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April 13, 2007

Anti-Jihad Caucus

Here's some encouraging news. Bravo, Sue Myrick.

From Investor's Business Daily, with thanks to all who sent this in:

War On Terror: Maintaining a high level of vigilance against an enemy is wearisome business, especially in this war. We salute those who have not succumbed to 9/11 fatigue.

One tireless watchdog is Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., who earlier this year founded the Anti-Terrorism/Jihad Caucus to educate fellow lawmakers and Americans in general about the threat from militant Islam.

"The general public doesn't understand the threats we face from radical jihadists — who they are, what they want and what we can do about the threat," the feisty Myrick says on her Web site. "Americans are not being properly informed about the nature of the jihadist threat and their plans to do us harm."

This is an understatement. The media and academia have whitewashed jihad or ducked the issue entirely, petrified as they are of looking intolerant toward Muslims. Meantime, well-funded apologists such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations have gone on the offensive against the few critics who have spoken out, further confusing Americans about the gravity of the threat.

"The jihadists have become incredibly advanced in their public relations efforts," Myrick lamented. And we have limited tools to counteract their propaganda, thanks to institutionalized religious tolerance even for creeds hostile to our way of life.

The Anti-Jihad Caucus dares to right that imbalance. Its main goal is to educate members of Congress about the Islamic threat so they can talk candidly to their constituents about it. Myrick has already recruited more than 80 members to join her — including even some Democrats, such as Bud Cramer of Alabama and Ben Chandler of Kentucky.

"The group is currently learning about a variety of issues involving jihad, such as the history of Islam, the differences and similarities of Sunni and Shia Muslims, terrorist financing, terrorist use of the Internet, and terrorist infiltration techniques," Myrick said.

She has personally read numerous books on Islam and terrorism, as well as spoken to dozens of experts on the subject. Most striking in her own education, Myrick says, is discovering that jihad does not simply mean "internal struggle against sin," such as giving up smoking, as CAIR and other apologists have tried to sugarcoat it to mean.

Jihad, she says, is holy war against infidels. "It is the external jihad which should have everyone concerned," she said. "This jihad is used by groups like al-Qaida to justify killing innocent people they label 'infidels.' "

Posted by Robert at April 13, 2007 5:51 PM
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Another one bites the jihadust.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 5:55 PM

Keep track of who joins, and who does not. Reward the former, punish the latter.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 5:57 PM


And amazingly the 9/11 conspiracy nuts still never want to use a CBC Documentary video where
one of the Hijackers is at a Birthday party and also praises his up-coming mission of Jihad for Allah , this video was found after raids in Germany where a terror-cell met to plot the attack
but not all were given full details like the Pilots had received.

CAIR tied to deny 9/11 as being linked to Islam and Muslims, but when it became obvious there was a link CAIR revert to the pullback position of admitting it but qualifying it with "They aren't TRUE Muslims" and did an Un-Islamic act.

So far, CAIR/CAIR-Canada have yet to make a blanket condemnation of the actual Terrorists
actions as Muslims, all we get is that CAIR is against any violence of killing of Innocent Civilians , note....all non-Muslims according to Muhammed are at war with islam and Allah , ergo..they are not Innocent Civilians as described in the Quran.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:05 PM

Best news on the domestic front since I first visited this website.

Posted by: JSobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:11 PM

The reason the American public is not be told the real threat is 2 reasons:

First and most important to those seeking Hillary Obama for prez is if there is no threat, then Iraq is not worth the effort and those on the right and left implement part two which is: America leaves and a new strong man seizes power and all that oil money goes back into the international banking mafia's accounts.

Second, George Bush from day one has been told to downplay the threat as the reality would have ended the airline industry, caused New York City to grind to a halt and the entire economy would go into depression mode.

The UN, Clinton, Marc Rich oil from Saddam bribery scandal should have had most of the rich powerful people in this world in prison.
The American people would panic if they knew bin Laden still has nuclear devices, the French had refined tons of weapons grade uranium out of Nigeria for the Middle East, Iran has at least 4 nuclear warheads out of the Soviet Union and bin Laden still has dirty and atomic weapons.

This is the reality of President Bush protecting Americans and Americans turning on him in ignorance.
I hope that Rep. Myrick starts actually exposing all of this and doesn't end up like Vince Foster the Clinton bag man, because every time other Congressional people have even hinted at this they have been branded nuts by the media who has access to the same intel reports and knows exactly what is going on.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:18 PM

I'm tired
Sick and tired of them all
I've had my fill of them all
I just want to go to the mall
without ending up in a ball

Tired, tired of being admired
Tired of love uninspired
Let's face it
I'm tired

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:28 PM

Yes good news indeed!! I've been e-mailling my congressman, I can't wait to see what she does.

Posted by: pvb [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:37 PM

"[quote]One tireless watchdog is Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., ....
Myrick has already recruited more than 80 members to join her — including even some Democrats, such as Bud Cramer of Alabama and Ben Chandler of Kentucky.[/quote]

Thank God for the Confederate State citizens' Common Sense and virtues. The USA would be nowhere today if not for them.

God Bless Texas!

Posted by: HardBody [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:39 PM

Now all we have to do is wait about another five years and thousands more dead around the world for another revelation.

Who knows maybe these "revelations" breaching into the upper powers it may only take about two or three years.Of course the lawyers and whatnot will have to cat fight over the wording.

Why can't it just plainly be " Islam is a murderous,hypocritical,racist and genocidal "religion"that needs to be banned and shunned in every corner of the world except that that is thier own hell holes?"

No matter more awaken.Still groggy and dazed but they are waking up.

I think a lot of the major problem is that people forget we were attacked and that there are next to zero muslims that protest over thier "hijacked religion" and it's actors.

I can see people like our military personal giving thier all to protect our home land,but why is it again they and the rest of us are supposed to die for ingrates when they wish not to contribute for fear of death? Makes no sense.

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:43 PM

I’ve seen them on the Military Channel, if they are combined units and a firefight breaks out they lay on the ground in the fetal position and wont get up and fight even when an American yells at them or kicks them saying get up and fight for your life! Do they follow orders, no they still remain in the fetal position hiding from the enemy huddled together. Imagine that, them who think mummy is only worth half a man. No wonder we have trouble fighting with or against them, a bunch of babies who can’t shoot straight, nothing more, never will be.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 6:57 PM

Right, Sue, the public does not understand the threat we face because our leaders do not speak frankly about it, assuming they have made the effort to enlighten themselves. I'm happy to see that you're an exception.
After you take out the PC, the fear and the ignorance, there's not much left. Nevertheless, events can explain things; the frequent association of Islam and violence in the news is instructive. Welcome aboard!

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:01 PM

*ahem*

Freakin' FINALLY! Gee Congress, it only took you FIVE AND A HALF YEARS since 9/11 to figure this out. You guys is a smarts.

Posted by: Professor PyroSkank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:10 PM

“Anti-Terrorism/Jihad Caucus”
I would love to know the names of the rest of these American patriots, therefore I could make an effort to support them, anyone up on that?

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:10 PM

On the Dubai port deal Myrick wrote...

"In regards to selling American ports to the United Arab Emirates, not just NO-but HELL NO!".

(See: ttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185767,00.html)

Yes! This woman is our future Thatcher!

Soon the cream will rise to the top and the REAL leaders will emerge. Keep the faith and Long live the Republic!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:16 PM

She said not wrote but it will be in a history book one day so remember the phrase "not just NO-but HELL NO!"

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:20 PM

Wait I am wrong again she did write it! In a letter to George W. Bush!

Ladies and Gentlemen please click in the link below (Please note it is a PDF file so you adobe reader to see it).

http://myrick.house.gov/letter%20to%20President%20UAE%20ports.PDF

God this woman is a dream come true! A true leader not some Bush tool but a real GOP leader.

Also her site is..

http://myrick.house.gov/

enjoy!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:27 PM

Who remembers the liberal lie spoken so often after 911? The one that says “I may not like what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it?
Well the anti American/anti Semite caucus (leftards) are attempting to destroy free speech. Speech just like what the congresswoman is using. Free speech is their greatest foe. Some people right here among us in the USA can’t handle freedom, and so they should be given a ride on jcom972’s flight to nowhere.

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/The_Crimes_of_Al_Sharpton.pdf

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:28 PM

The ball rolls slowly but it is rolling nevertheless...you go Ms. Myrick.

Posted by: Buddy [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:29 PM

This is wonderful.

When will this caucus take a training session given by Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald? They *might* be open to that.

Once the the tipping point is reached, there will be no going back. It's just getting to it (with the clock ticking) that's been so frustrating to us JW'ers. When it does happen, I believe it will be just gargantuan.

Posted by: WestwardHo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:35 PM


Mr Spencer - Alert

It is not on the wires yet - but will be soon.

Sudden Jihad Syndrome in Switzerland?

Swiss soldier of Iraqi origin but brought up in Switzerland, has gone on a shooting rampage using a service rifle. One dead and several injured.

http://www.20min.ch/news/schweiz/story/15586039

The Swiss are totally befuddled as to why a Swiss soldier (Iraqi origin - Muslim?), grew up in Switzerland, accepted in Switzerland with all the benefits that Switzerland can bestow, suddenly did this act. They are confused, totally confused. No idea, none whatever, nada, zilch.

I have no English news links at the moment.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:48 PM

“When I saw the first tower cascade down into that enormous plume of dust and paper, there was a little voice inside me that said, ‘Yeah!’ When the second tower came down the same way, that little voice said, ‘Beautiful!’ When the visage of the Pentagon appeared on the TV with a gaping and smoking hole in its side, that little voice had nearly taken me over, and I felt an urge to pump my fist in the air,” Mr. Potvin wrote in the editorial.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f6edd8aa-0739-4197-b4c4-67a170f45a3c\
Do we wait for scum like this to kill us all? Don’t they have honken hungry Grizzlies in Canada any more? They used to, I have a relative that killed a huge one not too many decades ago. I still have the head, its scary even today.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25118_Vancouver_Green_Candidate-_9-11_Was_Beautiful&only
I know, I know some of you say, what the heck are your people everywhere…yep. And we have a little voice of our own.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:53 PM

The News Hour on PBS had a segment tonight pushing moderate Islam among young Americans. One teen age girl started wearing a head carving and got her mom to do so as well.

Her mom was from Syria and had not worn head covering in Syria or in the US until her daughter got her started.

This segment also covered the Muslim Student Association MSA. These people are either naturals or well trained. Anyone underestimating them will end up like the Eastern Roman Empire.

Virgil Goode Right: Stop Muslim Immigration

Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 7:55 PM

In fact, a course for Congress on Jihad should be planned and scheduled by our fearless leaders Robert and Hugh - because "If you book them, they will come".

Then, if enough of *us* contact our congressmen, imploring they take it, this nascent caucus will eventually invite Robert and Hugh (and Greg), whom they should know and consult on this topic in the coming years and decades.

Posted by: WestwardHo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:00 PM

First English lang news of Swiss SJS

Baden, Switzerland - A man was killed and three others injured after a gunman opened fire in a hotel in Baden in the Swiss canton of Aargau, police said Friday.

In the attack late Thursday evening, the gunman reportedly fired at random with an assault rifle before he was arrested.

Police are expected to release more details later Friday. - Sapa-dpa

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_World&set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20070413102237666C103592

Reporta are only just coming in.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:03 PM

Nice job Ms. Myric; here’s her press release. She sounds tough.

http://www.house.gov/list/press/nc09_myrick/terrorcaucus013007.html

One bone of contention, her statement:

"The jihadists have become incredibly advanced in their public relations efforts,"

should be changed to:

“The jihadists are incredibly well-funded in their public relations efforts”

The statement from the Ohio CAIR spokesman that the Al Qaida militant had to be OK because they were friends was a beauty.

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:03 PM

Keep track of who joins, and who does not. Reward the former, punish the latter.

Posted by: Hugh


Are you and Robert in touch with her?

She also needs to hang with Hirsi Ali and Bigitte Gabriel and Walit Shoeblat. And a few whose names escape me at this moment.

Best news I've had in years!

Draft her for President '08 - BEFORE it's too late!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:21 PM

Radical Jihadists?

Anybody in here who can show me a liberal Jihadist, a moderate Jihadist, or a conservative Jihadist?

Daniel Piper and my close personal freind Hugh Hewitt notwithstanding, of course.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:24 PM

Re. the Jihadist killing those "big bad Swiss".. Swiss media reports the reasons are still not clear.. Sad story but that makes me laugh. I mean.. C'**MON** already!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:24 PM

This is very good news. The effects will probably be unspectacular, but all to the good, and lasting. That is what's needed: some kind of influence and educative effort with staying power.

Sue Myrick is a very safe incumbent, and at 65 not too old. For a legislator, that's a good age. She has time, and she can matter. Her record is right wing conservative, but to the middle, not on the fringe. (link) It doesn't look to me like she's had any special cause till now that's her own, even though she's qualified to matter, if I can put it that way.

This is going to be a major part of her political legacy. She built a caucus that addressed a vital concern that till now was being dealt with in a less than ideal and rather thoughtless way. (The ports deal, where George W. Bush seemingly had no idea anybody might be troubled by that, is an example of political thoughtlessness.)

That's a good legacy, and she has the stuff to build and burnish it at her leisure. Good. Very good.

Posted by: David Blue [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:39 PM

EDITORIAL

U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick

Understanding The True Nature of Terrorism

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Anti-Terrorism/Jihad Caucus

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:45 PM

«Thank God the perp ran out of ammo»

Beim Amoklauf mit dem Sturmgewehr in der Pizzeria La Cappella in Baden AG sind ein 71-jähriger Mann getötet und vier Personen verletzt worden. Die Aargauer Kantonspolizei sprach von grossem Glück, dass es nicht zu einer noch grösseren Katastrophe kam.


A 71yo man was killed and four other persons were wounded during a suicide run with an attack rifle in the Pizzeria "La Capella" [which means chapel] in Baden AG. Police were speaking of great fortune that it didn't amount to an even greater catastrophe.

Beim verhafteten Täter handelt es sich um einen 26-jährigen Schweizer mit Irakischen Wurzeln. Der Amokschütze feuerte mit einem Sturmgewehr der Schweizer Armee um 21.40 Uhr vor und im Hotel «La Cappella» wahllos um sich, wie Urs Winzenried, Kripochef der Aargauer Kantonspolizei, am Freitag an einer Medienkonferenz in Aarau sagte.


The perp who was arrested [too bad - he should have been shot IMHO] is a 26 yo Swiss Man with Iraqi roots. [sic - I am only translating this..] The suicde shooter was using an attack rifle form the Swiss Army at 9.40 PM in front of and inside the Hotel "La Capella". [...]

Völlig unvermittelt geschossen

Completely unannounced shoting [Kids - I am not making this up]

Vor dem Hotel schoss der Täter völlig unvermittelt auf zwei Jugendliche im Alter von 15 und 16 Jahren, teilte die Kapo Aargau weiter mit. Der 16-jährige befindet sich in kritischem Zustand. Er hatte mindestens zwei Bauchdurchschüsse und schwerste Verletzungen erlitten. Der 15-Jährige erlitt einen Oberarmdurchschuss und einen Streifschuss am Bauch.


In front of the htel the perp began to shoot two teenagers ages 15 and 16 completely without warning. [A true brave jihadist warrior of illah]

[.. description of wounds and injuries]

Trotz Bauchdurchschuss ins Spital gefahren

Der Täter begab sich danach in die Hotelbar, und schoss wahllos um sich. Der 71-Jährige, ein unbeteiligter Gast des Hotels und Restaurants, war sofort tot. Er wurde von insgesamt vier Schüssen in den Kopf sowie in den Oberkörper und die Beine getroffen. Zwei weitere Männer im Alter von 50 und 54 Jahren, die an der Bar sassen, wurden ebenfalls getroffen. Der 50-jähriger Mann war mit einem Bauchdurchschuss selbst ins Spital gefahren. Der der 59-Jährige kam mit Streifschüssen an Bauch und Oberarm davon.


The perp then entered the bar area and began shooting wildly. The 71yo victim was dead on the spot. Two men 50 and 54 yo were also shot [.. desc. of injuries]
[From the description these rifles shoot quite a few rounds FAST]

Täter und Opfer aus dem Raum Baden


Perp and victims both from area Baden

Beim Täter handelt es sich um einen 26-jährigen Schweizer Bürger irakischer Herkunft. Er ist in der Schweiz aufgewachsen und hier zur Schule gegangen. Täter und Opfer stammten aus dem Grossraum Baden. Der Täter wurde von Winzenried als intelligenter Mann geschildert, der als Bankangestellter in Zürich arbeitet. Er hatte für den Amoklauf seine persönliche Armeewaffe verwendet, ein Sturmgewehr 90. Die Hintergründe der Tat sind noch unklar. Der 26-Jährige war der Polizei aber bekannt. Vor einigen Tagen wurde die Polizei wegen häuslicher Gewalt vorstellig. Es handelte sich dabei allerdings um eine «nicht gravierende» Form von Gewalt, teilte die Polizei mit.


The perp is a 26 yo Swiss man of iraqi background. [LOL!!! SWISS??!!!!] He grew up in Switzerland [among well-meaning fools] and went to schol here. Perp and victims both came from the area of Baden. The perp was described by W. as an intelligent man, who is working [what? still working?] as a bank clerk in Zürich. He had used a personal issue army weapon, an "Attack Rifle 90". The background for the violence is still unclear. [LOL LOL LOL.. The dead haven't been buried yet and the media are already cleaning up the true reasons]. The 26-yo had been known to police, however for domestic violence [Oh, *really*??!! HOW could any of us have guessed that one!] Just a few days ago police had contacted the man at homne regarding domestic violence. But it wasn't a "very severe" form of violence, the police stated. [God, help us.. with police like these..]

Keine Serienschüsse


no rapid-fire [ damn, the bar shooting scene sure suggests otherwise]

Winzenried sprach von grossem Glück, «dass nicht eine noch grössere Katastrophe passiert ist» und der Schütze nicht mehr als ein mit 20 Schüssen geladenes Magazin bei sich gehabt habe. Dem Täter sei in der Bar des Hotels die Munition ausgegangen. Das Sturmgewehr sei auf Einzel- nicht auf Serienschuss gestellt gewesen.


W. spoke of great luck that "a bigger catastrophe did not take place". as the shooter only had a 20-shot magazine with him. The perp ran out of ammo at the hotel bar. The rifle was set to single shot instead of double shot. [Next time, jihadists, don;t forget to bring more ammo and set your rifles properly - like good little Swiss jihadists]

Die Polizei hatte den Täter am Donnerstagabend um 21.55 Uhr überwältigt und verhaftet. Er sitzt in Untersuchungshaft. Die Meldung über den Amoklauf war gemäss Polizeiangaben um 21.46 Uhr bei der Einsatzzentrale eingegangen.


Police caught up to the perp at 9.55PM and he is now in confinement. [toilets facing mecca?] Police had been oinformed of the shooting run at 9.46PM. [those punctual Swiss]

Das Hotel und Restaurant «La Cappella», ehemals «Kappellerhof», liegt an der Bruggerstrasse im Westen der Stadt Baden.


[location description]

This is a cursory fast translation off the cuff. The one I made online is worse. So take your pick.

Horrible story. If we want to avoid further things like this... we have to speak honestly about the root cause.

islam.

How to avoid these things: NO more moslem immigration.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 8:53 PM

PS. I hope the Swiss jihadist eats halal and has a compass under his toilet so he can face Mecca while he does his thing.

Those Swiss are such nice loving and utterly gullible people.. So very much like their oft-confused-with namesakes the *Swedes*.

Europa!! AUF-WACH-EN!!!

How many more of these things do we want in our sleepy villages?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:01 PM

PS. I hope the Swiss jihadist eats halal and has a compass under his toilet so he can face Mecca while he does his thing.

Those Swiss are such nice loving and utterly gullible people.. So very much like their oft-confused-with namesakes the *Swedes*.

Europa!! AUF-WACH-EN!!!

How many more of these things do we want in our sleepy villages?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:01 PM

Just sent the following to Rep Myrick:

Dear Representative Myrick,
It was with great pleasure that I read of your efforts to educate the members of Congress and the American people on the threats and dangers we all face from Jihad.
Though not one of your constituents, please accept my heartfelt gratitude and congratulations on your initiative. Please relay my appreciation to the other 70 members of the caucus. May their ranks swell!
As a suggestion, please check out www.jihadwatch.com and www.dhimmiwatch.com, if you have not already done so. Robert Spencer is a national treasure, sorely underused, and has been toiling in these same fields for many years. He may be able to offer insights that will be useful to your efforts.
Again, my sincere thanks and good wishes to you. You have many supporters in the field.
Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXX

(email signed, but name witheld from blog)

Posted by: jhl952 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:14 PM

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f6edd8aa-0739-4197-b4c4-67a170f45a3c\
Do we wait for scum like this to kill us all? Don’t they have honken hungry Grizzlies in Canada any more? They used to, I have a relative that killed a huge one not too many decades ago. I still have the head, its scary even today.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25118_Vancouver_Green_Candidate-_9-11_Was_Beautiful&only
I know, I know some of you say, what the heck are your people everywhere…yep. And we have a little voice of our own.

Posted by: tgusa


That link is dead.. did you save the original text?
Sounds like something we should all read.

PBS - Palestinian Broadcasting System

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:15 PM

Kudos to the lady from my own home state. But the absolutely amazing thing, and something I just checked once again a minute ago - is that if you google the word "jihad", this site comes up second, after wiki. Please - what possible excuse is there for any educated person with internet access on the planet, let alone our own lawmakers, not to "get it" by now? There is simply no excuse.

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:30 PM

if you google the word "jihad", this site comes up second, after wiki. Please - what possible excuse is there for any educated person with internet access on the planet, let alone our own lawmakers, not to "get it" by now? There is simply no excuse.

Posted by: Caroline


Problem is - They all go to "wiki". The soft washed version of jihad is on display there. they trew me off wiki for putting up my version of jihad.. complete with quotes from the KKKoran.

So if the KKKoran is not the source book on jihad - WHAT is?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:33 PM

http://www.myrick.house.gov/
sign up for the news letter

Posted by: KAOSKTRL [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:44 PM

Jihad, she says, is holy war against infidels. "It is the external jihad which should have everyone concerned," she said. "This jihad is used by groups like al-Qaida to justify killing innocent people they label 'infidels.' "....could be true...they seem to kill those that don't submit....but who knows...doesn't Islam mean peace?

Posted by: storagemanager [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:50 PM

Virgil Goode is my name and I served on the Congress train
'Til Nancy's liberals came and tore up anti-jihad again
In the fall of '06, we lost the vote, were in a fix
By November seventh, Congress fell, it's a date I remember oh so well...
(Chorus)
The night they drove anti-jihad down, and all the muezzins were calling, they went..allahu akbar..allahu akbar....Ha Ha Ha
Back with my wife in North Carolina, one day she called to me:
Virgil, "Quick come see, there goes Robert Spencer, poor dhimmi!"
Now I don't mind choppin' wood, and I don't care if the money's no good.
Ya take what ya need and leave the rest,
But they should never have taken my dog, he was the best! (Chorus}
Like my father before me, I will work the land,
Like my brother above me, who took an Infidel stand,
He was just eighteen, proud and brave, but a jihadi laid him in his grave,
I swear by the mud below my feet,
You can't raise a Goode back up when he's in defeat (Chorus and fade)

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 9:53 PM

Allahfanculo: "Problem is - They all go to "wiki". The soft washed version of jihad is on display there."

Interesting factoid which I'd never checked before:

When you google "jihad" and come up with wiki as the first hit, you get: "Within the realms of Islamic jurisprudence, jihad usually refers to the struggle to evolve as a human being, to better yourself, while the lower jihad is ..."

So I followed that link to Wiki and lo and behold the source for that claim - which lands at the top of anyone googling the word "jihad" on the internet, goes to John Esposito. Perhaps that ought to make him public enemy #1 for the anti-jihad cause?

So Jihad USUALLY refers to the 'inner struggle' in Islamic jurisprudence? Is that so? Remote - come back (you know what I'm talking about). You may be a perfectionist but can you at least tackle the claim that in Islamic jurisprudence jihad USUALLY refers to "the struggle to evolve as a human being"? Because apparently as it stands now, that is the number one definition of "jihad" for anyone googling the word on the internet (and apparently too lazy to even click on the second most popular source for finding out about what jihad means, which is this site). That is a claim that needs to be thoroughly and completely trashed for the garbage that it is, beginning with widely exposing the fact that the claim is based on a weak hadith.

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:02 PM

PBS had a warmup on its Cross Roads series. This was a discussion group led by Robert MacNeil. Irshad Manji was part of the group.

I am going to try to keep an open mind about this and wait to see it. I hope Jihad Watch puts up threads each night so we can live blog while the shows are on.

MacNeil asked one of the group, who was the editor or coordinator, what criteria he used in selecting films for the final cut. It is difficult to not laugh and say he should have said PC, propaganda for Islam, doesn't tell the truth about Islam, doesn't say Muhammad pogromed Jews and made that a command of Allah, covers up that Muslim immigration is an invasion, etc.

However, I will keep an open mind, just as the editor of the series did.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:10 PM

Ditto to post above... this is the best news since coming to this site.

I just emailed my Congressman and a special email to Myrick. Both emails encourage caucus members to come to this website AND to invite Robert and Hugh to present to the caucus.

Posted by: Al E. Baba [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:29 PM

"So Jihad USUALLY refers to the 'inner struggle' in Islamic jurisprudence?"

It means that sometimes and means an 'outer struggle' against infidels at other times. Federal Bureau of Invetigation agents are taught in their sensitivity training classes that "jihad" always means an inner struggle. That is the official position of the U.S. government.

A crock IMHO. Agents should be taught both meanings. I mean the Muslims that are cause for concern would be the ones who follow the second definition. No?

Posted by: Brenda S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:32 PM

The citizens of the US would be better served if CAIR was no longer characterized as an apologist organization. They are on the front lines of jihad. D'Souza,etc. would be apologists, Hooper an others are jihadists working for the Disinformation Branch.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:34 PM

I just emailed my Congressman and a special email to Myrick. Both emails encourage caucus members to come to this website AND to invite Robert and Hugh to present to the caucus.
Posted by: Al E. Baba

Same here. This is not good news. It's great news!

Posted by: City Slicker from a Leftist State [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:35 PM

Finally, finally, something good coming out of The House of Reps. I wonder how loud Ellison will squawk. I predict he will attend some meetings and lodge a protest.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:41 PM

"For an example of using statistics, look at the question: what is the real jihad, the jihad of inner, spiritual struggle or the jihad of war? Let’s turn to Bukhari (the Hadith) for the answer, as he repeatedly speaks of jihad. In Bukhari 97% of the jihad references are about war and 3% are about the inner struggle. So the statistical answer is that jihad is 97% war and 3% inner struggle. Is jihad war? Yes—97%. Is jihad inner struggle? Yes—3%."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26769

So John Esposito's definition of jihad, which represents 3% of Bukhari, trumps Spencer's definition (well not actually Spencer's definition, but rather mainstream Islam's definition) of jihad, which comprises 97% of Bukhari?

And we are to believe that in Islamic jurisprudence, which relies so heavily on the ahadith, jihad "usually" refers to the inner struggle, as Esposito claims? (And it's not insignificant that he does so, considering that his take on jihad appears as the #1 google result for the word "jihad" on the internet).

This would seem to suggest that the jihad as "inner struggle" canard is THE number one myth about Islam that needs to be thoroughly debunked.

I know that this site goes about that task tirelessly every day. But is there a complete position paper of sorts, that simply leaves NO room for any sane person to doubt the facts of the matter any longer? The sort of thing that could be sent to Sue Myrick to aid her in her endeavors to educate her fellow lawmakers?

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:41 PM

Sorry folks,

While I applaud her effort, the execution is flawed. AFP noted an error in her thinking, but here is the full text of her editorial (linked by Old Atlantic above) in which I've highlighted the obvious problems:

Understanding The True Nature of Terrorism

My principle concern in this day and age of terrorism is: the general public doesn’t understand the threats we face from radical jihadists, who they are, what they want, and what we can do about the threat. Americans are not being properly informed about the nature of the jihadist threat and their plans to do us harm.

In fact, I believe one of the reasons the public does not know is because their elected officials do not know or understand the true nature and gravity of this threat.

As such, that’s why I initiated a new Congressional group called the Anti-Terrorism/Jihad Caucus; the purpose of which is to inform Members of Congress on the real threats of Islamic extremists, and particularly jihadist ideologues.

Joining me as co-chairs of this group are Representatives Bud Cramer (D-AL), Kay Granger (R-TX), and Ben Chandler (D-KY). Our focus is constant: we currently have more than 75 members from both parties. The full caucus meets twice a month for anti-terrorism experts to educate us about the threat facing our nation.

The group is currently learning about a variety of issues involving jihad such as the history of Islam, the differences and similarities of Sunni and Shia Muslims, terrorist financing, terrorist use of the internet, and terrorist infiltration techniques.

Members of Congress can take this information and make better policy and laws regarding terrorist threats. However, the main goal of this new group is to have the Members go home and talk to their constituents about these issues so Americans know what we face as a nation—thereby fostering a truly educated national dialogue on the nature of terrorism and how to combat it.

For the past year I have read numerous books and spoken to dozens of experts on terrorism. The first lesson I have learned is that we must understand that we are not simply at war with terrorism. We are at war with an enemy who preaches radical Islam, and perverts Islam’s tenets in practice. The enemy wants to create a world where freedom succumbs to the will of a tyrannical minority.

The jihadists have become incredibly advanced in their public relations efforts to recruit new followers and incite rage against the United States and other Western nations. Using the internet, anti-American media outlets, educational institutions and religious sermons, radical Islamists have gained a foothold among otherwise moderate Muslims in other countries as well as our own.

The term “jihad” means “struggle”. It is an important part of Islamic teaching and is part of the Koran. There are two types of jihad: internal and external. The internal jihad is the struggle for Muslims to live their lives according to Islamic law while facing life’s daily challenges. It is the external jihad which should have everyone, Muslim and non-Muslim, concerned. This jihad is used by groups like Al-Qaeda to justify killing innocent people they label “infidels”.

Over the next year, our goal is for Members to write editorials about what the experts are teaching us in our new anti-terrorism/jihad meetings and to bring an anti-terrorism/jihad conference to their districts so that all Americans can hear first hand about the threats we face.

Together we can learn more about this important issue, and together we can discuss how we confront it.

She states:

"In fact, I believe one of the reasons the public does not know is because their elected officials do not know or understand the true nature and gravity of this threat."

Unfortunately, her editorial makes that all too clear.

I will reword her editorial and send it to her, and my congressman, with a word of encouragement, and one of concern.



Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:42 PM

Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C. should be given every encouragment to speak out--freely and often!

Telling that she is a Republican (yes, if we have any hope it seems to be with them), and that she is from the South. 'Nuff said. My friends and I all sent her emails of thanks. She's great!

Posted by: Lace and hand grenades [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:50 PM

I have no words of encouragement for Rep. Sue, because she shouldn’t be. Like a JW poster once said, we are like in a “really really stupid nightmare.” We are fighting an ideology seeking "... a world in which generosity and imagination are despised and trampled on"-analyst Sergio Romano. We have to again confront a trend, started 1400 years ago by a ruthless savage of a primitive land, defined by the destruction of cultures, destruction of history, hatred of differences, intolerance to aberration, and entitling males satisfaction of lust and greed.

Islam has perverted God beyond belief, to the point it is no longer God, in any way, it worships. And we have seen its fruits! We have seen its fruits! Yet, we have fallen into the same habit of inaction that plagued the non-Muslim Middle Easterners of old (even up to 1900, when getting rid of Islam would have been very doable for them. Why else do you think they pump out babies like weapons are pumped out of weapons assembly plants?) We enjoy our easy-going lives, thinking the messes of the outside world will never come to us. But the ugliest messes of the world are fermenting at home, as clearly evidenced by events and facts in France and the UK. It is up to us, here and now, to decide whether we want to filter out the filth today, or MAKE major life-or-death surgery 30 years from now.

I am not going to wait like Bashir Gemayel to yell out to the UN assembly “We can no longer endure,” after the Muslim world quietly descended on the Lebanese Christians 30 years ago, and started committing acts that would make Iraq today look like a walk in the park. No, I’m not going to wait. I’m going to yell it now: WE CAN NO LONGER ENDURE! WE CAN NO LONGER ENDURE!


Rep. Sue must have asked herself: "Why do naive cultural relativists decide that they don't dare say that the islamitic culture is worse than our own, that the western culture based upon Christian Jewish and humanistic values is still the political agenda." Geert Wilgers

I thank Rep. Sue Myrick.

Comparison of violent passages in the Bible and the Quran:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Bible-Quran-Violence.htm

Posted by: ofcourse [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 10:57 PM

Good point PRCS, but at this point I am just thankful for any government official to speak out!

Posted by: Lace and hand grenades [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:01 PM

Allahfanculo,
Green candidate stands by remarks praising 9/11
'Beautiful'
Katie Rook, National Post
Published: Friday, April 13, 2007
A federal Green party candidate in Vancouver-Kingsway is standing behind a controversial editorial he wrote more than four years ago in which he describes the falling of the World Trade Center twin towers as "beautiful."

The editorial, entitled, A Revolting Confession, was first published on Nov. 28, 2002 in an alternative newspaper, The Republic of East Vancouver, which Kevin Potvin founded.

"When I saw the first tower cascade down into that enormous plume of dust and paper, there was a little voice inside me that said, 'Yeah!' When the second tower came down the same way, that little voice said, 'Beautiful!' When the visage of the Pentagon appeared on the TV with a gaping and smoking hole in its side, that little voice had nearly taken me over, and I felt an urge to pump my fist in the air," Mr. Potvin wrote in the editorial.

The 44-year-old bookstore owner, who ran for municipal office in Vancouver in 2005, said he at first withheld the editorial, publishing it only after he was approached by others who felt the same way.

"This is a revolting confession," he wrote. "But it's what happened."

He continued: "I know lots of people were killed. But then again, I see lots of people getting killed whenever I turn the TV news on, and frankly, it doesn't really get to me any more....

"Let's face facts. If the news on the morning of September 11 was that 3,000 Tanzanians or Burmese had been killed, they wouldn't have broken in on regularly scheduled programming, or cancelled football games, and there'd be no conversation about it the next day."

Mr. Potvin said in a telephone interview last night that he is now skeptical that the events of 9/11 were entirely the work of terrorists.

"I have no idea what happened on that day, but it's certainly not the story that Washington propagates."

Mr. Potvin, who was recently acclaimed as a Green party candidate, is today meeting with voters to discuss "9/11 truth and its implications for Canadian foreign policy" at a downtown Vancouver cafe.

The Green party could not be reached for comment last night.

Krook@nationalpost.com

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:06 PM

Anyone in Canada that knows this filthy rat, please drop in and visit it. But be nice no head chopping with a chainsaw or anything like that.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:11 PM

'"The group is currently learning about a variety of issues involving jihad, such as the history of Islam, the differences and similarities of Sunni and Shia Muslims, ...," Myrick said.'

Exactly what our educational system should be teaching but is not.

With our institutions failing us, it's good to hear the rare positive news.

Here's to Sue. You go girl!

Posted by: LoneRanger [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:14 PM

Lace,

Yes, we want her to speak out.

Factually and without sugar coating.

As I said, I'll reword her editorial and send it to her.

The goal is to politely help her understand the facts as they really are, so that she and each member of her caucus can accurately explain the situation to their constituents.

Perpetuating the myth that 'radical Islamists' are 'perverting Islam's tenets' is, ultimately, a disservice to our fellow citizens.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:15 PM

I will reword her editorial and send it to her, and my congressman, with a word of encouragement, and one of concern.


Posted by: PRCS


I think you're being a bit hard on her. She's the first to stick her neck out. So she sticks in some meaningless soft-PC wordings to soften the possible responses that will inevitably come.

I prefer to judge her by that letter she sent on official stationery to Dhimya himself:

re. Dubai Ports world:
"Not just NO - But HELL NO!"

That's pretty damn good in my book!

http://myrick.house.gov/letter%20to%20President%20UAE%20ports.PDF

courtesy of GreatComet

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:15 PM

Lace,

Have to agree with you. Sue Myrick represents the 9th district in North Carolina which is my old stomping grounds. She is the best thing to ever hit the 9th district. She worked like a Trojan (for 8 years!) to bring an "immigration court" to Charlotte.

The purpose of the court is to speed up illegal alien deportations and handle other immigration matters directly from within N.C. Needless to say that probably did not set well with Jorge Boosh nor the DOJ. But she did it! The court will open towards the end of this year.

We need more like her.

Posted by: Delta Force [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:24 PM

Green party, hey whalers you are in international waters and they are modern day pirates so have at it.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:25 PM

Perpetuating the myth that 'radical Islamists' are 'perverting Islam's tenets' is, ultimately, a disservice to our fellow citizens.

Posted by: PRCS


Taquiyya works both ways. Let's not stamp out this tender blossom before we see what fruit it may bear.

There will be enough assassination going on from the usual sources.. they first will try the "silence - death" campaign.

When that doesn;t work expect - sotto voce - "earnest condemnation".

Let us be only the last to throw stones.. frankly we need all the help we can get! This Lady has at least an open mind as of now. No need to close it back up with strident rhetoric!

Let's please LAY OFF the good side!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:26 PM

Allahfanculo,

Agreed. We should all keep in mind that she no doubt has some Muslim constituents too. Of course everyone here would like her to be completely accurate and even more direct. But I know politicians have to be 'delicate' at times. It is a start and a good one. She's smart and I trust her.

Posted by: Delta Force [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:30 PM

Thanks Delta. That she will be marked for a mud bath from c.a.i.r and others is a given. She deserves encouragement for what she may be about to endure. My husband was born in North Carolina. :)

Posted by: Lace and hand grenades [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:41 PM

Agreed. We should all keep in mind that she no doubt has some Muslim constituents too. Of course everyone here would like her to be completely accurate and even more direct. But I know politicians have to be 'delicate' at times. It is a start and a good one. She's smart and I trust her.

Posted by: Delta Force


Good I am glad I make sense to someone besides myself. She also has to deal with the lobbyisst and the flunkies - AND Dhimya, who happens to be President.

I didn;t even know about the eigfht yeras she put in fighting for the "immgration court" but this is a clear sign she isn't a fly-by-night.

I'm as cynical as they come but I know a ray of Hope when I see one. I always say there have to be SOME politicians who actually LOVE their country and their com-patriots who live there..

There have to be SOME who GET IT and who know that no matter how much money they manage to amass today.. all this will be worthless in a sharia court.

So I alwys keep hoing that an honest patriotic voice will arrive.. and failing that.. at least a logical one..

Sue Myrick may just be the former!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:41 PM

PRCS,

baby steps, bro, baby steps!!

Let her soften up the public, and her fellow congressmen/women, no doubt, first. It is a step in the right direction and that is what should matter the most. As some one else says, Taqiyya works both ways!! :)

Posted by: ThinkForYourself [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 13, 2007 11:45 PM

As some one else says, Taqiyya works both ways!! :)

Posted by: ThinkForYourself


Always thinking of ways to make warfare more symmetrical..
and always thinking of using everything that we have in our favour. :-)

Looks like we may be witness to a powerful new ally.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:05 AM

@tgusa

Thanks for the transcript. I appreciate that. What a dhimmi you outed there for us!

I don't know who I detest more.. the jihadists or the dhimmis who keep on enabling them.

Thanks again.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:38 AM

For those who think I'm being too hard on the congresswoman;

How do you know she doesn't actually believe that 'radical jihadists' are 'perverting Islam's tenets'?

One cannot know without asking.

I'm working on that letter this evening.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:44 AM

I forgot to mention the savage also brought us the trend of superstitious capital punishment. You know what I mean… oooou…touch an Arabic Quran infidel, and die! HA! HA! HA! Not funny to those who were killed by it, though; like “Muslim pupils beat teacher to death for desecrating Qur'an”:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/015757.php

Posted by: ofcourse [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:51 AM

As per the referenced article, 18% of the members of The United States House of Representatives have given nominal support to the Anti-Terrorist/Jihad Caucus. You would think that this should be enough to have a congressional inquiry into the nature of the enemy, particularly with respect to their (Islamist) ideology.

It is not going to happen. This would be way too non-mainstream for current climate that dominates American thinking, particularly, academics, the media and the political leadership of both parties. I suspect that a significant portion of the 80 current members of this caucus simply want their names associated with "anti-terrorism."

Barring another major attack of at least the 9/11 variety, the United States Government will not dare to examine the underlying ideology of the killers. In 21st Century America, anyone who takes a serious look at these people will be branded "racist," which is close to the equivalent of child molester or even murderer.

Posted by: Alek [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 1:27 AM

I have written to several elected representatives in the United States Congress to exhort them to greater understanding of Islamic teaching and history and have been very disappointed with: "It is important to realize there are many traditions within Islam, and many of them are trying to reconcile with the modern world, particularly in the U.S." and "...we must remember that the war on terror is not a war on Islam." and "The terrorists...have spread an anti-Western and anti-American message...and have made their followers dangerous agents...It would be erroneous, I believe to associate this ideology with all Muslims."
These are from members of the Senate Intelligence Committee!
As with most that are misled there is some truth mixed with error which makes their denial easier.
Representative Myrick puts some of the "Honorable" back in the title. Small perhaps, but hopeful.

Posted by: infidelion1095 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 1:30 AM

"It would be erroneous, I believe to associate this ideology with all Muslims."

That's a pretty popular response from the halls of congress.

I get that one all the time.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 1:42 AM

How do you know she doesn't actually believe that 'radical jihadists' are 'perverting Islam's tenets'?

One cannot know without asking.

I'm working on that letter this evening.

Posted by: PRCS

And how do you know she does?

All I know is that even if she doesn't she is coming to the water. We must allow her to drink. Cajoling and badgering aren't conducive to free and independent froming of opinions.

I know what few convictions I've managed to come by from all of my own have stayed with me a whole lot more unshakingly than anything I ever picked up in the folly of youth or for some other silly reason.

That what is really deep inside a person will come out eventually. There have to be a few good people - even inside these pernicious political social clubs they call parties.

All I am saying let's give this Lady a chance.

She has done good things in her local district. Other Jwatchers attested to her years of good service.

She wrote a damn ballsy letter to Dhimya re. Ports Sellout. I say to write it the way that she did speaks of guts.

it is one thing to say no politely. It is quite another to say HELL NO to the President of the United States on official stationery sigend and sealed.

So let's back off a little here, please.

Let's leave the dogmaticism where it belongs - on the Left.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 2:11 AM

PS. Let's not forget how nasty politicis truly are. Remember the armtwisting to push through the Prescription Benefits Bill that won't allow price bargaining? They called people in the dead of night to get them to vote their way.

I was interviews with republicans who expressed shock at how hardcore that particular bill was pushed.

I know there are a million things going on that we don't know about and probably never will.

I would not be surprised if all kinds of pressure is brought to bear in particular on those who dare to break ranks with their own "party".

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 2:16 AM

"And how do you know she does?"

I don't. And I intend to ask her. That is my prerogative as a citizen.

I'll be giving her a chance; to explain her position.

Now, could you please point to any of my posts in which cajoling and badgering were mentioned?

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 2:21 AM

Now, could you please point to any of my posts in which cajoling and badgering were mentioned?

Posted by: PRCS


They weren't mentioned - obviously. I am merely cautioning against anything like it. We have very little support from officialdom and when something has a chance of being genuine I think we should try and be supportive.

None of us knew what we know now when we first began to ask ourselves why are these moslems always so rude and unfriendly? Why do these moslems argue devoid of any logic? Why do these moslems make all these ridiculous demands and why do they violate any treaty and agreement that anyone makes with them? And why do they seem to take pleasure in killing.. the more sadistically and the more depravedly the more they seem to literally revel in it.

At least I assume that these or similar questions is what brought the others here.

I am pretty sure that Sue Myrick has been facing some of these questions.

It is a pretty damn chilling moment when one realizes that we share the Earth with Satan.

Not easy to come to grips with that one.

So let's find out where she's at. Go easy on her when you write her. You are free to do as you wish.

Ask yourself how does what I do further my/all our cause.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 3:03 AM

PS. Good luck with your letter.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 3:07 AM

PRCS

I tend to agree with you. A letter rewording her statements need not necessarily be hostile: it simply has to correct her facts, not her opinions. I do welcome anybody who explores what we believe and forms an opinion - I certainly don't suggest that you tell her what to believe.

But she must not form the opinion that anybody is perverting Islam, until she determines what Islam is (Quran and Sunnah), and then verify whether it's the Jihadis who are perverting Islam or the apologists in the West who are. It's one thing for her to use adjectives like radical, extremist, terrorist, et al. It's another thing for her to come up with a complete whooper that they 'pervert Islam’s tenets in practice'.

I do hope she and her colleagues get to see your letter.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 3:33 AM

Sue Myrick is a very safe incumbent, and at 65 not too old

You have to be kidding about her age. When I looked at her picture on her site my first thought was this is what a sixties show called 'Gidget goes to Washington' would look like.

But all jokes aside, Kudos to her for not being afraid to speak up.

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 5:40 AM

Caroline,

"Remote - come back (you know what I'm talking about). You may be a perfectionist but can you at least tackle the claim that in Islamic jurisprudence jihad USUALLY refers to "the struggle to evolve as a human being"?"

Thanks for the reminder. I'm not sure I'm ready to resume that task; for one thing, I have serious disagreements with the format and style of the Booklet, which I've articulated before.

One interesting fact to add to the Jihad issue is that if Jihad is really mainly "interior", why did Mohammed exempt people with physical disabilities (blind and lame, etc.)?

PRCS and Infidel Pride,

Obviously, Sue Myrick is a believer in the PC paradigm, by which any dangerous Muslim is automatically categorized as a "radical" and an "extremist" of a "small minority" who are "twisting" Islam. It should come as no surprise that she believes this. It is the dominant and mainstream Truth. Only a strange maverick going against the grain would believe otherwise in today's PC climate.

That proposed letter to Myrick could respectfully and subtly suggest to her that the question of whether Islam itself is extremist and therefore nourishes and enables terrorism should be a question open for investigation, not pre-emptively and prejudicially banned from the table of discussion. Merely getting a person (even a person like Myrick who seems to be inching along in progress) to entertain the question is a baby step that needs to be taken first, before anything else can be thought or done. Otherwise, you will make the mistake of assuming she has already taken that crucial step, and then you will unload a whole bunch of other questions and assumptions in her lap for which her mind -- still guided by the PC paradigm -- is not yet ready; and she may likely recoil at the "bigotry" and "Islamophobia" supposedly represented by all your other points.

Posted by: remote_control [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 5:47 AM

'Gidget goes to Washington'

Lol, auntbea.

Exactly the sense of humor I would expect of God when he finally "speaks truth to power".
He often finds the most unlikely instruments to effect his will...to prove his majesty.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 5:50 AM

infidelion1095 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 01:30 AM comments on the standard responses of Congress.

"...we must remember that the war on terror is not a war on Islam."

feed them back

We must remember that this is a war by Islam on the rest and that terror is a tactic in that war that is based on the Quran.


PC:

"The terrorists...have spread an anti-Western and anti-American message...and have made their followers dangerous agents...It would be erroneous, I believe to associate this ideology with all Muslims."

change to

"The followers of Muhammad...have spread an anti-Western and anti-American message...and have made their followers dangerous agents...It would be erroneous, I believe to associate the resistance to this ideology with all Infidels."

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 6:12 AM

Another variant:

We must remember that this is a war waged by Muslims and not by the disembodied word terror operating out of the dictionary as a base of operations.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 6:14 AM

By avoiding the word all, one has a statement that even PC has to admit is true.

Muslims attacked the WTC in 1993. Begala, Clinton and Stephanopoulos let in 19 Muslims as immigrants after that and those 19 Muslims attacked WTC in 2001 and the Pentagon in 2001.

The head of Pakistan's ISI, a Muslim, met with Armitage after 9-11, and out of that somehow emerged that we would pay Pakistan money and they would develop nukes, which Pakistan itself first called the Muslim bomb. Moreover, that was done by the President of Pakistan at the time.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 6:23 AM

Allahfanculo

Thanks for the hard work of translation.

According to international reports on standard of living, Switzerland is the best place in the world to live. Zurich and Geneva are the best cities in the world to live. Swiss people are so nice that they really have no clue what Islam and Jihad is.

Watch the consternation, the bewilderment, the confusion, the denial, as it becomes clear that the Iraqi who grew up in Switzerland and was granted a Swiss citizenship, could turn his service rifle on the people.

The Swiss are totally befuddled as to why a Swiss soldier (Iraqi origin - Muslim?), grew up in Switzerland, accepted in Switzerland with all the benefits that Switzerland can bestow, suddenly did this act. They are confused, totally confused. No idea, none whatever, nada, zilch.

When will we learn.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 7:22 AM

Lets see now what happens. The police will immediately discount the possibility of Jihad. It will then explained away on the basis of domestic or financial problems. The relatives of the Jihadi immediately come out with statemets such as

1. He is a good family man, loves his family and is a good neighbour.

2. Attends the mosque and is a pious person.

3. Maybe he was temporarily insane.

All this is predictable.

If the Jihadi had been shot dead, then

The same excuses as above but then the family start to raise money for the body to be taken back to the Islamic land of origin.

I know now what will happen. The body is taken back to Pakistan, Bosnia or whatever, and there the Jihadi is given the funeral of a shaheed. Obviously this cannot be done in the West, or the whole pack of lies becomes evident.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 7:43 AM

Delta Force,

If you still have frieds in Rep. Myrick's district, may I suggest you drop them a quick e-mail w/ a link to this IBD article and a request that they contact her office to recommend that she invite Robert & Hugh to speak with their caucus about the islamic threat? (I would contact her, but don't live in her district. What's worse, my congressman is one of the most liberal members in the House.) If you could also ask each of your friends to contact a couple or three of their friends residing in her district with the same request you made of your friends, and this process is repeated a couple more times, it wouldn't be long before she had a list of 50 or more constituents imploring her to meet with Robert & Hugh, if she hasn't done so already. Then she might learn that jihadists are not perverting islam's true & peaceful tenets, but instead are acting in strict accordance to them.

Posted by: sheik yer booty [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 10:14 AM

One tireless watchdog is Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C.,

it is wonderful that she is on track, she most likely is aware more of the facts than she lets on. she cannot go to truthful to be labelled islamahopbic,racists, but taking these steps, will
get in the door and get others to hear what she has to say. with all the information available, we have so many blinded pc liberal osterichs like people that when you have a politician who actually is understanding the threat, its a good day!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 10:17 AM

This is amazing. I think I am falling in love with this woman.
Finally someone in the government who actually knows that we need to do something about Jihad and Islam

Posted by: roguetruth [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 11:23 AM

Sheik yer booty


I had same difficulty in sending her a message thru her website since she limits messages to her constituents. I located her email address by other means and here it is:

myrick@mail.house.gov


Posted by: Al E. Baba [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 11:50 AM

I think it critical that Myrick and our local representatives know that we stand behind them.

I have tried to go to other websites to leave messages with bloggers (e.g. M. Malkin, townhall.com)and posters to encourage all to read the IBD artcile and write.

I probably do not know all of the sites where a such a message can be left. We need to spread the word. I tried to leave message at LGF but I never registered ( and you can't register on weekends) and I am unable to leave message. SPREAD THE WORD!

Posted by: Al E. Baba [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 11:59 AM

Al E. Baba,

I realize I could have sent her an e-mail. But as a non-constituent, I know she would never even see it. The efforts of non-constituents should, I think, focus on getting her constituents to communicate their concerns re islam to her in the hope she will take a few more steps down the path to enlightenment.

Posted by: sheik yer booty [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:07 PM

Thanks for the email address. I think we should be encouraging Representative Myrick instead of condemning her "possible" motives. She may be a true defender of liberty.
Watch her speech on the House floor on this very subject @ http://recap.fednet.net/archive/Buildasx.asp?sProxy=80_hflr021307_092.wmv,80_hflr021307_093.wmv&sTime=00:01:38.0&eTime=00:01:17&duration=00:04:38.0&UserName=repmyrinc&sLocation=&sExpire=1
We in the west need to support one another against this scourge.

Posted by: infidelion1095 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 12:27 PM

"Thanks for the email address. I think we should be encouraging Representative Myrick instead of condemning her "possible" motives."

Sending a politely worded, informative letter to Representative Myrick, and one's own representative concerning her efforts, does not constitute 'condemnation'.

That she might actually believe 'radical jihadists' are 'perverting Islamic tenets' is an issue worthy of query, and a nudge in the right direction.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 1:22 PM

Just watched Myrick's speech on the floor.

Notice all the freakin' empty seats behind her?

Not the lion I was hoping for but at least she saying things other members ignore.

Posted by: Al E. Baba [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 1:36 PM

Ms. Myrick may possibly (and soon we hope) realize that the most effective way to demolish Islam in the western democracies without giving the impression of 'intolerance' and bigotry is to publicize the Kuran's doctrines that teach first degree murder, that teach conspiracy to commit mass murder, and that teach "justifications" for mass murder. It's all in there waiting to be used. Murder is a crime in the western democracies. People who believe murder can and should be practiced in accordance with religious doctrine clearly do NOT belong in any western democracy where there is still a modicum of respect for human life (and laws outlawing murder!).

Publishing the Kuran's passages calling Jews and Christians the "descendants of apes and pigs" for instance should raise plenty of eyebrows among the public here in America; I mean Americans will just LOVE knowing the Kuran calls them "apes and pigs"...

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 2:13 PM

Rep Myrick has also provided leadership in another thorny issue, that of tough enforcement against criminal illegal aliens. She authored the Scott Gardner Act, named for a man who was killed in a terrible accident at the hands of a previously arrested drunk-driving illegal alien. It was resubmitted in the current Congress as HR 1355.

http://myrick.house.gov/hot_topics_immigration_statementtointrosgaseptpresscondc.htm

Posted by: Dana [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 14, 2007 5:53 PM

They could have called the caucus the anti-terrorism caucus if they had wanted to, so there is reason to feel hopeful about this.

Posted by: JSobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 15, 2007 3:22 PM

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