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April 12, 2007

Democrats invite Muslim Brotherhood leader to speak to Congress

A new apex of cluelessness (if the story is accurate). Would they have invited Hitler to address Congress in 1942?

"Egyptian Daily: Democrats Invite Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Leader and Muslim Brotherhood MPs to Congress," from the MEMRI Blog, with thanks to all who sent this in:

The Egyptian opposition daily Al-Masryoon reported that high-level diplomatic sources said that Muslim Brotherhood General Guide Muhammad Mahdi 'Akef, several members of his office, and Muslim Brotherhood MPs had been invited by U.S. Democrat congressmen to visit the U.S. next month and to speak to Congress.

Posted by Robert at April 12, 2007 4:39 PM
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When I read this I asked myself the same question, 'would they have invited Hitler?' we know that is a yes.

How can we stop this. Does this take a Federal Lawsuit? This is going to take place in our U.S. Congress, is there no respect for our country?....The patriots that have served (there are no more serving) would scream hypocrosy and treason.

I would like to know who is paying the bill? who invited them? I would like to see a vote put to the floor of Congress to make it formal of which Congressman wants the Muslim Brotherhood on American soil and in the U.S. Congress.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 4:47 PM

May I suggest compiling a list of islam-isms and what they actually mean so that if the invited speakers spout some idiotic islam-isms the listeners will know their actual meanings.

For instance any utterance of "justice" will mean that Sharia law is in full effect and any utterance of "those on the right path" means moslems only...everyone else is doomed to hell.

Care to add any others?

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 4:54 PM

Keith Ellison inviting his brothers in islame?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:12 PM

Rep. S. Hoyer, (D) Maryland. Majority Leader.

Democrats are sixth pillar of Submission.

Posted by: SickBoy [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:14 PM

The dems are at it again...

For all of you who take such joy in bashing Bush, take a hard look at the alternatives....

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:27 PM

Chamberlain for sure would have invited Hitler to the House of Commons and feasted him on the traditional tea and muffins of the period.
Would he have been ignorant of the threat that the Nazis posed?
No, he believed that "negotiation' was the only way to avoid conflict, so he was quite prepared to that and even debase himself and his country for that purpose. Hence we end up with ridiculous pieces of paper with peace in our time scrawled upon them. Chamberlain is lauded as a "wise" peace maker and those who clearly see and warn of the threat and evil of nazism become pariahs and warmongerers.
History has a way of repeating itself .

Posted by: chevalier de st george [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:29 PM

I guess if you hate everything good about America and want to destroy it, then it makes sense to invite those of the same persuasion.

Posted by: LivingVictory [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:32 PM

You have to understand these people are not al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, but the original bob so to speak of the Banna Nazi movement of Egypt.

It was this movement which gave rise to bin Laden in the Islamofascist. They though are not the same order and TO BE REMEMBERED, they prefer voting people into office to get power and assert their Shira first and only resort to jihad when all else fails to convert.
The older MB members are rather hide in the bushes types who do not like interaction while the younger order is more interacting with different groups.

All Islam is not one body. The MB is their own master and do not seem to take bribes or act out for Iran or America.
Some nations like Syria are what would be called at war with the MB as the MB in Syria detests Assad and his meddling in Lebanon.

In either case, the Democrats seem to find ways to pull defeat out of victory over Republicans, because Nance playing cuddle with Assad, them voting Ellison in and the continuous "meetings" are going to bite them in the butt when a terrorist event happens......because just like here people deem all Muslims as all Muslims.
The MB will not resort to terrorism "first", but it is all Americans will remember is terrorists meeting at Congress and these people are terrorists. They just employ a different form.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:36 PM

The phrase "Turkeys voting for Christmans" springs to mind.

Posted by: Hermit [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:39 PM

Isn't The Brotherhood on the official Terrorist Organization list?

The increasing levels of stupidity in congress just boggle the mind.

Unfreakin believable.

Posted by: walterc [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:40 PM

Democrats invite Muslim Brotherhood leader to speak to Congress

Right after the next terror attack in America this will be a great commercial if it ever happens. I doubt it will happen. The Muslim Brotherhood had ties with the Nazis in Germany.
As Hitler said, "there are good Semites and there are bad Semites". The Muslim Brotherhood are the "good" Semites.

Next thing we'll see Ibby "Pig Eyes" Hooper speak and after that we will hear the tapes of his Jew-hatred. Can you say "set-up".


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=15344

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:42 PM

Nothing like inviting Joseph Goebbels to deliver a speech extolling the virtues and righteousness of his cause.

Can you say 5th column?

We get what we tolerate.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 5:45 PM

chevalier de st george .....You are correct history does repeat itself Islam proves it everyday.So do the politicians.

There can be no peace when one only desires submission of the others.This too is islam.

These rapist,murderers and pedophiles that wish to speak before OUR representatives are nothing more than the representatives of the terror organization of islam,one of them.The father of them.

They should be arrested as soon as they set foot off that plane,if not SHOT on sight.

They can be recognized as whatever they wish to be and the politicians can coddle them for all i care because none speak for me and that makes them (the politicians )no better than the dogs these freaks are.

The only time they should be allowed inside America never mind congress is to surremder themselves to the gallows.

You ride on your mystery ship and sail to the river styx to your hearts desire.Just know you sell your own soul and mine has naught to do with it.

Do not allow yourself to become a shiled for the religion of death because the days without pitty will approach.

Let us not forget our friends at CAIR an organization of pigs and apes.
CAIR is a terrorist organization.END CAIR NOW!!!

I said these things and no other "other",no 'other""infedel" No "other" "kafir" it was all me DAR AL-HARB and i have far worse things to say and it's all TRUE and anti islamic.

You done sucking that egg yet CAIR?

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:00 PM

Just when I think the Republicans are incredibly naive I read about something like the Pelosi freelance diplom-assy or this idiocy, and I just think: Dumb and Dumber.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:07 PM

We know who the Chamberlains are ... but who is our Churchill?

Posted by: calatrava [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:09 PM

Excellent opportunity for both Republicans and Democrats who haven't been compromised to walk out in mass as a protest and to show the dhimmis for what they are.

Posted by: TexasInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:25 PM

Abdullah-

I understand that in the Koran Muslims are referred to as "apes and Pigs". Is that right?

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:27 PM

alaskan1000 posted:

"I would like to know who is paying the bill? who invited them? I would like to see a vote put to the floor of Congress to make it formal of which Congressman wants the Muslim Brotherhood on American soil and in the U.S. Congress."

I just finished emailing my Congressman about this. I explained to him that the Brotherhood is NOT a moderate group, and asked if he would do anything in his power to stop this or at least be part of a walk-out.
This particular Congressman came through before, voting correctly to protect John Does from lawsuits over reporting suspicious behavior - and he's a Minnesota Democrat, no less.

There's hope for some of them, but they won't know how you feel unless you tell them.

Posted by: freedomschool [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:27 PM

TexasInfidel--if only. A mass walkout would be a wonderful way to protest this madness. What's next, Pelosi meeting with Hassan Nasrallah?

You get that off HuffPo, Abby? Regardless, your act is really starting to wear thin at this point.

Posted by: staff_of_magius [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:31 PM

During their trip to Syria, Rep. Tom Lantos said the Democrats had an alternative foreign policy. Is this it? Their strategy is talk, talk, talk. We have no enemies, only people whom we need to get to know better. Once they become our friends, they'll stop attacking us.
What will it take for them to see the light - a mushroom cloud over an American city?

Please keep us apprised of when this will happen. I would like to watch it and see just what our brave representatives do.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:34 PM

A new apex of cluelessness (if the story is accurate). Would they have invited Hitler to address Congress in 1942?

So is this a conspiracy? Do you think that there is "secret plan" to kill American soldiers in Iraq?

Do you believe that there are really people out there that mean to do us harm?

Such nonesense!

It's all the stuff of conspiracy nutcase theories where "insiders" are out to get us.

Excellent opportunity for both Republicans and Democrats who haven't been compromised to walk out in mass as a protest and to show the dhimmis for what they are...

Walk out en mass? Actually, if there are such people as you describe, I would prefer to see them march in with the military MP's and arrest everyone else and hang them for treason.

After that, we can turn the whole bunch over to abdullah will can carry out his empyrean pronouncement of eternal justice; after all, abdulla tells his god how and when to judge -- kind of like a genie in a bottle.

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:36 PM

YeeHaa! Allah=Lucifer, yep a lot of them will be joining you and the rest of your murdering scum in hades, as it should be.
“The poets are in the ninth chasm of the eighth circle, that of the Sowers of Discord, whose punishment is to be mutilated. Mahomet shows his entrails to Dante and Virgil
while on the left stands his son Ali, his head cleft from chin to forelock.”
Ouch! That will leave a mark!
Click below if you have the guts.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:38 PM

How ironic that the Muslims would have an organization with the word "brotherhood" in it. You can bet that it's only a "Muslim" brotherhood. The universal kind has eluded them these past 1400 years.
By now, all of those brothers are inbred and have a very high level of idiocy. Maybe they need to marry someone who isn't a "sister" for a change.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:43 PM

Republicans? Democrats? Who CARES anymore its like watching two whores wrestling each other in the mud to amuse their Saudi masters. I once railed at America's 'gun lobby' for the usual reasons but now I see guns in private hands as the last (perhaps the ONLY) line of defense of our freedom.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:48 PM

This has Nancy Pelosi's signature all over it. She is such a traitor!! Fire the woman!!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:53 PM

Not cluelessness at all. A conscious decision as was the trip, the agenda, and all the plans behind it.

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 6:57 PM

.Dr. Mohamed Al-Sayyed Habib, the first deputy of the General Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood-what was published by "The Egyptians" that the virtue of the electronic guide and a number of members of the Guidance Bureau, and representatives from the Parliamentary bloc of the group had received an invitation from House Democrats, Congress to visit the United States next month and talk in front of the Congress.
ا .He told "Brothers Online" that news was totally untrue and without any basis, especially as there are rules of protocol in place in such a matter, pointing out that the door that was open to civil society institutions and Western research and study centers-governmental organizations, however, is another matter with the government bodies.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.ikhwanonline.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.ikhwanonline.com/%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:00 PM

Joe Schmoe USA, hmmm, Christopher Paul, hmmm.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:21 PM
Republicans? Democrats? Who CARES anymore its like watching two whores wrestling each other in the mud to amuse their Saudi masters. I once railed at America's 'gun lobby' for the usual reasons but now I see guns in private hands as the last (perhaps the ONLY) line of defense of our freedom.

- Posted by: poetcomic1

Correct on both counts.

1. The republican traitors, scum, appeasers and demons operate at quarter speed. The democrat traitors, scum, appeasers and demons operate at flank speed. They are One, which is why no matter how outrageous "opposition" dem. actions become, the repubs do nothing. They sense victory is near which is why they don't even try to look as if they are trying to protect the Nation.

2. Guns: This point in time was foreseen over 200 years ago. The Bill of Rights, which contains the Second Amendment, was ratified in 1791.

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:23 PM

I'm started to get the feeling it might be true..
Some'm going on..

In the United States' often futile search for "moderate Muslims" with active community support -- and at a moment when, isolated and suspect, Washington should be taking stock of its interests and capabilities in the Muslim world -- a conversation with the Muslim Brotherhood makes strong strategic sense.

Robert S. Leiken is Director of the Immigration and National Security Programs at the Nixon Center and the author of the forthcoming "Europe's Angry Muslims". Steven Brooke is a Research Associate at the Nixon Center.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/the_moderate_muslim_brotherhoo.html

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:49 PM

Will there ever be an end to this? I mean, you know, before the Imams take over and declare Sharia "law" on us and everybody finally sees that the the jig is up and where we're headed. With everybody defined here as non-Moslems, of course.

*** 33:21 ** 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 * * 33:21 ***

To repeat myself ad nauseum, and believe me, I'm as nauseated with my theory of Fictive Reality as any long-time luker or poster in here --- but probably not as nauseated as Messrs. Fitzgerald and Spencer --- we must all read Marshall McLuhan and read him soon.

I swear to the God or Gods on High, some evil Ayatollah did read him and saw how the ball could be reliably moved down the field towards the goal just by manipulating the strings on Hot and Cool with such sad-sack elites as Tim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Tony Blair, Hugh Hewitt, and other such ilk.

Please pardon my redundancy on the "evil Ayatollah" charge.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 7:59 PM

all i can say after watching the elected officials of our government act only in their best political interests is for you and all that you know to re-read the following text (sorry for the large post):

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776.
THE UNANIMOUS
DECLARATION
OF THE
THIRTEEN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

HE has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.

HE has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

HE has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodation of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyranny only.

HE has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.

HE has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.

HE has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining, in the mean Time, exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.

HE has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

HE has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

HE has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.

HE has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.

HE has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the Consent of our Legislatures.

HE has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

HE has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

FOR quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:

FOR protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

FOR cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:

FOR imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

FOR depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:

FOR transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:

FOR abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:

FOR taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

FOR suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.

HE has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection, and waging War against us.

HE has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

HE is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with Circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.

HE has constrained our Fellow-Citizens, taken Captive on the high Seas, to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

HE has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes, and Conditions.

IN every Stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every Act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.

NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them, from Time to Time, of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our Connexions and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the Rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

WE, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in GENERAL CONGRESS Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connexion between them and the State of Great-Britain, is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of Right do. And for the Support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of DIVINE PROVIDENCE, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honour.

John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH-CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH-CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr. Thomas Lynch, junr. Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja. Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr. Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW-YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW-JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW-HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS-BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE-ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, &c. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver Wolcott.

IN CONGRESS, JANUARY 18, 1777.

ORDERED,
THAT an authenticated Copy of the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCY, with the Names of the MEMBERS of CONGRESS, subscribing the same, be sent to each of the UNITED STATES, and that they be desired to have the same put on RECORD.
By Order of CONGRESS,
JOHN HANCOCK, President.

Posted by: viahj [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:01 PM

This is the great thing about Democrates!

They always shoot themselves in foot.

If we had republican leadership it would be an easy victory for them but alas I don't know if the Republicans have it in them anymore. To do that you have to name the enemy...

Will they do it! God I hope so..

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:07 PM

"Keep your enemy closer?" I don't think so. These lowermost orifices are determined to show that although we are fighting "several disconnected wars" (according to the Democrats), we have nothing but empathy and understanding for Islam--"a religion like any other," "one of the three Abrahamic faiths," "a religion that preaches peace," etc. They (dumb Democrats) are eager to show that they bear no ill will towards Islam, only towards the unnamed people fighting disconnected wars against the US.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:11 PM

I'm speechless for the moment.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:30 PM

I just thought of something. Someone should discuss with the Democrats why Ghandi was shot. I think they don't understand that point of history either.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:31 PM

Send this to democratic politicians...

The raid was conducted by Swiss law enforcement at the request of the White House in the initial crackdown on terrorist finances in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. US and Swiss investigators had been looking at Al-Taqwa’s involvement in money laundering and funding a wide range of Islamic terrorist groups, including Al-Qaeda, HAMAS (the Palestinian affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood), the Algerian GIA, and the Tunisian Ennahdah.
Included in the documents seized during the raid of Nada’s Swiss villa was a 14-page plan written in Arabic and dated December 1, 1982, which outlines a 12-point strategy to “establish an Islamic government on earth” – identified as The Project. According to testimony given to Swiss authorities by Nada, the unsigned document was prepared by “Islamic researchers” associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
What makes The Project so different from the standard “Death of America! Death to Israel!” and “Establish the global caliphate!” Islamist rhetoric is that it represents a flexible, multi-phased, long-term approach to the “cultural invasion” of the West. Calling for the utilization of various tactics, ranging from immigration, infiltration, surveillance, propaganda, protest, deception, political legitimacy and terrorism, The Project has served for more than two decades as the Muslim Brotherhood “master plan”. As can be seen in a number of examples throughout Europe – including the political recognition of parallel Islamist government organizations in Sweden, the recent “cartoon” jihad in Denmark, the Parisian car-burning intifada last November, and the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London – the plan outlined in The Project has been overwhelmingly successful.
Rather than focusing on terrorism as the sole method of group action, as is the case with Al-Qaeda, in perfect postmodern fashion the use of terror falls into a multiplicity of options available to progressively infiltrate, confront, and eventually establish Islamic domination over the West. The following tactics and techniques are among the many recommendations made in The Project:

Networking and coordinating actions between likeminded Islamist organizations;
Avoiding open alliances with known terrorist organizations and individuals to maintain the appearance of “moderation”;
Infiltrating and taking over existing Muslim organizations to realign them towards the Muslim Brotherhood’s collective goals;
Using deception to mask the intended goals of Islamist actions, as long as it doesn’t conflict with shari’a law;
Avoiding social conflicts with Westerners locally, nationally or globally, that might damage the long-term ability to expand the Islamist powerbase in the West or provoke a lash back against Muslims;
Establishing financial networks to fund the work of conversion of the West, including the support of full-time administrators and workers;
Conducting surveillance, obtaining data, and establishing collection and data storage capabilities;
Putting into place a watchdog system for monitoring Western media to warn Muslims of “international plots fomented against them”;
Cultivating an Islamist intellectual community, including the establishment of think-tanks and advocacy groups, and publishing “academic” studies, to legitimize Islamist positions and to chronicle the history of Islamist movements;
Developing a comprehensive 100-year plan to advance Islamist ideology throughout the world;
Balancing international objectives with local flexibility;
Building extensive social networks of schools, hospitals and charitable organizations dedicated to Islamist ideals so that contact with the movement for Muslims in the West is constant;
Involving ideologically committed Muslims in democratically-elected institutions on all levels in the West, including government, NGOs, private organizations and labor unions;
Instrumentally using existing Western institutions until they can be converted and put into service of Islam;
Drafting Islamic constitutions, laws and policies for eventual implementation;
Avoiding conflict within the Islamist movements on all levels, including the development of processes for conflict resolution;
Instituting alliances with Western “progressive” organizations that share similar goals;
Creating autonomous “security forces” to protect Muslims in the West;
Inflaming violence and keeping Muslims living in the West “in a jihad frame of mind”;
Supporting jihad movements across the Muslim world through preaching, propaganda, personnel, funding, and technical and operational support;
Making the Palestinian cause a global wedge issue for Muslims;
Adopting the total liberation of Palestine from Israel and the creation of an Islamic state as a keystone in the plan for global Islamic domination;
Instigating a constant campaign to incite hatred by Muslims against Jews and rejecting any discussions of conciliation or coexistence with them;
Actively creating jihad terror cells within Palestine;
Linking the terrorist activities in Palestine with the global terror movement;
Collecting sufficient funds to indefinitely perpetuate and support jihad around the world;

In reading The Project, it should be kept in mind that it was drafted in 1982 when current tensions and terrorist activities in the Middle East were still very nascent. In many respects, The Project is extremely prescient for outlining the bulk of Islamist action, whether by “moderate” Islamist organizations or outright terror groups, over the past two decades.
At present, most of what is publicly known about The Project is the result of Sylvain Besson’s investigative work, including his book and a related article published last October in the Swiss daily, Le Temps, L'islamisme à la conquête du monde (Islamism and the Conquest of the World), profiling his book, which is only available in a French-language edition. At least one Egyptian newspaper, Al-Mussawar, published the entire Arabic text of The Project last November.

Posted by: savitch [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:51 PM

To create you must care. You must have the courage to speak out. The world's advances always have depended on the courage of its leaders. A certain measure of courage in the private citizen also is necessary to the good conduct of the State. Otherwise men who have power through riches, intrigue, or office will administer the State at will, and ultimately to their private advantage.
-Hyman Rickover from a more manageable time

Congress used to be filled with Veterans, it is now filled with lawyers. Who would want the job? It consists of making promises to raise money from the financial oligarchy in order to make unsustainable promises to the masses who have been made addicted to government programs. The United States has become ungovernable and we are seeing are the symptoms. Credit ratings will bring the game to an end.

I’m convinced that there is a critical mass of strength in America that will pick up the pieces. I think we may be living through a great strengthening of our Country. The end of the Nurturing Age. To hedge my bet though, I’m learning to raise chickens and buying lots of ammunition. This is a great site:

http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/issues/current.html#article1

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 8:54 PM


"Avoiding social conflicts with Westerners locally, nationally or globally, that might damage the long-term ability to expand the Islamist powerbase in the West or provoke a lash back against Muslims; "

the back lash has begun.
the brotherhood screw up big time whenever they have bombed targets in the west, they lose credibility even with the marxists and class war advocates. they have also started the first phase in urban warfare, rioting in france and the UK, making bombs and promoting the awakening. if they wouldve been smart they couldve just kept producing babies, peacefully demonstrating and gaining massive support and recruitment from the socialists.

we are, thank goodness, dealing with a very stupid enemy.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:00 PM

As opposed to walking out, I wish a group of aware legislators with a little moxie would stand up and un-invite these “gentlemen.” Then perhaps each in turn can speak forcefully, truthfully, as to why they are being un-invited. Make a stink, make it stick, push and shove, use a little profanity, “Hell no, they will NOT be speaking from this floor.”

Posted by: butterfly [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:02 PM

The Muslim Brotherhood was also assisted in the creation and later used by the Grand Mufti. It was through the Muslim Brotherhood that recruitment for the Nazi Waffen SS Divisions grew with Middle Eastern muslims.

It was also the Muslim Brotherhood and the Grand Mufti that was behind the Jerusalem Massacres.

Many people in the Democrat party are not Democrats. There are several Communists and Socialists. Wolves in sheeps clothing

They (and not all Democrats)have made a whore house out of our judicial system, now it looks like they are going to make a whore house out of Congress.

This is the same disgusting action that we see in the U.N. The left struts in any two piece, third world kiler that is racist and critisizes our society for not being civilized, and brings these killers into the U.N. and empowers them, authenticates them, and raises them up for being the killers that they are, and we are to listen to them tell us how to run our country. Now it has moved from the U.N. to the U.S. Congress. I am embarrassed for the Democrats stupidity and the Patriots that have died for this country that is now losing it's identity.

Tell your Congressman to stop it now, and we want to know who initiated this.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:06 PM

Maybe they could show up with big fat salami sandwiches /w a couple of greasy bacon strips on top, of course and just start chomping away reading out of Jeffersons Bible and ignoring the islamist speaker. The texican says it all the time, be armed, be prepared.
joe schmoe USA, I knew it! You can smell one (if you try)even through a CRT.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:14 PM

Can this be true? Not that the Egyptians are claiming it is true, but can their claim be true? Other than Keith Ellison, is there anyone in Congress who would participate? Paul Findley wasn't elected while no one was looking, was he?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:26 PM

savitch,

Do you have any reference for the Muslim Brotherhood Project. For all I know this could just be another Protocols of Zion hoax. I just want to double check.

Posted by: wrathofasma [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:33 PM

wrath, this is the article...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22415

Posted by: savitch [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:40 PM

Maybe Lantos, the holocaust survivor that is so eager to see the sequel? Examine the northern Ca. reps they are with the ayran butterhood in spirit if not in action.
http://www.zombietime.com/berkeley_racist_literature/
All Hitlerists throughout the world are uniting for the final conflict they just don’t understand who the winner will be. But I know, just call me the oracle of Ca.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:43 PM

Being naked while having sex annuls marriage:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/04/13/cairo-being-naked-during-sex-annuls-marriage/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:48 PM

Lame Cherry

Among some others, your comments do stand out and reflect experience..occasionally (rarely) after reading a post such as yours above, I reach behind my mantle clock and make sure my .25 Auto is oiled, loaded and ready..tx for the homework

Posted by: nodak [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:51 PM

Sheik-- as the chorus of "Whoops!" goes up again all over Cairo, we covered that one a while ago:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009735.php

Posted by: MarisolJW [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:58 PM

I, for one, am 100% behind having the MB speak in our Congress.

And I would hope we can get a 100% turnout of our Senate and House.

And that the MB get to answer questions--questions that we ask our representatives to ask.

We will take notes on whether those questions are asked and by whom.

We will watch to determine who are nodding in agreement. We will note any and all lies told.

This is not a travesty--it's an opportunity. Do we now fear the truth?

If only we could have had hitler before a joint session of Congress in 1938 coupled with a Bush-type doctrine of preemption.

We can experience their poison without being poisoned by it.

We can challenge their lies and deceptions without falling prey to them.

This can be the event that lifts the veil from the eyes of the sleeping tiger that America is.

Let us all listen very carefully to what the Muslim Brotherhood has to say.

Posted by: turn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 9:59 PM

Oh goody! The world's largest source of terrorism is going to Washington DC for a legitimization party! How great is that??!!!?

BUT---

There can be no doubt that the Muslim Brotherhood will sugarcoat the reality that it is the leader of a cult that practices widespread first degree murder in the same manner that it would replace a lightbulb in its office.

Will representatives from the Muslim Brotherhood, for example, read to Congressional members texts from the Kuran that read for example: "and when the forbidden months have ended, slaughter the unbelievers everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, torture them, prepare every stratagem of warfare upon them; levy the poor tax upon their conversion to the ways of al-lah" ???

Will these reps from the Muslim Brotherhood reveal to the Congressional members the true identity of Islam (that it is a human sacrifice cult that originates in babylon and worships the Mesopotamian moon-god)? Will they tell the truth to Congress that Islam has massacred over 300 million people in its 13.5 centuries of documented history???

Will the Muslim Brotherhood admit to its own past crimes including plans to attack the US jointly with the third Reich using V-2 rockets loaded with atomic bombs??

Will it admit to its present-day role as the brutal ringleader of the equally brutal global jihad?

Of course not. The US government has never looked worse in the eyes of the world--or weaker. In the words of Will Rogers "the US has the best Congress that money can buy." So we can all rest assured that the Muslim Brotherhood will spare no expense in buying off the US government and getting itsd members to turn a blind eye to the reality that it is the founder of Islamic terrorism as we know it today. Obama Barack will see to that, be sure of it.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:16 PM

Why do I feel this helplessness of not being able to move! I am in shock and shock! What bad news! I feel sickened really sickened! I guess I can go cry now! Yes, they said on Fox the Hollywooders want to rent out Lincoln bedroom! Barack too the one who is behind Imus getting fired!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:24 PM

savitch,
That is unbelievable, therefore I totally believe it.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:25 PM

pythagoras:

Now you're advocating exactly what I'm advocating.

Let us legitiimize and popularise the nature of their agenda in order to expose it.

Face it, brother. We don't yet have the general public on oor side.

We can do it if we just give them the rope.

Posted by: turn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:32 PM

The Creed of the muslim brotherhood

"allah is our objective,
the Quran is our Constitution,
the Prophet is our leader,
struggle [jihad] is our way ..."

This is what they're about.
They posture and shout each day,
they are the generals of the jihad
and do all they can
to spread mischief
throughout our sacred land.
They relish their power
and live only to increase it.
Freedom cannot flourish or flower
where ever they go,
and where ever they go,
the sheik is not far behind.

Posted by: the poetess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:32 PM

gusa...
I know who Christopher Paul is..but what? schmoe USA, I knew it! You can smell one (if you try)even through a CRT.
what's up?

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:54 PM

Can anyone corroborate this story, or is this just a "high-ranking" figure, unnamed, and is the only source a blog? I am skeptical, I am surprised this has been repeated on DW. This sounds like a plant intended to smear. An opposition party does not invite another opposition party to speak in the legislature. It just is not done.

Posted by: Quijybo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 10:58 PM

Why not appoint Charles Manson Senate Chaplin?

Makes about as much sense. besides, we appear to be heading in that direction anyway.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:04 PM

Thanks for the link savitch. And thanks for another sleepless night for me, though it's not your fault.

Somewhat OT: I'm sure most of you gets really stressed out after a daily dose of J Watch. Here's a link to a stress reducer. Print it out and place it on a flat surface first before using it.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~norm/images/banghead.gif

Posted by: wrathofasma [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:30 PM

Why should the democrats not invite the muslim brotherhood to speak before congress? They are allies...it is only fitting. I am not making a joke here...they are allies!

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:44 PM

Let us all listen very carefully to what the Muslim Brotherhood has to say.
Posted by: turn
so these islamist can lie bold faced to the US Congress? what is there to find out what we do not already know about these bunch of cowardly killers.
l say write, call , fax, your congressmen now, and
tell them that by inviting terrorist to the US will
only prove that Dem controlled congress has no understanding of these terrorists, and that when another attack comes, you will remmeber who invited these islamist monsters to Congress!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:48 PM
Other than Keith Ellison, is there anyone in Congress who would participate?

Bahgdad jim.

------------------------------
Who is Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood?

The Hamas terror group, responsible for dozens of suicide bombings in Israel, was founded in 1987 as a military offshoot of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

In other words: filthy, arab, muslim, nazi (really, research the grand mufti), genocidal, Jew-killing terrorists.

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:54 PM

turn wrote:
"We can do it if we just give them the rope."

Agreed to a point. The opportunity to further expose Islam is definately present, as you stated, and Islamists should always be encouraged to speak for that very reason. That being said, complete ignorance of Islam is no longer a valid defense.

The rope, however, is not the problem. We've given them ample rope and ironically, they weave the stuff faster than we can give it to them. It makes no difference, however. All the rope in the world is no match for PC, the oil that keeps the ol'Islamic train-wreck chuggin' along. The very same oil that also has the uncanny ability to override the thoughts of the otherwise logical and sane.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 12, 2007 11:57 PM

Not to mention Steny Hoyer.

Top Democrat meets Hamas-supporting group.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55087

Posted by: Arm A. Geddon [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:04 AM

Whats up?
You linked to what I interpreted as pro MB pages. We have established that the MB seeks slow jihad and since we know that islamists have been given orders to post on these sites using western names what am I to think? I’m asking you, are you an islamist, an apologist practicing taquilla? Do you believe that mo is a prophet and alla is the one true God?

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:21 AM

we are, thank goodness, dealing with a very stupid enemy.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer


Leon, I commend your optimism. They've managed to take over a whole lot of Nations already. I'm not gonna rag on Britain. I am German so I'll sweep in front of my own doorstep before I comment elsewhere.

They are about to recognize PISlam as an "official" religion in Germany.

Problem is about half of all indigenous Germans are going along with all of this WILLFULLY - *down* the slippery slope that leads straight to the CLIFF!

Die Dummen Deutschen... Gotverdamme Kloetsaks

In German or Dutch.. stupid muthas.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:32 AM

Barack too the one who is behind Imus getting fired!

Posted by: MZ


I know this is getting Off Topic.. but..

Imus fired himself. He went on sharpton-radio. Gave the dumf••k a platform. He didn't walk when Al slim shady got abusive either.. WHAT a DAMN fool!

I swore to myself NEVER AGAIN will I tune him in in the morning. NOT after what he did - allowing sharpton to get into the spotlight ONCE AGAIN!!

Posibly setting the stage for sharpton/jackson, the English-mangler to influence talk radio from now on.

It just shows Imus has no clue re. the bigger issues at hand!!

9/11 when I woke up to the big bang of the first plane exploding inside the WTC I turned on the radio and Imus was on announcing that a plane had hit the WTC. The reason it was tuned to Imus is because I am a Mets fan and the station Imus is on carries the Mets. I sometimes go to sleep with the Mets game / post-game on..

Thanks a LOT, Slimus! Thanks a whole lot for NUTTIN'!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:40 AM

we are, thank goodness, dealing with a very stupid enemy.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer

Leon.. we are dealing with a cunning enemy as well.. our own Sozis and Greens and all the other malcontents who are stopping at nothing to bring down all of our countries.

Is this what Britain fought Germany for?

So that we all go down this ignoble path to islamism running our countries.. ?

Slowly tightening their octopus grip...

..aided by the Lieberals and the Sozis who write the Laws that will have you and I in jail for simply speaking up?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:44 AM

Stop comparing everyone you don't agree with to Hitler, it's childish.

Posted by: idn batutta [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:04 AM

Take a pill Allahfanculo. You're getting a bit paranoid.

Posted by: City Slicker from a Leftist State [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:13 AM

I am a member of the Religion of DADA.

I demand UPSIDE DOWN urinals!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:14 AM

Take a pill Allahfanculo. You're getting a bit paranoid.

Posted by: City Slicker from a Leftist State


Yeah.. a BLUE pill...

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:18 AM

.. reality will come crashing down ...

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:19 AM

Reality is crashing down.. my girlfriend is pissed I am at the computer so much..

Late

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:19 AM

Hey, guys!

I'm just advocating the opportunity to expose the MB for what they are.

This is where the hung members of Congress get to expose the castrati. This is where the general public gets to watch.

Bring it!

Posted by: turn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:24 AM

Stop comparing everyone you don't agree with to Hitler, it's childish.--idn batutta

Nothing childish about making valid comparisons.

Posted by: staff_of_magius [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:31 AM

You know why liberals [there are some liberal republicans besides democrats] want dialog with these murder cult jihadees & and think its novel letting them mouth their moon god mantras before congress masquerading as some sort of universalist prayer?

Two things...

Their oddball views in "diversity" & "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" mentality. It shouldn't shock any of us how they are handling these present situations...they are just doing it how any normal liberal would handle this situation.

Posted by: SoteriA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:33 AM

Whats up?
You linked to what I interpreted as pro MB...

Oh..I get it..sorry ..I'm new on this site..I linked the MB up to show what they are saying.
If you want to know who I am ..and trust me on this...I am as anti- mo as they come.
.my web blog.
http://muslimbridgesfallingdown.blogspot.com/
and some of my anti-mo comments
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=d9cc4545-dba1-48af-91ac-cc7442aa456d

Frankly speaking ..I believe Mo's the false prophet and Allah's the beast he came riding in on. That's the gospel accordin' to Joe Schmoe!lol

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:35 AM

Yeah.. a BLUE pill...
Posted by: Allahfanculo

hehe Actually, I was thinking of something along the lines of Hydro. Possibly delivered in a UPS truck.

Posted by: City Slicker from a Leftist State [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:37 AM

Congress--Senate & House--are about 97% lawyers. If there's one thing they know, it's how to question a witness.

Make it public and they'll inevitably grandstand it--make the very most of it. They can't help themselves.

If we forearm them with the truth about the MB, they'll acquit themselves well.

Posted by: turn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:44 AM

Time for a 10-million man & woman march.

Posted by: Jimmy Bones [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 2:21 AM

Well, guys, look -- maybe there is a silver lining in all this, and that is that the Dems are virtually guaranteeing a Republican win in the next presidential election.

Posted by: AmericanJewess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 3:12 AM

Speak in front of Congress? Never!! Here is a better idea, have the guy sit in front of a combined committee of House and Senate and let them fire questions at him. See how well he takes it. I can just imagine how a guy like Tancredo or Hunter would like to level both barrels at him. I have seen brave men pale in front of these committees. Better yet let O'Reilly at him. Picture a scene like him and Geraldo had. One thing he is not is soft on Islam. But I doubt the MB leader would be brave enough to do either.

This is close to being the low point for the Dems if it is true. Am waiting for the other shoe to drop -- an invite to Ahmadinejad..Nan and Tom want to visit him after all. Another Constitutional violation of their appointed powers. They are so good at shooting off their mouths but not about getting anything done. Where is all that wonderful legislation that Nan promised? They are oh, about 0-9 now. Not one thing has made it to the President's desk, which is really good, except for money for the troops. A do-nothing Congress is actually good for the economy. They are not spending any new money.

Ah, political correctness and multiculturalism is finally showing the fruits of all those years of labor...we are slowly following Europe down the same road. Dhimmitude is not my cup of tea but the Dems and all their liberal allies seem hell bent on getting us there. God I look wretched in a burkha. Besides I am too darned old to change.

Posted by: TeamNfdL [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 4:19 AM

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009890

The Trouble With Islam

I don't know if this link has been posted previously. If it has, sorry

Posted by: Dsinc [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 4:38 AM

From abode:

"For all of you who take such joy in bashing Bush, take a hard look at the alternatives....

I know. We're spoilt for choice. It's coming up to 6 years since WTF and well over a decade since the first attack and the penny's got a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong way before it drops.....if ever.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 4:58 AM

Well said Arm A. Geddon. You wrote

"Who is Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood?

The Hamas terror group, responsible for dozens of suicide bombings in Israel, was founded in 1987 as a military offshoot of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

In other words: filthy, arab, muslim, nazi (really, research the grand mufti), genocidal, Jew-killing terrorists."

The MB have groups under different names all over the world. For example,

the EIJ are MB and were given safe refuge in Albania by Albania's present leader.

In Bosnia, Izetbegovic - Moron Spamclair and Moronette Ian's hero - founded the "Young Muslims". It was based on the MB and provided the pool of recruits for the 13th SS division.

The mujahideen are essentially MB but with a groovy new name

Linking the MB to the Nazis is correct. The MB founder - Al Banna - was a huge NAZI and helped spy for the Nazis.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 5:08 AM

If this is true, then the Dems really are allies of the Jihadis.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 5:48 AM

Do the Democrats understand what taqiyya is?
Write to your member of congress and ask what his/her understanding of that word.

Posted by: Odyessus [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:11 AM

Sorry that should have read-

Write to your member of congress and ask what IS his/her understanding of that word.

Also ask them what they make of the following statement.

“Islam is politics in the guise of religion.”

Attributed to ex-Muslim Ali Sina.

Posted by: Odyessus [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:29 AM

"I reach behind my mantle clock and make sure my .25 Auto is oiled, loaded and ready..tx for the homework

Posted by: nodak"

....while a .25 auto is a nice little gun...it would be in your best interest to move up to a little more firepower....a 15 shot 9mm is minimum for a handgun...more bullets and much more lethal....a "streetsweeper" shotgun is the weapon of choice for a home invasion...for longer distance protection, get a Ruger mini 14,or Colt Ar 15, or find an old M1 Garand (still one of the best combat rifles around). (if you are wealthy and have contacts, get a H & K 416). whatever you get, stockpile the ammo, have plenty on hand..


....whatever you get, make sure everyone in your family is trained...start practicing your survival techniques now, then you will be prepared when the time comes...


....organized neighborhood awareness programs are encouraged....

....Buy surplus military MREs (meals ready to eat) and store them, just encase groceries suddenly become unavailible. Have several cases of bottled water availiable for emergency use. Purchase portable water sterilization units from camping and hiking equipment suppliers.


...Buy survival books and manuals, read and practice the techniques in them...

...develope secret codes to communicate among your neighbors and friends, just in case you suspect the enemy is too close.

...get a quality German Shepherd dog and participate with your dog in the guard dog training programs availiable. The dog will be more alert than you could lever be.

...scout out remote areas near your house for possible emergency hideaways...

...do not trust strangers(especially if they look Middle Eastern, have Arabic names, are wearing burkas or Middle Eastern clothes, or show up asking too many questions).

...join a paint ball orgainization as a way to become familiar with urban warfare tactics and to improve your reaction time with weapons (without actually using real weapons)...

...go camping, practice starting fires without matches, finding natural water sources, moving quietly through the underbrush, take up bird watching (through birdwatching you will develope skills about moving quietly and you will develope your observation skills)...

...buy topographical maps of your area, these will show the best navigatible routes through the undeveloped areas, trails, and other landmarks....

...buy a quality trail bicycle for emergency transportation....

...buy a backpack and have it already packed with emergency supplies,clothing, even a "Ron Popiel..Ronco pocket fisherman rod and reel...don't laugh, these will work good enough to catch fish and are very portable) and some creature comfort items (toilet paper), and have it ready to go on a moments notice...

....Buy good hiking boots, and wear them often.

....Buy a quality survival knife and a surplus army shovel/pick...

....Take up some kind of Kung Fu class...besides the exercises will do you a world of good = anyway...

....Buy a couple sets of portable walkie-talkies...These are not expensive and may save your life...buy plenty of batteries. Have a small transistor radio , put these items in the backpack...

....Buy a quality compass and learn to use it..practice using the compass with the topographical maps you already have for your area, become familiar with the landmarks..hills, water towers, rail lines, trails and roads...know where you are going...

.....be prepared and be armed.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:33 AM

Now, the simple question is: do you have any proofs that this information is accurate? Or, "according to MEMRI blog that says that Egyptian opposition paper says that high-level diplomatic sources say that..." is good enough for you?
BTW, were you guys as crazy when Bush invited (not "according to MEMRI blog", but actually invited) the leader of Iraqi branch of Muslim Brotherhood to the White House? Or the leader of Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, founded by Iranian Revolutionary Guard? Or about the fact that Cheney (allegedly) finances Syrian Muslim Brotherhood -- as well as Iranian Sunni terrorist groups?

Posted by: Nikolay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:41 AM

Forgive me if I am wrong, but weren't the Dem's going to concentrate on the war on terror? What are we going to do, smooch to death the ones who would kill us?

Posted by: RIslander [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:19 AM


"BTW, were you guys as crazy when Bush invited (not "according to MEMRI blog", but actually invited) the leader of Iraqi branch of Muslim Brotherhood to the White House?"

......It is true Bush did invite members of the Muslim Brotherhood...this was in 2004....The invitation was not accepted...He sent the invitation at the suggestion of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (whose members I have listed below)...Perhaps if they had accepted the invitation, Bush may have learned a little more about the hate Muslims have for America...Then, I suppose, the dhimmicrats would have had their panties drawn up tight....


Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (NEA)
Assistant Secretary
Assistant Secretary C. David Welch 6242 202-647-7209
Personal Assistant Sandy Grigola 6242 202-647-7209
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary Jim Jeffrey
6242
202-647-7207
Deputy Assistant Secretary Gordon Gray 6242 202-647-7166
Deputy Assistant Secretary Robert M. Danin 6242 202-647-7170
Deputy Assistant Secretary Elizabeth L. Dibble 6242 202-647-7170
Deputy Assistant Secretary Robert Godec 6242 202-647-0554
Deputy Assistant Secretary J. Scott Carpenter 6242 202-647-7168
Staff Assistant Aimee Cutrona 6242 202-647-7215
Staff Assistant Ann Donick 6242 202-647-7216
Senior Advisor C. King Mallory 6242 202-647-4148
OMS DAS Gray Suzanne Swanson 6242 202-647-7166
Staff Assistant Amy Tachco 6242 202-647-7215
Office of Egypt and Levant Affairs (NEA/ELA)
Director Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley 5250 202-647-2670
Deputy Director Stephanie Williams 5250 202-647-6352
Office of Arabian Peninsula and Iran Affairs (NEA/ARPI)
Director Alan G. Misenheimer 4224 202-647-6184
Office of Israel and Palestinian Affairs (NEA/IPA)
Director Thomas Williams 6251 202-647-3672
Deputy Director Nicole Shampaine 6251 202-647-4580
Senior Political Officer Matthew Rosenstock 6251 202-647-1481
Office of Press and Public Diplomacy (NEA/PPD)
Director Alberto Fernandez SA4 202-776-8860
Office of Regional Affairs (NEA/RA)
Director Gerald Feierstein 5256 202-647-1427
Deputy Director Stephen R. Fox 5256 202-647-4505
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.....Or the leader of Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, founded by Iranian Revolutionary Guard?..

.....at the time of the "invitation", Bush was seeking ways to win in Iraq....The Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq ....was seen at the time as a possible ally in toppling Saddaam....

"Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI)
Supreme Assembly for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq
Al-Majlis al-Al'a lil-Thawra al-Islamiyya fi al-'Iraq Official Site



Orientation
National Islamist Opposition Group.



Platform
Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq is the main vehicle for Shi'a opposition to Saddam Hussein, with cells operating secretly in Southern Iraq. It has approximately 8,000 guerrilla fighters. Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq seems to welcome outside military intervention to topple Saddam Hussein's regime.



Leadership
Led by Mohammed Baqr Hakim.



Funding
Funded by Iran. "


......Of course..."funded by Iran" should have raised alarms......but at the time , it did not...

Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (NEA)
Assistant Secretary
Assistant Secretary C. David Welch 6242 202-647-7209
Personal Assistant Sandy Grigola 6242 202-647-7209
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary Jim Jeffrey
6242
202-647-7207
Deputy Assistant Secretary Gordon Gray 6242 202-647-7166
Deputy Assistant Secretary Robert M. Danin 6242 202-647-7170
Deputy Assistant Secretary Elizabeth L. Dibble 6242 202-647-7170
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Director Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley 5250 202-647-2670
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Policy/Military Adviser David Jesmer 5253 202-647-1552
Senior Adviser for Science and Technology Charles
A. Lawson 5256
202-647-3691
Officer-in-Charge Multinational Force and Observers
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202-647-1766

"Or about the fact that Cheney (allegedly) finances Syrian Muslim Brotherhood -- as well as Iranian Sunni terrorist groups?

Posted by: Nikolay "


.....you are correct, it is a fact that it was alledged......but there is not any evidence of it...I could alledge the moon is made of green cheese....and it would be a fact that I alledged it....


Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:38 AM

"if they had accepted the invitation, Bush may have learned a little more about the hate Muslims have for America"
What do you mean, "if they had accepted"? They _had_ accepted. The head of the Iraqi branch of Muslim Brotherhood is Iraqi VP, he met Bush in the White House last December and was praised by Bush for his "commitment to peace" etc.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/12/20061212-2.html

"Bush was seeking ways to win in Iraq....The Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq ....was seen at the time as a possible ally in toppling Saddaam"
Hey, the last time his eminence Al-Hakim visited White House was also last December. He's supposed to be "moderate" for some mysterious reason.
Anyway, you're right, Bush saw SCIRI as an ally against Saddam, because what's better to do after 9/11 than to let Islamic Revolution flourish all over the Middle East.

BTW, Assad in Syria is most likely a weak player with generally good intentions, but small powers.
With thoughtful attitude and smart politics you could make Syria stop support Hezbollah and Hamas and, in fact, make it "an ally in the war on terror", as it, for a short period after 9/11, was -- so talking to Assad makes _much more_ sense than conquering Iraq in the name of Islam the way Bush did. In fact, if you're speaking about "dhimmitude", you just can't imagine more effective "dhimmi" than Bush.

"you are correct, it is a fact that it was alledged......but there is not any evidence of it...I could alledge the moon is made of green cheese....and it would be a fact that I alledged it"
Well, there are many sources that tell the same story. You could allege that the moon is made of green cheese or that Democrats invited Muslim Brotherhood to Congress, indeed, you could.
Anyway, there are, besides allegations, some facts, such as appearance of Sunni terrorist on Voice of America Iran just after he took responsibility for another terrorist act.
The fact that MEK, a terrorist organization that supported takeover of embassy in Tehran, is responsible for countless murders in Iran and helped Saddam commit his atrocities in 1991 is now protected by Americans in Iraq despite the fact that the government wants it gone, is also beyond dispute.

Posted by: Nikolay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:46 AM

...Bush was practicising Islam..Offer them the chance to surrender....(just before the head is cut off)...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:54 AM

Joe Schmoe USA,
Great! Welcome aboard and spread the word. My apologies, I’m just hyper suspicious these days.

Allahfanculo, “my girlfriend is pissed I am at the computer so much.”
Yeah, I get that all the time, islamists, islamists, islamists, we used to have fun together laugh together, ok so I will try to vary the conversation and have some fun.

Nikolay,
Don’t ask us no questions and we won’t tell you no lies. Did you realize you are at JW not BDSW? Do you think Bush/Cheney brought down the towers as well?

exsgtbrown,
Smart, very smart.


Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:25 AM

"Did you realize you are at JW not BDSW? Do you think Bush/Cheney brought down the towers as well?"
No, why?
I'm not talking about conspiracy theories. Do you consider sites like whitehouse.gov or hotair.com
( http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/03/abc-news-us-hookin-up-with-pakistani-terrorists-to-target-iran/ )
conspiracy-peddlers?

If the site is called JW, why is unsubstantial rumor about Democrats a good subject, while well-documented Bush's support to jihadists (guided by whatever fantastic ideas about "freedom and democracy") is BDS not worth your time? Don't you care about jihadists?

Posted by: Nikolay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:09 PM

They come to visit the Pres. and he makes like he is a friend. On the other hand the islamocrats go to visit them, pray with them, and wear their attire. I’m sorry did I miss the part where peloshia was appointed Sec State? ABC? Hello, the enemy is not the place to get your news.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:22 PM

“Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”


Dear God,

Please grant them their highest hope.

Amen

Posted by: Ynkedoodl [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 12:34 PM

Jimmy Bones: "Time for a 10-million man & woman march."

Yes. Count me in.


Posted by: kozanne [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:05 PM

"guided by whatever fantastic ideas about "freedom and democracy"


....actually, I like the idea of freedom and democracy....and I think they are fantastic ideas...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:08 PM

"Do you consider sites like whitehouse.gov or hotair.com "

....sometimes, when I am depressed and I need a good laugh...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:11 PM

"On the other hand the islamocrats go to visit them, pray with them, and wear their attire."
You mean like this?
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/23/xin_180502230902240008739.jpg
"actually, I like the idea of freedom and democracy....and I think they are fantastic ideas"
Great. So, in case you didn't notice, Hamas is democratically elected government of Palestine. Let's all be friends with them.
If you would have free elections in Egypt, you would probably have that country ruled by Muslim Brotherhood. Or how about some democracy in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan?
You know, "freedom, democracy, Allah Akbar, long live bin Laden!"
That's the way it goes, and that's the way it went in Iraq.

Posted by: Nikolay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 1:18 PM

DEMOCRACY---. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system


....if all the voters are wacko...then you get a wacko democracy....supported by wacko people....Islamic democracies and western democracies share only the word democracy....nothing else....

Democracies are controlled by the voters....you could say a democracy is a govenment is controlled by mob rule....as is often the case...


THe United States is not really a Democracy, It is a Republic.


"What is the difference between a Democracy and a Republic?
By: Micheal Badarik
Almost ALL of the social problems in this country are derived from the fact that Americans don't even know what
kind of government they have! If you are like most people, you think that the United States is a democracy. If you
do, then you are wrong!
Recite the pledge of allegiance. Notice that it says "...and to the republic for which it stands." Now open your copy
of the constitution to Article IV, Section 4. (You do have a copy of the constitution, don't you?) It says, "The
United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."
So what? We live in a republic. What difference does it make?
It makes all the difference in the world. In a democracy the "majority rules" - and the minority loses. A
hypothetical example can demonstrate the idea. Pretend that you're a land owner, and that I would like to buy some
of your property. You don't want to sell this property because it's been in your family for several generations. In a
democracy, I could gather a dozen other land owners together, proposing that we divide your land between us. We
will allow you to vote on the proposition, because this IS a democracy after all -- and you will lose thirteen to one.
That's a democracy!
In a republic, nothing can outvote your individual rights! They are unalienable. If the land belongs to you it doesn't
matter if I have a hundred friends, a thousand friends, or a hundred thousand friends! YOUR PROPERTY IS
YOUR PROPERTY! It is the government's fiduciary responsibility to protect your rights. If you are in doubt, read
your copy of the Declaration of Independence. Right after "...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" it says,
"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of
the governed".
Hypothetical examples are fine for illustrating a concept, but real life examples are much better for driving the
point home:
During the recent Million Mom March in Washington D.C. an angry speaker asked the crowd why government
should pass additional gun control laws. The crowd responded "Because we SAID SO, that's why!" This is
democracy in action. The idea that enough people can vote to take away your rights. What if you belonged to a
very small church like the Branch Dividians? Could enough people vote to deprive you of your religion? Or do
your individual rights outweigh the will of the majority?
Everybody hates taxes and the IRS. How did the IRS get started, anyway? In the early 1900's someone proposed a
tax on the richest people in the United States. "Only the top two percent of the people" would be affected we were
told. Since ninety-eight percent of the people weren't affected, they voted to screw their fellow citizens. This is
democracy in action. It's obvious that the "taxpayer" category has been greatly expanded. Now everybody is
affected..
Every day more and more people go on welfare. The government gives them money which it has taken from you in
taxes. Since a majority of people in this country already get some kind of aid from the government, do they have
the right to vote for more of your paycheck? If so, how much can they take? Fifty percent? Seventy five percent?
One hundred percent? This is democracy in action. At this point, wouldn't it be easier for people who were still
working to just go on welfare? If everybody is on welfare, there wouldn't be anyone left to tax, and the system
would collapse. This is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union.
These are just a few examples of the evils of democracy. Our founding fathers abhored a democracy, calling it a
"tyranny of the majority". Sooner or later you will realize that you have no individual rights in a democracy!
WAKE UP, AMERICA! Read the Declaration of Independence, and start studying the constitution. Abraham
Lincoln said, "We the people are the rightful masters of Congress and the courts. Not to overthrow the
Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution."
The Difference between a Republic and a Democracy
It is important for people to realize that the problems in the United States, both domestically and internationally,
are caused by socialistic, communistic and fascistic ideologies. During the course of the development of the federal
government communist and socialist from abroad infiltrated key positions. This document is meant to show you,
the reader, that in order for there to be Individual Liberty and Freedom in the world America must return to its'
founding principals and remove the socialist/communist agenda and influence from this "land of the Free" and
eventually from the entire world.
Constitution for the United States of America, Article IV Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every
State in this Union a Republican Form of Government
The united States was founded upon the principles of a Constitutional Republic. As the Constitution states we are
guaranteed a Republican form of government. The nation is NOT a democracy or a democratic republic and we
should demand that our leaders stop referring to the United States as such. The United States should be spreading
"Constitutional Republicanism" throughout the world not democracy.
What is the difference between a democracy and a republic?
"Republic. A commonwealth; that form of government in which the administration of affairs is open to all the
citizens. In another sense, it signifies the state, independently of its government." - Black's Law Dictionary 3rd Ed.
p1536.
Republic, Authority is derived through the election, by the people, of public officials best fitted to represent them.
Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude
toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict
regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
Avoids the dangers of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment
and progress. - U. S. Army training manual, 1928
"Democracy, a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any form of direct
expression, which results in mob-ocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic, negating property rights.
Attitude towards the law is that the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by
passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license,
agitation, discontent, and anarchy." - U. S. Army training manual, 1928.
What does that mean? Most people have been taught that the state is the government. But here Blacks Law
Dictionary says the state is independent from the government. In another place we find the word republic defined:
"A state or nation in which the supreme power rests in all the citizens... A state or nation with a president as its
titular head; distinguished from monarchy."
In this definition we see again that the supreme power is in the hands of the citizen who is entitled to vote. The
representatives are in charge of administrating the affairs of government. In the second definition it states that the
singular executive is titular. Titular is defined as, "existing in title or name only".
Before we go farther it should be understood that in a republic a Freeman was free from civil authority. The word
republic was used in the Constitution because the Founders and separatists of the time knew its origins. It is a
shortened form of the Latin idiom "Libera res Publica" meaning "free from things public." The heads of the
government were "titular" in authority, meaning they held authority "in name only." In an indirect democracy the
mob (majority) elects those that govern the whole, while in a republic elected representatives wield limited
authority and they may not make laws except by the will of the people.
Samuel Adams stated, on August 1, 1776 within one month of the signing of the Declaration of Independence:
"Our Union is complete; our constitution composed, established, and approved. You are now the guardians of your
own liberties. We may justly address you, as the decemviri did the Romans, and say: `Nothing that we propose can
pass into law without your consent. Be yourself, O Americans, the authors of those laws on which your happiness
depends.'"
The People are Sovereign
The sovereignty of a state does not reside in the persons who fill the different departments of its government, but in
the People, from whom the government emanated; and only the People may change it at their discretion.
Sovereignty, then, in this country, abides with the constituency, and not with the agent; and this remark is true,
both in reference to the federal and state government."
"The United States government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state." 153 In re Merriam, 36 N.E. 505,
141 N.Y. 479, affirmed 16 S. Ct. 1073, 163 U.S. 625, 41 L.Ed 287; 20 CJS, Section 1785.
People of a state are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his prerogative. - Lansing v.
Smith, 21 D. 89
Today the government is referenced as the United States Federal Democracy even though at the beginnings of
government the word Republic was the title most sought and most used. Is there a difference? Of course there is.
Everyone has seen the results of democracy:
1. The decline of morality
2. The decline of individual liberty
3. The demagoguery of political candidates
4. The license and disregard for the law that is evidenced daily by government officials
5. The discontent of the people for the political process
6. The abuses of federal agencies and bureaucracies against citizens
Simply stated the differences between a republican and democratic form of government are:
In a Democracy, the will of the majority outweighs the will of the few, or of the individual.
In a Republic, the will of the individual outweighs the will of the few, or of the majority.
In a Republic, the government cannot force you to give them anything that the Constitution does not give them the
power to take.
In a Democracy, the government can take away anything that the "masses" decide is legitimate to remove.
A Republic finances itself through legitimate taxes and fees that were specifically spelled out in its Constitution.
A Democracy finances itself through illegitimate licenses, fees, fines, and other statutory penalties, as well as
repressive progressive income taxes.
What exactly does this mean? It means that in a Democracy, whatever the masses decide is right or law, is right
and the law for "everyone". Regardless if you like it or not, even if it tramples your right to own property or
exercise your individual liberty. In a Republic, no individual or any majority or any group of people, no matter
how large can supercede the rights of any single individual citizen.
We must retake and reestablish our right to liberty, self-governance and Sovereignty before it is too late.
Definitions:
Democracy:
1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
Republic:
a. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
b. A nation that has such a political order.
c. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and
representatives responsible to them."