Instead of trying to contact him, why doesn't somebody inform Law Enforcement in PA and ask that he be arrested? Why the charade?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 24, 2007 6:13 PM

Perhaps, Mr. Watson, you should know a little more about the illustrious Imam ElBayly. Here in the community in which they live, he is referred to as "Fraud" ElBayly, since he built the "Peace Center" while being on disabily income from the State of PA. It has been so many years since he was actually at work at the State Prison, that the newer guards have not even heard of him! Didn't stop him from pulling down taxpayer dollars to do his "work."

You might want to ask him about his marital indescretions over the years also, while you are about it. He picked out a Somerset girl for marriage and entry purposes. She is now also caught in the trap of Islam.

Posted by: Somerset at April 24, 2007 6:13 PM

Why not ask for information about Islamic teaching as you are interested in learning from the Imam his interpretation of the Koran.

It is the truth and for your studies you could request to record it for lessons in comparing the English verses.

They are not bright enough to debate and know they can not allow their real thoughts be revealed to outsiders.
All this is doing is making him go gopher and preach his hate to dolts underground to show up later at places like Virginia Tech.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 24, 2007 6:17 PM

Why oh why does anyone need to discuss Islam with it`s indoctrinated zombies any longer ?
Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see it
for what it is...and Muslims do not try to hide it either !
Why would you want to share the air in the same room as them , there must be 21,000,000 better things to do !

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at April 24, 2007 6:28 PM

Seams that the Brits arressted some islamic terorist today!!

Seams that the MSM [including fox] have missed the big story in Europe seams France had an election and no word could it be that the people of France have decided to fight for short skirts??

And maybe that the mulsums are not such a big force after all?? Funny huh!!

http://www.beecy.net/frank/

Seams that the Iraqis are in with Va Tec and the press who the Va Tec said to go away??

Why does the MSM aid and abet islamic terrorist??

And why does no one point out that Lebierman beet Lamont??

And why does Joe not side with those who fight as Zell said a democrat party no more?

Of course the dimmis think they will always be safe but history shows a different story!!

God Bless you D.C.Waston keep up the fight Amen

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECIVED BY THEM AMEN

PS
How many were lost in the first 2 days on sipian during WW2??

Last time I heard it was over 2 thousand???

Posted by: Catherine at April 24, 2007 7:09 PM

Bravo, DC!

Posted by: Whistling Dixie at April 24, 2007 7:21 PM

Attack! Attack!

Do not give this man one inch. Make him an example. These folks only understand power and power in this country is using your free speech to hammer him without mercy. Everyday call, protest, anyone and everyone who can do something about this man including the man himself. Be sure to follow the laws of Pennslyvania (or your own state) and know your laws well because these folks want them replaced with their own laws.

It is time people confront these folks because the normal media has abdicated there position as watchdogs and have instead become shills. They can no longer be trusted to do what they are paid to do.

The stakes are too high. A Islamic leader has called for the death of someone on our soil. This is not the first time in America after all somebody wanted Mr. Spencer's brain removed if I recall nor in the world. This is however first blantent action from a Islamic leader within the US. Stating very clearly his wish for a death of an anti-jihadist and how it would be justified. He is wishing for the faithful to do something about her which is we all know a "hint hint". Van Gogh in Holland was called out in the same way before he was wacked. We in America must not let this man bully us.

This is like the abolitionist movement. I keep saying that because the same denial that was evident in the 1830s-1840s is in the air today. Everybody wants to go through the normal channels which don't work anymore or be polite because of kindness or fear. Enough!

This will be an issue of national survival sooner then we think. Once the door is kept open it will be open forever...

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at April 24, 2007 7:45 PM

I'd really like to hear the take on this from anyone knowledgeable in PA law: Can he really get out of some charge like incitement to violence or uttering threats (I'm sure there must be some such crimes on the books in PA) just by saying that he only urged she be killed in a different country? Do I get to do that, too? "Mr. X should definitely be killed, and if I had my way he definitely would be killed, but, er, it would happen on the Isle of Malta." Does that let me legally off the hook for inciting violence against Mr. X?

What say you, lawyers?

Posted by: Lydia at April 24, 2007 8:26 PM

Hey,
It's really easy to find the District Attorney in Jamestown, PA. I wrote him an email. I hope every on gets inspired and starts making waves against this kind of Coward.

Why is it that we have a situation where two freedoms are respected? Free spreech and Freedom of Religion. Yet, Sharia condemns this freedom becuase it allows the taking of a life within a separate system of law, seeminly above the two mentioned principles.

This is what is an abomination to our belief system. There is no compunction in a Radical Interpretation of Islamic Law to take a life due to a person speaking their mind. Yet, most in this country defend this Imam's right to free speech. This is an affront, throwing mud in your face, showing no higher sensitivity to life and consciousness. His statement does not add to the public good, does not make our society or our culture richer or stronger.

For what its worth.

Posted by: One4FreeChoice at April 24, 2007 8:35 PM

From the Pittsburgh Tribune Review

Free speech


Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Kudos to the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown for not acquiescing to the irrational protests of imam Fouad ElBayly and other Muslims in the community regarding the recent appearance and speech at the university of author Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch feminist, Somali refugee and outspoken critic of radical Islam ("Furor over author Ayaan Hirsi Ali's visit stirs debate on religious freedom," April 22 and PghTrib.com).
Having read Hirsi Ali's book, "Infidel," my previous beliefs and concerns about the Islam religion have only been validated.

This is the only major religion in the world that would kill those who choose to leave the religion. ElBayly of the Islamic Center of Johnstown states that "She (Hirsi Ali) has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death."

Interestingly, Hirsi Ali did not "choose" to come into the faith -- she was born into it! Millions in the world are born into Islam and, by ElBayly's decree, could never leave the religion without facing death.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com:8000/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/letters/send/s_504200.html

Posted by: Unbridled at April 24, 2007 10:32 PM

Let me try this again, mates.

Free speech

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Kudos to the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown for not acquiescing to the irrational protests of imam Fouad ElBayly and other Muslims in the community regarding the recent appearance and speech at the university of author Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch feminist, Somali refugee and outspoken critic of radical Islam ("Furor over author Ayaan Hirsi Ali's visit stirs debate on religious freedom," April 22 and PghTrib.com).
Having read Hirsi Ali's book, "Infidel," my previous beliefs and concerns about the Islam religion have only been validated.

This is the only major religion in the world that would kill those who choose to leave the religion. ElBayly of the Islamic Center of Johnstown states that "She (Hirsi Ali) has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death."

Interestingly, Hirsi Ali did not "choose" to come into the faith -- she was born into it! Millions in the world are born into Islam and, by ElBayly's decree, could never leave the religion without facing death.

I would encourage every reader to read "Infidel" -- it gives a realistic and chilling description of this supposed "religion of peace."

David Cross
Baden

Posted by: Unbridled at April 24, 2007 10:34 PM

Hey Unbridled, you tipping back a few Fosters lagers tonight or something?

Posted by: Prickzilla at April 24, 2007 10:38 PM

Good work DC...dont give these infuriates any wiggle room at all. A figure four leglock will temporarily, shut his mouth, but to alter his thinking, a good elbow drop from the top rope, may accomplish the task...or, just prop him up in the corner, and give him the speech on how to be a man...
He really needs that because Allah never told him what manhood really means...

I like the Laura Ingraham show. I too was waiting for Elbayly to appear...I can understand why he did not want to go on the show...he might have to tell the truth, that the ROP, demands the death of any who question or disagree. Apostates must die...unless they have some money, then they can negotiate...

Posted by: duh_swami at April 24, 2007 11:44 PM

You have to excuse me, when moments are serious, I still tend to laugh! Which I did, this phone conversation! The deception and lies they do and say! How do these people get in America? Just is baffling? The experiences I have had, short and sweet! I have gotten gas at the same place for years. Now muslims. Figured ah, don't be prejudice. They are hard to have them to look at you in the eye or smile. I find suspicious! As I leave all these very poor mexicans pour in from behind.

Posted by: MZ at April 25, 2007 12:22 AM

Thanks to the post yesterday regarding this subject which supplied Pennsylvania Senators phone #s. I happened to call both Senators offices today. I live in Pittsburgh, about 2 hours drive from Johnstown and expressed my concern about the imams comment and the article in the paper and asked if the Senator was aware of Mr ElBayly's opinions. Senator Spector's office was very attentive to my concerns and promised to look into the matter and asked for info about the date of the article in the paper. I'm not suprised to report though that our new Democratic Senator, Mr Casey's office, didnt really seem to care much about my concerns. They silently listened, then told me I could post a message on they're message board which they would review later and get back to me, but that they were backed up a few weeks. I posted the message with the link to the story but I am not very optimistic about hearing back from them. I also spoke to the reporter who wrote the article, her phone # was posted at the end. She was also very attentive and said that the imam had told her those were not his words but the words of islam. He does agree with islam but once again he was just stating islams position of those who leave the faith. Sounds to me like a case of if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it might just be a duck. She also told me he had lived in the USA for many years and didnt think he was capable of any violence like that. I guess just inciting murder is OK though.

Posted by: Poor Knight of Christ at April 25, 2007 12:26 AM

Poor Knight of Christ:
Thanks for calling. Great that Senator Specter's office listened like that. And even though Senator Casey's office seemed unresponsive, don't let that fool you. Enough calls will compel them to reassess, and your calls were a start on that road. Great!

Posted by: traeh at April 25, 2007 12:42 AM

To Pennsylvanians:

If just one of you calls a senator or representative, that call is calculated by politicians to represent the opinion of another 1000 people who didn't have time to call.

Therefore, below in this comment are phone numbers and websites to call your senators and reps and tell them that the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review of April 22 reported that Imam Fouad ElBayly, president of the Johnstown, Pennsylvania Islamic Center,
identified Ayaan Hirsi Ali "as one who has defamed the faith" of Islam..."and when you decide to defame [Islam] deliberately, the sentence is death," said Imam Fouad Bayley.
Politely tell your senators and reps that you want Imam Fouad ElBayly prosecuted and put in jail for as long as possible and fined as heavily as possible for making that death threat, and that you will watch what politicians do about the Imam and his death threat, and you will vote for the politician who takes the strongest punitive legal action againt the imam.

Here are the phone numbers of the Pennsylvania senators:

Senator Arlen Specter (R)
Ph (202) 224-4254 / Fx (202) 228-1229

Senator Robert P. Casey (D)
Ph 202-224-6324 / Fx 202-228-0604

Here's a web page with all the phone numbers of Pennsylvania representatives:
Penn Reps' Phone numbers

If you aren't sure who your representatives are or their numbers, go here:
Who is My Penn Rep?

Don't let this murder-inciting killer-imam get away with it.

(Here's the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review April 22 article web page: http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/rss/print_503977.html )

Posted by: traeh at April 25, 2007 12:57 AM

Abe Lincoln,

Yeah you're right. Ahmadinutjob is unreasonable and so is Bush. Bush may not be Hitler incarnate like so many moonbats will say, but he's so bloody naive (not to mention stubborn as a mule) it's not funny.

Poor Knight,

Looks like that reporter was fooled by ElBayly. I bet she let her guard down because this ElBayly fellow sounded like the sweet voice of reason when he said Ayaan Hirsi Ali must die. If only she knew that the Qu'ran pretty much gives Muslims the permission to enforce God's (or Allah's) law on earth. Mohammed Bouyeri did when he killed Theo Van Gogh (and he wanted to kill Hirsi Ali too). Every terrorist who blows himself up does the same. If only that reporter were not so ignorant. I hope you used that phone call to enlighten her.

Posted by: wrathofasma at April 25, 2007 1:09 AM

Another message to Pennsylvanians:

Phone number of the office of
Pennsylvania Attorney General, Tom Corbett: 717-787-3391

Tell the office that the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review of April 22 reported that Imam Fouad ElBayly, president of the Johnstown, Pennsylvania Islamic Center, said the author Ayaan Hirsi Ali, should be killed for having defamed Islam...

Politely tell your senators and reps that you want Imam Fouad ElBayly prosecuted for inciting to murder.

Even if the attorney general will not do exactly what you ask, an intelligent phone call to his office will have significant ripple effects. Go for it.

Posted by: traeh at April 25, 2007 2:03 AM

Typical muslim reaction when they see resistance:
They shove their heads up their asses
Coward chicken muslims

Posted by: AllahIsDead at April 25, 2007 2:57 AM

it is encouraging to see this issue being pursued to senator-level. i also like the phone dialogue, i think there might be a movie script in there, 'Soul Fouad' maybe, made up of odd minimalist conversations....

Posted by: M Al-Content at April 25, 2007 7:28 AM

DC stated:

"Mr. ElBayly, you have become another in a growing list of Islamic Imams in the United States who have made militant and fanatical public statements..."

Allow me to offer some sincere, constructive criticism:

Fouad ElBayly stated that Ms. Ali, as an apostate, should be killed. We know where that comes from:

'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.' Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57

That statement, whether most Muslims have ever read it themselves or not, is part and parcel of Islam. Despite that, the American public has been told that the ElBayly's of the world are fanatics and extremists who are perverting a 'peaceful' religion.

Doesn't the assertion that ElBalyly has made 'fanatical public statements' perpetuate that?

Posted by: PRCS at April 25, 2007 7:32 AM

Life is a religion. These fanatics kill their own. They have no barriers none. We cannot go on "their land" but they can spread throughout the world and tell us how to live. How to think belief behave, and it all surrounds them! When they kill life they kill all mankind!

Posted by: MZ at April 25, 2007 10:35 AM

MZ...'thier lands' reminds me of the song line...'this land is your land this land is my land', nope thats wrong...this land (the Earth) belongs to Allah cause he created it for the exclusive use of muslims. No non muslims need apply. It all belongs to them...Allah has decreed it.

'Life', as we know, has a negative image in Islam, they all prefer death, at least in theory. If they really prefer death, the US has lots of freeways to play on. These people are so upside down, inverted, convoluted and stupid,( sometimes called 'anal retention')it's amazing they can negotiate for food shelter and clothing. Even thier god Allah cant do anything on his own, he needs help with everything. Allah is fickled, due to predestination, Allah has caused the death of many muslims...why they worship the god of thier own destruction is the sixty four dollar question.
Stuck on stupid and an over-riding case of Allahphrenia is the only sensible answer.

There are 72 bibical verses that use the word,'living'...including the idea that God is the 'living' God. Allah cant be the 'living God' because he is an advocate of death. His submitters only confirm that by emulating Allahs death ideology. 'Allahu Akbar' is the cry of the dead man. To sum it up, muslims who worship the god of death are already dead, they just don't have enough sense to lay down...

Posted by: duh_swami at April 25, 2007 11:47 AM

Bravo DC, it's important that Muslims be put on notice that they are being watched and that they could be confronted when they engage in activities that violate our laws.I'm also not surprised that ElBaly (who called for a woman's death) was too cowardly to speak to you on the phone.

Posted by: Roxane at April 25, 2007 1:28 PM

I see where the second comment is from a person from Somerset. I too am originally from there and have been following this dude ever since he spoke to the general population of Somerset on October 16, 2001, and then to students at the high school on October 20, 2001. He is the epitome of lies and misinformation. These are not the only times hes has spoken so ourageously. He was intervied by a Somerset Daily American writer in 2005 at the occasion of the open house at the Islamic center. She wrote a good article, but it was so obvious that he was giving her a "snow Job." I am just glad to see that he jumped out of the small pond and into the big pond where he is now out of his league of acceptable Islamic drivel.

woodrock

Posted by: abroder at April 25, 2007 2:24 PM

!Kill!..Kill!..Kill..Kill!..Kill!..Kill..Kill!
The
Infidel..
I didn't say it ..Allah did...
ElBayly you one sic dude!

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at April 25, 2007 5:52 PM

Gee wizz!
Where is CAIR..Calling all CAIR ...Calling all CAIR ...Where are you?

Oh! silly me!
I forgot..CAIR is ever so bizzy...lots to do ..lots to do...
Got to watch over attorneys, Kevin J. Plunkett and Darius P. Chafizadeh of Thacher, Proffitt and Wood in White Plains.. WOW! There is a investigation into whether a jail chaplain distributed anti-Islamic tracts.

ANTI-ISLAMIC TRACKS! DID YOU HERE ME!
OH NO NOT ANOTHER ONE! I sure hope she didn't do it! Did she defamed Islam, and the prophet!

"She (Rev. Teresa Darden Clapp) said all the allegations are not true and she never did any such things," Nagubandi said yesterday.

When you decide to defame [Islam] deliberately, it's the sentence is death,".Allah said so!
ask ElBayly , he'll tell you it's true.

The Muslims leaders complained that Clapp was disrespectful to them and that she frustrated their efforts to minister to Muslim prisoners.

But cheer up Rev. Teresa Darden Clapp you won't get put death because...
being you are in a free country,the good old USA, you have freedom of speech,and religion, so not to worry..

You will just lose your job and spend any money you have on lawyers.

ALLAH KNOW BEST!

http://www.nyjournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070424/NEWS03/704240389

Mohammed Ziaullah, an Islamic Center of Rockland official who attended the April 17 meeting, said the discussion went well.
They were assured of a thorough investigation, Ziaullah said.
"We are satisfied that at least they're moving in the right direction," Ziaullah said. "We have no doubt in Chief Kralik, that he will do justice, and he is a professional person, and we believe that he's going to do what needs to be done."

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at April 25, 2007 8:18 PM