Evidently the Muslims discovered "honey buns" were being served...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 12, 2007 8:02 AM

or was it the "hot cross buns"......

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 12, 2007 8:04 AM

Grim Milestone Alert.

Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at April 12, 2007 8:47 AM

And that is not at all surprising, since the Americans have done nothing to screen the people they're working with, in Iraq or anywhere else, for such sympathies.

cair is probably dictating the hiring and security policies. What can we expect?

More needless killings, that's what.

Look on the bright side, at least we are PC, no?

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 8:49 AM

Blast rocks Iraqi parliament

Sharia law must dominate, and the right sect must dominate, and it will go on and on because fanatics must kill anyone who thinks differently from them. At this point in history Islam is incompatible with a pluralistic society. In pluralistic societies, there are some who abuse freedom and "the other" by the abandonment of reason, in Islam there are some who abuse God and "the other" by the abandonment of logic-reason. Neither will be ruled by reason and experience as the basis of law and a civil society.

Freedom is the unlimited right to reason and to express thoughts and opinions based upon reason and to behave according to reason. The first principle of freedom is its limitation by the use of reason/experience and the respect for the rights of others, including freedom of conscience. That is the foundation of a free society. At this point in history Islam is incompatible with a pluralistic society, incompatible with a free society. That's tragic reality.

Posted by: Frank at April 12, 2007 9:12 AM

Consider this article:

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1266

Soon after they were fitted on US military vehicles and went into successful use, al Qaeda came up with a device capable of jamming and disarming both US electronic measures by radio signals. The Islamist terrorists thus escalated their challenge to the US military by introducing electronic warfare.

Obviously, the Dod hired some of these people to help design these devices. After all, American engineers are just too damned stupid to figure anything out and they're too expensive.

Their success has boosted the US and British death toll in Iraq. Of the 50 US and UK soldiers who died in Iraq in the first 9 days of April, 30 were killed by IEDs. Al Qaeda’s mystery device is believed by military experts to account for the soaring rate of effective roadside bomb hits on American vehicles, even those fitted with the new counter-measures.

Al Qaeda's mystery device? There is no mystery device -- just treason that's all.

Oh yes, I must be smoking those funny cigarettes again, right? Sorry, I don't period. Perhaps these people do however.

Consider this one:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55129

Judicial Watch contends the federal government is aware of the Islamic groups "and the danger they pose to our national security. The question is: Why are they still in operation?"

Ask cair! The article adds:

Muslim charity groups posing as "moderates" continue to support terrorist activities, according to a report by the government watchdog Judicial Watch.

The operative word here is "continue," as in never having stopped in the first place.

The report – titled " Muslim Front Organizations: Moderate Non-Profits or Elaborate Deceptions?" – says that while the U.S. government "finally has taken action against some of the groups identified by Judicial Watch, others are still functioning."

It seems to tie in fairly well with what is going on in the Debka article about the so-called "mystery devices" used by AQ to murder our troops.

The biggest threat to our country are the traitors that are part of our government infrastructure.

Their wrong headed opinions about being PC and "sensitive" carry the force of law, and in reality trump the common sense of the vast majority of Americans.

As a result, we are dying needlessly not only in Iraq (which could have been squashed four years ago if we would have let our military do their job!); but we are also dying as a free nation.

Thanks to the traitors that we insist on electing to public office, and their too numerous to count underling/change-agents, my conjecture is that we will be under islamic rule in approximately 20 years.

Will we fight back? Individually, we might but only to be taken down by our local law enforcemnt agencies if we take physical action; and taken down by our courts, should we elect to pursue intellectual action.

Kiss your "freedom" a fond farewell -- I assure you, it will be sorely missed!

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 9:17 AM

"And that is not at all surprising, since the Americans have done nothing to screen the people they're working with, in Iraq or anywhere else, for such sympathies."
-- from Robert's comment on the article above

They can't. They have no idea how to screen people, well-versed in the art of deception. They have no how to screen people whose innermost thoughts, whose desires, whose loyalties, are a mystery to those Innocents Abroad.

But they are also Innocents at home. How can those in the I.N.S., how can members of Congress, how can members of the Executive Branch (including a government that has taken to giving permission for en-masse emigration to Muslims, ranging from Meskhetian Turks out of Russia -- could they not have gone to Turkey? -- to a much more significant and mad policy of offering to take in 7,000 "Palestinian" Arabs, favored by Saddam Hussein, now under pressure in Iraq? Is there no consideration of the views, for example, of that last group, down to the last man and woman, and of what their admission will mean for American security? Would Condoleeza Rice blithely admit into this country a group of neo-Nazis, or, to put the matter more bluntly, fanatical racists who would make the followers of Eugene Terre Blanche in South Africa blush, and whose fondest hope was to enslave the non-whites of this world, a subjugation which, involves necessarily the degradation, humiliation, and physical insecurity of those enslaved, and also of non-Muslims in the ideal Muslim state, a state unsubject to outside Infidel pressure or modification.

And imagine, further, that 7,000 or 10,000 of these fanatical racists, harboring their ideology, regaded their en-masse admission to the United States as not only providing them refuge, but sooner or later, would naturally allow them a splendid way to spread their program in America?

Admission of Muslims to the United States or to any Infidel nation-state is premised on the notion that "they must, most of them" be "just like us" or "that they can become like us" in the case of the United States. The first is the result of simple ignorance, of unfamiliarity with history, of refusing to believe that ideologies matter.

Why should it be so hard for Americans to recognize this ideology?

One might have said that America is different. One might conclude, with the late Professor Louis Hartz, that the absence of feudalism and its historical aftereffects allowed for a blessedly non-ideological history in the United States, an absence of class warfare. It might be argued that Americans, not being given any training in philosophical or abstract thought, and tending to reject it, fail to recognize the ideologies of others, and don't quite take anything except "religion" as a belief-system seriously, and don't know how to regard Islam except as a "religion" just like any other, rather than as a "religion" that in its politics and geopolitics is quite unlike any other.

But then what explains the equallly naive view in Europe that its Muslims can somehow be "integrated" -- a view becoming less popular, more self-evidently absurd, all the time? Perhaps in Europe it is merely a case of not wanting to believe the size and depth of the wound that Eurpoe has quite unnecessarily inflicted on itself over the past several decades, and instead of sober home truths being spoken by those in the government whose duty it is to instruct and protect, we have an entire Continent's ruling class merely Whistling in the Dark.

In any case, the Americans cannot possibly distinguish Sunni from Shi'a, Kurd from Arab, or True Believer who will kill them now, no matter what, from the Less True Believer who may wish them ill but will allow others to do the killing, to those who are True Believers but also Pragmatic, and who want to get out of those rich and powerful Americans every last dollar, every bit of military equipment, they can, and so will play along, just a bit, for now, and also carefully direct the Americans to focus, if possible, in hitting the enemy -- for Sunnis the Shi'a militia, for Shi'a the Sunnis, whether or not they are in Al Qaeda. And the Americans have indeed been making mistake after mistake, not limited to Bremer who was first described at JW, long ago, as doing his imitation of a big-hearted but clueless "Jack Armstrong, All-American Boy."

The Americans in Iraq are hopelessly dependent on Iraqis for information about Iraq. They never know whom to trust. They never know who might turn on them, as they embed themselves in those small, spread-out units, throughout Baghdad. They never know who is their friend today, smiling and assuring them that yes, you are my friend, you mean more to me than my mother, amriki, more to me than my father and, by the way, my brother has a rug store, and because I love you so much, he loves you too, and before you go I suggest you visit and get a fantastic bargain, just for you.

Posted by: Hugh at April 12, 2007 9:17 AM

"Why should it be so hard for Americans to recognize this ideology"?-Hugh

"They can't. They have no idea how to screen people, well-versed in the art of deception".-Hugh

The mandate to Deception is going to undo Islam. The growing awareness of this among non-Muslims is not good news for Muslims.

"The cat is out of the bag".-Hugh

Posted by: Frank at April 12, 2007 9:34 AM

Were there not Amreeki soldiers around the area? Hmmm! Still good cause to send traitors packing for hell.

I would have asked you people to pray for the brother who carried out the matyrdom operation but unfortunately your calls to God are in vain because you dont follow God's teachings even in your scriptures. Will Naseem pray for the blessed operation?

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 10:05 AM

OT:

PC ALERT: I HOPE SOME JIHAD WATCHERS OR DHIMMI WATCHERS WILL GO TO LSUREVEILLE.COM AND COMMENT ON THE FLAGRANTLY PC AND TOTALLY IGNORANT COLUMN ABOUT "LOVE AND TOLERANCE IN ISLAM." CLICK ON "OPINION" TO FIND IT.

Posted by: darcy at April 12, 2007 10:06 AM

Why should it be so hard for Americans to recognize this ideology?

This reminds me of someone who was once married to an abusive, alcoholic husband, that put the lady into a hospital.

She was in a coma for three weeks and when she finally came back to consciousness, said through clenched teeth (because her fracture jaw needed to be wired closed): "he loves me! he needs me! I can change him!"

Despite her fondest and dearest ambitions, the husband was never "changed" but actually grew worse.

We are like that lady, we recognize the ideology and the problem alright; we simply choose to ignore reality because it doesn't fit our high-minded notions of what we think reality ought to be.

I suspect this refusal to acknowlege reality suggests a certain arrogance as well, and like that lady, this character flaw is going to do us untold damage in the future.

So sound advice -- drop the abusive relationship! It isn't worth preserving anyway!

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 10:09 AM

I would have asked you people to pray for the brother who carried out the matyrdom operation but unfortunately your calls to God are in vain because you dont follow God's teachings even in your scriptures.

Interesting. So, you have the mind to discren the judgements of your "god" when you say that someone else's "prayers are in vain."

That abullah, places you above your god since you have, by your own words, determined how your god ought and ought not judge.

Your brother will be judged alright, I'd hate to be in his boots

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 10:15 AM

"Last Throes" of the "dead-enders"

Posted by: BunrattyBill at April 12, 2007 10:28 AM

No I am not putting myself above God, I seek refuge in God from doing so. I am merely using what God taught us about Himself to Judge. He (God) gave manking the balance to Judge what displeases Him and what pleases him. We do not attribute to God except what he attributes to Himself.

You guys love using logic so here is one. God created you out of a drop of sperm, He then cherised you and gave you full muturity plus free will, He then told you, 'Take no gods besides me, so worship me exclusively'....But you turned out to be an ungrateful pig or ape, you killed His messengers and disobeyed them, you do the very opposite of what He told you, you took up gods besides Him, you commit adultery, etc AND YOU EXPECT HIM TO LISTEN TO YOUR CALLS??? How misguided!!! Hell is your final abode...

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 10:32 AM

Why does anyone respond to Abdullard? He just craves the attention. Dont give it to him.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 12, 2007 10:34 AM

it is very easy for terroists to get into the greenzone, and act like a coward and become a murdering suicide bomber killer. the impact is more fierce, but actuality its the terrorists who are losing out.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 12, 2007 10:41 AM

Remember how Abdullah was blathering on about how much he would "love" anyone who converted to Islam?

His loving response to the cruel murder of his fellow muslims is tremendously instructive.

Whenever someone gets PC with me about Islam, I just point them in the direction of his posts.

Keep it up, Abdullah! You're a stellar representative of your religion and culture!

Posted by: treehugger at April 12, 2007 10:46 AM

Tell us how you really feel, Abdullah. Quit holding it in.

Posted by: Beagle at April 12, 2007 10:52 AM

As long as Abdullah is trolling here and elsewhere he's not getting up to any serious mischief.

Posted by: turn at April 12, 2007 10:55 AM

Got an urge got a surge
And its out of control
Got an urge I wanna purge
cause Im losing control
Uncontrollable urge
I wanna tell you all about it
Uncontrollable urge
Makes me scream and shout it
Its got style its got class
So strong I cant let it pass
I gotta tell you all about it
I gotta scream and shout it
And I say yeah
____________________

I am cowboy kim
Cowboy kim I am
I am a lucky cowboy
Let me tell you why
Im a man with a mission
A boy with a gun
I got a picture in my pocket of the lucky one
Ill announce the winner
On the radio
With my microphone
I do a super show
I wear a cowboy hat
It is my business hat
Im on till 1:00 a.m.
I must tell you that
Im a man with a mission
A boy with a gun
I got a picture in my pocket of the lucky one
Who doesnt know Im a big mess
I mean a really big mess
A big big mess he was all mixed up and a
Big mess he was a
Big mess he was a
He was really mixed up
Cowboy kim I am
Mr. reality
The most important thing
I put away my toys
With my microphone
I do a super show
Ill announce the winner
On the radio

Uncontrollable Urge & Big Mess by Devo & GWB

Posted by: MontyRockIV at April 12, 2007 11:04 AM

No I am not putting myself above God, I seek refuge in God from doing so. I am merely using what God taught us about Himself to Judge. He (God) gave manking the balance to Judge what displeases Him and what pleases him. We do not attribute to God except what he attributes to Himself.

You guys love using logic so here is one.

A gift from your god no doubt.

God created you out of a drop of sperm, He then cherised you and gave you full muturity plus free will, He then told you, 'Take no gods besides me, so worship me exclusively'....

Say, what happened to the free will part? A bit circular isn’t it? What if by my own free will, I want to worship myself as “god?” I’m not “free” to do it?

But you turned out to be an ungrateful pig or ape, you killed His messengers and disobeyed them, you do the very opposite of what He told you, you took up gods besides Him, you commit adultery, etc AND YOU EXPECT HIM TO LISTEN TO YOUR CALLS???..

So, if I do exercise my free will which you believe is given to me by your god, then that makes me an ungrateful pig or ape?
Actually, I don’t petition your god for anything, nor shall I do so. Your god isn’t worthy of such a supplication.

How misguided!!! Hell is your final abode.

So, that is your divine adjudication? Well, I have one of my own abdulla.

Why does anyone respond to Abdullard? He just craves the attention. Dont give it to him

Come now, an occasional joust makes things interesting. After all, we all crave a little attention. Why else would any of us post on a blog site?

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 11:11 AM

"Were there not Amreeki soldiers around the area? Hmmm! Still good cause to send traitors packing for hell".-A Nut

Either you are a non-Muslim pretending to be a Muslim or you are a real Muslim. In any case, you are a wacko.

-------------------------------

Final thought re deception: The mandates to deception in Islam must produce a society of mistrust of other Muslims. This cripples Arabs and other Muslims. Mistrust makes it practically impossible to delegate authority to subordinates. For example, in Israel, and many other secular democratic societies, trust and the delegation of authority in government, military matters and other matters is crucial to the efficiency of the whole society.

Posted by: Frank at April 12, 2007 11:15 AM

Assalamau Laikum brother Abdullah...

You ask "Will Naseem pray for the blessed operation?"

Eh....no...I am extremely confused as to what exactly makes this a "blessed" operation?

A muslim was killed who supports Islam and was trying to get Islamic law to run smoothly in Iraq. Simply sitting in with the Amerike does not make him a kafur....after all ...by your own admission ...are you not surrounded by the British in London....does that make you a kafur?
...well no ofcourse not.

Also by the sounds of it ...he was an intellegent muslim...that makes this even harder to understand this act.

To my simple muslima mind....he was doing a lot more than you to help the cause of peace and spread of Sharia....but perhaps you can explain better...I'll be interested to know your stance.

Abdullah, let me ask you a few questions if I may?

1) ....do you belive that this "martyr brotha" is now in paradise with 72 virgins?.

2) Do he believe that now Allah has given him the best health ever...and the strength and virility of 10 men which he will need to "keep going" in the service of the 72 so that they are not disappointed.

3) Can he have childerns in heaven Abdullah?

I would love to be educated in this matter...please let me know.

Posted by: Naseem at April 12, 2007 11:58 AM

...you can tell abby is associated with the "Peaceful Religion of Islam"....his writing flow with tranquility and peace....he is doing his best to show Islamic tolerance and cannot understand why no one agrees with him...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 12, 2007 12:03 PM

You guys love using logic so here is one

No, absolutely nothing which followed adhered to any rules of logic that I could discern.

Posted by: Jesus Worshipping Zionist at April 12, 2007 12:09 PM

Naz,

"Eh....no...I am extremely confused as to what exactly makes this a "blessed" operation? "

.....the answer is .... Muslim violence....the attack on unarmed Muslims...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 12, 2007 12:12 PM

Amazing Mr. Spencer, you have a minature Iraq right here with Abdullah and Naseem not able to get along.

To answer the Iraq situation though, the problem is not Iraq or American "traitors".

I put forth the questions:

How was it Iran without satellites was able to pinpoint and mark British forces moving in the Gulf?

How is it that IED's being jammed immediately have counter measures being deployed?

How is it advanced SAM missiles just happen to show up in Iraq?

How is it uniforms, US security documents and infiltration just happens to show up in Iraq?

Perhaps the answer for the thoughtful is in Russian generals laying out the entire American strike plan against Iran.....

People need to stop looking at Iraq and Muslims as some kind of intellectual enigma out performing the United States. Part of the problem in Iraq is exactly this:

The US shares enormous amounts of technical information as courtesy and as REQUIRED BY THE UNITED NATIONS about battle movements, so a nuclear exchange does not happen.

Examples of this are in history. MacArthur in Korea was having a devil of a time with the UN leaking battle plans to the communists. MacArthur quit sharing information and immediately started winning.
President Bush called President Putin hours before the Iraq liberation and told him to get his people out of there.

This is how a great deal of these measures and attacks are being implemented, because Russia and China are sharing tons of information.....just like Pakistani intel feeds information to their al Qaeda links.

The GRU, FSB, PLA, French CIA, Saudi and Jordanian intel are all over Iraq and they are feeding information to their contacts.
The person who planted this bomb in the Parliment was a proxy agent of Russia intended so the blame would fall on Iran, as it attacked Sunni elements to stir them up.

Bombs just do not happen nor do getting them in through security. This was not a Muslim operation in scope, but only in context of the intended blame.

So Abdullah can rant in his slurs in showing what an ignorant he is and Naseem can ask thoughtful questions, because it is exactly how Muslims are being played by the big boys intending to incinerate the region.
The Muslim will be used to gain the objective of domination of the region by the communist cartel and then the Muslims will be exterminated as that is what communists always do upon winning.

If Islam would figure it out that America is what is keeping them alive and safe and that the real problem is the Eurasian masters all of this would stop and they could focus on their real problems in corrupt manipulators and the Bolsheviks and Chicom bosses feeding this.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 12, 2007 12:24 PM

"Amreeki?"

Abdullah, You don't have an original thought in your head do you? Naseem has been miss-spelling America for yonks! How dare you steal our pet Amhadi's signature tune. This from someone who claims to be a British medical student- shame on you!!!!!

Posted by: rookie at April 12, 2007 12:26 PM

Rookie, I don't know how anyone could call Naseem our pet. All of these mooselim pukes posting here grate on my nerves with their idiotic brainwashed thoughts.

Posted by: Bonniea at April 12, 2007 1:29 PM

'Take no gods besides me, so worship me exclusively'....But you turned out to be an ungrateful pig or ape, you killed His messengers and disobeyed them, you do the very opposite of what He told you, you took up gods besides Him, you commit adultery, etc AND YOU EXPECT HIM TO LISTEN TO YOUR CALLS??? How misguided!!! Hell is your final abode...

Abdullah,
Two questions:

1. I thought we all worshipped THE SAME god. Isn't that what Muslims tell us all the time - that we all worship the God of Abraham?

2. What give YOU or anyone else the right to decide what my relationship with god is or how I should pursue it?

As for adultery - how do you accuse anyone of adultery when your religion allows men to take up to four wives and who knows how many concubines?

Keep posting. You're definitely good for a laugh.

Posted by: PMK at April 12, 2007 1:33 PM

Bonniea,

I stand chastised and contrite, I forgot to add
" With a great big lump of sarcasm" I share your sentiments exactly, but I am new to commenting and I seem to forget that people can't see my face as I type. ( Hence the name- Rookie)
I will get better I promise you. Abdullah thinks that I am a woman, but I am a rather large Scot who lives closer to him than he would find comfortable. I tend to look and learn, for the moment, but Abdullah is so obnoxious I cant help from winding him up.I have learned so much in so short a time here and at Dhimmi watch and really admire the eloquence of some of the posters here.
Hope we can be - if not friends- then at least allies.

Posted by: rookie at April 12, 2007 3:02 PM

Where are all the "inside job!" conspiracy theorists on this one?
Oh yeah, forgot-too busy writing for al-jazeera.

Posted by: jcom972 at April 12, 2007 3:45 PM

Neither Iraqis nor the US troops there can protect the most obvious target of the insurgents. How can we "win the peace" if we can't protect even one obvious target?

Our troops and resources are focused and wasted in the wrong place; they should be protecting the U.S. and her allies, not Islamist-dominated states like Iraq and Iran. With approx. a 10:1 coalition force advantage, including contractors, we have only achieved a violent equilibrium, and no end is in sight. That's what a volunteer force, instead of conscription, buys us.

We should not care if Iraqis, Iranians, and others want to or are willing to live under Islamist domination. Eventually, like the Ottoman Empire, Nazi Germany, and the USSR, modern Islamist totalitarianism will eventually collapse from too much ambition, over-extension, and suppression of individual rights.

Trade with them, protect against them, take no account of them, stand up to them, and/or fight them until they either collapse or self-modulate.

But please, let's do so where we can be effective.

Posted by: Dave at April 12, 2007 4:00 PM

To the poster above:

Please take a look, if you have just started visiting, both at the Articles which you can find preserved in the bar at the top. You might also use the Search engine to look up something ("Nigeria" or "Taqiyya" or "Thailand" or "jizyah" or a thousand other subjects), or just scroll randomly through the Archives, by putting in different dates, then seeing what comes up. Very little -- almost none of it -- dates.

Posted by: Hugh at April 12, 2007 4:05 PM

With approx. a 10:1 coalition force advantage, including contractors, we have only achieved a violent equilibrium, and no end is in sight. That's what a volunteer force, instead of conscription, buys us.

Posted by: Dave at April 12, 2007 04:00 PM

I would submit that it has very little to do with the quality of our "volunteer" force, but everything to do with the PC rules of engagement they are forced to operate under. If our politicians would stay the hell out of it and let them fight a war, out troops would have had this settled with no doubt in anyones mind who the victor was a long time ago. And if the PC liberal, multiculti media would get smart and shut up, that would be a plus also. Instead, we are treated to watching Diane Sawyer learn how to tie a turban onto her air head.

Posted by: fedupinamerica at April 12, 2007 5:16 PM

Dear Naseem, the answer to your questions is I don't know who is going to Jannah and who is going to Jahanama. I cannot say as this is hidden knowledge with Allah. We are told by Allah that the inheritors of paradise are those who have faith and work rightous deeds. Even after this, you will need the mercy of Allah to be admitted because we are so imperfect.

Matyrs who fight who kill and are killed to make Allah's word supreme are guaranteed what no eye has seen and no mind ever imagined. Their souls will fly under the throne of Allah, the highest level of paradise.

As for individuals, I cannot say so and so will go to paradise as only Allah knows. But we hope for this person to attain paradise.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 6:01 PM

Someone above challenges me not to call americans amreekis because this is copy written by Naseem. Does Naseem have ownership rights to the arabic language? Amreeki is the arabic transliteration for american.

As for living in Britain, I would have never come to this Kuffar country If I wasn't born in it.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 6:05 PM

Matyrs who fight who kill and are killed to make Allah's word supreme are guaranteed what no eye has seen and no mind ever imagined. Their souls will fly under the throne of Allah, the highest level of paradise.

Abdullah, is that what you would like to do also?

Do you aspire to be a matyr who fights, kills, and is killed to "make Allah's word supreme" so that you, Abdullah, can be "guaranteed what no eye has seen and no mind ever imagined;" so that your "...soul will fly under the throne of Allah, the highest level of paradise?"

Is that what you desire most to do? Or are you afraid, Abdulla?

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 6:44 PM

As the jihadists work their way closer, first firing mortars into the Green Zone, now walking into the Green Zone wearing bomb vests, it only proves how desperate they are becoming. The stronger they hit in the heart of the occupation, and the more top Iraqi politicians under our protection they kill, the more they prove our strategy is working. Their desperation is reaching a fevered pitch. Victory will soon be ours!

I love the smell of TATP in the morning, it's the smell of .... victory.

Posted by: special_guest at April 12, 2007 7:10 PM

Assalamau LAikum Witness,

I think it is unfair of you to goad brother Abdullah in this manner...he was simply answering a question to the best of his ability....and I hope Abdullah's ignores your challenge....show patience Abdullah!

A more relevent question for me (as a muslima) is this . Abdullah ..as you rightly point out Allah's mercy is shown on Select Martyrs who are guaranteed what no eye has seen and no mind ever imagined;"

But if we don't know and have never seen or heard from anyone in Jannah enjoying ...how do we know that this is even true?

Forgive me Abdullah...I do not blaspheme...but it's life you are giving up here....you have simply GOT to know that this is going to be worth it....so it means one taking the ultimate leap of faith.

But what happens if your soul after being killed finds ...well nothing...and you feel cheated for eternity....dearest brother...can we have faith in Allah's mercy ....if in the slightest doubt?

Is your faith absolute in this regard brother? I look at suras in the light of benefitting humankind....and it overcomes jihadic tendencies...does this mean no Jannah for me?....I often worry about displeasing Allah SWT...but I am convinced that dawa is the true way forward.

Posted by: Naseem at April 12, 2007 7:27 PM

The stronger they hit in the heart of the occupation, and the more top Iraqi politicians under our protection they kill, the more they prove our strategy is working. Their desperation is reaching a fevered pitch. Victory will soon be ours!

That's what Hitler muttered to Eva Braun in their last days in the bunker.

I believe in victory; and the victory I am referring to should have happened years ago. Things were going fine until one day, we got to Fallujah and just as we were about to break the enemy's back, we were stopped dead in our tracks!

Not by the enemy, but by our own high command!

We win wars by destroying the enemy; not by letting the enemy pick off individual troops at their choosing.

Problem is, those in the high command don't believe in destroying the enemy -- heck, they can't even identify the enemy, or at least stubbornly refuse to.

Until that mindset changes, forget about victory! The ONLY thing we'll have is a dismal defeat!

OUR TROOPS DESERVE BETTER FROM OUR COMMANDERS!

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 7:40 PM

Darling Nasseem, Abdulla made the statements and is a big boy.

He himself believes that being a myrtr is a high calling does he not?

I am merely asking for clarification on his position.

How is that "goading" as you put it? If he is planning to join his esteemed brothers in paradise, don't you think it would nice to know about also?

Perhaps others would like to wish him the best on his sojourn? I wouldn't of course.

Am I not allowed to ask questions of one so certain of godly things such as myarterdom and so on?

Posted by: witness at April 12, 2007 7:52 PM

In a Kabuki-like show, Naseem said to Abdullah

Forgive me Abdullah...I do not blaspheme...but it's life you are giving up here....you have simply GOT to know that this is going to be worth it....so it means one taking the ultimate leap of faith.

Naseem, why are you disagreeing with Abdullah? He wrote clearly, and I'm sure he is able to back up his views with quotations from the Qur'an and from incidents in Muhammad's life. Why do you disrespect him so? Imagine his humiliation, as a woman disputes his interpretation of the word of Allah before a group of infidels. And she's an Ahmadi, not even a real Muslima. His outrage must know no limits. He may be so enraged that he forgets all about his rage for us infidels. Please be careful.

Posted by: special_guest at April 12, 2007 9:15 PM

Naseem wrote: '.I often worry about displeasing Allah SWT' I think this is revealing of your faith. It is good to know that you have faith because you fear Allah's displeasure and seek His bounties. Can I argue that there is nothing wrong in working good deeds, to make this planet better. Afterall, God made us vicegerants on this earth, remember when Allah informed the Angels of this? By all means endevour to celebrate your life but do not be taken in by this passing world. It is a deception, a distraction from the hereafter,so be careful in that regard whilst you continue to help urself and others.

A man once asked the prophet Mohammad(pbuh) what is the most beloved deed to Allah. The prophet(pbuh) informed the man;

1)Prayer upon its time
2)Being dutiful to your parents
3)Jihad in the way of Allah

Notice Jihad ranked third to being good to one's parents. So in answer to your question, its not only matyrs who are guranteed paradise. The rightous like you also have their place in paradise alongside the prophets. I am going to tell you a hadith see If you can practise it. The prophet (pbuh) said "I gurantee you Jannah(paradise) If you gurantee me to control what is in between your mouth and what is in between you legs"

That is a challenge thrown at you from the messenger of Allah. Jihad against the desires of the soul. This is not for the kuffar as they dont believe in the prophet. It is for the believers. If a kaffir is able to do this, I will eat myself, because its impossible for an infidel.

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 10:00 PM

Naseem I just re-read your note, I missed something shocking. You ask

..."But if we don't know and have never seen or heard from anyone in Jannah enjoying ...how do we know that this is even true?"....

Do you doubt Allah's promise? Do you even believe paradise exists and hell exists? If you have doubt, I don't have a ounce weight of doubt. You know what you and I need? A long friendly chat lol it is hard to explain everything on pc because I am finding difficulty in gauging what really believe? Here is Naseem's opportunity to tell us all, what she believes,,,,A-Z lol I think you guys pretty know almost all my beliefs

Posted by: Abdullah at April 12, 2007 10:21 PM

You don't think the Iraqis will shed one tear over the puppet officials inside the Green Zone, do you? They are illegitimate representatives who were not supposed to be there in the first place. Add to that the fact that they're there with the blessing of the Americans who once they leave the puppets will flee.

Posted by: idn batutta at April 13, 2007 1:14 AM

Muslims blowing up Muslims.

And?

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 13, 2007 1:30 AM

Assalamau Laikum mik,

LOL...what a grand lund you are....why do you have to lower the tone of what is perhaps the absolute nub of what it is to be a muslim.

Abdullah, being in Pak myself ...it is not the easiest to have a chat. I do come to the UK ocassionally...then I will let you know ...it would be good ...please do not forget that I am Ahmadi...this still means I am muslim...and therefore no need for conversion...I am happy as I am.

As for faith...I have lots of faith in Allah ....but I guess I want to be here for my childrens for as long as I can... as Anwer is no more...so do not really think much about paradise /death all that much....my main focus is dawa and will continue so ...to my simple mind this is more effective....this is my contribution to spread the good message of our saviour of whom we are all slaves.

The Hadith you mentioned was interesting...our prophet certainly was a remarkable man...truly guided by Allah SWT.

Posted by: Naseem at April 13, 2007 3:45 AM

Hugh as usual sums it up beautifully:

"The Americans in Iraq are hopelessly dependent on Iraqis for information about Iraq. They never know whom to trust."

Yes, we don't have a F&^%$%G clue.

4 years on and we're still without intelligence

And the Neo Con master plan for Iraq was

a) civilians welcome us with open arms.

The most cretinous plan since........well....since a long time.

F&^%&*^G Neo Cons. They handed Bosnia and Kosovo to the Islamists - after all , have to win a few brownie points on Arab avenue - and now they dumbed it down even further with this debacle.

And recently on the left the Neo Cons have been offering invites to the MB - see today's Jihad watch - and on the right , Frontpage have got some MB apologists too.

We're F%^&$D

Posted by: ewha1 at April 13, 2007 4:11 AM

everytime i read abdullas posts, i can hear abu from the simpsons saying it. lol

Posted by: mrockroll1969 at April 13, 2007 6:03 AM

"I don't have a ounce weight of doubt.....from Abby"

.....nor a ounce of brain...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 13, 2007 9:06 AM