis and others in similar straits that Islam was benevolent (as "we know," said Condoleeza, either with ignorance or diplomatic lying); and in this way Bush and company helped cloud the minds of friend and foe, with less possibility of a future leader here and there hearing a different slant from the powerful western media.

The greatest tragedy is that the West, having thrown away so much of its patrimony, really has little to offer. "Freedom" to raise children -- not merely in the occasional single-parent family, as when widows heroically raise several kids with the help of the community, but in the commonplace single-parent family -- is a recipe for poverty and emotional weakness. The lack of fortitude slowly (and then quickly?) opens us to self-indulgent egotism, impulsive and violent, and leaves a space for political primitivism (Edwards and I think Obama now refuse to debate if the "extremist" Fox channel is involved.

And the comes Islam, which, like any fascist political movements, is the friend of those who have reason to fear the impulses inside (unchecked by a loving patriarchy) and to fear the chaos outside.

Is our freedom leading to the same disaster experienced by the other, benighted victims of Mohammed, with the seeming direction of history being helped along by what Lenin called the "useful idiots"?

Evangelicals tell us that all is progressing as expected, that all will be worse -- much worse -- before it is better. Quite a situation.

Posted by: StillBreathing at April 10, 2007 6:42 AM

Allawi, every country has the government it deserves. Your country, Iraq, reflects the myriad of ethnic and tribal beliefs of allah, that better explains the behaviour in your budding Islamic nation state. Democracy gave liberty in Iraq to diverse co-religionists who murder, rob and commit mayhem on each other. Who could have anticipated that freedom would allow diverse Moslem groups to express themselves in such diverse ways: Kidnap busloads of people at a time and murder them. Kidnap and return for an incomplete ransom a beheaded baby. Thousands and thousands of incidents. Tens of thousands of murders and atrocities commited in the name of Islam! Commit suicide in a truck filled with cholrine to leverage your life as a chemical weapon of mass destruction. Who could have anticipated that when Iraq was given a precious gift of freedom, the Islamic beliefs of its inhabitants would doom it to that which it has begotten? Long live the Iraqi States of Islam!

Posted by: David England at April 10, 2007 6:50 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong JWatchers but is this the same Allawi,glib spoken & so Western & Democratic-WHO URGED BUSH & NEOCONS TO INVADE IRAQ?
No one should trust the muddled thinking of academics who view the world from lofty ivory towers. However, perhaps Mr Allawi could tell U.S
Senate where billions in aid have gone under this
'trustworthy' man's government??
And what happened to millions of happy Iraqis who would fling flowers at the troops [not bombs]
and be grateful to the West,everymore?
It was a Fairytale,my friends,and one that Mr Allawi told to naive & ignorant Infidels with great skill.And it has cost America blood,sweat &
billions for what-believing in this Fairytale when it truth it was a SUICIDE MISSION.

Posted by: Morgane at April 10, 2007 6:53 AM

"First came the "monumental ignorance" of those in Washington pushing for war in 2002 without "the faintest idea" of Iraq's realities. "

....The reality of the the Iraqi War is that it effectively sped up the worlds recognition of just how violent Islam is and of Islams true world domination effort....

and Muslims hate the truth , especially when the infidels know it...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 10, 2007 7:00 AM

Morgane:

It probably isn't. You are probably thinking of Ayad Allawi, who served as interim president or prime minister. The preening jerk in this story has the given name "Ali".

But to the point, blame for the dysfunction and bloodshed that followed Saddam's deposal rests squarely with the various factions fighting to either return the Baathists to power or replace them with either Sunni or Shia theocratic fascists. If all the occupying forces were to leave tomorrow, the violence is highly unlikely to come to an end or even taper off. More likely, it will become an even greater free-for-all as the ultra-religious factions duke it out.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at April 10, 2007 7:52 AM

"Allawi writes with authority as a member of that "new order," having served as Iraq's trade, defense and finance minister at various times since 2003. "

...Iraqi trade is non existant...

...Iraqi defence has failed...

...Iraqi finance is in shambles...

...LIke I would believe in anything this failure of a man has to say...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 10, 2007 9:25 AM

I saw the author of this screed on CNN. It's the usual whining about the "occupiers" of Iraq, and how everything is the fault of the Great Satan. You would think that even these apologists for Islam would get tired of the same 'ol, same 'ol. Guess not. The Blame Game is so much easier.

Posted by: J.S. at April 10, 2007 10:12 AM

Morgane

The Allawi here is the cousin of the former Prime Minister, according to the article. Somehow, they say with a straight face that he betrays little partisanship.

There is a red bridge that connects San Francisco to Sausalito. Can you sell it to MSNBC?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 10, 2007 12:17 PM

Ali Allawi said

More perceptive people knew instinctively that the invasion of Iraq would open up the great fissures in Iraqi society

Where some preening jerks see failure, more perceptive people see opportunity.

Posted by: special_guest at April 10, 2007 12:51 PM

Wah wah wah, I am a poor Iraqi and it like in all Islam someone else's fault.

OK though now school opens on who Ali really is.

The reason Ali is ticked off is his idea for Iraq was a uniting of politic and Islam. (You might remember this as al Qaeda which is the political union of fascism and Islam).
Patrick Cockburn who is a basic socialist communist who writes for the Independent just loves Ali who published by them "The Declaration of Iraqi Shia".

Yup nothing about Sunni or Kurd in Ali's dictate, just Shia rule in Iraq.

Ali decided the best way to control Iraq was "independent" management and construction groups. Ali wanted to create an Islamic mafia for Iraq which would spread to a mafia Caliph.

Ali writes 500 pages condemning America and yet for those who know this huckster who blames all others finds Ali WAS MINISTER OF TRADE, FINANCE and TRADE....all the areas which screwed up which he is in charge of and failed Iraq.

Ali is a Oxford liberal and his book is published by liberal Yale and his champions are fascists and communists.

Perhaps the question needs to be addressed just why is it old Ali gets booted from the Iraqi government????
Perhaps because Ali was the criminal problem trying to install a dictatorship of Shia Muslim cronies. The exact reason Iraq is having the problems it is now.

Do not buy into this huckster as his masters are the same ones who were in bed with Saddam stealing billions from Iraq and Ali was intent on the same bribery game.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 10, 2007 1:12 PM

Americans need to say just two words to all Iraqis: see ya!!!!!

Posted by: PMK at April 10, 2007 2:07 PM

Bush's decision to invade Iraq to topple the Saddam regime and eliminate its perceived Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) threat was logical, given what was known at the time.

But once we found out there is no massive WMD threat in Iraq, once Saddam was deposed, THAT was our cue to GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE. The shocking mistake Bush made was to pull the "democracy-building" argument out of his butt to attempt to cover up the fact that we had launched the war for nonexistent WMD. And then the "democracy-building" excuse--that we have to build a democracy in Iraq--became the MAIN rationale for our continued involvement there.

Trying to build a democracy in Iraq is an exercise in FUTILITY and we shouldn't be doing it.

And now, even more recently, the rationale for our being there has shifted AGAIN. Now the ONLY reason being offered are all these horrible consequences if we were to withdraw from Iraq "by a date certain"--without telling us when we can, or if we will EVER, be able to withdraw from Iraq by their lights.

We must NOT allow ourselves to commit to a permanent nonstop perpetual low-level war in Iraq. At some point we MUST bite the bullet and withdraw and take our lumps as the defeated nation. We are defeated ONLY because we set the impossible goal of "Iraqi democracy" for ourselves. This will teach us a lesson not to set goals we can't reach in a reasonable time frame.

Posted by: Steven L. at April 10, 2007 3:16 PM

Thanks JWatchers.
Do appreciate sharing of info on this site.So it's only the COUSIN,huh.Does anyone know where both Allawi's are at this moment-presumably Britain?? Also,what are their living conditions-am interested in this as huge amounts of Aid went missing during Ayad's Caretaker Government.

Posted by: Morgane at April 10, 2007 3:47 PM

"Americans need to say just two words to all Iraqis: see ya!!!!!"

...or "locked on".....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 10, 2007 4:07 PM

I think some posters are missing the point of the article. It's the very same arrogance, no, lazy arrogance, willful ignorance, that the reporter highlights, that has also cost so many of our soldiers lives.

We simply can't go up against a foe as capable and cunning as Iran, or the MB, with policy decisions that'd shame Mr Bean.

We're in our enemy's backyard FFS: we're strutting and woofing: putting soldiers on street corners with no intelligence. Billions are going straight into our enemy's pockets.

We're doing the Iranians and the MB's dirty work.

We're as out of our depth as a pinhead at Harvard.

We've become a F&^%^&G laughing stock

Posted by: ewha1 at April 10, 2007 8:39 PM

Nope...just stop using politically correct (and long discredited) methods in fighting the enemy.
That includes
1) the blatant aiding and abetting by iran of the terrorist,
2) as well as universally accepted rules of war making a mosque a legit target the second someone fires from it at our troops (90% of them are armories anyway, and everyone who's been there knows it-I hear it from our troops all the time),
3) and start cracking down on these schizokook militants masquerading as journalists, who are actually under jurisdiction of the local zone commander and subject to being shot on the spot for impeding our forces, and/or aiding and abetting the enemy as many of them have done to date, as evidence by many of the kook-fringe websites who also echo the unbelievably schizophrenic rants of absurdity that originate from the very islamofascist sources to begin with.
4) apart from nuking it, Michael Savage has it down pat in terms of using cities for fortresses by terrorists.
5) start using pigs fluids in battle applications- that alone will end this BS in 5 minutes flat, and they know it. I know...we've used it long ago, and it worked then, 100% effective.

Iran is only as capable as we allow him to be, and he knows it...as long as he has aiders and abettors in this country, he knows exactly what he can get away with...why else do you think these quislings masquerading as elected officials are overstepping their bounds in violation of the Logan Act, running interference against our own sitting President (yeah, the very same treason the kook fringe schizo brownshirts accuse their political enemies of-REAL treason), with the knowledge of the fact that their allies from within refuse to convict "no matter what" (their own words), et al...I could go on and on as I've seen it for decades.

We get what we tolerate...and civlity is quickly disappearing as an option for a viable solution.

Posted by: jcom972 at April 12, 2007 4:56 AM