...as usual, I have not seen any reports on any of the MSM TV networks.....

and

"Abu Sayyaf commander Al Bader Parad, who seized the seven men, had earlier demanded a ransom of five million pesos ($125,000) for the hostages..."

why work like a fisherman or a road construction crew member when you can be a murderer and just demand ransom....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 20, 2007 10:14 AM

Will the Philippines ever be able to wipe this group out? They've been fighting with them for years and even with some American support, but it doesn't end.

Posted by: sci_ at April 20, 2007 10:35 AM

IT IS TIME TO BAN THE QURAN!

Posted by: MZ at April 20, 2007 10:55 AM

Where are our wonderful Islamic apologist trolls to try to justify this one?

I'm sure "crusadertothecore" will pop in here later to divert the subject by telling us about another "Christian terrorist", sans source as always. Yawn.

Posted by: staff_of_magius at April 20, 2007 11:00 AM

Obviously, we have to have a dialogue with these messangers of peace. Do you think Nancy Pelosi might have some free time to rush on out there?

Posted by: RIslander at April 20, 2007 11:33 AM

"Will the Philippines ever be able to wipe this group out? They've been fighting with them for years and even with some American support, but it doesn't end."

1) the mindanao problem has been around for generations. It's a cultural as well as religious class between native moros and christian settlers.

2) the issue is being used by Al Queda and JI to cause more trouble in Mindanao.

3) Not all the muslims support the rebels. The rebels come in various shades:

MNLF - Recognized by the OIC and is the "legit" representatives of the muslims on the issue. A truce exists between the MNLF and the government.

MILF - More radical than the MNLF. still willing to fight the government but keep hinting about talking peace.

Abu Sayyaf - Al Queda linked, the ones who do kidnapping, beheading, etc. This group is actually dwindling, as Phil. forces have been killing them in firefights.

Dozens of small groups loosely align to either of the three or operating independently.

4) Due to foreign funding, the muslim rebels are as well armed as the Phil. military. They have artillery, mortars, RPGs, etc. They aren't ragtag groups but actual armies. The only factor giving the Phil. military the edge over them is air support, via helicopter gunship.The US should give the Phil.military more help with ships and aircraft.

5)There are several muslim tribes in the region and differ in character.For example, the Maranao are the businessmen and traders while the Tausug are those who are always itching to fight. There are many muslims groups that are supposedly neutral and some don't support the rebellion. But of course they will always side with their kind over the government.

6) the relationship of the different groups is both tribal, filial and religious. The islamic countries recognize and protect the MNLF and to some extent the MILF. When the Phil. military chases the Abu Sayyaf, the Abus run to the MILF or MNLF areas, where they know the military can't chase them, less they trigger a larger war that the islamic countries will support.

Let me say this: I fully support the Phil.government and I hope every single one of the abus is killed and skinned alive. But the problem in mindanao is huge and it isn't as easy as most people think.

Posted by: island Guy at April 20, 2007 12:02 PM

All I can say is SICK and EVIL......

Posted by: Bonniea at April 20, 2007 12:06 PM

It's in the "perfect" and "eternal" Koran:

"Strike off their heads..."

Lovely little "religion".

Almost like a parody of Judeo-Christianity written by a devil.

What would the opposite of "Blessed are the peacemakers..." be?

"War is deceit."

Demon est deus inversus.

The Devil is God turned upside down.

As Islam is the religion of Abraham turned on its head.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 20, 2007 12:16 PM

Seven Christians = Heaven bound

Jihadists = Hell bound

Posted by: champ at April 20, 2007 12:21 PM

What is the reason that the MSM doesn't report this, and the other Islamist activity that happens all over the world? I just don't get it. You would think the journalist pledge would state a devotion to reporting the facts without judgement so the population could be informed to come to majority and drive our politicians to manage. I really don't believe the MSM is oppressed by the government to hide such issues. But not one popular corespondent is willing to step up and report these stories that JW and other sites have every day. Why is that?

Posted by: Abrog8 at April 20, 2007 12:27 PM

If the Philippines had a Marcos, this problem could be rooted out 98% in a years operation. The reason that this goes on is like America the Philippines has a socialist body trying kinder and gentler methods.

The Philippines is jungle type warfare like Vietnam. It is winable, but 3 measures would need to be implemented.

1. Cordon the area off by spraying herbicide in a mile wide dead zone monitored by infared, motion sensors, mines, razor wire and shoot to kill orders.

2. Systematic "pie" zones created by herbicide with sensors and firebases gaurding said hot zones with shoot to kill orders.

3. A massive sweep of hammer and anvil which means driving the terrorists before the army hammer to be smashed against the anvil of heavy armour and helo support.

The remaining rebel families would be villaged off and westernized.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 20, 2007 12:30 PM

Yeah, these were moderate beheadings....

Posted by: Jan Vink at April 20, 2007 12:47 PM

Cutting off heads is a brutal way to kill and the act intimidates, which is the purpose. The response should be to raise the ante on them if the PI army has the ability to deliver. Allowing these acts to go unanswered invites more of the same...too bad but true, as Israel has known for 50 years or more.

Posted by: pismopal at April 20, 2007 1:02 PM

Schools in the Philippines still teach that Islam is peace and misunderstood. Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Oyobear at April 20, 2007 1:15 PM

I'd like to see some dhimmi-Euros try to blame THIS horror on Israel!

Posted by: pythagoras at April 20, 2007 1:38 PM

stone-agers

Posted by: MP at April 20, 2007 1:53 PM

Are these new heads or old ones ? their are somemany heads coming off I cant keep track!

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at April 20, 2007 2:01 PM

Oh and when Hitlery becomes President..

you fill in the rest.. my imagination is running wild.. not in a good way either..

She kissed Arafart's wife for Chrissakes.. and then Hubby Bill went on to wag the dog in the Balkans.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 20, 2007 2:05 PM

What would anyone think of a group of people that go around carrying a book and if you do something they can strike out at you and say it's in my book! Even behead you! Burn you and hang you from a bridge for all to see don't f' with ME! We WILL do as WE please! My book does not include you only to destroy you where ever you are! We carry it on airplanes and bow to our "god"! You have to respect us though, it is a religion!

Posted by: MZ at April 20, 2007 2:42 PM

I wonder if this is the group of people I saw on tv in the middle of the night! They showed them tied and bound! Beheaded them and taped it! This time it was south of us and I know they do it in Mexico too. Scum low IQ bastards-cowards!

Posted by: MZ at April 20, 2007 2:47 PM

l am told by my liberal brother and sister (univ.degrees, real smart eh) that if only Israel problem would end, blah blah, then the muslim problem would be solved, or once they come to the WEst (Canada) the younger generation will become Westernized, blah blah. lhave shown them and sent them posts of this site and others, and all l get is your a racist, blah blah. Until the government of the Philippines,India and rest of the world understand the true nature of islam, there will be forever problems with these islamist. Fortunately we in the West who take the time to read the koran, hadths, understand the problem and eventually the koran/islam will be banished.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 20, 2007 2:53 PM

These atrocities will not end until Islam is beheaded.

Posted by: David England at April 20, 2007 3:15 PM

Islam is destroying the world....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 20, 2007 3:34 PM

The Blackhole known as Islam.

Posted by: champ at April 20, 2007 3:40 PM

Check this @

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25194_Mujahideen_Child_Abuse#comments

Posted by: turn at April 20, 2007 3:44 PM

Revelation 20

4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
-------------------------

A sign of the times maybe, the armies of darkness spreading upon the cities of the earth?

Well for a start what has beheading got to do with Islam? Is it just co-incidence and why is there no definition of not allowing Islamic laws as an individual right to distinguish personal judgements and punishments? Well even if there were they are overshadowed by many atrocities and honours when doing so in the religion of Islam that it's hard to see between the smoke of incoherent literature.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at April 20, 2007 4:01 PM

But it's not the "Global War on Islam" for the victims or their families -- only if you are a "true Muslim" are you allowed such clarity and righteous indignation.

Unless you visit the Anvil. I never have been one for mincing words.

Sue me, or behead me or die trying.

Posted by: Foehammer at April 20, 2007 4:19 PM

"Well for a start what has beheading got to do with Islam?"

Posted by: jesusisthelamb

"Islam is the only major world religion today that is cited by both state and non-state actors to legitimize beheadings. And two major aspects of decapitation in an Islamic context should be noted: first, the practice has both Qur'anic and historical sanction. It is not the product of a fabricated tradition. Second, in contradiction to the assertions of apologists, both Muslim and non-Muslim, these beheadings are not simply a brutal method of drawing attention to the Islamist political agenda and weakening opponents' will to fight. Zarqawi and other Islamists who practice decapitation believe that God has ordained them to obliterate their enemies in this manner. Islam is, for this determined minority of Muslims, anything but a "religion of peace." It is, rather, a religion of the sword with the blade forever at the throat of the unbeliever."

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 20, 2007 4:21 PM

exsgtbrown:

Exactly, because according to Prophecies some future leader will one day start infidel execution to all Christians on Earth, he will have great power to do so even super natural ones. So to call it an act of God is exactly what the Anti-Christ is like, hence my Revelation 20:4 verse. I know it sounds off topic but it's interesting that like this it's one of many prophecies that could be becoming the norm and back in fashion is the sword usually against Christians by majority as African nations over taken by Islam all decapitate the Christians who in turn do not worship the Beast as in proper forced down worship.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb at April 20, 2007 4:43 PM

ok gun control freaks....multiple murders can be accomplished without guns.....

....Islamic wackos kill many with just the sword and the machete...

....in africa, the hutus and tutsis frequently slaughtered thousands with nothing but the spear and the machete....

.....if some of these victims had guns things may have been different.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 20, 2007 4:44 PM

Hi Zena:

Your frustration with your family is understandable. We've been brought up to live-and-let-live, to scorn bigotry and bigotry is worthy only of scorn. It has no place in modern Western societies. But your brother and sister are exhibiting a curious strain of prejuidice of their own, one that assumes that they can't possibly be the target of bigotry themselves. How could they be? They're Canadian right? And for crying out loud, everybody loves Canadians!

Wrong. There are people who come to the West with the intention not of making a good life for themselves and fitting in but with the intention of making a good life for themselves while remaining detached and antagonistic to the wider population. That is, they come with the intention to live in discrimination, at first separate but equal but later separate and with increasing concessions made to their communities. Apartheid. reverse Jim Crow. And not at all desirable. Not if the West is to be an open society that is free from bigotry.

The West is being tested. Tolerance is being tested by the intolerant. The law must be upheld for all. Moslems must be able to practice their religion without harrassment so long as they obey the law. But if certain Moslems -or anyone for that matter- are guilty of breaking the law, the penalities must be swift, sure and fair. Long-term imprisonment and loss of citizenship for treasonable actions seems totally appropriate to me.

When your siblings declare that it will only take a generation or two before these people fully integrate, ask them whether the attack of the Mississauga journalists by fanatics is really so different in substance from the story above. Then ask if their fair prognosis also extends to the Khadr family also living in Toronto and their ilk. I'd really like to know what your brother and sister think about that.

Posted by: Chatillon at April 20, 2007 4:59 PM

The cancerous scourge of Islam carries on, unchecked.

Posted by: sounder at April 20, 2007 5:03 PM

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016101.php

Researchers were surprised, according to this article by Alisa Tang for Associated Press, that "most anger over civilian deaths

Yea the beheading on IT tv over the Easter break did have an affect and of course the mulsums cutting off the heads of 3 Christians who were just printing books did have a huge effect funny how that works???

Of course those in Europe are talking about the ismail factor after all didn't mo-ham-od say he was a descendant??

Funny how all that stuff works

http://www.beecy.net/frank/

funny how the MSM gets how they are creating copy cats but the video by the islamic terrorist they show over and over with glee now does this mean they [MSM] aids and abets the enemy??

In my book it does where is the outrage?

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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AN ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at April 20, 2007 5:13 PM

Removing someone's head does not mean that you've removed the Truth of Jesus Christ from their heart. This is a Win/Win for these seven Christians; and a Lose/Lose for Islam.

Posted by: champ at April 20, 2007 5:19 PM

How about we line up those miserable, terrorist scumbuckets in Gitmo, chop their heads off and film it, then send the videotape, along with the heads, to Al-Jazeera, C.O.D.

Posted by: jewdog at April 20, 2007 5:25 PM

Really I'm reading a book now that puts all this stuff in to an easy read?

By Joel Richardson
"anti Christ Islam's awaited Messiah"

He did leave a few things out but did get the jest very well

Now there is hope.

And how to fight is all in the book they so much want to destroy?

kind of like the nazis burning all them books thinking ???

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER AMEN

PS
back somewhat from outer space..

and Pinnoico was not a mlsum

Posted by: Catherine at April 20, 2007 5:31 PM

Islamic practices never stop to amaze me. Chopping people off or chopping their heads off is a typical trade mark of Islam.

They are a bunch of mal-borne sickHeads.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at April 20, 2007 5:49 PM

The easiest, clean-handed way to deal with captured islamists at Gitmo is,
1. We glean any info we can from them.
2. We release them back to their country of origin. When we take them back we make sure to dress them in nice clothes give them a pocketful of money fly them back making a spectacular show of it, the red carpet treatment with a big backslap and grins all round as they go.

We all know they are extremely suspicious and conspiracy theorists extraordinaire, naturally their islamist pals are going to suspect that they cooperated with us. Well thats the end of that one, we will know when we see the video they make of it.

Posted by: tgusa at April 20, 2007 5:50 PM

The term leathernecks, the nickname of the U.S. Marine Corps, derives from the Barbary Wars, when founding father Thomas Jefferson was forced to send the U.S. Navy into the Mediterranean to protect American merchant ships from marauding Jihadi corvettes.

The Moslems had gotten into the habit of pirating American ships, stealing the cargo, and selling early Americans off into slavery along the Maghreb.

* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *

All in the name of 33:21, of course.

After suffering so many partial and complete decapitations, the U.S. Navy admiral improvised by cloaking the Marines' necks in thick leather during battles.

Didn't really help, though. Too many broken necks. So they loaded extra large on the canons and blew the Moslems out of the water.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at April 20, 2007 5:51 PM

Luke 11:17 – 11:23 But he know their thoughts said: Every kingdom divided against its self is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. If Satan also is divided against himself how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub by whom do you sons cast them out?? Therefore They will be your Judges. But I cast out demons with the finger of God surly the Kingdom of God has come upon you. When a Strong Man Fully armed guards his own place, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him taken from him all his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoils.
Luke 11:23 He who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters.
Luke 22:35
And he said to them when I sent you without moneybag, knapsack and sandals did you lake anything: so they said Nothing then he said to them But now who has a moneybag let him take it and likewise a knapsack and he who has no sword let him sell his garments and buy one: 22:27 For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me and he was numbered whit the transgressors for the things concerning me have an end

AND THEN THERE IS THIS??
Ecclesiastes5:8-14
Walk in the light
For you once darkness but now you are light in the lord walk as children of light. [for the fruit of the spirit is in goodness, righteousness, and truth]
Find out what is acceptable to the Lord your God and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of Darkness, But rather EXPOSE them.
12] For it is shameful ever to speak of those things which are done by them in secret [mussis are changing our laws so we can’t. look at the 2 Christians in Pa. and look at the 2 Christians in Australia put in jail for speaking out]
13] But all things that are exposed are made to manifest by the light, For whatever makes manifest is light. [If it is in the light it can been seen and be dealt with]
14] Therefore he says
AWAKE, You who sleep arise from the Dead
And the Lord your God will give you light in the Darkness
6:10] Finally my Brethren be strong in the Lord your God and in the Power of his might
11] Put on the whole armor of God, That you may be able to Stand against the wiles of the Devil
13] Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to with stand in the Evil day and having done all to Stand.
16] Above all, taking the Shield of Faith with which you will be able to quench all the Fiery Darts of the Wicked ones.
REMEMBER
Luke 22:36] Then he said to them,” But now, he who has a moneybag let him take it and like wise a knapsack and he who has no SWORD let him sell his garment and Buy one.
37] For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished to me and he was numbered with the transgressors”

Posted by: Catherine at April 20, 2007 6:03 PM

Where are our Muslim trolls in support of this heinous crime? They run and hide like cockroaches whenever Islam rears it's ugly head. Come on cockroach, what do you have to say now?

MZ --

You stated, "Ban the Qur'an!" Do a Google search, and you will find petitions out there for banning this book of hate/manual for murder.

Posted by: champ at April 20, 2007 6:06 PM

If the Philippines had a Marcos, this problem could be rooted out 98% in a years operation. The reason that this goes on is like America the Philippines has a socialist body trying kinder and gentler methods.

The Philippines is jungle type warfare like Vietnam. It is winable, but 3 measures would need to be implemented.

1. Cordon the area off by spraying herbicide in a mile wide dead zone monitored by infared, motion sensors, mines, razor wire and shoot to kill orders.

2. Systematic "pie" zones created by herbicide with sensors and firebases gaurding said hot zones
with shoot to kill orders.

3. A massive sweep of hammer and anvil which means driving the terrorists before the army hammer to be smashed against the anvil of heavy armour and helo support.

The remaining rebel families would be villaged off and westernized.

You cannot win against these idiots by employing Vietnam tactics. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.

The use of Agent Orange had no discernable effect on the Viet Cong. And the use of sensors and even heavy bombers did not halt the supply of weapons etc coming down the Ho Chi Minh trail.

The problem with firebases is that they have to be supplied by air, which was hard enough thirty years ago. Firebases also offer a fixed target for the enemy to concentrate upon, which is not usually a good thing because your enemy can build his forces to match yours before he attacks. You are static and that means he has all day to plan his assault.

Your assumption that placing a division to the rear and then pushing through will in my opinion achieve nothing. What does a jihadi without a gun look like?

Has for “villaged” I am assuming you mean something like the Strategic Hamlet program. That only caused the locals to hate the US for uprooting them from there homes.

In my humble opinion the best way to deal with Viet Cong types is to send small parties of proper soldiers, and I don’t mean the gung ho types to live with the locals and guarantee the chief chicken killer in each village that we will let them get on with their lives while we provide them with some amenities that they desire. Not dams and democracy, just what they need. Two RIB’s and a case of clockwork radios would do.

Vietnam failed for many reasons, but I am sure that if an outsider dropped a daisy cutter on the hill down the road from me, and then helo’d in a battery of 155mm, then I would think they were a bunch of Cnuts. If they burned down my lovely countryside to create fields of fire then I might even judge them as being as bad as Bliar.

But if they turned up and asked if they could camp in my garden in return for a new boat, tin of beans and a friendly natter, I might like them and help them out.

The body count means nothing but heartache for both sides.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 6:22 PM

Vietnam failed for many reasons, but I am sure that if an outsider dropped a daisy cutter on the hill down the road from me, and then helo’d in a battery of 155mm, then I would think they were a bunch of Cnuts. If they burned down my lovely countryside to create fields of fire then I might even judge them as being as bad as Bliar.

But if they turned up and asked if they could camp in my garden in return for a new boat, tin of beans and a friendly natter, I might like them and help them out.

The body count means nothing but heartache for both sides.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 06:22 PM

BETTER THEIR HEARTS BE ACKING THEN OURS!!

guess you haven't been keepping up on current events latly with your head in the sand in all but we got a big hole in NYC I didn't hear about no beans or a boat??

Just saw some pscho mulsums flying planes into buildings also heard about pscho mulsums blowen up some trains in spain, then also hear about some pscho mulsums blowen up some part people in balia stil no news on beans and boats??

Now if you be talken about another BJ Pershin I be with you!!

somehow I don't think these poor 7 humans who had their heads cut off by some pscho mulsum wouldn't give these monsters some beans.

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Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS

GUESS you don't think the pscho mulsums who blew-up you tube hurt your countryside?

Posted by: Catherine at April 20, 2007 6:39 PM

Vietnam failed for many reasons,
Mert, it is well known why the US left Vietnam with tail tucked, it was the DC beltway politicians.. years after N.Vietamese generals said they had lost the war militarily, but in the end it was lost because of the US politicians. the Demoncrats are traitors to the core, and they shoud tried for treason, especially the senator from Nevada! and many more beside him.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 20, 2007 6:55 PM

then ask if their fair prognosis also extends to the Khadr family also living in Toronto and their ilk. I'd really like to know what your brother and sister think about that.
Posted by: Chatillon

actually after the Mississauga indident my older sister was in shock and was so distressed, but time passes,and they just think it is a tiny minority of muslims that are bad. lol...
l will not stop trying, my one older brother l actually think he blames all things on the Jews. so no thinking logically there, and he does not think islam is a threat in Canada.. and yes he is sucpposed to be educated! lol..

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 20, 2007 7:03 PM

Sorry Catherine but I was talking to Lame Cherry about the best way to defeat the jihadists in the Philippines. I fail to see the connection between Sadique Khan and the argument over the benefits of overwhelming force in a jungle environment.

And yes Zena I understand the reasons why America didn’t just roll over Hanoi and put Giap and Uncle Ho to the sword.

I just don’t buy the victory through superior firepower argument unless it is aimed at countries that are equal to our own in strength and therefore competing in total war.

Guerrilla warfare can’t be won with a big stick when you’re hitting the civilians with it too.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 7:14 PM

I would like to know, as would others, what anyone currently on the ground in South phillipines analyzes the situation. Are they at the point where mass explusion of muslims is considered even though it would never be approved by outside forces, (also since to be sure, technically muslims were the initial habits of the Phillipines). Are Fillipinos still trying the old "give them more money and land and maybe they'll leave us alone" strategy the West insists on using?

Also, how one one characterize the general Fillipino Muslim population? One poster mentioned the different types of tribes; how many of them sympathize the militant jihadists over the government and how many feel some type of genuine loyalty to their nation (I would guess extremely few belong in the latter group). Are muslims there mostly a bunch of Jew-Hating, Christian hating, inane worshippers of islamic terrorists like Zawahari, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah and Khomeini? Are they basically like the idiots elsewhere in the Islamic world blaming all the muslims failiures on "U.S. Imperialism" and protesting the U.S. and "Zionists" every other day, or are some of them able to have more intelligent outlooks?

Posted by: maxwell46&2 at April 20, 2007 7:28 PM

The tide will turn when just one country strictly curtails the activities of Islamic worshipers, in effect telling them how they may congregate and what they preach, and strictly controls Muslim immigration. But it will take many more outrages and a strengthening of nationalism (in both the good and bad senses) to set the stage.

What nation will have the strength to enact such measures? How threatened does anyone have to feel before they go down that road? Either the irhabis are counting on us to not have the social moxy to "go there" or they are anticipating it and counting on our provoked response. When people are more anxious to hear from their military leaders than from the MSM we will begin to make progress against the enemy.

It seems incredible but many Leftists continue to see beheading and Islamic violence as further evidence that we are doing something to provoke these peace-loving people. This circle of illogic must be broken.

Posted by: lycaste at April 20, 2007 7:43 PM

I also like Catherine’s diatribe against her perceived enemy when my British self has had to endure days of anti British bull from all quarters concerning the Navy 15.

Not that the recent burial of a young marine from my old school would have any effect on the Brit bashers on this site. They don’t care that we are dying at your side.

Hey but what’s the life of a young man who worked hard enough to earn the green beret and leaves a young lady who he loved behind in comparison to the cheap thrill of wanking off to the idea that Britain will be Muslim.

I notice that the slightest perceived slur on the American name brought me some hate.

Did Catherine defend Britain when we were having a shitty day?

What really pisses me off is the fact my dad works in Balad, my brother is on a Stryker contract in Germany and I got a divisional coin for putting 1st ID HDD onto the barges from Wurzburg. And still we Brits are called a bunch of wankers.

My bro was in Balad when it was known as Mortaritaville. He was taking rockets and mortars. He was also at Baghdad airport when the ammo dump went up.

The guy who is buying my mums house lost his nephew to an IED last April. He was ex army and went working in Iraq as a minder. £750 a day in pay, not worth it when your dead though.

Do I want us to win Catherine? God damn right I do.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 8:05 PM

Dismaying

Posted by: Abdullah at April 20, 2007 11:12 PM

Hadith Malik 511:1588 The last statement that Muhammad made was:

"O Lord, perish the Jews and Christians. They made churches of the graves of their prophets."

And the problem is just with a tiny minority of extremeists?

Hardly.

Posted by: sounder at April 20, 2007 11:22 PM

Catholic drug runners in Mexico always behead their rivals, but that doesn't seem to catch the attention of anyone. Bias, noooooooooooooooo.

Posted by: crusadertothecore at April 20, 2007 11:52 PM

Troll alert.

Posted by: butterfly at April 20, 2007 11:57 PM

If Samson killed all those Philistines with the jawbone of an ass, I wonder if the jawbone of a pig would be any use for sawing heads off: there is a proud tradition of decapitating Mohammedans in Europe - Corsica ringed its coast with the heads of Mussulmans on poles to warn off pirates of the head banging towards Mecca variety while all those pubs called the 'Saracen's Head' must be evidence of avid souvenir collecting by Crusaders. It's time we starting getting Old Testament with these murderous, religious crackpots.

By the way, Crap-talker-to-the-core: any Christian who decapitates anther human being in order to instil terror in others is acting off his own bat from his own innate sinfulness. There is no scripturall injunction to cut off heads, as in some slightly psychopathic religions I could mention.

Posted by: wallyUK at April 21, 2007 12:31 AM

If the so-called religion of Scientology can be recognized for its danger to society and proscribed by law in countries such as UK and Germany, Islam be banned in the exact same way for its mandate of savage attacks on infidels and fellow Muslims for the glory of Allah. Their motive is purely religion-based and is not atypical or even unrepresentative.

What the hell are we waiting for? Write your representatives today.

Posted by: lycaste at April 21, 2007 1:52 AM

I just don’t buy the victory through superior firepower argument unless it is aimed at countries that are equal to our own in strength and therefore competing in total war.

Guerrilla warfare can’t be won with a big stick when you’re hitting the civilians with it too.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 07:14 PM

GUESS you have really been out of touch with the real world??

How do you think your Britian was saved during WW2 it was not with bikes and sticks but with bigger and more bombs. Yes some inncent people got killed better look that up [just to make sure I'm right]Yep war is an ugly thing and there are real monsters in this world.

There are Brits who understand this Thank God for that.

Remember when good men do nothing evil will privail.

And looks like the world has been doing nothing for a long time so this evil has grown but is not to big to conqure as long as good men stand together to fight against these monsters.

Yep I say it is not just about beans and boats but these monsters want to control the world and change our way of life.

looks like you almost have your head out of the sand BUT remember if your head is in the sand it will just get your butt shot OFF

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH. WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

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Luke 11:17 – 11:23 But he know their thoughts said: Every kingdom divided against its self is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. If Satan also is divided against himself how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub by whom do you sons cast them out?? Therefore They will be your Judges. But I cast out demons with the finger of God surly the Kingdom of God has come upon you. When a Strong Man Fully armed guards his own place, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him taken from him all his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoils.

Posted by: Catherine at April 21, 2007 2:44 AM

island Guy

Just to say thanks, your post was the first informed report of the Philippine situation I have seen. The MSM in the UK just ignore it.

Posted by: Fred at April 21, 2007 2:50 AM

allah is most certainly the devil, and islam is his creations.
Jesus said "by their fruit you shall know them"
i guess we all can see the fruit of islam.complete satanic madness.

Posted by: ismail at April 21, 2007 4:04 AM

Mert, we have tried roughly what you have said in Iraq and Afghanistan. Has it worked? Has it heck! It doesn't follow that if you're nice to these savages, they'll be nice back to you. And as you have some sort of fetish for slagging off Blair, what do you think your 'precious' and 'wonderful' David 'Winston' (sarc) Cameron would do to improve our chances of finally defeating the Jihadis? Absolutely nothing. I can't recall him coming out with a single statement to encourage our troops or stiffen our resolve. The man is a vacuous empty shell, just like Menzies Campbell, all hat and no cattle, abnd hides from view hoping to take advantage of an "I wasn't in power" alibi. His fortune was that Blair was Prime Minister at the time of 911 when we knew we'd entered a different world, and took the rap for daring to respond to what a bunch of 19 Islamic savages did on that day. Just imagine, if we prosecuted World War II following your advice, we would have spent the last 67 years speaking German - that is, if we got the chance to be born.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at April 21, 2007 4:32 AM

Guerrilla warfare can’t be won with a big stick when you’re hitting the civilians with it too.

Posted by: Mert at April 20, 2007 07:14 PM

Where do you think these guerillas come from? Amongst the local civilian population. Who do you think supplies these guerillas? The local civilian population again. And who do you think provides them with shelter? Durr, need I ask? These are no-brainers. They don't mysteriously appear from another planet.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at April 21, 2007 4:49 AM

Guerrilla warfare can’t be won with a big stick when you’re hitting the civilians with it too.
Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 20, 2007 07:14 PM

how do you explain daily bombings of Dresden and bombing of Hiroshima? its take no prisoners. During the Civil War how did General Sherman fast track southern defeat on his famous drive through the south. in his words, he quickened the end of the war with total destruction of the his path in the south.
We need a General Sherman in Iraq/iran..

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 21, 2007 6:49 AM

"Guerrilla warfare can’t be won with a big stick when you’re hitting the civilians with it too."

Mert:

You're spot on with your observations. The "big stick" approach is appropriate for conventional warfare, but for asymmetric guerrilla scenarios, the big stick amounts to using a sledge hammer to crush flies. It's too costly, time consuming and ultimately demoralizing. Another approach is needed, more covert operations perhaps, certainly more selective use of brute force, maybe quick small unit actions. This is a street fight presently unfloding in front of TV cameras. Remove the opportunity for TV cameras to ahow up and you've already taken away the voice of teh enemy.

There's also the reverse money weapon. Little or no money should go towards propping up puppet governments. But more importantly, tracing worldwide financial connections by means of forensic accounting could help tear out the lifelines to the terrorists, something that the present US administration promised to do post-9/11. In principle, I think that the idea is sound: The accountants brought down Al Capone, so maybe they can serve Al Qaeda in the same fashion.

I'd really like to think that we're making progress on that front. I'm not sure how loudly any successes would be broadcast, however. First, one wouldn't want to announce progress prematurely and lose an opportunity to close down still more terrorist-related financial conduits. Second, it might be that such forensic accounting would uncover connections that would embarrass certain individuals in positions of power and influence. Third, it might be that no such efforts have even been seriously undertaken. I don't know. Nobody tells me anything. I just wonder what it means when I hear only crickets chirping everytime this question is raised.

Posted by: Chatillon at April 21, 2007 12:47 PM

Guerrilla warfare can be prevented. Why was there little guerrilla warfare in Germany in the early months of 1945? Because we had broken the will of the German people. And what eventually broke it? Reducing their cities to rubble. Taking the war directly to them. It is because we, out of political correctness and the foolish belief that we can 'win hearts and minds' have placed the lives of civilians who cheer our deaths above those of our own, and that has got us into this pickle. When you wage a war against a country, you are invariably waging it against their civilians as well as their military. The civilians man the home front. They supply their armed forces, and if their spirit isn't broken, they become guerrilla outfits.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at April 21, 2007 6:29 PM