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April 12, 2007

Gunmen raid Pakistani Shia village; five killed

They're-Going-To-Have-To-Overcome-That Update from Reuters, with thanks to Sr. Soph:

PARACHINAR - Suspected Sunni Muslim tribesmen in Pakistan have raided a Shia Muslim village near the Afghan border, killing five people, in the lastest clash in a week of violence that has killed about 40 people.

Sectarian violence has bedevilled Pakistan since the 1980s but the latest clashes have erupted in tribal lands on the Afghan border where security forces are already battling Al Qaeda and Taleban-linked militants and hunting for their leaders.

The army shelled positions of the rival factions late on Wednesday in an effort to quell fighting after gunmen raided Chardiwar village in the Kurram tribal region, a government official said....

Another government official, who declined to be identified, said five villagers were killed in Chardiwar, six wounded and several houses burnt.

The clashes erupted late last week after an exchange of insults during a religious procession in Parachinar, the region’s main town. A curfew was imposed last Friday but has failed to stop the violence.

Posted by Robert at April 12, 2007 7:24 AM
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....A Muslims worst enemy is another Muslim....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:52 AM

exsgtbrown

"....A Muslims worst enemy is another Muslim...."

Do you even have a point or do you just like to copy and paste this in each article you read? If you do have a point please enlighten us with it.

Posted by: 2Pac [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:09 AM

Maybe the point is, that the Red Cross recently stated that Iraq is becoming a humanitarian nightmare, with bodies littering the streets and families of the dead too afraid to go to morgues to identify their relatives, for fear of ending up dead themselves.

Maybe the point is, that the Americans and their allies get blamed for the mess in Iraq when it is so obvious that muslims are their own worst enemies, killing each other off wholesale.

It's not the good guys who are leaving the streets littered with bodies, is it ?

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:21 AM

...Who, in all the world is killing the Muslims at an ever increasing rate?....other Muslims.....

....and for what reason?.....apparently just to see blood flowing...

....It is not the Jews, the Americans, the Hindus, the Buddists, the Hari Krishnas, the Catholics, the Protestants, The Seventh Day Aventists, The British, The French, The Japanese, The Spaniards, or any other Non Muslim entity that seeks to kill Muslims.....only Muslims....

...therefore, it is true..."....A Muslims worst enemy is another Muslim...."

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:21 AM

who will be blamed for this.. where is naseems and abdullah? is the Joos again.. those mighty Jews!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:53 AM

Pakistan is saturated with Muslims. And they have no one else to kill. But used as they are to killing some one or the other, they have to practise the axe on their own kind.

Reminds me of lakes full of alligators or crocodiles. They just have to keep grabbing something and eating it. If there is nothing left to eat, they devour amongst themselves.

That way I agree that Islam's worst enemy is Islam itself.

Posted by: proud-hindu [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:33 AM

Sorry, 2Pac, but I have no sympathy whatsoever for the parents of the Palestinian children "murdered" in Gaza, when every day Palestinian television carries cartoons, videos and children's shows exhorting kids to martyr themselves for allah.

I don't believe muslims have any regard for their children. Look at the cowards who blew up the kids in the back seat of their homicide car bomb recently. What's a couple of kids, anyway ? Lots more where those came from.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:37 AM

"Christians/Catholics worst enemy was another Christain/Catholic” wouldn’t you agree."


...nope....no one attacked in WWII under the presumption of religious authority....

....Genocide (Japan was slaughtering the Koreans and South Asians) (Germany was slaughtering the Jews and all others it considered worthless),a world power land grab attempt (japan was taking over the entire Pacific arena and much of Southeast Asia) (Germany was taking over all of Europe and Russia), and such things were threatening the rest of the rest of the world...

the Religion of the Combatantants was Irrevelant and had nothing to do with WWII...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:41 AM

"That way I agree that Islam's worst enemy is Islam itself.

Posted by: proud-hindu"


...Thank you, you have been there and seen the truth...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:44 AM

But 145 children were murdered in Gaza by Israel last year; I think the parents of those children will disagree with your general analysis.

Posted by 2pac

Speaking of providing proof, this statement came from what source?

Just how did the State of Israel MURDER these children? Case by case please, no generalities or quotes from the obviously biased Palestinian sources.

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:02 AM

"it’s a geopolitical issue driven by greed for oil between Sunnis, Shias, Kurds, and us the West."

It's not a geopolitical issue between the Shia and the Sunni's. They just hate each other, and the Shiites are getting revenge for the abuse they endured under Sadaam. And as for the West, of course it's about oil. The entire global economy would come to a grinding halt without oil.

It has nothing to do with greed, it has to do with keeping the economy going until we can find some alternatives for oil. Then we can just let them kill each other in their sand box without getting involved.

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:06 AM

exsgtbrown:

As far as Jews being slaughtered your delusional; Nazi anti-Semitism was rooted in religious anti-Semitism. Are you seriously trying to argue that Jihadists don’t have a political agenda like the Nazi’s? Nazi's were gasing Christians civlins it was Jews. Serbs were killing Muslims. Just like Arabs are killing in Darfur. I don't see a difference.

Posted by: 2Pac [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:19 AM


How unfortunate. I believe the shiites have to repent and come back to the way of the prophet. And that means, no calling on Ali or Hussain or the prophet's family as gods besides Allah, No self-mutilations, No saying the Quran has been fabricated, No having anal sex, No more believing in badaa(God changing his mind like wind), No more insulting the prophet's companions or his wife Aisha (ever heard of 'tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are?)

Then Sunnis will accept you fully into the fold of Al-Islam.

Posted by: Abdullah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:20 AM


Oh yea and No more Taqiyaa on fellow Muslims and NO MORE MUTAAS (Temporary Marriages) - women are not objects for temporary use

Posted by: Abdullah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:23 AM

Oh yea and No more Taqiyaa on fellow Muslims and NO MORE MUTAAS (Temporary Marriages) - women are not objects for temporary use
Posted by: Abdullah

you dont understand Abdullah, its the koran,islam that causes these people to have temporary marriages, islam does not allow women and men to talk among each other like in the west, islam tells women to cover themselves up, because muslim men are weak and act like dogs with a bitch in season.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:39 AM

NO MORE MUTAAS (Temporary Marriages)
The jihadist has been smoking something again. Those onjects of his worship and adoration, the arabs, sunni arabs, do exactly the same thing, just calling it a different thing, a mis'yar marriage.

Quite the fashion in the magic kingdom, don't you know.

Posted by: Jesus Worshipping Zionist [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:04 AM

"As far as Jews being slaughtered your delusional"

as alledged by 2pac...."

The roots of Holocaust denial can be found in the bureaucratic language of Nazi policy itself, which sought to camouflage the genocidal intent of what the Nazis called the "Final Solution to the Jewish Question," even as these directives were being carried out. After the war, former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers dismissed the overwhelming proof of the Holocaust established at the Nuremberg war crimes trials; similarly, an obscure group of post-War French Trotskyists and anarchists led by Paul Rassinier (since deceased), seeking to advance their own political agenda, denounced evidence of the genocide as "Stalinist atrocity propaganda."

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:27 AM

Abdullah:

And what if the Shiites don't repent? What then? Can you tolerate them and their diverse beliefs? If not, are you going to condemn all violence against them??

And what is the sunni hostility about anal sex all about?? Don't sunnis engage in that too??
Seems to me that you all like that with the little boys, yes?

Or do you only demand that from your women?

Posted by: texan [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:31 AM

2pac I'm still waiting for your answer. Or are you not going to acknowledge me because I am a woman and therefore beneath you?
Or is it because you are just spouting rhetoric that has no basis in facts?

Aunt Bea

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:40 AM

Suspected
For some reason the news services have a love affair with this word lately.
35 Suspected Taliban Killed in Afghanistan by coalition forces. Who else would be fighting them?
The guys in this story are suspected of being;
Sunni
Muslims
Tribesmen

Too bad for those young men at Duke last year that the love affair started after it could have saved their reputations and futures.

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:51 AM

More often I am having a hard time getting worked up, or sympathtic, to this type of thing. When islamics/islam breed sociopathic murderers - what do they expect? When there is no good infidel to kill, then move on to the next best thing - another muslim of a different sect, or a woman or two.

Posted by: R_not [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 12:06 PM

Nice to read Abdullah's dictates in how people are saved.

Does this mean that Abraham is not in paradise then as he was not a Sunni as this stupidity of Muhammed bloodlines was not even born yet.

As Abraham IS with God, like all Israelites are with God, then it does not matter Shia or Sunni. What matters is LOVE of others in caring for them. That is what God requires.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 12:33 PM

"Suspected
For some reason the news services have a love affair with this word lately."


yep, news services like words like;

suspected
asians
unidentified
restive state
youths
foreign immigrants
persons of unknown identity
illegal immigrants
activists
students
foreign nationals
angry residents

etc....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 12:34 PM

Abdullah

Why not go there, join Sipah e Sahaba, and join the party - in both senses of the word.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 12:56 PM

"Are you seriously trying to argue that Jihadists don’t have a political agenda like the Nazi’s?"

....In WWII it was the Muslims who heavily influenced Hitler...he was impressed by their "kill the Jews" zeal...He created special Muslim Nazi units who turned out to be more ruthless than the SS..

...In return , The Muslims, led by the Grand Mufti of Jeruselam, helped the Nazis design the gas ovens and concentration camps..

The Nazis and the Muslims share a common hate for Jews and a common thirst for land that belongs to other...

...other than that they do not share much else in common...

...The Jihadists have a bigger army than the Nazis had, and the Jihadists have troops in more countries than the Nazis had...and The Muslims are killing more people than the Nazis did..

....the Nazis would be impressed....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 1:31 PM

Abdullah wrote:
"NO MORE MUTAAS (Temporary Marriages) - women are not objects for temporary use"

All very nice and PC, but the problem is that you believe that women are objects for permanent use.

Posted by: schmegel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 1:57 PM

hey Abdullah, you cant be honest and answer questions posed to you. earlier you claimed to be in GB, and have some "white" in you, your words, how can someone educated in the West, and live in GB think that some crazy phedophile who spoke to some demon,
in some dark cave, and after he spoke with this demon, wanted to commit suicide, and you believe his words, written by some one else, as muhammud was so uneducated, could not read or write,so much for an enlightlened human.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 3:34 PM

"have some "white" in you,"


...and apparently hates every bit of it.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 3:39 PM


Some white in me? So what? Just be proud of whatever colour you are.

Yes I can tell you Abraham is in paradise playing with young children who died before the age of 'coming' by Allah's grace and bounty. You ask, was Abraham a sunni? The answer is his life was 'an example' 'sunna' in itself...Did Allah not say, "verily in Ibrahim, you have an excellent example' ??? That example is purity in his worship of the ONE irresistable God above the seventh sky.

Posted by: Abdullah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:16 PM

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