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April 28, 2007

“We’re thinking suicide bombs, kidnappings and attacks on government hotels. Stuff like that"

Somali Jihad and Stuff Update. "Somali Capital Now Calm After Month in Which 1,000 Were Killed," by Jeffrey Gettleman in the New York Times, with thanks to Arjun:

NAIROBI, Kenya, April 27 — An eerie calm slipped over Mogadishu, Somalia’s capital, on Friday for the first time in a month.

After intense combat that killed more than 1,000 people, insurgents melted back into the broken city, and hundreds of families began to return home.

The transitional Somali government claimed victory, saying that its troops had vanquished the insurgency and that peace and prosperity were just around the corner. “The fighting in Mogadishu is over,” said Abdikarim Farah, Somalia’s ambassador to Ethiopia, at a news conference in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa.

“Mogadishu was once called the Pearl of the Indian Ocean,” he said. “God willing, it will come to deserve that name again.”

[...]

But the insurgency is probably not over.

Instead, it seems, the insurgents have simply absorbed the same lesson that the Islamist militias learned in December when the conflict started: that undisciplined bands of young fighters are no match for better trained, better equipped Ethiopian soldiers.

“Their snipers were killing us left and right,” said Mohammed Isse, 45, a gunman who left an Islamist militia to join an insurgent group.

Mr. Isse estimated that Ethiopian soldiers had killed more than 800 insurgents. Still, he was unbowed. “We’re just going to switch tactics,” he said. “We’re thinking suicide bombs, kidnappings and attacks on government hotels.”

“Stuff like that,” he added.

Posted by Robert at April 28, 2007 6:38 AM
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An insurgency can continue for a long time as long as it has a source of supply, finance, and motivation

What might be needed is to target the clerics who are stirring up the insurgents, as well as discovering any outside sources of supply and finance

Posted by: PapaBear [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 8:22 AM

The NY Times reported seperates the Islamic tyrants as represented by the Islamic Courts from what he terms "insurgents". What's the difference? A tyrant is a tyrant is a tyrant.

A few well placed American bombs would be useful in ending this insurgency. It would give back some of the the misguided expense that we are paying in Iraq to wipe out this world wide Islamic plague.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 9:01 AM

So we can safely expect that Sudan, in the near future is going to look like iraq, with islamics blowing themselves up and kidnapping and beheading infidels. The man himself says that they have given up since they could not fight a professinal army. To use his own words -

“We’re just going to switch tactics,” he said. “We’re thinking suicide bombs, kidnappings and attacks on government hotels.”

jihad. "Stuff like that" !

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 11:18 AM

I'm no military man, but it seems to me the lesson to be learned here is that when you have the advantage in the field, hit the enemy as hard as as fast as you can until they are crushed. Don't give them a minute's time to re-group or change tactics. I know this is probably conventional military doctrine going back centuries, but we seem to have forgotten it. Tora Bora, anyone?

Posted by: sheik yer booty [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 11:31 AM

If you don't threaten - or hurt- or destroy- the funders (the Saudis, Iran, Syria, Pakistan) this lunacy goes on forever.

Proxies can always be found in the Ummah who hate their miserable lives and are thrilled with the promise of paradise if they murder others.

Until the pumping heart is hit, this slow bleed of the naive infidels and their "murtad" Muslim "allies" is unending.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 11:58 AM

Anyone know the origin of the word "stuff"?
I use it, but it is a comical word, isn't it?

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 12:50 PM

“We’re just going to switch tactics,” he said. “We’re thinking suicide bombs, kidnappings and attacks on government hotels.”

“Stuff like that,” he added.

He sounds like he speaking of a shopping list or something equally mundane instead of maybe thousands of deaths.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 12:56 PM

'Mohammed Isse, 45, a gunman who left an Islamist militia to join an insurgent group.'-

How in the f*#k can you leave an 'Islamist militia' to join an 'insurgent group?'

Do they have only imbeciles writing for the MSM?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 12:57 PM

“Stuff like that,” he added.

i too was struck by the use of this phrase. are these Mohammed Isse's own words, or those of the translator ?
he sounds suspiciously like one of 'our' Somalis. where was he working before he took up his current position ? and what is that, really ? see

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/26/america/somalia.php

where a Mr Hassan Mohammed Isse, described as a banana seller in Mogadishu, says of the insurgents
"These guys will just go underground,again".
Mohammed and Isse are common names there, but surely they do not all speak like us ?

Posted by: M Al-Content [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 3:30 PM

and in the end, islam will disappear.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 4:57 PM

I love the way they discuss it nonchalantly, as if going to the grocery store, shopping at the mall, etc.

Classic psychopathy.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 7:43 PM

Anyone know the origin of the word "stuff"?
I use it, but it is a comical word, isn't it?
-from an above post

From etymology.com:

stuff (n.) c.1330, "quilted material worn under chain mail," from O.Fr. estoffe "quilted material, furniture, provisions" (Fr. étoffe), from estoffer "to equip or stock," probably from O.H.G. stopfon "to plug, stuff," or from a related Frankish word (see stop). Sense extended to material for working with in various trades (1406), then (1580) "matter of an unspecified kind." Meaning "narcotic, dope, drug" is attested from 1929. To know (one's) stuff "have a grasp on a subject" is recorded from 1927. stuffy "poorly ventilated" is from 1831; sense of "pompous, smug" is from 1895.

Posted by: Professor PyroSkank [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 28, 2007 8:32 PM

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