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April 19, 2007

Iran's Thug-In-Chief warns West: Become Muslim or else

Again -- although this time his call is addressed to "oppressive world powers" in general, not just to Bush.

This is in accord with Muhammad's instructions:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah....When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.... -- Sahih Muslim 4294

"Ahmadinejad advises oppressors to heed prophets' teachings," from IRNA, with thanks to Judeoscope:

IRI President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad advised oppressive world powers here Wednesday to heed prophets' teachings and not to pave the path of ignorance.

He said, "God sent His Prophets (PBUT) to mankind with pure logic and divine teachings, the last of whom was Islam's Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), but there are today unfortunately oppressive powers in the world that either do not grasp the essence of prophets' message, or do so, but ignore them, paving the path of ignorance, darkness, oppression, and unethical ways of life."

He added, "I wish to send a message to these oppressive powers on behalf of you, and the entire Iranian nation, asking them to get back to the path put before them by the prophets, that is the path of divine guidance, justice, friendship, and being faithful to the covenants they have vowed with their nations."

Ahmadinejad warned the oppressive powers, "Beware! If you do not get back to this path; if you do not end your oppressive methods; if you do not keep on looting the other nations and try to keep on imposing your illegitimate hegemony over other nations, you will face the destiny of the past tyrants in history, that is none but death, and downfall for yourselves, and wretched lives for your nations." Further addressing the oppressive powers, Ahmadinejad said, "Today you selfishly and arrogantly insist on halting the path of nations' progress, including Iran, resorting to telling lies to the world public opinion and even cheating your own nations."

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Ahmadinejad said, "Our nation's advice for you is to get back to the path of monotheism, justice, and friendship, at least in a bid to safeguard your own nations' immediate, and long term interests."

Posted by Robert at April 19, 2007 7:18 AM
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“If you do not keep on looting the other nations and try to keep on imposing your illegitimate hegemony over other nations, you will face the destiny of the past tyrants in history, that is none but death, and downfall for yourselves, and wretched lives for your nations."

Nice one Monkey! I’ll have your TV first I think.

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 7:49 AM

"Our nation's advice for you is to get back to the path of monotheism, justice, and friendship, at least in a bid to safeguard your own nations' immediate, and long term interests."

Uh………can we think about it a bit before we give you an answer, Mr. Monkey-Man?????

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:02 AM
and wretched lives for your nations

Yup, its absolute misery here. Terrible.

Think I'll pass, cheetah - life looks a whole lot more wretched where you are, and you seem determined to make it a whole lot worse...

Posted by: Jesus Worshipping Zionist [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:18 AM


Iran's Thug-In-Chief warns West: "Become Muslim or else"


I choose the "or else"

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:18 AM
"Become Muslim or else"

That's an easy choice. . ."or else" it is.

Posted by: justamomof4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:27 AM

...is Ahmadinejad a little peeved that we have found his weapons in Lebanon? Iran? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Nigeria? Syria? Gaza?


...the very weapons that the terrorists so gleefully use to kill ice cream vendors, barbers, journalists, garbagemen, bicycle riding old men, plantatation workers, telephone operators, tourists, shoppers, ambulance drivers, young women, old women, young children, ...all these and more were Muslims...

...Has Ahmadinejad declared war on Muslin civilians?

...big talk from a dwarf...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:28 AM

I choose the "or else"

I'll second that; and I assure you, I will NOT end up on the losing end of that stick no matter how wishful the thinking or planning.

He added, "I wish to send a message to these oppressive powers on behalf of you, and the entire Iranian nation, asking them to get back to the path put before them by the prophets, that is the path of divine guidance, justice, friendship, and being faithful to the covenants they have vowed with their nations."

Heck, shapiro ought to invite him to pray with the immam in the Texas legislature; maybe traitors george and pelosi will consider having him do the same before the Congress.

They might even muster up a few converts for the right price.


Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:29 AM

Good Lord
I'madickheaddad is at it again.
Sans the big red nose and oversived shoes, there's still no doubt what he is.
What a deluded fool.
More sadly.....
There are those who worship this man.

Posted by: Freedom [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:52 AM

..or else...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:53 AM

"Our nation's advice for you is to get back to the path of monotheism, justice, and friendship, at least in a bid to safeguard your own nations' immediate, and long term interests."

Through all history this thinking is the rationalization system used to subdue, exploit, dehumanize and even exterminate some lately "indigenous people". The Aztec used "religion" to subdue the Toltec, the Spaniards used it with the Aztec, the Arabs used it to conquer the Spaniard, and even set about exterminating people in India in the name of God. Muslims removed the indigenous Greeks from Turkey and Constantinople. (However, at its core, Islam remains the engine of Arab Imperialism.)

Every group has its rationalization system for Imperialism. The problem here is universal. However, people such as the Psychotic in Iran are more dangerous since he obviously is thinking in terms of genocide (especially re Israel). He dreams of annihilating the Jewish state. It does not matter that so many there fled the Muslim Mideast because of people such as the Psychotic.

It is not his business (or any Muslims business)what other people believe re God. But he thinks so. The only way he and the regime in Iran will face reality is by a very severe use of force against them. (Only military force would have stopped the Arabs in India, e.g.)

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:57 AM

iran may be much closer to its first nuclear missiles than we think.
from Melanie

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/

The questions that need to be asked about those WMD

I have written an article for this week’s Spectator magazine about Dave Gaubatz, a former USAF special agent who says that in 2003 he discovered four of Saddam’s WMD bunkers — only for the Iraq Survey Group to fail to excavate these sites, allowing the material to be looted by the Iraqis, Syrians and Russia and taken to Syria. If Mr Gaubatz is correct, it means two things: that the invasion of Iraq was more than justified on the grounds originally given, that Saddam was in breach of the terms of the ceasefire of the 1991 war and that he posed an unconscionable threat to the free world; but also that, through American incompetence, the worst case scenario has now been realised — that Saddam’s WMD are in the hands of terrorist regimes waging war against the west.

Posted by: chevalier de st george [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:02 AM

O.T. a little.
Can anyone tell me:-
apart from
Killing.
Rapine.
Theft on a grand scale.
Pedophaelia.
slavery etc.
What exactly did "The Prophet" mohammed the camel driver (or was it goatherd?) ever prophesy? Perhaps Abdullah, Naseem, Idn Batooti or whatever the hell his label is could enlighten me. Does Amadinajad really believe a sophisticated culture like the Western one would willingly embrace the rantings of a delusional psychopath?

Posted by: rookie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:04 AM

This delusional psychopath must spend half of everyday thinking up what kind of threat can I put out there now.

If I gathered up the list of all his threats against the West and Israel, it would be a full page long.

Well I suppose we can give Mr. A-Mad-Nut-Job credit for creativity.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:08 AM

Somebody with far more scholarship than mine might write a very fine history exploring this pattern noted. It is universal. We must get beyond the blame game, the let's-shame-the-other-game and recognize that this pattern is at its core a human problem. Our species is now in great danger because of it. As Einstein once noted, technology is making human nature exponentially dangerous to itself and his comment is more true than it was when he noted that over 50 years ago.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:10 AM

I found this article by: Victor Davis Hanson, National Review Online

"I recently had a dream that British marines fought back, like their forefathers of old, against criminals and pirates. When taken captive, they proved defiant in their silence. When released, they talked to the tabloids with restraint and dignity, and accepted no recompense."

"I dreamed that a kindred German government, which best knew the wages of appeasement, cut-off all trade credits to the outlaw Iranian mullahs — even as the European Union joined the Americans in refusing commerce with this Holocaust-denying, anti-Semitic, and thuggish regime."

"NATO countries would then warn Iran that their next unprovoked attack on a vessel of a member nation would incite the entire alliance against them in a response that truly would be of a “disproportionate” nature."

That's right, Victor, was dreaming.

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:12 AM
apart from Killing. Rapine. Theft on a grand scale.Pedophaelia.slavery etc.

Precisely nothing. And these aren't prophesies, they are mandates. If you have some flunkies who you order to kill people, I don't think you can claim to have 'prophesied' murder. Although with the religion of lies, fantasy and obscuratism, anything is possible...

Posted by: Jesus Worshipping Zionist [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:13 AM

What a hypocrite! And he said the west were the bullies!

Posted by: Oyobear [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:18 AM

Muslims are known for their hyperbolic ranting rhetoric - don't make too much of it. Its only if you refuse to convert to Islam that you are 'shaming' them and making them look small and their 'honor' demands that they destroy you - but otherwise its just talk.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:35 AM

"Well I suppose we can give Mr. A-Mad-Nut-Job credit for creativity.

Posted by: Mackie '

....Amadinejad is not creative, he is a parrot, parroting what he is told to say by the Islamic Ayatollahs who are really the ones in charge...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:43 AM

asking them to get back to the path put before them by the prophets, that is the path of divine guidance, justice, friendship, and being faithful to the covenants they have vowed with their nations."

"Ahmadinejad " does not realize that a lot of Westerers understand the moon god he bows down to five times a day, has nothing to do with any religion on earth, and that muhammud is nothing more than the devil in disguise. these muslims pray to a deviant man and circle a black rock, now who is out of sinc here? iranians need to get rid of "Ahmadinejad and his cohorts" before the West does it for them, and the results iranians will not be too pleased with.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:45 AM

Lan astaselem - I will not submit.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:54 AM

Lan astaselem - I will not submit.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 9:55 AM

Iran,
Repent and believe in the God if Israel and His TRUE works, or suffer the wrath of the US of A and her allies in this life and the wrath of the God of Israel, Whom you hate, in the next.

Posted by: angryeagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:02 AM

His path only goes so far back the rest is called the time of ignorance or darkness. For they have no way to explain anything only Abraham when Mohammed changes the meaning of what God's purpose was! His path leads no where! He can go back to where his path led him from! If he goes forward that is coming from the 1st humanity too! There is no hope of redemption. There is no freedom of will. He can licked the bottom of my work boots!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:23 AM

"iran may be much closer to its first nuclear missiles than we think.
from Melanie

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/

The questions that need to be asked about those WMD"

If what's posted there is true, it's a very frightening scenario for all of us.

Posted by: gaelen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:32 AM

OR ELSE! -ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ-

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ - Molon Labe - meaning "Come and take [them]!", roughly corresponding to the modern equivalent English phrase "over my dead body"; reportedly the defiant response of King Leonidas of Sparta to Xerxes of Persia at the onset of the Battle of Thermopylae (480 BC). Xerxes, whose forces vastly outnumbered the Spartans and their allies, offered to spare the lives of Leonidas and his few thousand colleagues if they would only surrender and lay down their weapons.

Instead, the Spartans held Thermopylae for three days and, although they were ultimately wiped out, they inflicted serious damage upon the Persian army, and most importantly delayed its progress to Athens, essentially preventing the conquest of the Greek Peninsula.

Now is the time to tell the muslim world - Molon Labe!

Posted by: CelticCoyote [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:45 AM

Hello Robert,

Could you give the specific verse in the Qu'ran (spit) that says anything less than domination is oppression? I believe Muhammed (spit) does say that in the Qu'ran (spit) if I'm not mistaken.

Regards,

M. Ram (aka wrathofasma)

Posted by: wrathofasma [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:53 AM

Perhaps someone could remind Mammoud Ahmadingleberry that the "ice cream vendor" was a Buddhist, and he was killed and beheaded by followers of the "Religion of Peace."

I guess Rocky Road is an affront to Allah.

Posted by: give me doughnuts [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 11:08 AM

Why do i have this vision of a small rotweiller
running around making a lot of noise looking for it`s denture fixative so that someone will take its threats seriously?
Is it just me ?

Posted by: aladdinsane57 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 11:43 AM

rookie-

Mohammad made one "prophesy".

Recorded in the Bukhari Hadith (sayings and life-details of the pedophile "prophet")-number 2; 26; 666-

"... a skinny-legged black man from Ethiopia will tear down the Ka'aba, stone by stone..."

I can't wait.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 12:01 PM

WHACK THE MAHDI GAME.

I have an idea for a flash cartoon game called whack the mahdi. I don't have the skills to make one but here is the concept. This is the concept of "whack a mole game", you have nine wells and a hammer. now and than the mahdi who resmbeles an ayatollah pops up from the well and you must whack him back into the well with the hammer. every whack makes him more bloodied. you win when he dies and goes screaming back to hell. you lose when he rises from the well and turns into a copy of achmedjihad.

Posted by: desidude [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 12:03 PM

If these unholy killers from that moon-cult disguised to look like monotheism choose to kill me, so be it. It is better to be a dead Christian than a living Muslim. Indeed, a dead Christian is alive forevermore.

I will never bow to the words of a false prophet. That means I will never become a Muslim.

Posted by: IAmFree [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 12:19 PM

Deuteronomy 30: 16, 19-20
16 For I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess. 19 This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the LORD is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. .

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 12:55 PM

So...I was so distracted by the BOLD that I forgot to read the remainder. He was NOT asking the United States to return to Islam. You know, not too long ago Hugh was discussing how Jews don't fit into Europe and therefore need to remove themselves from Europe and eventually form their own state (the ideas of Herzl, foundations of modern Zionism). Also, interestingly enough, the words of Adolf Hitler. Therefore, using Spencer logic, Hugh is a Nazi. If Mohammed said something, and if Ahmadenijad says it too (without making any references to Mohammed whatsoever), then he must be preparing for war. Maybe it's similar to when Iran was going to nuke Israel on (or around/maybe/perhaps...these are the words you use when you don't know what you're talking about but still want to remain authoritative) on August 28th (beginning of the next Iranian Islamic civil month, miaraj happened on a different date to Iranians, but please don't listen, all Muslims are monolithic). By saying that, Spencer through his logic, even though he didn't reference him or say anything about him, is a McCarthyist... you probably don't see where this is going and will make some hateful comments stating so...

Point: Connection to something requires an actual connection (citation, examples, etc. When Bush talks about spreading democracy to the Middle East, does that mean he's Napoleonic?) Don't just state something random from Islamic texts and then put it next to a news story, you actually have to make the connection (called rhetoric and argument...)

Just doing some thinking...
(Don't bother reading this [like I have to tell you that] just put the hateful comments below...(just say that I'm a Muslim, and everybody will think you're cool and you don't have to argue)

Posted by: An American [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 12:56 PM

Would someone please silence this madman posing as a human being by stuffing a nuke in his pie hole? Please! These unbelievable ultimatums need to stop.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 1:03 PM

What is important about Ahmadinejad's tone is that people repeat what they have heard and is in their current conversation.

Ahmadinejad is telling the world what bin Laden's son in Iran, al Qaeda in Iran, the Supreme Council, Russian GRU and Muslims in the region are talking about.

With America soon to evacuate Iraq as it is being pushed to do, the Muslims are preparing to implement their next policy according to bin Laden's manifesto. If they do not have to fight America in Iraq, they are now free to spread the attacks into Europe and America.

I hope the Americans who have been bitching about Iraq start preparing a policy beyond blaming George Bush as this is their policy and not Bush's policy anymore. He wanted to fight in Iraq and no one else did. Ahmadinejad is now telling the world what Muslims are staging next.

The attacks are coming to Europe and America now that Islam does not have to fight America in Iraq.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 1:14 PM

Just doing some thinking...
(Don't bother reading this [like I have to tell you that] just put the hateful comments below...(just say that I'm a Muslim, and everybody will think you're cool and you don't have to argue)
Posted by: An American

sorry your posts makes no sense, but then l do not logically place "doing some thinking" with "that l'm a Muslim", it just logically does not fit together, you know that Seasame game, what does not belong here.. well those two concepts dont belong together.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 1:27 PM

I love the chutzpah in declaring their "true monotheism." Where does the magic rock fit into this formulation? That's idol worship.

If you want to be picky, Deists are the 'true' monotheists. That's the only way to avoid the God tinkering with his perfect creation paradox. Lucky for Islam, logic is punishable by death.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 1:43 PM

Ahmad wants a fight -- so why doesn't he just go ahead and start one. Is he hoping we'll make the first move so that he can then turn around and whine about it by saying, "Look at what they've done to poor, pitiful Iran!"

Is there some kind of stipulation made by the Mahdi that Iran cannot make the first move? I just don't get all the 'tough talk' without anything to show for it.

Are we waiting to see what Iran/Ahmad's got? Because the only nukes we're seeing are the ones flying out of his mouth.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 1:56 PM

Off Topic Hate Crime Alert:

Dateline: Battle of Lewiston-19APR07

A ham steak was found in the presence of Somali Muslims in Lewiston, Maine today. The ham steak was wrapped in plastic, and was discovered by the victims. It is suspected that the ham steak was placed by Infidels. The incident is being called a hate crime on statewide radio.

Lewiston was the site of the pig’s head being rolled into a Mosque a couple of years ago. The local paper runs Islamic ads quoting Qu’ranic texts stressing the need to keep populations in check by the use of the sword.

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 2:05 PM

"Just doing some thinking"...Hmm, it might be more accurate to change that tag to "Just doing some propagandizing, of the sort that is copied, and recopied, over and over again on Stormfront or Islamist, or Marxist websites." Same tired old rhetoric which is so common on hatesites, that it has become boring.

Posted by: Abu Allah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 2:15 PM

He's been saying it right along.

And we are neither scared nor going to "obey" his "commands."

The 'mighty nut job' can drop dead in a small, glowing hole in the ground.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 2:40 PM

"A ham steak was found in the presence of Somali Muslims in Lewiston, Maine today.

The ham steak was wrapped in plastic,

and was discovered by the victims. It is suspected that the ham steak was placed by Infidels."

.......at least someone was practicising "safe hate"....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 2:40 PM

By identifying these 'oppressive world powers' (what rhetorical genius not to mention them by name) as polytheists, Mad Mahdi-Mongering Antarinejad (ask a persian speaker what this means) is giving himself the green light to deal with them in the appropriate way. They don't even get dhimmi status. Its the sword for you, boys...

Posted by: DeRaquis [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 3:47 PM

"...become muslim or else."

Wow...I think I covered this the other day already...along with the rest of the group here that saw it coming a mile away.

I'm glad all our BS detectors are running well.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 3:59 PM

"become a muslim"?
"YUCK"

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 6:28 PM

“The attacks are coming to Europe and America now that Islam does not have to fight America in Iraq.”

Lame Cherry.

Good, I hope you are right because there is nothing more likely to galvanise a people against their enemy than bloodshed on their own streets. If the streets of London even begin to resemble Baghdad the British people will never forgive Neu Arbeit, whether they are on the left or the right both will have reasons to hate.

With Ingsoc gone we can get down to the Churchillian business of fighting our corner.


Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 6:42 PM

Monotheism = don't insult the "prophet"
don't insult the qur'an
don't look at or touch their women
they worship the black meteorite in the
Kaaba
Not so much monotheism, is it?

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 6:45 PM

Here is a link to the black rock of islam.
looks a little suspect to me.
http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 6:47 PM

From the link above.
The stone which the builders refused is become the head-stone of the corner. Ishmael was looked on as being rejected by God, or so the Israelites believed. Yet it was a progeny of Ishmael that the Last Prophet, the 'head-stone of the corner' was to arise.

Another stolen verse from the Bible, it had nothing to do with the meteorite. It is a prophesy of the Redeemer (through Israel) to come.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 6:58 PM

Actually, he's a front man for the imans. He's their puppet - whatever he says comes straight from their ruling on the koran.

It's the imans that have to be brought down.

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 7:39 PM

Ram:


"Could you give the specific verse in the Qu'ran (spit) that says anything less than domination is oppression? I believe Muhammed (spit) "

Yy really don't like the islamics do ya?

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 7:44 PM

Admadajine uses phrases like Lord. I wonder who he is talking to? He calls God Allah! Who is Lord?
The right path?! In a true religion would you not beable to chose your own path and not have a leader tell you or you die! He is killing people over there like Sodom! He wants to push the 'evelope'! He is making attacks on Afghanistan to disablelize it. He is keeping us bunkered down in Iraq knowing well the west plans!
If he has not been filled in all the way he must call Nancy she can help! Or Kerry? How about Sheehan has she been in his arms yet like Chevez?!
There sure are enough of them here! Marshmellows!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:08 PM

so madmoud armoureddinnerjacket wants us all to wear a bad suit and have a beard and follow the teachings of a lunatic or else hhmmmm i think i will have the else i like bacon far to much and scantily clad women.

Posted by: UKatheist [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 8:24 PM

allat,

Yes, I don't think of Islam (spit) that much. There may be good Muslims (I won't spit on them) but their prophet (spit spit spit) and their holy book (spit spit spit spit) are f***ed up. And this recent quote from Ahmadinutjob makes me wanna....well...

spit spit spit spit spit spit fart in his general direction

Posted by: wrathofasma [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 10:50 PM

I thought we were only supposed to get three warnings. Isn't this the fourth or fifth?

Who is counting?

Posted by: Kay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 11:05 PM

Wrathofasma

Try Quran 2:217. Just in case someone howls about the context or the translation picked, here are all the translations from Quranbrowser.com, as well as the transliterated Arabic.

Pickthall They question thee (O Muhammad) with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: Warfare therein is a great (transgression), but to turn (men) from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a greater with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing. And they will not cease from fighting against you till they have made you renegades from your religion, if they can. And whoso becometh a renegade and dieth in his disbelief: such are they whose works have fallen both in the world and the Hereafter. Such are rightful owners of the Fire: they will abide therein.

Yusuf Ali They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of God to prevent access to the path of God, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.

Hilali-Khan They ask you concerning fighting in the Sacred Months (i.e. 1st, 7th, 11th and 12th months of the Islamic calendar). Say, "Fighting therein is a great (transgression) but a greater (transgression) with Allah is to prevent mankind from following the Way of Allah, to disbelieve in Him, to prevent access to Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Makkah), and to drive out its inhabitants, and Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism) if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever."

Shakir They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever -- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide.

Sher Ali They ask thee about fighting in the Sacred Month. Say, `Fighting therein is a heinous thing, but to hinder men from the way of ALLAH, and to be ungrateful to HIM, and to hinder men from the Sacred Mosque, and to turn out its people therefrom, is more heinous in the sight of ALLAH; and persecution is worst than killing.' And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back from your Faith, if they can. And whoso from among you turns back from his Faith and dies while he is a disbeliever, it is they whose works shall be vain in this world and in the next. These are the inmates of the Fire and therein shall they abide.

Khalifa They ask you about the Sacred Months and fighting therein: say, "Fighting therein is a sacrilege. However, repelling from the path of GOD and disbelieving in Him and in the sanctity of the Sacred Masjid, and evicting its people, are greater sacrileges in the sight of GOD. Oppression is worse than murder." They will always fight you to revert you from your religion, if they can. Those among you who revert from their religion, and die as disbelievers, have nullified their works in this life and the Hereafter. These are the dwellers of Hell, wherein they abide forever.

Arberry They will question thee concerning the holy month, and fighting in it. Say: 'Fighting in it is a heinous thing, but to bar from God's way, and disbelief in Him, and the Holy Mosque, and to expel its people from it -- that is more heinous in God's sight; and persecution is more heinous than slaying.' They will not cease to fight with you, till they turn you from your religion, if they are able; and whosoever of you turns from his religion, and dies disbelieving -- their works have failed in this world and the next; those are the inhabitants of the Fire; therein they shall dwell forever.

Palmer They will ask thee of the sacred month,- of fighting therein. Say, 'Fighting therein is a great sin; but turning folks off God's way, and misbelief in Him and in the Sacred Mosque, and turning His people out therefrom, is a greater in God's sight; and sedition is a greater sin than slaughter.' They will not cease from fighting you until they turn you from your religion if they can; but whosoever of you is turned from his religion and dies while still a misbeliever; these are those whose works are vain in this world and the next; they are the fellows of the Fire, and they shall dwell therein for aye.

Rodwell They will ask thee concerning war in the Sacred Month. SAY: To war therein is bad, but to turn aside from the cause of God, and to have no faith in Him, and in the Sacred Temple, and to drive out its people, is worse in the sight of God; and civil strife is worse than bloodshed. They will not cease to war against you until they turn you from your religion, if they be able: but whoever of you shall turn from his religion and die an infidel, their works shall be fruitless in this world, and in the next: they shall be consigned to the fire; therein to abide for aye.

Sale They will ask thee concerning the sacred month, [whether they may] war therein: Answer, to war therein is grievous; but to obstruct the way of God, and infidelity towards him, and [to keep men] from the holy temple, and to drive out his people from thence, is more grievous in the sight of God, and the temptation [to idolatry] is more grievous than to kill [in the sacred months]. They will not cease to war against you, until they turn you from your religion, if they be able: But whoever among you shall turn back from his religion, and die an infidel, their works shall be vain in this world, and the next; they shall be the companions of [hell] fire, they shall remain therein for ever.

Transliterated Arabic Yas-aloonaka AAani alshshahri alharami qitalin feehi qul qitalun feehi kabeerun wasaddun AAan sabeeli Allahi wakufrun bihi waalmasjidi alharami wa-ikhraju ahlihi minhu akbaru AAinda Allahi waalfitnatu akbaru mina alqatli wala yazaloona yuqatiloonakum hatta yaruddookum AAan deenikum ini istataAAoo waman yartadid minkum AAan deenihi fayamut wahuwa kafirun faola-ika habitat aAAmaluhum fee alddunya waal-akhirati waola-ika as-habu alnnari hum feeha khalidoona

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 20, 2007 2:56 AM

wrathofasma:

Hehehehe.

Talk about Mo-HAM-mad, piss be upon him!

Posted by: allat [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 20, 2007 4:45 PM

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