Never mind the hate towards anything non-Muslim, I’m not in the least surprised that such rumours make front page news, given how the regime of Islam unfailingly suffocates normal, free-inquiring minds.

Posted by: Steve Cheng, the infidel mathematician at April 14, 2007 8:03 AM

Collective Unconscious update: Rumor quickly spreads in Saudi Arabia about Israeli melons "infected with AIDS"

Mr. Rogers: "Can you say 'collective unconscious demonetization'?

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 8:10 AM

'...the center for chemicals and toxins in Mecca...'

Chilling words.

Posted by: Dane at April 14, 2007 8:10 AM

Given that AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease, one has to ask: What are they doing with these melons?

Posted by: USBeast at April 14, 2007 8:21 AM

USBeast-

Carl Jung and others would find this very interesting. I'm not a psychologist, but the way people think is fascinating. How much of our "reasons" are not really based in instincts and desires that are rationalized? Islam is a rationalization system that makes "good" exploitation, deception, and even the extermination of "the other". It is presented as a "cause". But as Eric Hoffer once noted "every "great cause" evolves into a business and then it degenerates into a racket". Islam has been no different in that regard.

History is one long sorry-assed record of the subduing, displacement and extermination of some recently "indigenous people" and it's generally done via some belief-rationalization-system as justification. However, no system beats Islam in this matter-not the Manchu, Spaniard, Aztec, etc., etc., in justifying, making Dhimmis and exploiting, killing an "indigenous" culture and people.

Posted by at April 14, 2007 09:01 AM

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 9:04 AM

I just noticed this is April 14. This is the 142nd anniversary of the assassination of President "Honest Abe" Lincoln (4/14/1865). Lincoln was not a Muslim. Maybe that's why he was called "Honest Abe" and known for his non-duplicity.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 9:19 AM

These Jooozzz are really a worry, no?

NOT!

The enemy within, the Gavin Kings among us, will take us to the abyss:

IN ANOTHER outstanding victory for the civil rights lobby, two HIV-positive men in Victoria and South Australia were permitted to run wild by health officials, passing on their infection to as many sexual partners as they could, because their right to privacy was deemed paramount.

What is apparent from the court appearances of both men is that senior health authorities in Victoria and SA made a value judgment between the lethal activities of their clients and the risk they posed to the community and appear to have preferred to protect the men’s privacy even though their behaviour risked the health of their sexual conquests, possibly numbering more than 100.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/rights_of_fiends_protected/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 14, 2007 9:21 AM

Excellent, that leaves more melons for me.

Posted by: Kim Hartveld at April 14, 2007 9:22 AM

The interesting thing about the pattern of history (referred above) is that over time a myth is generally developed about its goodness and time actually makes the original dis-placers the new
"indigenous people". This is true re Turkey, and especially Constantinople for Muslims (e.g.). It is also true for the displacement of the American Indian tribes (who were busy exterminating each other) by Europeans. However, in America, at least some remorse is expressed for the displacement of the American Indian tribes. However, Muslims are self-righteous about their history of displacing and exterminating "indigenous cultures". They apologize for nothing and continue to use this rationalization-system as an engine of Arab Imperialism.

The Arabs have been the most successful Imperialists in history and Islam is a very good system for rationalizing conquest and the extermination of "indigenous cultures". They even get the people whose culture was destroyed (India, Persia, Turkey) to bow to Mecca. It's an amazing rationalization-belief-system.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 10:24 AM

Frank:
The Arabs have been the most successful Imperialists in history and Islam is a very good system for rationalizing conquest and the extermination of "indigenous cultures". They even get the people whose culture was destroyed (India, Persia, Turkey) to bow to Mecca. It's an amazing rationalization-belief-system.

And Pakistan. And you are absolutely right. Muslims in these countries are persecuting what their forefathers beleived. But Islam supports this as the Quran reveals Abraham condemning his relatives for idolatry and their quite a few cases in very early Islamic history where Muslims kill their relatives because of disbelief.

The sad thing is, it falls to our generation to confront this. And it has and will consume lives.

It reminds me of Terry Pratchetts "Small Gods".
In it is a exquistor called Vorbis, who is totally dispassionate about torturing those who hold heretical beliefs of the God Om. Eventally it is pointed out that Vorbis's greatest legacy was getting other people to believe and do the same thing. Vorbis was not just a torturer, he was a creator of torturers.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at April 14, 2007 10:34 AM

If we had a CIA that worked we could so much fun putting rumours out each week.

Als the CIA is too busy trying to make muslims love each other....

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at April 14, 2007 10:38 AM

I am pleased by this rumour. It reveals that many Saudis are ignorant of the true mechanisms of transmission of HIV/AIDs in their country - and therefore, given time, it will wipe out more Muslims. I know that SA, is treating with drugs the small number, so far, infected. Foreigners with HIV/AIDS are deported.

HIV/AIDs is making inroads into the Middle East. There is a rising tide of infection in Egypt, Pakistan, Somalia, Iran. But then they have the Quran for guidance, no?

The people I feel sorry for are the Muslim women. Like India, many of them are being infected because of straying husbands. For Muslim men - they get what they deserve.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at April 14, 2007 10:41 AM

like history shows us, destruction usually come from within, with all the secrecy in muslim society, aids will take them down, it wont be melons from the Jews, but muslilm's perversions.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 14, 2007 10:42 AM

Don't forget that Nigerian Muslims believe that polio vaccine, distributed by various infidel agencies and given to their children, is believed to make the children sterile. Of course, many parents now refuse the vaccine. Poor babies, many now suffer needlessly the life long effects of polio.

Posted by: maryrose at April 14, 2007 10:55 AM

Crazed rumors and conspiracy theories and the poisoning of food business come naturally to those who have been raised on a belief-system, in societies suffused with the habits of mind of that belief-system, and among those habits of mind the most singular is that habit of mental submission.

Islam is a Total System. It offers an answer for everything: how you dress, what you eat, how you wash yourself, what you say and do and think at every moment. If you don't know the answer, you write in, and we can all eavesdrop now, merely by going to one of those Muslim webistes where Muslims by e-mail ask whether something is prohibited or commanded. Can I inherit property from an Infidel? To whom may I serve cooked meat of an animal with which I have had sexual intercourse? (This one isn't asked, ordinarily, but the answer to that question can be found in the collected works of that learned Shi'a theologian, the Ayatollah Khomeini). And once you have asked Mr. Fatwa, you get your answer, and then comes the fateful line: Allah Ta'alah. Allah Knows Best. And Allah has nothing in common with the nice soothing grey-haired low-key actor who played the title role in the television series "Father Knows Best" and later did those commercials for Sanka.

Islam inculcates in its adherents an unwillingness to question. It makes a virtue of, or rather regards as a virtue, the absence of critical and skeptical inquiry. When an entire society, generation after generation, century after century, is discouraged from free and skeptical inquiry, that has its effect. How could it not? And that is why, though the credulous and the primitive (the primitive are the credulous) exist in all societies, there is a much higher proportion of them in Muslim societies, where they call the tune, they rule the roost.

And so strong is this conspiracy theorizing, that even islamochristians have been known to echo it. A Lebanese Greek Orthodox woman told me once, in perfect sincerity, that the Israelis had somehow been deliberately poisoning Lebanese bees so that they, the Israelis, would not have a rival for Israeli honey. When I expressed doubts about this, and pointed out that there were tens of thousands of honey producers all over the world, and the Israeli beekeepers surely weren't all that concerned with competition from Lebanon. There was no reasoning with her.

Nor is there any reasoning with most Muslim Arabs, once you get them going, about the endless perfidy and clever onspiracies of the Israelis, the Jews, the "Crusaders," the Americans, the English (this goes over especially well in Iran), the Hindus (ditto, but for Iran read Pakistan)

The business of so many Arabs being convinced that the Mossad or the C.I.A., or both, were behind the World Trade Center bombing, at the same time those Arabs appearenly hail that bombing as a great Muslim deed that gave America her comeuppance, is the best-known recent example -- but not the only one, for there are a thousand others, and the numbers of such crazed conspiracy ideas, both foreign and domestic, in the Muslim lands, or among Muslim peoples, are constantly being replenished.

Posted by: Hugh at April 14, 2007 11:06 AM

UK Infidel Lover-

Re: Terry Pratchetts "Small Gods": I'll have to read that book. It sounds interesting. Your comment reminded me of George Orwell's insight that the trick in these matters is to make the subdued love their place. They then become a tool (auxiliaries) of "the best people".

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My theory as to why Arabs and the conquered (the auxiliaries of Arab Imperialism) feel no remorse and have no insight into the nature of the rationalization-system is because it is well concealed as "religion". The system is surrounded by rituals and Islamic costumes (all religions use ritual and costumes). This "religion" camouflage (buttressed with rituals and costumes to ingrain belief) is probably why Hitler (and Himmler) admired Islam as a tool of conquest and the subduing and the annihilation an enemy "indigenous" culture and people.

Hitler thought Islam was a perfect belief-system for Imperialism (he considered Christianity "The Jewish Christ-creed with its pity ethics.") I think Hitler was right.

Why should one feel guilty for destroying "indigenous cultures" when God said its OK to do that? If the Arabs had been at Plymouth (instead of the English) what was left of the Indian tribes would now bow to Mecca.

Americans feel remorse and apologize for the displacement of the Indian tribes. Being a Muslim (Arab, Ottoman, etc.) means never having to say sorry for being an imperialist and a mass murderer of "indigenous" cultures and peoples.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 11:07 AM

"To whom may I serve cooked meat of an animal with which I have had sexual intercourse? (This one isn't asked, ordinarily, but the answer to that question can be found in the collected works of that learned Shi'a theologian, the Ayatollah Khomeini)".-Hugh

Re Chef Khomeini: Yuk. At Jihad Watch School the learning never ends.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 11:33 AM

'...the center for chemicals and toxins in Mecca...'

Chilling words.

Posted by: Dane

They mean the Kaaba by this center?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 14, 2007 11:36 AM

Ayatollah Khomeini Resturant menu:

F@@@ed chicken, F@@@ed Lamb, etc. and for desert, assorted nuts.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 11:52 AM

If Israeli melons will cause aids then certainly the rumor must be true that those Muslim's murdering westerners are so tainted by the aura, that even martyrs end up in hell.

It is amusing to read the third world press of India, Russia and Middle East. They come up with the best Enquirer stories since the Enquirer went legit.

Remember Muslims, an infidel's soul so murdered casts a myst upon you that allah can not tell the difference and you as the infidel's keeper end up in hell too.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 14, 2007 12:17 PM

Frank said

Re Chef Khomeini: Yuk. At Jihad Watch School the learning never ends.

In case you missed it, Chef Khomeini's answer was that it is permissible to serve said f@@@ed animal to a neighboring clan, but not to one's own clan.

Think about that the next time you are biting into a shawirma sandwich, or the kefta kabobs, from your neighborhood Morroccan/Egyptian/Turkish/Afghani restaurant. Bon apetit, everyone!

[BTW, Frank, have you forgiven me yet? I apologize again. Quite sincerely, no sarcasm.]

Posted by: special_guest at April 14, 2007 12:20 PM

This irrational and rabid rumor mongering, full of hatred and fear of "the others", whether infidels or the not-quite-real-enough-Muslims, is simply another opportunity to be exploited by an intelligent leader, if we infidels were to ever get one.

Intelligence services could only dream of the opportunities provided by a society that spreads information this way. The hysteria that could be created, the disorder that could be encouraged, the fissures that could be exploited, all without any need for evidence or actions. It's another blessing, if one believes in blessings.

Posted by: special_guest at April 14, 2007 12:27 PM

Israeli melons have AIDS

What else can one expect from the Muslims who are dumb enough to believe in the false prophet Muhammad, who are dumb enough to believe he is the perfect man and prefect example for all mankind in all times and places. Of course they'll be suckers for any nasty rumor about Jews conspiring against them. Muhammad reviled Jews, he beheaded them in mass executions and today's Muslims merely ape him

Posted by: dennisw at April 14, 2007 12:32 PM

Ah the joy of a ripe pair of mellons! But while the eye is on the mellon conspiracy it fails to see the 'Airport Metal Detector conspiracy' where select unsuspecting travellers to jihad ridden countries are regulary given a heatlhy blast of cancer inducing radiation, perhaps this is one explaination as to why the Iranian president was glowing in a green light at the UN? just a thought.

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking at April 14, 2007 12:44 PM

One more example of the infection of Saudi melons. The metaphore is apt. Their heads are infected with superstition, hate and the nagging reaization that even with oil wealth, they are poor. They are poor in understanding, poor in productive engagement with the world and desperately grasping at the only indigenous identity they can tolerate; the failed and suffocating Wahabi Supremacy.

Posted by: Papa Bear at April 14, 2007 1:51 PM

One more example of the infection of Saudi melons. The metaphore is apt. Their heads are infected with superstition, hate and the nagging reaization that even with oil wealth, they are poor. They are poor in understanding, poor in productive engagement with the world and desperately grasping at the only indigenous identity they can tolerate; the failed and suffocating Wahabi Supremacy.

Posted by: Papa Bear at April 14, 2007 1:52 PM

And once you have asked Mr. Fatwa, you get your answer, and then comes the fateful line: Allah Ta'alah. Allah Knows Best. And Allah has nothing in common with the nice soothing grey-haired low-key actor who played the title role in the television series "Father Knows Best" and later did those commercials for Sanka. - Hugh

But that'd be shirk-- "Allah has no son," y'know.

And "Father Knows Best"'s Robert Young apparently didn't know best enough to beat Arthur Godfrey (though I don't know if Young was ever in the running) to record what was allegedly the ultimate public service announcement in event of nuclear war:

http://conelrad.com/godfrey_2.html

Right about now, the Saudis could use a similar figure-- Young or Godfrey-- to do a "Your Canteloupes Don't Have AIDS" ad.

Posted by: MarisolJW at April 14, 2007 1:58 PM

If only it WERE true!

Posted by: pythagoras at April 14, 2007 1:59 PM

It's more likely the otherway round this happens, in the UK curry houses have been tested for substances, traces of semen have been found. Guess what? Is it a joke or some infedel sense of humour here? Ok they might not be Saudis but of the same plane of thought. I hope they do some tests first and see who is behind it all, this by proveing its fake and this if true why?

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at April 14, 2007 2:23 PM

HIV in a melon? This is hilarious. Ah, the ignorance of some people.

Posted by: champ at April 14, 2007 2:31 PM

Another textbook medieval Europe anti-semitic tactic being employed by Muslims. Once it was the Jews supposedly poisoning the wells, blamed as a cause of the Black Death. Now, the Jews are infecting melons to spread AIDS. The only real thing that's been spread here is ignorance, from one society and time to another. But at least the medieval Europeans had the excuse of living in an age of almost non-existent medical knowledge. The Islamic world is ignorant because it wants to be.

Posted by: staff_of_magius at April 14, 2007 3:12 PM

Unfortunately this rumor stuff happens all of the time...90 percent of which has nothing to do with Israel (in Cairo when bird flu came in, people sent text messages saying that somebody had killed a bird in the South and that the entire Nile was affected. Not true, bird flu isn't transmittable through water). The West is susceptible to rumors as well:

"Iran to Nuke Israel on August 22?"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16208

"Irans Day of Terror?"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23533

But I guess putting a question mark at the end makes it scholarly, while when a period is put at the end it is a dirty rumor?

Just doing some thinking
(this tag for some reason just drives you guys mad...like you have the taste for blood or something...oh wait...I keep getting "Jihadists" and "JihadWatch Posters" confused)

Posted by: An American at April 14, 2007 3:47 PM

BTW, Frank, have you forgiven me yet? I apologize again. Quite sincerely, no sarcasm.]-Special_Guest

Absolutely. All is forgiven.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 3:54 PM

Special_Guest-

I mean that. I really speak from the heart and use my head to expreess myself. So I mean what I write literally-LOL.

Posted by: Frank at April 14, 2007 3:57 PM

the only noxious poisons that the saudis should worry about are the poisons sprewed forth by their holy imams.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at April 14, 2007 4:23 PM

islam is spreading like AIDS around the world islam is a HIV for the mind

Posted by: Greek Gurl at April 14, 2007 4:30 PM

OR it could be that some "pious heroic" muslim male raped and pillaged the wrong person and contracted aids and so in his last attempt to start a war(?) with israel. OR to hide possibly his homosexuality contratced aids virus started the rumor and to lay the blame ,of course,on Israel.

We could go on all day like this but who cares lets just hope the aids part is true.May they all get it 100 fold.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at April 14, 2007 6:37 PM

There is also a rumour going around that unprotected sex can lead to HIV infection. Still, its just a rumour and Muslims should ignore it.

Unbeleivable.

And then these people have the gall to tell us that the Muslim Arabs invented more or less everything - science, technology, everything.

Posted by: DP111 at April 14, 2007 7:34 PM

"Rumor quickly spreads in Saudi Arabia about Israeli melons "infected with AIDS"

PRICELESS.

Just when you think muslims couldn't get more stupid they go and do something like this......

Posted by: ewha1 at April 14, 2007 9:12 PM

Well, few people accuse muslims of being sane.
This is just Islamic wide paranoic psychosis. In the west a few individuals get this also. They end up in mental hospitals where they spend hours yelling at the television. The Jews are much better targets than televised images, and easier to attack. I have known some insane people to actually attack a tv, while muslims would prefer to attack living Jews.
Once these crazies convince themselves that their paranoic delusions have a base of reality, they will attack when opportunity presents itself.

Posted by: duh_swami at April 14, 2007 9:29 PM

duh-swami , you really really couldn't make up headlines like "Jews infecting melons with AIDs" up.

I mean, honestly, you couldn't.

Posted by: ewha1 at April 14, 2007 9:57 PM

The weakness of Mohammedans for improbable rumours and conspiracy theories is a natural result of the ethical confusion which their religion has about telling the truth. Accepting that lying, distorting reality and pretending to be what you are not, is perfectly moral under some circumstances has a corrupting effect on the mind and personality such that it becomes impossible to know when to stop. At some point there comes a serious distortion in the perception of reality, the triumph of wishful thinking.

Deliberately accepting the 'noble lie' by which other cultures are seen as having equivalent value to our own has led to a collective delusion of the same kind among our own populations - but less serious ( because critical thought is still valued in the west).

Mohammedan contempt for the west and a belief (despite all objective evidence) in the superiority of their own 'civilisation' has its mirror image in the inability of most westerners to see their religion as characterised by 'lies, hate, hysteria and nonsense' to use a phrase that recently turned up on Jihadwatch.

If I was inclined to set myself up as a prophet, I would make the first words of my sacred book: honesty is the best policy.

Posted by: wallyUK at April 15, 2007 12:37 AM

About the spread of HIV/AIDS.........

When I lived in the middle east I was told by an Arab male.............

that Women are for breeding and men are for fun..

They deny that HIV/AIDS is in Saudi but of course with all the hidden homosexuality this will prove to be untrue. Also it will be spread via the females too as the arab male generally swings both ways..........poor babies.

Posted by: marilyn at April 15, 2007 2:38 AM

I'm pretty sure they swing three-ways ... poor goats.

Posted by: Kim Hartveld at April 15, 2007 7:15 AM

Kim Hartveld,
LOL! Remember their chastity must be preserved. Somebody really ought to tap into the goat diaper market in Iraq. Might as well make a few bucks there.

Posted by: kafir world at April 15, 2007 4:52 PM

No one in Saudi Arabia would repeat stuff like the watermelon story if they weren't confident that these people are stupid enough to believe it.
It is mind numbing.

Posted by: pismopal at April 15, 2007 5:16 PM

Four ways, if you count the melons. (snicker)

Posted by: pst314 at April 15, 2007 9:24 PM

Allah help them when they find out what's in the cucumbers!

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 16, 2007 12:50 AM

It is not the melons,,it is the Qur'an....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 16, 2007 3:24 PM

When do we Nuke Mecca??

Posted by: nephilim at April 16, 2007 10:40 PM