Muslims continuing their attack on infidel Muslims...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 19, 2007 10:55 AM

Well, we are not singled out.

Muslims hate Muslims as much as they hate us.

Muslim actions are proof over all rhetoric. Let the world see it for themselves.

Posted by: sounder at April 19, 2007 11:12 AM

The Mujahedeen are only trying to bring peace and prosperity to Baghdaad after they clean it of 'filth' 'shits' and kick out the crusader forces spear-headed by the Assmericunts

Posted by: Abdullah at April 19, 2007 11:19 AM

Meanwhile, the Toronto Star's editor emeritus, the egregious Haroun Siddiqui is on the stump selling his whining tome about how under seige the ummah is by the 5 billion others who inhabit the planet.

Over on MEMRI.org a number of Algerian and Arab journalists, however, put the blame where it lies, and it's not on the 5 billion other, or on poverty:

Director General of Al-Arabiya TV: The Terrorists Are Not Motivated by Poverty or by Lack of Democracy, but by Religious Extremism

The attacks in Algeria and Casablanca also made the headlines in the international Arabic press. In an April 15 editorial in Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, Director General of Al-Arabiya TV 'Abd Al-Rahman Al-Rashed, wrote:

"I listened with annoyance to the same questions over and over when analyzing the terrorist incidents in our region, when the presenter at the international [TV] station said: 'Don't you think that the three incidents in Casablanca have in common that they occurred in a poor region, and that those who carried them out came from a poor neighborhood? Don't you see that [what] ties them together is poverty?'

"And in the analysis of the Algerian incident, the Western press came out and pointed to the problem of democracy in Algeria and its connection to what happened on that bloody day.

"I say that I was annoyed, because [this is] a situation that has become repeated and which has gone on for more than a decade, and in which the personalities [involved] are well-known, and whose literature has spread in all languages...

"Bin Laden, his associate Al-Zawahiri, and others are people from rich families - rich, and not just well off. In addition, none of the terrorists, despite there being thousands of them... speaks about the issue of poverty, nor do they call for elections - to the contrary, they describe elections as heresy that must be combated.

"True, there is poverty in Morocco, and a political struggle in Algeria, and the region is full of grave issues that need to be faced, from corruption to political monopoly to totalitarian regimes... but these bombings were terrorist acts that are related to issues of another kind, and have nothing to do with poverty or elections. This is a war of people who are religious extremists."

"If the Americans Left Iraq Tonight, and the Jews Fled Palestine, and Extremist Governments were Established… This Would Not Satisfy Them"

"To make the picture clearer… This religious war has nothing to do even with the major issues, slogans [related to which] are raised in the terrorists' literature itself, like Palestine, Iraq, the U.S., etc. These are people who want martyrdom, that is, they want [to fight] war, anywhere in the world, and for any cause that has a religious angle. They want to go quickly to Paradise.

"They are not fighting for money, public reform, or for… the environment, and they are not nationalists, pan-Arabists, or communists… They are not jokers, hippies, or oppositionists. They are seekers of martyrdom, meaning that they are in a hurry to go to Paradise. They are not interested in the life of this world, and they want to take with them to the grave the greatest number of people possible.

"I know that this is an issue that is difficult for the Westerner to understand. It is also difficult for many of the Muslims themselves to accept this, and they always try to justify it with… issues that they consider legitimate and comprehensible.

"[But] the truth is that these [terrorists] want death for the sake of Allah… That is, even if the Americans left Iraq tonight, and the Jews fled Palestine, and extremist religious governments were established in Morocco, Algeria, and Egypt - this would not satisfy them… They want Paradise, and for this they will travel to the ends of the earth, to the North Pole and the South Pole, to fight the infidels, whose numbers, in their view, are five billion." [10]

Read it all:

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154607

Posted by: waterdragon52 at April 19, 2007 11:21 AM

Islam: "Strike at their necks".

Normal religions: "Be compassionate".

Result: "holy terrorism" versus "human self-preservation fighting against theocratic tyranny".

The West already went through its centuries of useless "holy wars" and decided to remove organized religions from control in earthly governing.

Because the impulse to egomaniacal viciousness- inherent in the animal Man- cannot be trusted to restrain itself when given the excuse to exercise "eternal and absolute" power. (Using the mask of a "God" to disguise one's own homicidal urges.)

When you believe your "God" allows you to kill everybody who disagrees, you're mad.

This is a battle between those who have some historically learned-humility about the dark nature of unexamined human impulses and those who think that they are "perfect" instruments of a "perfect God". (And whose belief system is beyond scrutiny or critical analysis. Or, "Allah"-forbid, doubt.)

No man- or woman- is or ever was "perfect". And no "perfect God" is worth killing for.

Such a deity is perfectly monstrous.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 19, 2007 11:35 AM

Abdullah says the muhajadumb want to bring peace and prosperity to Iraq. I can't think of anyplace these folks have brought anything but death and destruction. But of course the Great Satan and the jooz are always blocking progress. Get an after-life, Abdullah.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at April 19, 2007 11:41 AM

Does anybody have a clue as to what the birth rate is in Iraq? Will it be god news or bad news?

Posted by: Pelayo at April 19, 2007 11:45 AM

"They are not fighting for money, public reform, or for… the environment, and they are not nationalists, pan-Arabists, or communists… They are not jokers, hippies, or oppositionists. They are seekers of martyrdom, meaning that they are in a hurry to go to Paradise. They are not interested in the life of this world, and they want to take with them to the grave the greatest number of people possible.

"I know that this is an issue that is difficult for the Westerner to understand. It is also difficult for many of the Muslims themselves to accept this, and they always try to justify it with… issues that they consider legitimate and comprehensible.

"[But] the truth is that these [terrorists] want death for the sake of Allah… That is, even if the Americans left Iraq tonight, and the Jews fled Palestine, and extremist religious governments were established in Morocco, Algeria, and Egypt - this would not satisfy them… They want Paradise, and for this they will travel to the ends of the earth, to the North Pole and the South Pole, to fight the infidels, whose numbers, in their view, are five billion."
-- from a posting above, quoting an April 15 editorial in Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, by Director General of Al-Arabiya TV 'Abd Al-Rahman Al-Rashed

Just wanted to repeat the key paragrphs one more time, and hope that others will look closely at them, and go to the link helpfully put up above by "waterdragon."

Posted by: Hugh at April 19, 2007 11:48 AM

"The Mujahedeen are only trying to bring peace and prosperity to Baghdaad after they clean it of 'filth' 'shits' and kick out the crusader forces spear-headed by the Assmericunts"
Posted by: Abdullah

Nice talk, Abdullard. You're just showing how ignorant and filthy minded you are.

Yep, blowing up innnocent civilains is definitely the way to bring peace and prosperity to Iraq.
How long will the Americans and the other coalition forces put up with this ?

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at April 19, 2007 11:53 AM

Hugh,

The Mujahedeen are only trying to bring peace and prosperity to Baghdaad

Posted by: Abdullah

I don’t think there is any justification to let the turd publish his obscenities on your webside. Let him smear his filth on the walls of the public toilets.

Please, chuck out the mad pig.

Posted by: thomas. h at April 19, 2007 12:25 PM

ABC actually reported this correctly in this was al Qaeda and not Sunni as the AP is part of the Islamocommunist agenda trying to install a new communist regime in Iraq.

No one will believe it, but as ABC noted in their report this is still an attempt by al Qaeda to get a civil war going in Iraq which is failing.

The Sunni and Shia are not killing each other in mass fighting any more. The center as Fuoad Ajami is setting for a national Iraqi mindset. That is why the attacks are taking place for civilian mass deaths. al Qaeda is trying via Iran to bring the Shia out of their trenches as the Sadr groups have factionalized and are making peace with the Iraqi government..

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 19, 2007 1:04 PM

"[But] the truth is that these [terrorists] want death for the sake of Allah…

With these examples of muslims killing each other faster than any birthrate muslilms can rest assured they will not surive.
hey Abdullah why dont you go to paradise and join your comrades, and be at least half a muslim you profess to be.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 19, 2007 1:08 PM

l meant to post that the differences we have in the West, we cherish life, and mourn the deaths of our loved ones, note the mourning for the students gunned down. while in the ME when muslims kill each other or anyone else, they say its allah's will. the "Christian God" gives humans free will/choice in our daily lives, and we surive and improve when we make good choices. we do not give blame to others, unless your a liberal, but understand we are the master's of our own future, not some black rock moon god in mecca.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 19, 2007 1:13 PM

ZenaWarriorPrincess - "the "ChristianGod" gives humans free will/choice in our daily lives"

If God didn't take feel like taking the time to create good or bad, why would God have created free will?

Posted by: feralcat9 at April 19, 2007 1:41 PM

"The Mujahedeen are only trying to bring peace and prosperity to Baghdaad after they clean it of 'filth' 'sh*ts' and kick out the crusader forces spear-headed by the A..."

I won't repeat your obscenities. I suppose you believe you are holy and pleasing to allah, practicing your religion in a way that makes you acceptable to him.

Interesting that it appears you believe your cursing doesn't displease your god.

When I do it, it grieves mine. That's because the Lord God Jahweh is truly holy.

Posted by: Stand fast in the liberty at April 19, 2007 1:44 PM

Please, chuck out the mad pig.
Posted by: thomas. h at April 19, 2007 12:25 PM

I appreciate where you are coming from in regards to Abdullah, but I would rather he was allowed to post here, it is a good reminder as to what lowlifes we are facing.

I say let the pig stay.

Posted by: km at April 19, 2007 1:47 PM

Oink, oink, ditto, km

Posted by: Stand fast in the liberty at April 19, 2007 1:50 PM

memo to abdullah:

Your lies won't work here. We are all simply smarter and better informed than you are in every way imaginable.

Prosperity and peace are anathema to Islam in every way possible. For example:

Peace??? The Shia and Sunni have been at war since the 700s. The kuran even tells Muslims to attack each other! (And they do! Saddam Hussein attacked Iranin 1980 and killed 4 million people--my HOW PEACEFUL IS THAT???!!!??).

Prosperity? Islam produces nothing but jihad warriors and "religion" and always has. Not exactly the requisites for propserity.

Prosperity ONLY existed historically when Muslims looted civilizations they could conquer including Hindustan, Egypt, central Asia, the Berbers, and Eastern Europe, the mediterranean and the Levant. When the Muslims ran out of nations to loot they went belly up. the poverty of Islamia is testament to this historical reality.

Posted by: pythagoras at April 19, 2007 2:12 PM

Has Abdullah gone?

Typical cowardly Muslim.

Posted by: km at April 19, 2007 2:22 PM

Sale at all major stores: "Abdullah-Be-Gone: $1.98"

Posted by: sounder at April 19, 2007 2:37 PM

"Has Abdullah gone?

Typical cowardly Muslim.

Posted by: km "

......someone else mentioned it, and I concur...Abby is not one person..probably a group of people....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 19, 2007 2:37 PM

If God didn't take feel like taking the time to create good or bad, why would God have created free will?
Posted by: feralcat9

it is self explanatory, you chose your life the way you want to lead it, therefore you take responsibilty for your actions, you cannot say this allah thing made me do it. you own up to your deeds.
l know it might be difficult for someone who is use to blaming all others for their predictments, it is your choice feralcat9

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 19, 2007 3:44 PM

ZenaWarriorPrincess - "it is self explanatory"

So, in other words, you don't know either.

"l know it might be difficult for someone who is use to blaming all others for their predictments, it is your choice feralcat9"

Is ALL THAT somehow "self explanatory" too?

Posted by: feralcat9 at April 19, 2007 4:10 PM

why would God have created free will?

Free will was created so that we would freely and of our own will choose God. It is an incredible expression of God's love for us. Why? Because giving us free will gives us the ability to freely choose or freely reject God. It is this free will that makes us his sons and daughters, not slaves. A slave has no free will, a slave cannot choose.

This incrediable gift of free will allows us to express our love to God by worshipping Him because we choose to out of love. When you decide to worship God when you have the choice not to, you are expressing your love for Him in the greatest way.

Here is a good analogy of in my mind poses a major difference between Islam and Christianity:

As a parent, do you want your child to obey you out of love or fear? If your child says to you, I will do this because I am afraid of you, what does that say of the child/parent relationship? It's certianly not the relationship I want with my son.

But if your child says, I will do this because I love you and I believe that you know what's best for me even though I don't understand, what does that say about the parent? what does that say about the child?

Posted by: adobe at April 19, 2007 4:45 PM

Abdullah my gift to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpKlbhpfYL8

Posted by: km at April 19, 2007 5:34 PM

The whole point in Iraq is to pacify it enough so Our Forces can attend to Iran.

Iran knows this but they still had to have their flunky come for an extended stay.

At some point, all of Iran's flunky's will feel cold hot Steel.

Look for the Rollie Pollie one in Black coming home to Iraq to get the party started in earnest

Posted by: flowerknife_us at April 19, 2007 5:52 PM

I even wonder if they have set up anything that proves residence! For they should keep all non residents out during this sensitive time. It is Iran's influence-Sadr. He probably kidnapps these people and lets them go and they must not tell and do their dirty work. For everyone should be dead by now..., how many they keep killing.

Posted by: MZ at April 19, 2007 7:47 PM

What is really sickening I can predict it will happen tomorrow the next day and the next! Something needs to change, something is wrong why this is happening besides our enemies our two faced liers and are bloody killers of innocents!

Posted by: MZ at April 19, 2007 7:50 PM

Desperation (on their part) MZ...
complete, sheer, utter desperation on their part...again, as every other bombing before it.

It's about preserving their absolute power and control imam racket...the terrorists seek to prevent us breaking that 1,400 year racket once and for all as is the idea...as well as trying to settle old scores in the process.

As I stated elsewhere before, theyknow they MUST win...or they lose _everything_, and that would also include their very own religion if it does not reform.
It's no different than when nazi germany in late 1944 with the battle of the bulge, & faced imminent collapse in 1945, especially the battle of berlin vs the russians (only difference there is the fact of the russian retribution factor, which is NOT the case with our forces in iraq)...they knew they MUST win...or they lose everything.

If they weren't facing imminent collapse of such status quo, they wouldn't be resorting to such deseration tactics vs our forces, and the sunni sect worries that they'll be left out of power in iraq, as well as possible violent retribution for ages of opression they wrought upon the shi'ite majority, and so on...an endless circle of violence that people can't let go of.

Yes, it is a mayriad composite of factors, but one thing they all agree on...if they can't force our militaries out, they're finished, period.
Iran also knows this as his own populace sees this, and would love nothing more than to kill his sorry munchkin ass-it would also spell the end of the mullah-ocracy racket...then you also have the "soviet saudi states of arabia" (meaning a literal form, not really a commie state) where you also have 70% who hates the royal families guts, and would kill them all if given the chance, and the entire house of saud would collapse, fragmenting the entire arabian penninsula (an even worse power & control setup than saudi if you can imagine that, which is why they're considered lesser of the evils, though not by much)...

...if all these happen, or even 2 of 3, it also means the end of the entire powerbase as an effective racket itself, forcing the mOslem realm to either reform to keep what power it has left, or collapse under it's own totalitarian weight.

Either way, there it is...and that's just an abstract/summary.

Posted by: jcom972 at April 20, 2007 4:18 PM