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Stay tuned for the outcry, and I expect that it will come not just from Muslims on civil rights and victimization grounds, but from people, non-Muslim or Muslim, behaving in a manner that the camera deems suspicious, but who don't turn out to have been doing anything untoward. From WorldNetDaily.com, with thanks to D. C. Watson:
Britain's national security service MI5 is testing surveillance cameras in enclaves of London and other Muslim-dominated area of Britain where terrorists are known to operate.Based on the latest satellite technology, the $10,000 cameras have a ring of eight powerful lenses that can provide a panoramic view.
Software in the system can also indicate up to 50 behavior traits to identify a person "as a potential terrorist."
Within a year the cameras will be able to signify "facial movements indicating tension and other furtive behavior," confirmed an MI5 officer.
Known as "The Bug," the camera can pinpoint "individual groups loitering or acting in a suspicious manner," the officer added.
The moment a target is identified, a ninth lens mounted on the base of the system zooms in and follows every move of suspected individuals.
"It can track him down a street, in and out of a building and follow him as he drives away," said the MI5 officer.
The cameras have undergone exhaustive tests in Muslim areas of London, Bradford, Luton and other Midland cities.
Can telescreens be far behind?
Posted by Robert at April 21, 2007 5:02 AM
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Why, instead of this Orwellian measures, the UK government is simply not willing to purge the islamic communities from Wahabbi and Salafi elements?
Instead of fighting with the illness, they are only providing the painkillers.
Posted by: DoktorNo![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/nav-commenters.gif)
at April 21, 2007 5:22 AM
"Stay tuned for the outcry, and I expect that it will come not just from Muslims on civil rights and victimization grounds, but from people, non-Muslim "
Sir, I do agree with you, the non-muslims will cry murder. Here are a few questions I have to ask of the non-muslims (The phrase non-muslim" includes, but is not limited to, Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Atheists, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Jains and Hindus).
1. Do you think that sawing off the heads of animals makes for holy (halal) meat ?
2. Do you make your kids do it ?
3. Do you think that the world should be divided between the "Believers (of the last prophet) and the "Non - believers (Kaffirs)" ?
4. Do you think that killing the Kaffirs is all right and your last prophet has not only sanctioned it, but also beheaded thousands of people personally (for details refer to the hadith, the life and deeds of muhammad) ?
5. Do you think that 9 year old girls are old enough for sexual intercourse ? ( muhammad did it to Aisha, for details refer to the hadiths, the life and deed of muhammad, uswa hasana, al insan, al kamil (the perfect man to be emulated in all respects and deeds).
If you have answered "NO" to all of the above questions, please do try to understand that your friendly neighbourhood muslim says "YES" to all of the above. There are lots of questions that can be added to the list above, but for starters, I think that this will suffice.
at April 21, 2007 5:30 AM
Luckily the dames wear burkhas, else many cracked lenses follow.
Perhaps, the oh-so-sophisticated-and-progressive software should be modified to check for testicles beneath the burkhas.
Posted by: Mike_W at April 21, 2007 6:03 AM
Government does not have the will to just kick out the muslims, and do the easy way out and put out cameras to try and catch them doing muslim crimes, ie burning cars, defacing Churchs,etc.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 21, 2007 6:31 AM
The cost of importing Islam. Now the UK has to watch its back. They also should have informants and spies in very mosque.
Posted by: The Resistance at April 21, 2007 8:36 AM
The UK has the highest proportion of CCTV cameras in the world - yet still the crime rate is going up.
CCTV cameras - like the proposed ID cards - a a NuLabour "bandaid" designed to look like they are doing something - but do nothing to deter criminals and will do nothing to stop a terrorist attack.
Posted by: drk at April 21, 2007 8:44 AM
Since the source is WND, the story lacks credibility.
Posted by: Kim Hartveld at April 21, 2007 8:45 AM
Since the source is WND, the story lacks credibility.
Posted by: Kim Hartveld [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2007 08:45 AM
ok Kim Hartveld.. why does WND lack credibility? you a BBC fan?
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 21, 2007 8:52 AM
this lab/lib/con conglomerate power sharing franchise has greedily invested in socialism and the control of people by using their islamic stooges to create a society of fear and terror. the only reason we have these spy cameras on every street is because of multiculturalism, mass enforced immigration, using refugees as pawns in a game of chess to change and culturally extinguish the british peoples from the UK and therefore increase the power of these few marxist eurocrats. gordon brown, the next labour prime minister, was a card carrying member of the communist party.
democracy in europe is fading. you may think that you are free there but try challenging their socialist idealology and they will come down on you very hard.
we need to change the political spectrum of europe from left to right and this will end the islamist stooges rule of terror. and then we can dismantle those cameras.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at April 21, 2007 9:02 AM
If the objects of this this surveillance of Muslim areas were extended to detect benefit fraud, illegal immigration, polygamists, pimping, drug-dealing, election fraud and money-laundering it would wreak havoc with Mohammedan society in the UK.
Posted by: wallyUK at April 21, 2007 9:04 AM
How, after the horrific Muhammad-cartoon demonstrations when murderous monstrosities behaved as if they already owned Britain, the Brits can fail to see that they have an emergency astounds me. They should be electing right wing politicians who will act decisively against the Muslim threat before it’s too late. I mean the eventual takeover demographically, by Muslims, and stop kidding yourself that the future will be Okay because most are moderate. Once a certain percentage of (block-voting) Muslims occur, and the militants dominate what true moderate Muslims there are by threats & violence, the politicians will have to sell-out Britain completely to the militant imams and the Muslims know it.
Posted by: FM at April 21, 2007 10:41 AM
Would there be a Sniper Rifle attached to those Cameras?
Posted by: flowerknife_us at April 21, 2007 10:54 AM
A poster above says:
"The cost of importing Islam. Now the UK has to watch its back. They also should have informants and spies in very mosque."
you mean every?
I agree.
I have poised this question before without success. I'll try again.
What are Islamic rules about non-muslims visiting Mosques? Can anyone attend a prayer service to observe? Only Muslims? Are their instructions somewhere in the holy books?
I was raised Catholic, but do not belong to any organized religion now. I do recall all of the churchs in my old nieghborhood were always open to non-members. All were welcome. Even if for nothing more than curiousity about what goes on inside.
What if want to go to a local Mosque and hear what the local Iman is preaching about on any given Friday? What if someone has told me that the local cleric or Iman is preaching hate against Jews or non-muslims? I, as well as my community would want to know about that.
at April 21, 2007 10:59 AM
One benefit of the system is that it is impartial (other than its placement in Muslim areas, which will likely be considered "racist").
It would be difficult to prove that a camera was "racist" against Muslims. (I'm sure some will claim that the system is "racist" but I don't think it could be proven.)
However, if mostly Muslim people are charged and convicted of terrorism as a result of this system, look out for the "racism" card.
In my part of Canada, schools have had a "zero tolerance" policy against certain behaviours. For example, violence or threats of violence have been punished by suspension.
Now people are saying that the system unfairly discriminates against black students and it must be changed. Some have said, sure, suspend or expel the violent students, but don't leave them unaided, give them more programs to help them so they're not out on the streets instead of in school.
What I haven't heard is if the program is administered fairly (zero tolerance for all), how this is unfair to black students. Or is the program administered fairly with the result that more black students are suspended or expelled? (It's quite possible that it is not administered fairly but I haven't seen or heard an indepth analysis or a breakdown by demographics, meaning more expulsions in high-density, high-crime areas.)
I do not for one second believe that black kids are more prone to violence by virtue of their skin colour. (My white friend's half-Italian, half-Dutch-Jewish son was suspended for "jokingly" threatening violence against another white student.)
My point is that, when this type of system is administered by humans, it is subject to human error, prejudice (sometimes unintended) and accusations of racism or persecution. But an inanimate object (a camera) run by a computer system that reads facial expressions and body language and not skin colour and clothing, might be a step in the right direction in terms of policing.
Posted by: Josephine at April 21, 2007 11:06 AM
“How, after the horrific Muhammad-cartoon demonstrations when murderous monstrosities behaved as if they already owned Britain, the Brits can fail to see that they have an emergency astounds me.”
These people were later arrested and put on trial.
at April 21, 2007 11:07 AM
If these infil-traitors were sent back to Mecca, the Brits could then use these cameras to take pictures of flowers, pretty girls and butterflies.
And not have to waste them on this kind of expensive, ineffectual folly.
They can just plot indoors.
What good are cameras then?
Posted by: profitsbeard at April 21, 2007 11:58 AM
"But an inanimate object (a camera) run by a computer system that reads facial expressions and body language and not skin colour and clothing, might be a step in the right direction in terms of policing".
Posted by: Josephine
It seems to me that another incident similar to the dreaded cartoons which resulted in 'muslim rage' would probably overload the computer system.
Streets of London jam packed with those familiar grimaced faces calling for beheading of various infidel scum....all you'd end up with is the Microsoft blue window of death.
at April 21, 2007 12:06 PM
This ought to help immensely as now the British can real television watch terrorists and vote, "Are they going to blow up the Pic today or not".
This is about as inept as it gets watching people on camera trying to decipher if they are evil or not. You fix the problem then you don't have to waste resources on something which only shows a bombing as it happens.
Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 21, 2007 12:22 PM
"These people [Muhammad-cartoon London demonstrators] were later arrested and put on trial."
Insane complacency. Only a handful were arrested out of hundreds of virulent demonstrators who are clearly a threat in a free democracy, and that was only the tip of the iceberg:
“Nearly 25% of British Muslims said the July 7, 2005, terror bombings in London, which killed 52 innocent commuters, were justified. Another 30% said they would prefer to live under strict Islamic Sharia law rather than England's democratic system.”
(http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015081.php )
– and those were only the ones willing to tell their convictions.
Britain has a real emergency and the population doesn’t see it because it keeps telling itself that most Muslims are moderate – as if that makes a real difference.
at April 21, 2007 1:57 PM
""These people [Muhammad-cartoon London demonstrators] were later arrested and put on trial.""
Insane complacency. Only a handful were arrested out of hundreds of virulent demonstrators who are clearly a threat in a free democracy,"
Do you really think the police could have arrested ALL the demonstrators? Talk sense.
Posted by: JFGR at April 21, 2007 4:16 PM
Proof positive that Muslim immigration has enriched us to an such an extent that we have a Big Brother on the stretts of the UK.
The cost of Muslims to the UK keeps getting higher and higher. But we are only paying pennies at the moment, even though the bill is in the region of tens of billions of pounds each year. In a decade or so we will be confronted with the real bill - a gruesome religious civil war, and maybe even partition of the UNITED KINGDOM.
Posted by: DP111 at April 21, 2007 4:29 PM
No Muslims in the UK and there wouild be no need for these camera, or the huge strain on the security and police forces, or the huge strain on social services, schools and hospitals.
Posted by: DP111 at April 21, 2007 4:48 PM
Why do we continue to allow Muslims to immigrate to the West? As Hugh has mentioned so often, our lives become more unpleasant, more insecure and costlier with the increased presence of Muslims in our societies.Clearly Muslims and democracy do not mix.
Posted by: Roxane at April 21, 2007 9:41 PM
Relax everyone...our educational institutions have got this covered...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article1654995.ece
Staring?? I am...in disbelief...
Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at April 22, 2007 6:51 AM
off topic, sorry......
Muslim women will be allowed to wear a veil in court under new guidelines issued following a dispute last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/6588157.stm
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at April 24, 2007 12:06 PM
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