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Ed Hussain, a Muslim from London, found racism, sexual hypocrisy, and widespread jihadist sentiment as a teacher in Saudi Arabia. Read it all -- here are just a few salient excerpts. "How a British jihadi saw the light," from the Times, with thanks to all who sent this in:
...Many of the African women lived in an area of Jeddah known as Karantina, a slum full of poverty, prostitution and disease.A visit to Karantina, a perversion of the term “quarantine”, was one of the worst of my life. Thousands of people who had been living in Saudi Arabia for decades, but without passports, had been deemed “illegal” by the government and, quite literally, abandoned under a flyover.
A non-Saudi black student I had met at the British Council accompanied me. “Last week a woman gave birth here,” he said, pointing to a ramshackle cardboard shanty. Disturbed, I now realised that the materials I had seen those women carrying were not always for sale but for shelter.
I had never expected to see such naked poverty in Saudi Arabia.
At that moment it dawned on me that Britain, my home, had given refuge to thousands of black Africans from Somalia and Sudan: I had seen them in their droves in Whitechapel. They prayed, had their own mosques, were free and were given government housing.
Many Muslims enjoyed a better lifestyle in non-Muslim Britain than they did in Muslim Saudi Arabia. At that moment I longed to be home again.
All my talk of ummah seemed so juvenile now. It was only in the comfort of Britain that Islamists could come out with such radical utopian slogans as one government, one ever expanding country, for one Muslim nation. The racist reality of the Arab psyche would never accept black and white people as equal....
Racism was an integral part of Saudi society. My students often used the word “nigger” to describe black people. Even dark-skinned Arabs were considered inferior to their lighter-skinned cousins. I was living in the world’s most avowedly Muslim country, yet I found it anything but. I was appalled by the imposition of Wahhabism in the public realm, something I had implicitly sought as an Islamist.
Part of this local culture consisted of public institutions being segregated and women banned from driving on the grounds that it would give rise to “licentiousness”. I was repeatedly astounded at the stares Faye got from Saudi men and I from Saudi women.
Faye was not immodest in her dress. Out of respect for local custom, she wore the long black abaya and covered her hair in a black scarf. In all the years I had known my wife, never had I seen her appear so dull. Yet on two occasions she was accosted by passing Saudi youths from their cars. On another occasion a man pulled up beside our car and offered her his phone number.
In supermarkets I only had to be away from Faye for five minutes and Saudi men would hiss or whisper obscenities as they walked past. When Faye discussed her experiences with local women at the British Council they said: “Welcome to Saudi Arabia.”...
Why had the veil and segregation not prevented such behaviour? My Saudi acquaintances, many of them university graduates, argued strongly that, on the contrary, it was the veil and other social norms that were responsible for such widespread sexual frustration among Saudi youth....
D'Souza Alert:
In my Islamist days we relished stating that Aids and other sexually transmitted diseases were the result of the moral degeneracy of the West. Large numbers of Islamists in Britain hounded prostitutes in Brick Lane and flippantly quoted divorce and abortion rates in Britain. The implication was that Muslim morality was superior. Now, more than ever, I was convinced that this too was Islamist propaganda, designed to undermine the West and inject false confidence in Muslim minds....In Mecca, Medina and Jeddah I met young men with angry faces from Europe, students at various Wahhabi seminaries. They reminded me of my extremist days.
They were candid in discussing their frustrations with Saudi Arabia. The country was not sufficiently Islamic; it had strayed from the teachings of Wahhabism. They were firmly on the side of the monarchy and the clerics who supported it. Soon they were to return to the West, well versed in Arabic, fully indoctrinated by Wahhabism, to become imams in British mosques.
By the summer of 2005 Faye and I had only eight weeks left in Saudi Arabia before we would return home to London. Thursday, July 7, was the beginning of the Saudi weekend. Faye and I were due to lunch with Sultan, a Saudi banker who was financial adviser to four government ministers. I wanted to gauge what he and his wife, Faye’s student, thought about life inside the land of their birth....
My initial suspicion was that the perpetrators were Saudis. My experience of them, their virulence towards my non-Muslim friends, their hate-filled textbooks, made me think that Bin Laden’s Saudi soldiers had now targeted my home town. It never crossed my mind that the rhetoric of jihad introduced to Britain by Hizb ut-Tahrir could have anything to do with such horror....
The fact that hundreds of children die in Africa every day would be of no relevance to a committed Islamist. In the extremist mind the plight of the tiny Palestinian nation is more important than the deaths of millions of black Africans. Let them die, they’re not Muslims, would be the unspoken line of argument. As an Islamist it was only the suffering of Muslims that had moved me. Now human suffering mattered to me, regardless of religion....
Sultan spoke fondly of his time in London, particularly his placement at Coutts as a trainee banker. We then moved on to the subject uppermost in my mind, the terrorist attacks on London. My host did not really seem to care. He expressed no real sympathy or shock, despite speaking so warmly of his time in London.
“I suppose they will say Bin Laden was behind the attacks. They blamed us for 9/11,” he said.
Keen to take him up on his comment, I asked him: “Based on your education in Saudi Arabian schools, do you think there is a connection between the form of Islam children are taught here and the action of 15 Saudi men on September 11?”
Without thinking, his immediate response was, ‘No. No, because Saudis were not behind 9/11. The plane hijackers were not Saudi men. One thousand two hundred and forty-six Jews were absent from work on that day and there is the proof that they, the Jews, were behind the killings. Not Saudis.”
It was the first time I heard so precise a number of Jewish absentees. I sat there pondering on the pan-Arab denial of the truth, a refusal to accept that the Wahhabi jihadi terrorism festering in their midst had inflicted calamities on the entire world....
Two weeks after the terrorist attacks in London another Saudi student raised his hand and asked: “Teacher, how can I go to London?”
“Much depends on your reason for going to Britain. Do you want to study or just be a tourist?”
“Teacher, I want to go London next month. I want bomb, big bomb in London, again. I want make jihad!”
“What?” I exclaimed. Another student raised both hands and shouted: “Me too! Me too!”
Other students applauded those who had just articulated what many of them were thinking. I was incandescent. In protest I walked out of the classroom to a chorus of jeering and catcalls.
Posted by Robert at April 23, 2007 4:41 AM
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While the TimesOnline excerpts from this work by Ed Hussain, a Muslim who experienced the horrors of Islam first hand, the "Other"Times has a review of the novel “The Reluctant Fundamentalist” by Mohsin Hamid, that paints a picture of America as degenerate, and the Muslims as victims.
A quote from the last paragraph of this review gives an idea of the moral equivalency coupled with denial that this novel and the NYTimes continually push
"It seems that Hamid would have us understand the novel’s title [The Reluctant Fundamentalist]ironically. We are prodded to question whether every critic of America in a Muslim country should be labeled a fundamentalist, or whether the term more accurately describes the capitalists of the American upper class."
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at April 23, 2007 5:16 AM
Not a day without jihad: Australian Federal Police probes terror fundraising by Somali extremists:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/04/23/afp-probes-terror-fundraising-by-local-somali-extremists/
Prison Da'awa:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/04/22/australia-mastermind-recruiting-islamic-gang-inside-super-jail/
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 23, 2007 6:24 AM
Delicious! Welcome to the real royal world! This guy is the definition of "useful idiot." As they say in some other places, come, come to, come to believe...that Western Civilization is probably the only hope for a civilized world with freedom and rights for all.
Now, just maybe, a few more sniveling bastards of the left liberal lily livered media will begin to wake-up to the threat. The Qur'an orders that no good Muslim can be a friend of the West. Now you know that in the heart of the beast it is truly so.
Posted by: spinoneone at April 23, 2007 6:35 AM
The article is admirable, but just look at this concluding sentence...which indicates the extent to which his state of denial remains....
"My time in Saudi Arabia bolstered my conviction that an austere form of Islam (Wahhabism) married to a politicised Islam (Islamism) is wreaking havoc in the world."
This is tantamount to a dedicated communist blaming Stalinism and Maoism for corrupting an otherwise valid ideology....an English Steven Scwhartz.
Posted by: Cornelius at April 23, 2007 6:47 AM
Ed Hussain, a Muslim from London , now that this man has been enlightened will he try to reform the reformless or do the right thing and leave islam to the braindead cult followers.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 23, 2007 7:59 AM
Wahhabism is reform Islam ,A return to Islam free of western influence Mohammed's Islam. Any suggestion that It is a hijacking will have to be proven with scripture and that proof doesn't exist.
I dont trust this persons brush with humanity .
He has gone from a mad bomber to a human shield.
at April 23, 2007 8:34 AM
Wahabism is not evil, it is the pure form of Islam as taught by Allah's apostle renewed by MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL-WAHAAB, a true reformer of the lord's religion.
What gives Wahabi Islam a bad name is the HOUSE OF SAUD, practising silly policies that have left their men depraved of women, sexually frustrated....No dating in saudi and no marriage available because they turned society materialistic....DOWRY IS SO EXPENSIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA...ANYWAY so many other ills down there etc poverty and so on....
WAHABISM frowns on any association with Allah in worship
Posted by: Abdullah at April 23, 2007 9:56 AM
Now, just maybe, a few more sniveling bastards of the left liberal lily livered media will begin to wake-up to the threat. The Qur'an orders that no good Muslim can be a friend of the West.
l think even when the muslims cult bastard chop their heads off, they will be still in disbelief, look at Daniel Pearl, what a fool he was, and on a fool's errand. he did not have to go to the pak to find out what islmaist really mean what they say,he just had to read the koran,hadiths, you have all the answers of this death cult.
oh Abdullah you are a partime muslim, go and live in a muslim land your prude, go to any sunni land, and find out how beautiful islam is. otherwise your words fall on deaf ears, you are the class fool here as we all know its so brave you can speak of islam living very confortable in the West where infidels excell at making life well for all. so get the f**k out to a sunni muslim land, see if you can survive six months , l bet you will come hime within a month, crying.. blahblah..you baby
at April 23, 2007 10:07 AM
The hypocricy in Islam knows no bounds, in fact I sometimes wonder if the word even exists in Arabic,or Farsi.
Even in the actual article you will note that the 2nd commenter below the article appears to be a British Muslim, he comments that Saudia Arabia is the fault of the British because they set the Sauds up during WWI. Thus he chooses to make the British responsible for Saudia Arabia's, Religious practices, its morality,its racism,and its overall character as if to say that the British should have outlawed Waahabism, and the Islamic religion when they helped set up the Sauds. does the commenter ask why Saudia Arabia does not emulate the country he is apparently now living in--no. The amazing hypcrisy I see in Islam seems to know no bounds.
Posted by: Mackie at April 23, 2007 10:16 AM
It was a good article. However, with the first names of Ed and Faye, I assume that the writer and wife are British converts. It also sounds as if they will stay in Islam and try to 'reform' it. Perhaps they what they really needed was more quality time in the black slums of Jeddah, ie..live there with the Africans and experience their sufferings first hand, in order to make the decision to leave Islam and return to the world of sanity.
Posted by: maryrose at April 23, 2007 11:07 AM
I have read that there is no concept of hypocricsy in the Middle East.So it comes as no surprise to hear about Muslims engaging in sexual misconduct, racism and binge drinking all while criticizing the West.On FOX during a discussion of the "pious" Muslim cab drivers who refused to carry passengers with alcohol the subject of drinking in Saudia Arabia came up.One guest noted how freely alcohol is consumed in private in SA. Interesting to note that the "pious" Somali's who would discriminate against Americans would be called the N word in Saudi Arabia while probably being viewed as unfit to drive a cab there. The hypocrisy of Islam knows no bounds.
Posted by: Roxane at April 23, 2007 11:16 AM
Wahabism is evil, it is the pure form of Islam as taught by Allah's apostate MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL-WAHAAB, a true former of the devil's religion.
There, fixed that for you Abdullard.
at April 23, 2007 11:40 AM
I was first made aware of Arab-Muslim racism/sexism through, of all things, a National Geographic DVD about the Hajj. The problems were so evident that the editors of the documentary made no effort to attempt to hide the fact, though no huge effort was made to discuss it either. Probably wise considering that it was only through some specially sanctioned efforts by a few Saudi elites that a predominantly non-Muslim film crew was even allowed to video tape such events at all, and that obviously was more with the intent of spreading Islam than to worry about spreading the truth of it.
Posted by: Foehammer at April 23, 2007 11:58 AM
Zena
Ed Hussein sounds like a convert - Ed ain't a Muslim name. If he is disgusted by what he saw in KSA, he should do what you say and convert out of Islam, being careful enough to assume a new identity.
Even allowing for ignorance, I have a dim view of anybody who changes his/her own religion. If one is unsatisfied with what one's faith has to offer, why not simply be an atheist/agnostic?
Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 23, 2007 12:31 PM
npabga: that book review was jaw-dropping, thanks for posting it. The main Muslim character starts hating America because, what, rich people talk "condescendingly" to the hired help. That might have made more sense if he wasn't from a world where slavery and the physical/sexual abuse of servants wasn't common.
Posted by: JadeDragoness at April 23, 2007 12:40 PM
From the article
I want bomb, big bomb in London, again. I want make jihad!
This quote is misleading, since we do not speak Arabic. Remember, "Islam" means "peace", "jihad" means a "peaceful introspection", and "big bomb" means "a beautiful bouquet of flowers".
Posted by: special_guest at April 23, 2007 1:05 PM
Real war, civil war, retalitory war are all coming as this is this will spread worldwide in real sorting out of what civilization will be.
It will either be Islam, communism, fascism or the dark ages. That is how people in power ab ordo chao.
and Abdullah, your leftist covetousness of the Saud wealth and hating them while hiding behind "Islam" reveals your soul.
Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 23, 2007 1:21 PM
Must be some powerfully corrupting radiation coming from that meteor in the Ka'aba.
Causes males to become terrorizing, semi-conscious perverts and hypocrites and women to cower like mindless sheep before them.
I say, let's have a black ops mission replace the meteor with a facsimile and let's see if it helps.
Couldn't be the core teachings of the Koran.
Couldn't be the stark example of the pedophile warlord.
Posted by: profitsbeard at April 23, 2007 2:25 PM
"The racist reality of the Arab psyche would never accept black and white people as equal...."
That explains Sudan -_-;;
Posted by: JadeDragoness at April 23, 2007 2:29 PM
I want make beautiful jihad benefit for moslem country!
Oh those moslems.. such fine Borators they are!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at April 23, 2007 5:22 PM
Re: the comments about Saudi racism, nothing new, but sounds like a description of the real Che Guevara. Native Cuban author Humberto Fontova described how Che, in the Motorcycle diaries, described Blacks (which he then called 'Negros') as lazy and indolent, unlike Europeans, who were the best of people. It's funny how both the Communists and Muslims have the same racist views, although they are quick to accuse anybody opposed to them of the very same crime.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 23, 2007 7:06 PM
"The racist reality of the Arab psyche would never accept black and white people as equal...."
-- from the article above
Nor Arab Muslim and non-Arab Muslim as equal. The Qur'an was revealed in Arabic, to Muhammad, an Arab. The Arabs are the "best of peoples." Non-Arab Muslims should memorize the Qur'an in Arabic, whether they know the language or not. They should, ideally, shed all remnants of their non-Islamic past and take Arab names and use Arabic phrases from the canonical texts of Islam as often as possible. They should prostrate themselves in the direction of Arabia, of Mecca, five times a day. They should take a 7th century Arab as their permanent guide to behavior in all things for he, Muhammad, is uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil.
Islam is a vehicle for Arab supremacism. Yes, the Arabs are racists. But they are more than that. They are Arab supremacists -- and they convince non-Arab Muslims to also yield to, and parrot, the attitudes of Arab supremacists.
Posted by: Hugh at April 23, 2007 7:50 PM
A good myth buster. “All my talk of ummah seemed so juvenile now.” Your words, not mine, although mine would be very similar. If you only knew half of the truth of racism in the Arab world! It’s a heinous epidemic there that’s ingrained into their very fabric. When you’re in the ME, you better be of the right breed and religion, or they would see you as squat.
Yet the author’s loyalty remains fixated on this failed ideology. Obviously, he is still suffering from the symptom of self-denial. It’s amazing to see the stubbornness and the short-sightedness that holds people hostage to Islam.
“Why had the veil and segregation not prevented such behaviour? My Saudi acquaintances, many of them university graduates, argued strongly that, on the contrary, it was the veil and other social norms that were responsible for such widespread sexual frustration among Saudi youth....”
So it doesn’t work, and why should it. How many other things of the fascist ideology that don’t work? Does it really need a trip to SA, Mr. Perfect’s capital?
at April 23, 2007 8:24 PM
Fascinating article. We're all well aware of the absurdity of second generation Muslims in the west, whose parents escaped their 3rd world Muslim hellholes, imagining how terrific it would be if the west were governed by Sharia law, while they live here in the west, and being perhaps congenitally stupid, are incapable of appreciating that old maxim "careful what you wish for". The principle applies even more so to useful idiot western Muslim converts.
We're always suggesting with some futility that these folks put their money where their mouths are and go actually live in a sharia state if they imagine it's so terrific. Instead of bringing in so many students from Saudi Arabia to study here, can't the west actually sponsor the reverse? Send some of these folks off to live in Iran and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (near the border with Afghanistan ideally) and make it a mandatory feature of the plane fare that they must stay there for at least a year? Anyone found to have further radicalized overseas should find their return entry denied on some trivial beaurocratic grounds but perhaps for many the experience would be like that old approach to reforming juvenile delinquents by sticking them in prison for a bit - it was a concept called "scared straight".
First up on the sponsorship list - our resident, pampered, British wanna-be jihadi, Abdullah. Being black (and a raisin-head per his adored prophet), I recommend Saudi Arabia for his exchange program.
Posted by: Caroline at April 23, 2007 11:40 PM
"I want make jihad"
Sounds like a caveman. Takes one to talk like one. Islam wants to take us back to the stoneage.
Posted by: champ at April 26, 2007 2:18 PM
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